When New York looked like Ancient Rome
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This video explores how Roman architecture and city planning shaped Manhattan.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:34 Streets of Manhattan
1:36 the Croton aqueduct
2:05 City Beautiful Neoclassicism
3:29 Mckim, Mead, and White
4:25 Classical infrastructure
5:11 Monuments
5:40 The anxiety of influence
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I just stumbled upon your channel , what is your opinion on " Great Tartaria ???" Have you ever actually looked in to " Tartary???"
The US literally had an open canvas to make our country beautiful with elegant architecture and instead we defaulted to shit.
All stolen. Yes, that's correct. These were here.
@@craigr6842ignorant comment every civilization in human history has used ideas and concepts from other civilizations to build architecture.
Yeah cause the J’s seized control via the Federal Reserve the same time we started making money, hijacking’s our ability to be something more than we are today.
@@craigr6842the phone you types this brainrot from is also stolen
Go back to Korea for that comment
The demolition of the original Penn Station is insanity.
They hate our culture.
Must have been high tech. The destroyers from the 1800's don't want us asking questions.
@@peanut422hbDoes this has to do with Tartaria or the Mud Flood?
@@thedarkenigma3834 I don't know exactly, but something is very wrong. When limestone and marble are destroyed 50 years after building according to their script . Go back and look at this behemoth of a building. .
@peanut422hb These buildings were already here. New York is an ancient city
I can't believe a building such as Penn Station was torn down.
Yeah that generation was crazy
I agree. My Dad thought it was even more beautiful than Grand Central Station
They did the same to Euston Station in London. Then, built that vile concrete box. All that's left is an entrance arch.
REBUILD PENN
Those people were poisoned by lead in the atmosphere from burning leaded gas and newsprint.
My dad took me to NYC in 1964 at age 6. While there, he took to a huge hole in the ground ringed in plywood and said, "Son, you are looking at one of the greatest crimes of the 20th century."
I’m so intrigued. What exactly was this “hole”
@@jotrem4877 Penn station 😢
He took to it? Like he liked it?
He took me. i guess@@Ravum
I don't understand this. Can you explain?
When New York was truly at its peak. Maybe not in size but in splendor, relevance, and innovation.
Absolutely! Truly awesome!🗽
In my opinion NYC was at its peak from the 1960s to the 2000s
All of these buildings were here before from a previous civilization they're in every city even little towns think about it they all have buildings that we can't build today and spent every war destroying evidence
During that 1960s to 1980s period so much went under the wrecking ball. Crime and decay rampant, depopulation, bankruptcy. It was rock bottom. It recovered some before 9/11, but it was never the same. Sort of like how Constantinople recovered after the Justinianic plague, but never with quite the same energy. At least that's kind of how I see it. @@robroy6374
@@robroy6374 Never been to the US but when I think about a US state in their peak from 1960's and onward, I think mainly of California. When I think of NewYork, I always picture the city imagery from 1980's or 2010's imagery.
I really love Roman/Greek architecture, wish we could see more buildings built in this style today.
yea we god damn know
you want america to be europe
Won’t happen, it’s too expensive
They're pretty but unoriginal at this point. Most architecture in the 21st century is mass produced, including classically styled buildings.
@@ecurewitz Not really they are not much more expensive than a modern building, unless you want everything to be marble, on average I read that it is between 3% more expensive.
@@robertozeladarodriguez5321 perhaps, but the builders still don’t want to spend any extra money if possible
The brutalist designs that became more popular around 30-80 were pretty bad, but the Art Deco was not a downgrade, the Chrysler Building is still one of the most beautiful edifices in the entire world. Just saying.
Brutalism emerged in the 50s
The Chrysler Building was already there, we found it and started building around it. Same with the ESB. Built by the people who invented Steak Tartare.
If anyone wants to get an idea of how it's like to walk in the waiting area of the old Penn Station, visit Ottawa in Canada. The Senate of Canada building was the former central train station, and the main waiting room was also inspired by the Baths of Caracalla. It looks almost exactly the same as the old Penn Station's, but in 3/4 scale.
Interesting! I did go to Ottawa years ago. Are you referring to the interior of Parliament, the Senate section?
Pfffft nobody wants to see inferior 3/4 ottawian architecture
Copying the architecture of Rome is cool, but we didnt have to copy their collapse too
they lasted 100 years. usa aint nothing
@graciemaemarie11jones16 youre double wrong lil bro
usa torn down all the Hebrew buildings wake up they didn't make minority of them if they did there would be more but they cant copy god
plus look at ww 2 or 1 all to rewrite history just look at the photos
@@graciemaemarie11jones16 Do you struggle with math?
Misread the title as “What New York Looked Like In Ancient Rome” and thought I needed a little more sleep
Love it lol ❤
This is why I love Washington DC so much, its like being in a neoclassical dreamland, its stunning.
The Lincoln Memorial is my favorite structure in the US.
@@777jonesmine is the Jefferson Memorial
I’m still mad about the demolition of Penn Station.
The US had many beautiful building, these were all taken down and replaced with "modern" architecture. Early architecture in the states was amazing and an inspiration to the ppl making America.
Nice job. Classical architecture abounds in New York. You just scratched the surface.
'The Hidden Roman Design of New York City - CZcams'
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The Manhattan Municipal Building is absolutely stunning in person. Me and a friend admittedly got very stoned in Thomas Pain Park/Foley Square in May 2022, and turned the corner to face the MMB with the setting sun gazing down on it indirectly from the west and it was the most grand looking building I've ever seen in my life at the moment. The bottom Roman-esque pillars with its Golden statue peak reflecting the sun were magnificent. Despite its faults NYC is an amazing megapolis worth exploring indepth.
"...and finally, in 2024 New York, the transition from the City Beautiful movement to the City Cesspool movement has been completed."
You can still visit the Croton Aqueduct. Parts of it have been preserved as historic sites and greenways for walking and biking. It's a pretty nice day trip, if you live close by.
I recently visited New York for a school trip and was amazed by the neoclassical architecture mostly around Times Square and the fashion district but it was pretty pretty much everywhere i went in manhattan
12 March 2024 AD :
After two fullll years or more , I remain a stout Told in Stone fan , looking forward to them every Friday .
Very thsnk you Dr .Garrett Ryan .
Your videos are always 10/10--not terribly long, extremely interesting, well-edited, and of course educational.
Thank you so very much for this short and excellent video of neo-classical architecture in Manhattan.
As a New Yorker I mourn the loss of so many of the exquisite structures depicted.
It remained a beautiful city through the 1950's.
Thanks for sharing the podcast interview and your new book. Hope to look into it soon.
what a great video, will watch it several times, I will need to research McKim, Mead, and White further, Thanks!
My father used to work at the (now defunct) Grand Prospect Hall, a beautiful 1903 Victorian style banquet hall in Brooklyn.
Between my fascination with that building, and reading the Great Gatsby in HS, I found great admiration for early 20th century NYC and used it as a reference in art classes, so it's the version of the city I'm used to seeing.
But whenever I see what they've done to the skyline in person, I feel disgusted. In the never ending tale of NYCs destruction, that aforementioned Grand Prospect Hall was torn down in 2022 to make way for an apartment block.
Just googled it. Damn shame.
Your videos are always sooo good. Thanks.
This was a fascinating & informative video. Thank you.
Outstanding as always.
Thank you for mentioning Philadelphia, it's tiring when William Penn's contribution to American city layouts gets ignored. Just look how Boston turned out
I really apreciate your work. Thank you!
Most people don't see what's around them. I'm probably the same but I look at the architecture of small towns and big cities. It talks but only if you listen. Thanks for this vid.
And the fun part is you only need to look, sometimes even the most mundane buildings can have amazing details. Just the other day I went inside a boring industrial building from the 50s but once inside the whole entrance lobby was covered from ceiling to floor in a beautiful green swedish marble.
I agree. You never know. Great features turn up everywhere you look.@@xXcangjieXx
And women wonder why we think about the Roman empire so much. It totally surrounds us.
Idk about you but I think about the Ming Dynasty little bro
who’s we? you French or sumn? 💀 I don’t think about a particular European empire
@@ackvevo The Ming was inferior the the Qin and Han. It was a relatively weak dynasty because the aristocracy was eliminated centuries prior.
@@timothymatthews6458 based
The Ming weren’t afraid of exploring the world either
@@ackvevo Um, when I said it was weak, I was not implying that it was a good thing. It is bad when a state is weak.
I love that your videos do not have unnecessary background info or introduction.
great video, i love this channel
Off topic, but thank you for putting your ads at the end. CZcams is so full of ads, and it is maddening to hear an add break after the first thirty seconds of a video.
Love these videos. You should do one for Philly, we have a ton of great neoclassical buildings.
I wish youd do longer vids and more podcasts! Ive listened to them all 2 plus times! Channel is great.
Really cool channel man!! Love this lol!
Some of the old destruction was bad planning or negligence, but much of it was an intentional attack on our society. These were meant to remove beautiful things and heritage from our daily lives so we the workers would become indifferent to our surrounding. Be ok with moving often and prevent us from establishing community and pride.
Always great these vids 😊❤ thanks. Now hurry up with the next !! 😂😂
super video, thank you
My favorite piece of neoclassical architecture in NYC is the Con Ed building near union square. It is so grand on the skyline and feels larger than life! Great video as always
Chicago too - in some ways more so!
Way more
the entire u.s.a and the rest of the world actually
Far more, more than you'd believe.
I took an architecture class that really focused on Chicago. Its rise was a bit later and better organized than Manhattan’s.
“the anxiety of influence” - another Bloom fan? love that book
Don’t fail to mention the significant of ley lines ! The free masons would want them remembered
New Yorker here. Not sure how new Tom's is but love the Seinfeld reference!
Also I be was hiking the Old Croton Aqueduct trail just this weekend!
Amazing feat for it's time
Never been inside the city but drove past it couple times. Seeing it as I drove past was good enough for me
I'm so Fascinated of the past architectures.
My favorite reminder of classical grace in public architecture is Bethesda Fountain in Central Park. Small in scale but vast in evocation, it never fails to send my thoughts winging to the ancient shores of a more eloquent, noble idea of civilization.
Many old structures in L.A. still stand, although our current civilization isnt wise or wealthy enough to care for them.
I long for the prewar New York cityscape, so beautiful.
I guess that’s why they call it “The Big Ap-Palaiologos”
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I suppose this finally explains the state nickname "The Empire State."
I really enjoyed this. Thanks!!
U cool for sponsoring in the end
Fascinating.
Wake up honey, new toldinstone video
And she immediately throws the pillow in your face “why do you always think about the Roman Empire?”😂
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Im up . .... Im up .. jeeZ
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As the city decivilizes into complete collapse, unfortunately neoclassical architecture won’t leave ruins as picturesque as the original.
Rome and NYC are my two favorite cities I visited. Coincidentally, while not having visited that many cities around the world, I think they are the two greatest urbanistic achievements of mankind.
Stunning
A lot of beautiful buildings in Boston/Cambridge, by McKim, Mead and White, too. I'm not sure who was responsible, but one of the oldest buildings, at MIT, sure qualifies as "Romanesque"!
I wish the city beautiful movement had lasted, or better was still with us :(
Can you * please * do an extended length on this or something of similar nature ❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊
New York still looks like Rome but of course it looks like Rome one century after the fall.
cause it is Hebrew people where in slaved why do u think they say rome was built in one day
@jordanreeves6008 they say it wasn't built in a day that's the quote tf you mean Hebrew slaves? .
I watch your videos every night before bed. I look forward to it every night.
Nice bro
There’s a lot of places where you can still catch the vibe to be honest especially around lower midtown and Wall Street. There’s even some Babylonian looking buildings with wild stone work.
Andrea Palladio 🇮🇹 "Father of American Architecture"
We need a city beautiful movement back, big time.
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5:47 Small correction...the marble structure was dedicated in 1895, but it was finished 1892, after a year of fundraising and planning by public committee. Original concept Arch work started in 1886, and finished in 1889 was made of wood-frame and Plaster. Fun facts: The area in the 1790s was originally a burial ground, with public executions, which the area 30-40 years later was covered over and became a housing development for the rich.
RIP old Penn Station
Novum Eboracum
Interesting latin translation
I really love Roman and Greek Architecture. I wish there were more splendid architecture like that today
Positively thrilled you've referenced, often, City Beautiful! Are you on gram?
Is there any signs of Roman influence in Milwaukee?
if you haven’t seen it already, the old northwestern mutual insurance building is a really cool and great building with an obvious neoclassical influence, but it looks like most of milwaukee’s influence is german
The past had so much more class and respect to form
Penn Station based on the Baths of Caracalla. Oh, *that* paragon of virtue!
Old school is the best school. True for almost everything.
New world is the Old world of ancient times
I don't think "modern" when I think New York, I think of decay and rot.
Absolutely fantastic video. I love the voiceover and over-all style.
As always, an interesting video with cool facts that enrich what I knew. Can't wait to visit New York again and look for the hidden Roman architecture!
What a time it was
Penn Station still exists, but it's entirely underground now. What stands above it is Madison Square Garden.
Madison Square Garden was also built by that same great firm that designed the old Penn Station. But that was demolished too in place of the cheap brown concrete mess called MSG.
yeah but the building above ground needs to be brought back
The glory days
Neoclassical is very elegant. Wish we get more newer buildings built in the style.
You dont not forgotten the villa pamphili in Pompei like to San Francisco other Manhattan!❤
'We wuz Caesars n shieeeeeeeet!'
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We wuz kangz
We sold other kangz to whites
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Every Germanik ever
Look at Notsee parliament logo,
Holy "Roman" "Empire"
US "Senate"
WE WUZ ROMANS ET FECES
JULIUS SEEZUH WUZ BLACK
Racist?
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lmao
Francis Ford Coppola now has an upcoming film titled "MEGALOPOLIS", an epic Roman fable set in a fantastical New York City. :)
Nice.
Interesting that the beautiful buildings that so many contrast with the glass towers of today and the brutalist nonsense of 50 years ago were the result of a short-lived concerted effort.
Torn down to hide the past.
Tartaria the way you think of it never happened bud
@@dbyspae122
Tartaria was the name given to the Eurasian Steppes by Medieval historians
It was inhabited by Tatars and it was a hellish wasteland
In Greek "Tartarus" was the name for hell...Medieval historians were fluent in Greek and Latin
Not hard to see why they called that land Tartaria
Obviously.
@@dbyspae122 They say many of these buildings took a year to build. It doesn't need to be tartaria to be suspecious.
@@Svenburchard The Empire State Building took less than 18 months. There's MOUNTAINS of evidence documenting how it was done. Hard work and loads of planning can do all sorts of incredible things. Nothing "suspecious" [suspicious] about it if you understand anything about project planning.
A lot of smaller American cities still have skylines like this, but on a smaller scale. It's pretty neat to see a skyline untouched from the depression era.
Now we have giant twig skyscrapers that are eyesores in the city skyline.
New York almost became Novum Eboracum
I wish we kept this style. I hate brutalism with the passion of a thousand sons