Modi, Biden, America & India's Democracy Debate I Salvatore Babones speaks to Barkha Dutt
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2023
- Barkha Dutt speaks to Dr Salvatore Babones, associate professor of sociology at the University of Sydney, on PM Modi's US Visit. Babones who has often passionately defended India's democracy amid a global debate around whether it has diminished, said that "Biden did not actually endorse India's democracy when asked a question.. the Biden government is "not as Pro India as we may think".
Responding to questions about how the Modi government should respond to Western Media opeds and questions from US Lawmakers, 70 of whom urged Biden to raise the issue of democracy with Modi, Babones said "Modi government should not be defensive, it should go on the offensive; it should engage with the criticism, it has done poorly on engaging with its international image in this regard"
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As always, one's respect for Prof Babones increases for his integrity and impartiality.
I just loved the expression on Bdutt's face, priceless.
How does a community of 200 million people become a discriminated minority.. a community that freely expresses itself on the streets of India with chants of ‘ sar tan se Judah’ 😱
I am sure the same questions were asked in 1947.
Also expresses Azan mogrglouggdegr than necgessargy,fivgge regimes a day
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Barkha, why isn't there any hindu MLA, MP from Owasis party? Don't recall you ever questioning the other side of the fundamental issues.. Most Muslims in India would have never visited any ancient Buddhist, hindu monuments, but most hindus don't shy away from visiting numerous mughal etc buildings to learn about the history... Please accept that there is this hardcore islamist values which prevent millions from joining the mainstream of the Indian society.. Those who rise above manage to do well for themselves.. Thats a fact which can be validated..
Exactly. I was thinking the same. They don't have the balls to ask the same questions to Owaisi coz they need to peddle a biased narrative.
There are just find out! 😅
Yaar, we aren’t allowed to enter temples. It’s not fair to blame for not going.
Islamists are absolute nutters. As are fundamentalists of any religion. But why should Barkha ask Owaisi why there’s no Hindu representation in his party in a overwhelmingly Hindu majority society? Question would make absolutely no sense because representation is a issue specific to minorities of all types in every democratic society. It would be like asking a black-only party during the American civil rights movement why there’s no white representation. That’s because minorities (not just religious minorities) are the ones fighting for rights and representation. It would be equally stupid to ask a Hindu/Christian/queer community in the middle east or Pakistan why there’s a lack of Muslim representation. Because in those places the entire country is Muslim, stupid. Why do bhakts not understand nuance?
@@yumchaforall so, your religion can't even tolerate kafirs.
One is amazed at the capacity of Barkha Dutt of taking slaps straight faced and wanting for more.
Bit of a slapper ?
Dont worry about her. Every time she looks at her bank balance she knows the slap was worth every petri dollar she earns for discrediting Bharath.
I Really hope that the Indian media are getting an education here. Thanks, Dr. Babones!
Dr Babones ate Barkha alive!! Watch her face when he defends India. Total respect for Prof
Salvatore has done more for india image than indian Govt in answering critics!
Agreed.
I fully agree.
Not at all a fan of Barkha. Came here to watch Salvatore. 👍
Me to!
same!
Came here to watch Salvatore broil Barkha… I wasn’t disappointed! 😂
20:45 About FCRA license being cancelled she never mentioned how many NGOs failed to file ITR for many years. Majority of the NGOs money was being spend on buying business class tickets , five star hotel stays,etc. But she doesn't one to talk about it.
Lack of accountability is the curse of all money be it charities or NGOs and especially the UN.. money is always spent by staff on lavish lifestyles be it flying business or five star hotels. This Claude's religious institutions too. It is the same Capitalist business model which dominates every sphere
Guess it's easy to ignore the stark partisanship displayed by modi govt when it comes to funding: FCRA strict for NGOs but political funding totally exempt from any scrutiny?
@@head_scratch I am with you on that. Election bonds are the worst thing
Would be interesting to see in public domain the details of ITR, fundings, oher legal compliances by world's largest 'cultural' NG Organization RSS.
Government of India should hire Salvatore as a consultant or ORF should hire him. He will take these motivated NGOs and vested interest groups to the cleaners with hard factual data and burst their rhetoric bubble.
absolutely spot on
How comfortable is Barkha facing the Radia tapes question? Talk about pot calling the kettle black.
Ms. Dutt also knows that no Muslim would ever vote for the BJP but she won't make it a part of any discussion or debate.
20% of muslim voters in India vote BJP
Never once Barkha mentioned the Sar tan se Juda gang. Lynching of Kanhaiya lal, palghar sadhus.
Salvatore's take on Sedition stats pre and post 2014 is a tight slap on politicians who skew news in the garb of journalists or statisticians.
There has been a muslim appeasement practised publicly and privately in India during congress and UPA regimes. Convertions were allowwd to take place freely. Premium citizen benefits to muslims. Now these appeasements are not available now. All citizens are treated equal. Now most Indians know this. Having said this, there are states where moulvis are paid from state exchequer for teaching religion in madarsas. Can you believe it? The haj pilgrims given financial help. These benefits are not available to other religions. So what are you talking, Barkha?
Whole heartedly agree with Salvatore's concluding remarks
Muslims have right to education , why aren’t they getting educated and building a social forward society, because their community itself wants to remain backward and want social benefits from govt across countries , this WSJ journalist has an agenda behind question
Their are Ashrafs ( foreign origin elites ) and then there are ajlaf/ arzals ( local converts ) . Ajlaf & arzals are cannon fodder for the political agenda of Ashrafs. The vast majority of muslim opinion makers are Ashrafs and will do everything they can to prevent the ajlaf/ arzal from joining the national mainstream . This is very similar to Jat Sikh khalistani propagandists who claim to speak for all Sikhs but are pushing forward the agenda of the jat Sikh landowner entitled elite caste.
Pakistan was also an Ashrafi + west project.
Very much agree with Dr Salvatore
Thank you professor🙏
Indians working for india's progress, nobody asking anyone to not join the team
Modi is a natural leader and a leader of masses who actually meant for development of India. We know very well. Need not require Barkha Dutt certificate. Let her concentrate and confine the advise to Congress especially to Raghul how he should speak in foreign countries when ever he visits.
Another mindless bhakt
Every time I listen to Dr. Babonese, I end up becoming more educated. Thank you for your detailing, which for sure, is missing on the journalist's part.
she tried so hard yet dnt went far..... 😂😂😂😂 facts brought fwd very well
good whipping to burkha and her ilk by the dr
Great interview! I dislike Burkha but I am proud of how the interview was carried out. But Salvatore showed that our journalists need to do their homework on data. I hope we can have good opposition someday who is not just a Modi/BJP hater but a force for positive change. Right now BJP is getting away with a lot of issues.
If parsis, Christians, Jews, jains, sikhs, etc are not socially excluded why would Muslims, the second largest majority be socially excluded? Are they socially excluded by others or are they excluding themselves thanks to their own community leaders?
Came here for Salvatore. More needs to be done by BJP/India to prove the fact that Indian muslims live in a democracy.. Crazy but a fact..
Nonsense. How many muslims did you talk to? Ask them if they prefer staying in India or prefer to migrate to Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, just to name some muslim-majority countries.
@@eklektek lol, even Hindus want migrate to US . That is not the point 😂😂
Unfortunately American mainstream view of India is skewed to the hilt. India's conservative traditional parties are more liberal than the American conservatives. In Indian context conservative party will be terms extreme conservative and democratic party as an centrist. What are you talking about ? Indians are more diverse than a monolithic two party rule and more diverse than a two language in United states...English and maybe spanish to a certain extent. Does that mean Americans are discriminating people based on linguistic basis and political freedom ? Its anybody's guess. If you are a frog in a well, you are always a frog. The democracy in India has imbibed the tradition of checks and balances. It has helped the country survive during tumultous times.
She threw everything at hom and he simply replied her based on comparative data. Oh the helplessness.
They want muslims to be main streamed but nobody is talking about killings by muslims. Bc her jgah muslimo ki gaand dhone aa jaate hain. Christians feels like its completely okay to speak in favor of muslims because they are huge in numbers.But we hindus are minority in the world,we have to defend ourselves.
Even after radia tapes she goes around shamelessly as a journalist .
Does Obama or this reporter Sabrina know about the Liaqat Nehru pact. I will quote it here, "The Liaquat-Nehru Pact (or the Delhi Pact) was a bilateral treaty between India and Pakistan in which refugees were allowed to return to dispose of their property, abducted women and looted property were to be returned, forced conversions were unrecognized, and minority rights were confirmed." How many Sikh and Indian women in Pakistan have been forcibly converted? Does this Pakistani-American reporter not know about this? What the hell was she doing when Imran Khan came to White house on the invitation from President Trump. Pakistani mindset is the migraine of this world.
Salvatore Babones 👌
I don't agree with Barkha on many issues but Mojo is becoming my favourite channel. She gets experts from every side.
AND LIKE RANA BURQA IS ALSO NEUTRAL LOL
Kudos to you Barkha Ma'am and 100% agree with Dr. Barbones - "India is a leading democracy for developing world with $2500 GDP"
We should rather ask Muslim leaders in India why they discourage Muslims to be part of the BJP and positions of leadership.
Having said that I just remember that Islam is about disempowering and marginalizing Muslims from others rather than seeking inclusion.
Muslim exceptionalism a d exclusion is driven by Muslim leaders. Not by anyone else.
Yup. The whole psyche is a mix of victimhood complex and delusions of grandeur.
Great critical analysis of Modi visit. I am a big fan of professor Babones. He’s fair and speaks with data to backup instead of mudslinging by pseudo intellectuals in the US who don’t have any data.
Very very happy with Mr. Babones reply to Barkha.
Must watch this interview. Salvatore Babones successfully shut Barkha Dutt. And hits & misses of Modi's usa visit. Very interesting!
What a enjoyable interview where prof Salvatore thrashed Barkha left and right. Barkha when will you learn lesson and keep your biases aside? Will you ever defend your country on foreign soil or news papers?
Mr Babonas wiped the floor with Barkha in this interview 😂
Prof. Babones wins bouts by KO only ... KO with data.
Good points made. But also i would imagine that if for years there was a particular kind of rhetoric around India, its not going to be possible to make a 180 degree turn over this one visit.
I think its a waste of time trying to earn brownie points with the US or indeed the west. In the end, they are imperialist powers. We Indians are not. So why waste time trying to score points on a system that is completely unfair anyways? Grab the investments both tech and funding and build. Once you are wealthy, you will suddenly become incredibly attractive! Thats all it really takes. The rest is hogwash
Spoken like a true pragmatist 🙏. I completely agree. We can all sulk at the accusations but ultimately power speaks. Just get rich, that's who drive the world and it's narrative.
Why do Indians prefer to migrate to the West in droves? Four and a half million Indians in America alone legally and several hundreds more illegals. On the point of Indians getting "Rich" becoming attractive that is the single most problems with Indians. If they are wealthy then who cares about the meaning of life. Desperate poverty is the driver in India whereas the rest of the Western world other things are sometimes more important. Am one of those legal persons who fled India 50+ years ago and little seems to have changed
Yes, completely agree. Power and wealth begets respect, no amount of “secularism” or “democracy” is going to give us that. China is where it is, democracy be damned. India needs to put development at the core, not the ideals that the west conveniently purports to uphold at times, and forgets at other times.
It comes so naturally to these type of India journalists who write and expecting professors to support. He is talking fact based and these journalists want to keep pushing their agenda.
Barkha, feedback - your audio quality is poor and the volume is dramatically different between you and him making it difficult to listen. Easy fix.
Thanks for the show!
Barkha is coming out of her long hibernation, hope she has introspected during this period and is wiser.
I don't know Barkha what your intention was in having this interview. It seemed from the word go, that you are trying to get Dr Babones change his views. I don't think you listened to anything he said- you did not build on any of the pointers he gave. I am not suggesting that you should change your mind. All I am saying here is that you lost an opportunity to seriously engage on points counter to yours. For every data point Dr Babones brought up, you brought up a minimum of two to counter his. Was this the purpose of this call with him? However, I must hand it to you that you were generous in giving space to someone whose views you do not share, whose data you are not impressed with!
Lol muslims not give vote to bjp why will bjp give ticket to muslim
Barkha please fix your volume. Prof Babones voice is much better!
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Close your eyes and every thing is rosy
Choosing only one from plenty exhibits what your preferences are. Fortunately, this Nation's progress is independent of individual choices.
Thank you Prof. Babones for being the voice of reason in this. Truly appreciate it.
Bravo Salvatore
Good interview.
looking forward to a deeper dive in the truth of religious freedom and freedom of expression in India compared to the rest of the democratic world. this should include looking at real data not refer to journolists/opeds/professors/activists. let us look at real data and compare it to other countries. and include people from both sides (critics/supporters). people like Babones, sanjeev sanyal, abhijeet iyer mitra, anand ranganathan, jai sai deepak should be included. not their less smart proxies.
India is a huge and vibrant democracy judging by what you can get away with over and above your natural freedom
PM was asked a specific question but he sidestepped with his answer
Americans raise this issue as a strategy to pressurise Indian government to buy weapons and opening Indian market to American companies
Best thing you don’t allow duplicate democratic prime minister of India to speak about democracy!
Barkha Datt may not wear a burqa but she is a big queen 👑 of them 😆📖😂
Candidates, Hindus or Muslims are chosen on demographics and win ability
98% wooooo hooooo . ... How about them apples Obama
I like to share some info i just heard standing ovations are some times good gesture as a protocols for invited guests not necessarily for Mody speech.
US Congress is not always nice. If they don’t like someone they will call out. Remember they called Obama liar when he was giving the state of union speech.
Prof Salvatore used most apropriate sentenses to express the reasoning in most authentic way! People who like Salman Khan's on screen persona, would like Salvatore - eventhough there is nothing common between the two except for the one thing that matters the most: Authenticity!
For Salvatore❤
Salvatore 🙏
I need burnol badly
“😮burnol is not working uh uh .tired of using” bhurkha Bibi
Whose responsibility is to respond to false and consistent narratives superimposed by those who have an agenda of their own?
I usually dont watch MOJO although subscribed .... but from last two days... your reporting at par from all others...
Modi is confused in his visit ...his mind is in Patna..what a reply he gave to journalist...diplomatically explained India abides by constitution but not a secular country
Nice discussion
Once one type of American hard data is accepted...all others also have to b accepted...that's d dilemma
Not necessary. All are not created equal.
Keep trying Barkha. You have been booted out of Indian Media and soon you will be out of any media. Stick to your SoGa and RaGa worship
Is he gonna solve Indian democracy issues from USA?
The great India should has educated and groom PM
Massive respect for Prof.babones...a country needs qualified n non aligned ppl like him...the world needs truth seekers n real critics like him❤❤...unlike journalists like burkha who just rants against d govt n never appreciates d good work by govt
Babones is back 😅😅😅 again. In Australia nobody cares about him
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why is it that only your channel has to brng up this subject? just look at the brilliant replay PM Modi gave and it is true fact, why don't you ever talk about the minorities' in Pakistan
Barkha Datt may not wear a burqa but she is 😆📖😂
Even Christians are also rare in parliament elected on BJP tkt
Barkha remains biased and bitter for her loss of relevance. When the data is against her proposition she turns to anecdotes to reiterate her biases. She remains our own resident Hinduphobic. Rana Ayub.
Babu -nesh .It makes sense.
Burkha Dutt the original and number 1 Modi baiter. She did her best to counter the professor. Dutt squirming with the professor's narrative.
Burkhaji: Thanks for bringing different perspectives
How many Christians and Hindus got tickets in AIMIM for elections?
Talk of what the talks achieved, rather than get digressed by issues not relevant to the talks.
Why do Barkha and her kin not come out of their obsessions
because of who pays them
It is quite probable that Billion dollars of Soros could translate into one question of WSJ at the press conference. If that could be the case it is not a bad performance for the eco system he has created.
Ms. Dutta chose one questionfrim the plenty of the great achievements. Likewise, this eco system can pick up the truth only if they want to. Like, the famous weapons of mass destruction.
The problem of this eco system is not the democracy in India. It is Modi.
Unfortunately for them, Modi has no interest in their opinion of him. He cares only what country gets. He exactly knows what Democrates think of him. His focus is only the business. And, that's precisely why does not engage himself at any level in this argument.
Opinions will evaporate. The truth only prevails.
Babones keeps talking about the data, but what’s his data source? If that’s corrupt or systemically skewed then so - no fault of his own - are his conclusions.
He is talking about the PEW research on people of all religions in India. Why don’t you go through it ?
Dekh, we already divided the country once to solve your problems . even if we divide India again , I can guarantee that there will be demand for another division in 100 yrs.
Your types can be easily weaponised by anybody willing to meddle in India. That's the real issue.
Really?? Which is why he addressing the US congress again after chairing the G20. Get a life! lol.
Salvatore you are a person of details but come on Barkha show who I call her lazy journalist and has no research of her own or any depth except picking on headlines.
Sabse bada Feku kaun all lies by PM.....
Where the Muslims are not happy:
They're not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.
They're not happy in Indonesia.
So, where are they happy?
They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in India.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.
They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!
And who do they blame [for their unhappiness]?
Not Islam...not their leadership...not themselves... They blame the countries in which they are HAPPY! And they want to change the countries in which they're happy, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy.
Try to find logic in that.
ahe has been pro Congress- how many presidents were muslims
You are still biased Barkha. People will put up only those who can win elections. Muslims who can win elections are few. Take a balanced view, as a journalist, and I am not a BJP supporter😀 😂😂but a teacher who believes in teaching what is right
Good to see Barkha 2.0
Nuanced and direct in her interactions with panelists most of whom are high quality
She talked about hate speeches given by the Hindus factions, but conveniently ignored hate speeches given by muslims and that show her true colour.
What madni said infront of all other religious preacher was not hate speech? What Akbaruddin said about genocide of Hindus was not hate speech? What others maulvis and Maulana say about Hindus are not hate speech? This lady would be exposed by me within 2 minutes if she agrees to have debate with me with proper evidence.
wow this so good.
Barkha Dutt and Salvatore Babones simply too good
Muslim minority Muslim minority Muslim minority Muslim minority
What’s going on and how long the same rhetoric subject.. no other community in India except Muslims???? Stop barking 👎
burqa- PLEASE ADVISE HOW MANY HINDUS IN OWASIS PARTY?
Not a good thumbnail, please refrain from such tricks, Mr Salvatore has no Ghamcha etc.
Stop ridiculing right wing.