Which Fountain Pen Is The Best Engineered (Lamy 2000 Part 2)
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Decided to answer some of the comments from the first video, with... another video! Also went a bit deeper on some of the tiny details. The little clues of how this pen was designed & manufactured are there if you know what to look for.
We're going to find things like Metal Injection Molding, part finishes, and more!
It may not be your favorite pen, or feel its the best "bang for the buck." However, the little details that the trained and experience eye can see, tell the story of the attention to detail that went into the making of this pen. When you understand the amount of effort and brain power invested... I consider it a bargain!
Part1 • Which Fountain Pen Is ...
Absolutely left speechless. Somewhere a lamy designer/engineer would be having a nice smile that there efforts were understood. Great effort.
Thanks buddy. Probably some errors in my assessment for sure, but it's fun to find little clues of how things are made & possibly what the other person was thinking
You can make a series out of this. When you thought everything was covered in the part 1 and the part 2 goes deeper into the same pen. Really well done.
Part 3! Part 3! Part 3!
Lol... That's about it for this pen. But more vids will be coming
@@Doodlebud I think a video like this on the Pilot Vanishing Point would be sweet
@@d.molina5644 if & when I get one.. I'll be giving it a look over
Okay. This is hands-down the best video on fountain pen engineering I’ve ever seen. Not only have I subscribed but you’ve convinced me to get a Lamy 2K. I’ve avoided doing that for years. Thank you for adding your engineering expertise to the conversation.
Hey buddy, I appreciate the kind words & support from a fellow Canuck 🇨🇦. Love your channel too! I'm so close to buying an OB spare nib for my L2K. Lots of nib choices! Hope you enjoy the pen!
@@Doodlebud You got me online shopping right now! Yay! Another Canuck pen nerd! Cheers! PS: I have had so many viewers recommend a Lamy 2K, but I just couldn't get by the price for a dull black pen with a hooded nib. I bought a Lamy Studio Palladium instead with an OM nib. The nib is great, the pen not so much. What would you recommend for my Lamy 2K? Medium? OB? OM?
@@InkquiringMinds It doesn't take much convincing to get a penhead to buy another pen 🤣. Don't put the burden of nib choice on me LOL! That's the biggest decision when buying! I've always been a fine/Xfine person. But OM/OB/OBB are super fun to write with. People do complain about the "sweet spot" on the Lamy nib. So not sure how that goes on an oblique.... They already have a narrow sweet spot as it is. See what you can dig up on oblique lamy nib reviews (as I'm sure you're already on it & your whole afternoon will be spent doing that) 🤔
@@Doodlebud I'll blame you for getting me to buy a Lamy 2K but nib choice IS on me. I do like the OM. It has a sweet "angle" rather than spot. It might be cool to swap OM and OB between the Studio and the 2K. BTW, Cultpens has a 15% off discount until Wednesday this week, when you subscribe to their newsletter. And they have free shipping to Canada over $108.78 Cdn. I think I'll have to pull the trigger earlier than expected. Thanks so much for the feedback!
@@InkquiringMinds I have a cart at Cult pens with some sheen inks that I'm debating to pull the trigger on. Will probably come down to the wire just before the discount expires LOL
Between the “carwash” and “best engineered pen”, by far the best fountain pen review channel. Giddy up DB😀.
Wow best comment I've gotten yet. Glad someone enjoys what is fun to me 😂
Doodlebud, thank you for this channel. You have taught me to appreciate writing instruments a whole lot more, by the way you talk about them, review them, discuss the engineering intricacies, show design flaws to be wary of, and so much more! Now I take the time to pause, evaluate and appreciate a writing instrument (and the work it took to make it!) before committing to it!
This was my grail pen for years. I never wanted to spend that much on a pen so it remained a dream. Then my girlfriend bought it for me for my birthday. It absolutely lives up to the hype. Feels great. Writes perfectly. And as you’ve demonstrated, this “simple” pen is more complex than it appears. Every aspect was engineered to perfection. The design is simple elegance. And the writing experience is superb. It instantly became my favorite pen.
Beautiful. The Lamy 2000, a work of engineering art!
Definitely not for everyone, and wasn't even in my top 3 pens for Appelboom. However, the level of detail & design consideration that went into each and every part is amazing
I just bought the Lamy 2000 before I saw this video. I have a new appreciation for it now! Thx!
Give my creation LIIIIIIIIFE!!!!! I did watch the whole thing, despite several ads, so well done. The Pen Collector has a good vid of a 1969 Lamy 2000 and Montblanc's response, the 220, not that high-end companies would ever copy. Thanks, Doodlebud!
Sorry about the ads, gotta try to make a dollar here & there. I'll check out the pen collector. Haven't seen that channel 6
I appreciate this 2-part deep dive.
The part with the angle on the section being the angle the nib touches the paper was impressive. I literally just bought a 2000 and it showed up yesterday.
My gosh, you did not dissapoint. Fantastic stuff ! 🙌
love it! So excited about Part 2!!
Great channel! Thanks for the creative ideas and fresh approach to fountain pens.
Love Part 1 and Part 2 great in depth review.
That was awesome, part 2 was even more in depth. Such engineering and design appreciation is often overlooked, thanks for giving us the insight.
I could be totally wrong with my assessment, but I calls it as I sees it with what knowledge I do have & what I can spot 🤣
love your review dude.... excellent.
You have your signature series right here! Great content!
I have another series planned, will be fun
19:20 is just amazing. Obviously intentional. Thank you, and PLEASE do more things like this!
I'll keep 'em coming. Obviously with this pen there are so many tiny details that were intentional, tough to do with every pen as most don't have this level/depth of design to them. But will try my best😉
I love the video. Thanks for showing and explaining why the Lamy 2000 is an engineering marvel among pens. Very, very cool!
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I love spotting witness marks. Nice call out under the clip for the metal injection molding (MIM) clue.
I've done only a limited, cautious disassembly of my 2000. I had no idea it could be COMPLETELY disassembled without tools! Inspiring!
I would recommend leaving the piston assembly alone unless you really need to access it for service or something. The clicking when removing the piston is the piston sharft gears slipping on the nut.
@@Doodlebud Thanks. I'll refrain!
I love the engineering focus of your channel. I haven't really seen that competence anywhere else on youtube
My engineering brain just has to analyze everything and wonder how it was made
Love your overview of this 🖊. ❤️ you make me appreciate it even more. 😍
I had no idea of the details until I sat down one night and really started looking at it. So I figured I'd pull out my phone and make a vid LOL
Nicely done! Love your reviews. But my lamy 2000 is one of my favorite pens I love how it looks, feels, and writes.
Glad you like them!
Great video! It definitely was informative and you covered legitimate items. Never knew injection metal molding was a thing esp for pens
You put words to my gut intuition when I study a pen. I feel for the construction and listen to minute squeaks, creaks, and bends of a pen telling me if it will last or it’s just a gimmick
You MUST be an engineer to marvel at those details, and understand them!
Interesting details:
There is another little mark under the clip on the other side of "Germany2" (maybe as a blow hole for the injection process?).
One more thing: I saw some clip saying "Germany2", but also some say "Germany 1" what is all that mystery !!!
Putting the pen back together, did you notice, it is an exact amount of turns to put the body to the tip?
Every time. What that does is you can then have the clip ears on a vertical or horizontal axis to the nib, for those who finds that the ears hurt their fingers!
Now, the circlip with the off-centered ears! That is just fantastic! I never noticed that but it make such perfect sense! Only Germans would go to that extent!
Great episode. Thank you!
It's confirmed from LAMY that the "GERMANY 2" is the cavity number for the MIM (metal injection molding) die. They have two different dies, the numbering helps with quality control. If you find a particularly old one (2nd generation), it will have "W GERMANY" printed under there, although 1st generation didn't have any sort of labeling under there.
I would love to get a vintage 1st Gen L2K. I've seen pics and can tell how it was made compare to now but want to see more
awesome!
Good work Bud! Very interesting. There's a good amount of time and energy involved in this. I love to consider the technical involvement and the quality and originality (many copiers out there that, for some, end up doing a great job, most countries the far east, but I hold a deep respect and affection for the inventors ;-) of the materials used in the making of my pens. So in that sense, YOUR work here was original! Keep up the great work.
Might look at the Rotring 600 at some point but I love these videos.
I am making a video on the pen and I took the piston out as I was playing with it, referred back to your video here to figure out how to get it back in just right! Thank you again for making these! :D
No worries buddy. I would recommend to everyone to minimize the number of times you take the piston fully apart. Can apply grease to the inisde of the barrel & that's good enough. I've only fully taken it out twice.
@@Doodlebud I did it that one time and I needed to watch your video to put it back in. One and done XD
Hey DB! I enjoy your videos immensely! Your comments and even the way you speak has me chuckling often. As a fellow engineer, this video and the other Lamy 2K Best Engineered video are two of my favorites. The engineering that goes into many fountain pens is a substantial attraction and a reason for why I collect (I also like mechanical pencils). Some of these pens, and perhaps the Lamy 2K is the best example, are so thought out, I cannot help but be thoroughly impressed. Thank you for the great videos and for sharing your passion and sense of humor. One video I recently watched, you said "well, I screwed it up at the beginning, so lets stay consistent." HAHAHAHA!!!! Fantastic!
I don't really rehearse or plan my vids for a matter of fact lol. Just have the general idea then film it figure it out as I go. The majority of engineering is finding out all the things you did wrong or failed to think of, or sometimes discover "oh, I had no idea that was a thing I had to consider." So I kinda make my vids the same way. Start off with an idea, work with the knowledge you have, & figure out along the way what's going on. Glad you enjoy my vids, their fun for me to do 👍🤓
Got one of the vintage 18k ones coming in the mail today. Looking forward to looking at all these things you mentioned in person!
Oh wow a vintage one! Those will be made differently. I've seen some pics and can tell how the parts were made vs on modern ones
@@Doodlebud Perhaps after I've played around with it a bit I could lend it to you so you can do a comparison video.
@@salvatoreIII that would be super cool 😎
It's really a pinnacle of pen design and engineering, a shame it the last of its breed, the rest of the Lamy pens are more evolve in the way of the more simplicity but I think they lost a little of the sober elegance from the 2000, the Dialogue 3 and the Emporium.
I agree with you, they may be more exciting craft pens or more fun to write with, but the Lamy 2000 do what it has to and it do it well. Love the theme of the video, it would be cool if you can make another with different pens, especially some vintage pen. 😎👍💯👏
I want to be like this guy while collecting my pen. Has a good variety of brands and mechanism and best of all loves and understands the tools he uses. Wonderful.
I think I would consider the 2000 my grail pen but I just love big nibs a bit too much. Never knew they can be dismantled like this. One day I'll get it as a daily driver though.
Hope you're able to get one of your grail pens soon👍. Thanks for checking out my vid
No Lamy FPs ... yet, but I did pick up a roller ball pen to use as a gift. I’m not sure I like the look of the black L2K, but the metal L2K has appeal to me. Too bad it’s cost is considerably higher. Thanks DB, very instructive video. 👍👨🦳
More of such intelligent reviews, please.
Don't know if I qualify as intelligent 😂 but will try my best
I am astounded by the remarkable amount of precision and care that was put into the design and function of the Lamy 2000. I have one with a double-broad nib and absolutely love it! It's a prime example of Lamy's credo that form should follow function. Regarding part one of your examination of the Lamy 2000, I always wondered, "How does the cap prevent itself from being pressed on too far to avoid damaging the nib?" You answered my question. Thank you for making these entertaining and informative videos. Liked and subscribed. 👍
It's all those little details which tell me just how much thought went into every single component of the pen. It also tells me how they care about their work which I completely respect.
Very instructive :)
Well done engineer. Nicely described. The Lamy 2000 is best, as you say, but not necessarily my favourite either
You sure have a different perspective on fountain pens and as ever this video was most illuminating. From my limited knowledge and I know that they’re different things I would say that the fit and finish on a Pelikan seems more robust. Maybe evens Pilot and Mont Blanc are more reassuring. That said the thought that went into the design of this pen is beyond compare. Thank you Doodle Bud.
My background just naturally makes me look at pens from design, manufacturing, assembly, materials, etc.
I like how you deep dive into every part like AvE does with tools... with a little less energy...
He's a very unique individual
@@Doodlebud the only time I hear someone use skookum other than me are on this channel and AvE haha
It's way underused! Sometimes stuff is just seriously SKOOKUM!
Excellent video indeed. 😁
Could you do a similar video on nib designs and the engineering behind them as you have a wide range of nib styles!
I'll see what I can do. With nibs you just get to look at them lol. They don't disassemble so tough to figure out more. But was thinking of doing one under the microscope with different nibs to see what we can find
Master Video Part 2🏆 And all the nib sizes it comes! F,M,B,BB,OM,OB,etc same price. Plus, one day, if a cap alone gets in your hands...I won't miss the mechanism of the clip that you may find. You Rock Man👍🥇
Glad you enjoyed the series 😁
Wow. I have a new found respect for Lamy now.
With the L2K they weren't messing around.
Great video,
I agree for the most part. But I think that there might be a little bias towards cap mechanisms.
For Pilot Custom 823 for example I wouldn't say "Nothing too crazy" The vacuum filling mechanism is crazy and not many FPs can pull that of that well. I bet it took many designs and lots of trial and error to get it right. No matter how you do it it will get very great amount of ink inside almost every time. And from a design point of view since its not a piston, the length of the piston stops being a limiting factor. And you can also use the vacuum mechanism to seal of the ink compartment from the nib. That becomes very valuable if you are getting on an airplane with your pens.
Also I don't know the engineering and design process for designing and manufacturing process behind nibs (which are arguably the most important part of the pen) but those nibs on 823... They did somethings right :)
So having a cap that clicks nicely is very cool. and the manufacturing process that you can assemble the pen almost entirely by hand is admirable but I give kudos to Pilot custom 823 for solving some practical problems.
Again, great video. I know its a little bir nit picking but thats my opinion for a sall part of the video.
This is a pretty good and balanced take. Another thing I want to add is it seems like both the 2K and the 823 are not designed to be taken apart - I have heard reports of both pens cracking after multiple disassemblies (although the issue seems to be significantly more common on the 823, so kudos to Lamy) - so ultimately ease of disassembly doesn't matter *that much*.
Man, I thought that you'd nailed it with part 1 of this... I was wrong.
Part 2 was even better. Makes be appreciate my L2Ks even more.
I still cannot enjoy the section as much as I would love to.
Gripping it always feels weird and hard to get it right it all the time.
But the nib is singing, I got F and B and they both crooners...
Keep them coming!
Doo...
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Doodlebud!
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Glad you enjoyed it! Didn't know how deep to go, but seemed like round 2 was needed
Excellent review (both parts). Being an engineer myself, and owning many fountain pens, I was just hooked on Lamy 2000. One thing (I have to check your first video again) you may have missed to mention is - the material. They use makrolon polycarbonate. Now - where the extension of their engineering goes to the next level - makrolon is a clear material. And if you look at the ink window - there you can see it. Now, during the final brushing of the metal, the particles apparently (metal) make makrolon darker. It is microscopic but visible. So, they make makrolon dark, but have a special way of making those ink windows protected so they stay clear. And there’s more to that material - like why did they decided to use it vs. normal plastic (durability) etc... amazing.
I didn't do any review if the material science. Definitely not my strong suit!
@@Doodlebud Check it out, there are number of posts online about it - it made me appreciate this pen even more (in fact that was one of the reasons I bought it first time... 😄 )
Excellent videos !!!
@@strelnikoff7 You might like the "sciencey" approach I did towards ink reviews. czcams.com/video/hFlaM4HIYoI/video.html
The makrolon is injected around a clear ink reservoir tube. They use small makrolon pellets. The colour is not from brushing the metal. You get a glimpse of the process in a goldspot pen video.
GREAT Video... really appreciate all the work you have done on this series! There is nothing like it on CZcams in Pendom... Based on what you've shown, I'd refer to these videos not as the Best Engineered, but rather the MOST Engineered. I think the difference lies in the over complicated nature of the Lamy 2000 to achieve its design goals. The Lamy 2000 looks to me to be severely over complicated for what it is, way too many unnecessary small parts, too much plastic, etc. Personally, I love German engineering, especially their attention to close tolerances and precision engineering, but this pen is an good example of what German Engineers do worst...run amok. When I think of Best Engineered, I'm thinking well engineered simplicity, very few quality parts and an elegant design. When I think of those things as criteria, the Lamy 2000 falls short of what I would consider Best Engineered. An example of this in the world of firearms would be the Russian Makarov made by the East Germans, or the Glock Series of Pistols. My thoughts, ymmv
Very instructive.
I had an e-motion, which had the same 'clicky' clip problem. I had it returned thinking it was a factory flaw, got a new one, and realized it was more of a misconception. I am not a picky guy but I thought it was kind of unacceptable and I sold it pretty quick.
Nice vid again, thanks
I did a video just about that click. It's part of a design flaw/oversight
czcams.com/video/fJpdJ3lyH5o/video.html
@@Doodlebud I've just watched the video, very informative, thank you. My main concern was that it would go worse with time, but the pen wasn't for me anyway, so no regrets! Those design/engineering videos are awesome btw, it really had values compared to other pen channels.
@@mambokurtz Thx, I try to do those types of insights when I can
The Lamy 2000 is my favorite pen, you forgot to take the cap apart so you missed a few more engineering points that can be found inside. Otherwise, great video!
Well now I've watched the first video, the top of the cap is not a plug, it is just screwed on. You might have to push a thin dowel or tool up inside the cap to keep the "nut" from turning the first time, but the cap comes completely apart like everything else. Enjoy!
When the Germans or the Japanese really put their minds to doing something well, you can expect perfection.
Yup! When we needed high end precision gear for some engineering projects, we looked for German & Japanese made stuff
How does the cap 'snap' onto the back of the pen? Was thinking about that after your first Lamy video.
It's just the compression bars that are in the cap. Not really a snap, more of a squeeze
you are too stronk! :-D ... Poor P51 :( ... Also, the tabs on the ring are not on the center line... wow!! that is insane engineering on Lamy's part. Amazing video again.
wow i used to think the lamy 2k was cool, now i really want one
I am fascinated by feeds. Seeing the Lamy feed's top slide come off was a treat. There has to be an engineering reason behind each feature, for example, how many fins, how much gap between fins, how many top channels, how deep. Why do the Lamy feeds vary from the Pilots vary from the Pelikan (M800 specifically, mine is on order!)? Evidently different companies have their own interpretations of how the ink flow/air flow balance is to be managed. I would love to understand their thinking. But I can't find sources of information at that level.
Yeah that's where the whole proprietary stuff comes in. I "assume" there is a bunch of testing as far as flow, controlling where the ink goes/stays, minimizing leaking or nib creep, clogging, ensure it keeps up to the nib, etc. But I can also tell with other ones NONE of this stuff was tested 😂
The Lamy 2000 is very well engineered and well made indeed. But I think you kinda mixing up good engineering, production tolerance, and complicity a bit. IMO if theres a more simple design that works as good or better, the simple design is the better engineered. For example, the Pelikan M800 piston vs Lamy 2000 piston, the Pelikan has less parts, smoother operation, and less stress on the material when disassemble even though you need a tool. That imo is better engineered.
One thing I have to agree with you is that the Lamy 2000 cap is really well thought out for it to work properly with the shape of the pen. Missing any of those part will fail the whole cap, and thus the cap is really well engineered.
Talking about engineering on pens, I think Conid Bulkfiller worth a mention. The idea behind that filling mechanism is really cleaver and combined the advantage of Vac filler and piston filler together. Hope I will own one of those in the future if they ever re-open again
Bulk filler is something I would love to get my hands on as well! Yes, simple is typically better. But the piston is a great design considering no tools required. It's also bold when a manufacturer is ok with any user (including competitors) being able to disassemble their product with ease. For me engineering combines all aspects when making a product. Design (aesthetics), design features on individual parts, manufacturing process considerations, assembly, materials, quality/dependable, lifetime, service, etc.
man... what a top level tech review ... cool ( would have loved to see also the cap unmount with the small clip-spring etc ). Anyways, can you do som` like .... best engineered vintage fp? :D
Tricky to do for some vintage pens as they use sealant to put them together but could see what I can do. You might like a few recent vids I did that take this type of approach.
Wingsung 699 VS Pilot 823: czcams.com/video/psX10uaBwfk/video.html
What I look for in pens from an engineering perspective: czcams.com/video/dDzEyaHDOr4/video.html
Outstanding video and well worth the watching. On a side note, I'd love to know where you sourced the FANMU syringe. Lots a cheap knockoffs but that looks like a quality device.
Glad you enjoyed it! I got mine from Aliexpress. Here's the link
a.aliexpress.com/_mMb3yOJ
DB - it would be interesting to compare the 2K's piston mechanism to, say, the TWSBI Eco. The Lamy 2K's design is sophisticated elegance. The seeming lack of flash simply leaves room to appreciate the beauty of the functional design, rather than non-functional embellishment.
Hmmm... maybe I could strip down the piston units from a few different pens and do a comparison, never thought of that before 👍🤔
If you take the piston mechanism out, and put it back in, the knob can be loose. Taking it out and putting it back in again fixes it, but do you know a way to make sure that doesn't happen?
Don't know exactly what you mean, but I found when you reassemble, it seems to align itself & engage the piston screw properly into the nut located in the knob. This was only the 2nd time I took the piston out as I don't want to give extra wear/tear to the parts.
Yeah powder metallurgy is cool but if it were machined, it would be stronger (not there's that much stress) and even cooler from a craftsmanship perspective.
Cooler yes, but longer to make, more setups... Higher price. All part of the LEAN manufacturing process
Amazing video! I noticed that your Lamy 2000 is an EF, could you tell me how does it compare with the Pilot Metropolitan F?
I love snap cap pens I think is the more convenient caping mechanism but when the caps rotates I drives me nuts. Does the Lamy 2000 one spins?
The cap does rotate, but you have to force it. And when it does, nothing lossens & or scratches. Don't own a metropolitan so can't say. My L2K review (one of my early vids) has some line width comparisons
czcams.com/video/Ppmm-v5aCS0/video.html
@@Doodlebud thanks I'll check it out
I have a question because I just looked a bit into the history of metal injection molding. Wikipedia says it was patented in 1972 and started to play a serious role in different industries past 1980. The Lamy 2000 went into production in 1966. So if the section is made with metal injection molding, did they change something over time or did they machine it out differently or something? I'm just wondering, maybe you know more about it?
After all there is a reason that this iconic masterpiece is leaving their factory still brand new after 55 years. Makrolon by the way has nothing to do with fiber or anything, it's 'just' polycarbonate. But a very good one by the guys at Bayer here in Germany who actually invented the world first process to industrially produce this material. So they absolutely knew what they were doing and how to turn the wanted properties of the material to a maximum.
I have only seen pics of an older Lamy lower section, and it is different which leads to differences in construction. I would have to have a look at some good pics where its fully disassembled to have a better idea of how it was made. Or better yet, get my hands on one so I can play.
This is similar to AvE, but for fountain pens
The way it chooches in and out, would you say it's skookum?
But seriously though, any idea where I can get a replacement body? The threads on my Lamy 2000 cracked after many years of use and it's not really possible to repair it easily.
I think I've seen some replacement bodies online on ebay or something. And yes.... she's a seriously skookum pen!
the only thing left is to get a mass spectrometry to determine the exact composition of every material on that pen 😅
Or maybe get a some time on a SEM! Used to use one in a lab and it was always fun
@@Doodlebud that's beyond fun! that's porn for engineers 😂
Do others lamy nibs fit with the 2000's? I mean the studio nibs al star and so on. Great job.
L2K is its own nib as far as I know
The clip on my lamy2000 is pretty wobbly. Just wondering if yours has the same issue or if you know of a way to fix it? I got in touch with lamy, they weren't interested!
Just guessing but I would look at how secure the end of the cap is. Apparently it is screwed in, but with min it doesn't seem that way. Here's a disassembly video a viewer sent where somone took it apart. I tried & no way it's coming apart without exerting more force than I would want to. So follow at your own risk.
czcams.com/video/5V0jZAlelAE/video.html
@@Doodlebud Thanks!
can you review kaweco pens?
I don't own any Kaweco pens yet, but when I do I will most certainly do a review 👍
New to your channel. I very much appreciate your informative videos and now I have a man crush on you. I am a scientist and your approach is fantastic.
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You might appreciate this video then
czcams.com/video/SzYkIhuDDcc/video.html
This Playlist has more sciencey tip vids too
Engineering & Fountain Pens: czcams.com/play/PL6RAe6vPmtDiZnhH7NNjKORkwboOZUurR.html
Hey, the new Jinhao X159 (Montblanc 149) and Jinhao 80 (Lamy 2000) clones just got released, could you compare them with the originals and give an honest opinion about them? Thank you
I have the x159 arriving soon. As far as the Jinhao 80 I dunno. I look at the pictures and it doesn't impress me at all. Just a pen barrel that looks like the L2K. The molds have veins in them to "reproduce" the look of the makralon and that's about it. Already exciting nib in a new body shape... Meh 👎
Fantastic, Db....however, one little caveat: The clip !! Given that the material is Makrolon, would it tolerate any form of heat to separate (as you suggest it may be glued using an epoxy adhesive) that finial from the cap. I'm dying to know (altho' I have an idea how it's engineered within) how that pivot & spring interact precisely. I've played with the cap for a couple of minutes & noticed that along the longitudinal axis of the cap, the clip can be displaced forward approximately 2mm so that it is no longer flush to the bottom aspect of the ridge below the finial; clearly, with the polished end removed, that is how they insert the hinge/spring component (from above), & then just press/glue same home.
In regard to the front section retainer lugs for the cap, that principle is pretty old - it works in exactly the same way as a circlip (internal or external) on say, an engine mount - where there's no room to place a receiving nut to a bolt (in my callow youth, I stripped & rebuilt all my cars - to understand how they worked). Anyway, that's my five cents worth...very cool second part.
Yup works just like a circlip and slips into the grove in the cap. Same design I've done many times to hold in bearings.
Perfect radius on the grove to go in just right and also a stop so it doesn't go too deep and get stuck
Yessir.
I love the idea behind the Lamy 2000 but it doesn’t appeal to me as a fountain pen. XD I want a nice looking material, with a good looking and bouncy nib. But I do understand what you mean, it is in a museum according to pens and tea. I’m not sure in which though XD.
I might rent one and see what all the fuss is about.
I tried to take the Lamy 2000 grip section apart from the barrel and when I put it back, I found the transition from the steel part to the Makrolon is not as smooth as before, like the two parts are misaligned or something. Do you notice that with your pen? Thanks.
The fit should be perfect. Hope you didn't cross thread. Also check for debris in the threads (barrel & section) and that the oring at the end of the feed isnt getting pinched & misaliging things.
@@Doodlebud Thanks for reply. I didn’t mean the connection between the grip and the barrel that you unscrew. I mean the part where the white steel grip and the black Makrolon connected together.
@@ThinhPhamNumber1 Ahhh I've never taken that part off. I would again check for any adhesives/residue/burrs on the parts. It is possible that the parts aren't concentric. So might have to rotate them until the fit is perfect. Also depends on what type of fit the parts have. There is some type of clearance between the two parts so they can fit together. So again a slight adjustment may be required.
@@Doodlebud I didn’t take that part off either. I just unscrewed the grip like everyone else. I just feel that the seam between the black Makrolon and the white steel noticeable. Before taking the pen apart, that connection was impossible to notice, felt like one part.
I'm even more confused now 😂. Check that the metal ring clip is fully seated & the tabs are aligned with the notches
Hey Doodlebud can you do pilot vanishing point? Or let's get crazy and do a three-way VP curidas dialog 3 retractable nib extravaganza! I dunno about that, but I'd love to hear your take on a vanishing point.
Have a limited collection & limited funds LOL. Also tough to do on all pens. L2K has fantastic design, but also csn be fully broken down without breaking it or requiring special tools. But ones I can tske apart, I can do some vids on those
@@Doodlebud Fair enough, I don't want to literally crack open my pens either, ha! I'll be looking forward to your take on the next pen you choose and if I ever come across a busted up retractable nib pen I'll know where to send it for a breakdown.
@@manhuawang11 Any pens I can disassemble & then reassembled I'll go as far as I can.
Might not be the better engineered but IMO the P51 is one of the fountain pens with the best design.
Absolutely. More engineering isn't always better, but was blown away by the L2K. P51 is a phenomenal pen! Did a comparison between the L2K & P51
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The Lamy explanation and demo is fantastic Yes Lamy does excel at engineering design. But it's not just about complex engineering. The Lamy Al Star is an achievement through its elegance and simplicity at a low price. And, why are their converters such rubbish by comparison?
If I was to pick one glaring design fail on many pens it is the lack of attention to a good nib/ink seal when the pen is closed. Platinum highlights that with their 3776 and the marketing surrounding their decent seal.
Thanks for a great vlog.
I'm a little bit sad that after that close up of the ring you didn't comment on the crystallography. Regardless, thanks for this.
Lol I think chatting about FCC VS BCC is a bit overboard for a pen. Otherwise we'll have to get further down and open up the whole quantum wave function collapsing can of worms.
@@Doodlebud After you commented on the fact that it was magnetic is was almost negligent not to go there. :)
@@arthursmith1539 Well then we're gonna have to get into Many Worlds Theroy and explain to everyone how you get something from nothing, negative gravity with Einstein's equations, uniform quantum fields... Yadayadayda
@@Doodlebud I was explaining the the FCC vs BCC concepts to my 8 and 10 year olds earlier this evening and they were only mostly disinterested.
Now that I write that, I wish it weren't true.
Unfortunately I found out the cap finial is a separate part as my new 2000 has a spinning finial.
Perhaps try spinning it the other way to tighten?
@@Doodlebud it spins freely both ways. You can see the nut on the inside spin, however, there is nothing to grab to hold so I can unscrew or tighten the finial.
I've heard some people do it with a pen. Erase end up into the cap to grab it with friction. If it's a new pen I would let the seller know right away. Shouldn't be doing that
It's like AVE reviewing a pen
German engineering and design at its finest.
The look or grip section isn't for everyone but it is very well made
Are you related to AvE? You sound similar.
Nope, I said the same thing a while back. Striking resemblance!
Same here
Lol, I just found his channel maybe a month ago. Must be a BC-CAN engineering thing. But again, I'll take that as a compliment!
TMI. Also, TMA.
I just recently picked up my L2K. Sure it’s a well engineered pen-different from every other pen I have. However, the one major flaw it has is the nib. That ‘sweet spot’ totally offsets all the wonderful aspects of the pen.
I happened to drop it and, of course, the nib took the the brunt of the damage leaving me with a 14k piece of garbage. Long story short-I picked up a new nib from The Nibster and he tuned and and polished it. Complete world of difference. The pen now writes like it should have from the factory.
So, with all that wonderful engineering why ruin it with that awful nib?
no pilot metropolitan??
Not for this video
Can something be over-engineered? Just ask the WW II Nazi tank crews. lol
Can a Luxury item be over-engineered? No.
Edit: If you do more vids with small parts, consider tweezers.
It's more trying to fit parts together while working around a tripod, looking through the phone screen, & trying to give viewers a good angle & lighting which makes things tricky & fumble my hands. Same with writing while looking through the phone.
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Actually, I was referring to picking up the tab ring on a flat surface with thick fingers. lol Tweezers would have help. You were actually doing very well with the other parts.
You’re very rough with your pens.