Is the Spiky Ball worth upgrading?
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- This new piece of equipment can be amazing in some situations. But is it worth upgrading when we already have 2 amazing pieces on our king?
Edit: Correction needed on this video. My assumption was that HP increase was an acive ability activated when pressed but it is actually a passive ability that starts whenever the hero is deployed.
I still think the Vampstache is an excellent pairing 🙂
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Spiky Ball is trash untill the pro starts using it just like the Fireball 😂
Haha you know it! Then I will gladly eat my words 🙂
@@ClashTipsPodyou prob will haha
The 222 dps increase is too good to not be used
@@BatemGG it is the best of all the pieces but will just that and the damage from the spiky ball be able to overcome the huge value the gauntlet/rage vial are able to get during a smash attack? I’m honestly not sure and am excited to see what ends up happening in the meta 🙂
with the archer giant arrow 6:31 equipment plus spiky ball hmmm
Sucks that the king got 2 epics already and the RC has none 😢. We need the rocket spear now!!
I think they were going to release the rocket spear in April and then decided not to. It’ll come eventually I think 🙂
@@ClashTipsPodthe hogs are good
@@kevinmoz1953 that’s what I like using the most personally. Hogs in my pocket!
Yes it was suppose to be release in april. Then people complain epic release too fast so it was delay
Maybe July. Fireball in March, Spiky Ball in May
I love using it with my Root Riders and Giant Gauntlet. Just being able to tank in the middle of the base (because of giant gauntlet),destroying every trash building and hard damaging the fat ones. Then the rest of the army faster focusing on the fat buildings and bringing them down faster because they are already damaged is just insane.
I’ve heard several players mention the gauntlet/spiky ball combo. This might be the most optimal although it will be awhile before I can try it lol.
Very informative....you get the thoughts going. The mustache and the gauntlet works fine tho. They both are maxed.
Yeah I like mustache and gauntlet as well for max healing. I personally felt the rage vial was a tad bit better in the situations I was putting the king into but I wouldn’t argue with anyone who wanted to use the gauntlet instead.
Very informative mate. Glad I found ya. Nice work
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Totally agree this will pair great with Vampstash. i feel it will work well with either Rage or Gauntlet, especially in a hero dive. Even the sarthquake boots could. But imagine King and RC charge with each throwing their projectiles, followed by Warden fireball and then zap quakes. Against those bases with defences all clubbed together, they could wreak serious havoc
My man…. 🙂
I use vampstache/rage with giant gauntlet, works pretty good for me . I'm not going to start over a new equipment epic or legendary for some balls anytime soon.
I think a lot of players feel that way haha
Just Purchase that Bud....and don't upgrade...!
@@YashSharma-cf6gf yeah all the pieces are very well balanced so honestly using one over the other imo only offers a slight advantage in specific situations. I’d be happy with the 8 pieces I have maxed and never using another piece tbh
Spiky Ball + Vampstache at TH10 🤩
Yes! I’ve always said that th14 and below are much better served by the Vampstache.
it pairs well with eq boots
@@hardik6918 this is interesting. I’d like to see it in action 🙂
Spikey Ball and vampstache is goated at th11
Hey I just came back after a 2 year break (TH12) would you recommend it for me? (I haven't spend anything on any gear yet)
If you’d rather not spend gems on it later then yes grab it just to have it. For now, focus on 2 pieces for each hero and upgrade only those for whatever attacks you like using most. For me thats gauntlet/rage vial, healer puppet/invis vial, eternal tome/life gem, and Royal Gem/Hog puppet (which you won’t get til th14). Have fun with it! 🙂
even if spicky ball matches with player style attack, if player dont have enough ores to upgrade to a good level its like be equipment like fireball
True. My fireball isn’t even max yet either lol
So i will be having enough ores to max an epic equipment for th13 by the end of the week. Would you rather recommend maxing the fireball or the spiky ball then?
Mmmmm that’s a tough decision. I’ve seen some amazing attacks with the fireball so I would search for those videos on CZcams and then decide if you wanna use those attacks or not I think. But still tough decision 🙂
I suppose though for those of us that have limited upgrade resources, spending precious resources to upgrade the spikey ball, only to replace gear weve already spent a lot of resources on is not going to be the most effective use of our resources?
Yeah no. I have purchased a few extra passes on my main but my multiple other accounts are languishing pretty far behind so I’m just focusing on what I have and maxing that out first before I touch anything like this.
You are dangerously underrated
❤️ thank you!
Bro will the spiky ball be available at trader shop just like the giant gauntlet?
Likely yes
hi man, i didn't rly understand why the hp increase would be useless unless u have healing. can u pls explain it in detail im pretty slow. like is the extra hp not added when u spawn the hero but only when u go above its spawn health?
Haha I’m sure you’re not slow ❤️ I misunderstood it at first as well. HP recovery means the green bar goes up on the hero. HP increase means the green bar doesn’t go up at all. Just the black bar allowing for the green bar to potentially become higher than when the hero even started if they are healed up. HP increase does nothing if the hero is not healed to take advantage of it.
I don't know that it's 100% useless without healing, he basically can take a few more hits from the start of the attack, 3000 hp worth is a good amount, although it's much less impactful than other stat increases
@@CommanderConeHead but it’s not hp recovery. It’s hp increase. Big difference.
3000 hp is like living probably 5ish seconds longer into the attack. 98% useless 😂
@@ClashTipsPod, Hitpoints increase means Additional hit points. This is applicable from the outset (checked this on Clashipeadia). So it should not only be activated by a heal spell. So the spiky ball will make the King both stronger (hitpoints) and more powerful (DPS). In fact, this should make the spiky ball ideal for smash attacks as that ball can weaken high hit point buildings. Then whether paired with Rage Vial or Gauntlet, the King can then take out a large portion of the base and defences. I do wonder also if the Angry Jelly would make the Spiky Ball also only target defences. Probably not, but worth checking out.
Just found your podcast an as a player that is a th12 thats recently back after years, i just want to thank you for all the info. Ive been overwhelmed. So keep up the good work
Have fun with it! I remember when I came back it was quite overwhelming.
What does hp increase mean? Is it like, he is gonna spawn right off the bat with +3k hp with the spikey ball?
HP increase gives him more room to be healed. It doesn’t increase the green bar but it allows the green bar above his head to be higher.
Earthquake spell, overgrowth and you’ve got something dangerous with pathing that spiky ball
Ahh this is true! It will be interesting to see the interaction between the og spell and the spiky ball!
Use angry jelly with king so the ball hits only defences?
@@jacobfernandez6055 thought about this too but didn’t find a vid of it on CZcams
@@jacobfernandez6055 THIS IS GENIUS!!! I never freaking thought this could work!! Holy cow this is a mega breakthrough if it actually does this. This is almost a whole video topic on its own! Haha
@@jacobfernandez6055that would be cool
Bro this ability saved my root rider attacks. I pair this with the fireball and it Obliterates any base its so good for air attacks because it gives him range
Very nice! 🙂
Have you tested your claim about hp increase? The animation for the spiky ball shows the green bar as full, regardless of level. There are a few different ideas here: hp recovery is active and it fills up the portion of hp that has been lost. A max hp increase would increase the size of the bar without necessarily filling it. An hp increase would increase the size of the bar and fill it initially. You are saying it is a max hp increase, but how do you know this?
Because of the “hp increase” vs “hp recovery on the other pieces of equipment and how they work.
@@ClashTipsPod There are other pieces of equipment that give hp increase. They increase the max hp, and the hero starts with a full health bar. From what I’m seeing with spiky ball, it’s the same. I think you have this wrong.
@@duffypratt If HP increase is a passive ability then yes it you’re right. I was assuming it’s an active ability meaning it’s added whenever the ability is pressed. If it’s there upon hero deployment then yes I’m incorrect.
Can you throw a few earthquake spells and bring the hp down and then throw the spiky ball and clean up. That might work
Yep! It’d be a bit tricky to perform so it might be base dependent to get it to work well.
Spiky ball isn't worth using in place of rage vial because of pathing, it can funnel the king away from the core in some cases when I was testing it
From the opposite perspective, pathing will also be a reason to use it for some players. I can see Klaus now on his queen walk and whenever it looks like his queen is gonna go the wrong way he throws down his king with the spiky ball and knocks out 8 buildings which he had planned all along 😂
@@ClashTipsPod True, but I'm mostly worried about what happens when the king is in the core and aboutta smash but then paths away cuz of ball doing too much dmg
@@davidlamas9236 yeah I think for any attack that paths the king into the core, the spiky ball will be a bad idea.
Walls are going to be more influential on the pathing at that point. Plus, the core is generally made of buildings that are not one shot.
If you pair spiky ball with the angry jelly fish does it hit only defenses ?
No
We checked and unfortunately it does not 😭
Nice video brother , funny af😂😂....When fireball was released, i didn't buy it as i found it weird for warden having damage ability...but this piece seems good as i usually send my king around the base for funneling, but will it better than the gauntlet's ~50% damge reduction.....idk....wat about gauntlet + spiky ball?
Up to you of course! If you find that working for you then definitely use it. At this point though too using whatever you have most leveled up is legit as well.
I do gauntlet and Spiky ball. I am back after several years away, but I use to be a 6200-6300 legend league. I guess no one told me the metas, so I tried to figure it out. I like spiky ball for a few reasons. First, it gives the king range. Like, if you save Spiky Ball to the end, it will hit all its targets, no matter how far. I have used it to clean up the map, and it is funny to see the ball fly across the map. More often, I use it to weaken/clear the core. It can take out some key defenses on its own, like air defense or blowers. I have played with it to reach deep in the base to do that, and it is kinda awesome for that alone. That really isn't what I enjoy (air attacks), so I focus on traditional ground attacks that I enjoyed in my heyday. Even though it only weakens some defenses, it weakens them greatly. Inferno towers, in particular, rely on a duration of surviving to be effective, and they can be severely diminished before troops are in range. This means that single or multi won't have the same time to kill key offensive units.
What I don't like about his analysis is that he only presents Rage+Gauntlet in a perfect scenario. If the king gets to the core with little damage, do you know what is useless? Adding a chunk of HP. How many of us have looked at our king and have known we need the damage, but we know the healing will be wasted. Second, that value is relying on the king being damaged, but it doesn't provide value for preventing damage. The splash damage is also mitigated by spacing. Again, I am not max, so I can only talk about my lower bases, but plenty of people copy+pasta spaced home bases that are designed to reduce the ability to rage bomb the middle.
In the end, the ability to dictate a massive amount of damage to the center of the base in advance of my troops arriving we the key to me choosing Spiky Ball. I wanted to face a reduced and damaged core before my troops got there. I wanted to provide an element of range to a troop that otherwise lacked it. I am probably a year from playing max TH 16, so people can take that with a grain of salt. I just find the content on it unimaginative.
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 definitely use whatever works best for you 🙂
@@macgyvervanschwartzenstall4662 ball along with?
@@akshrags-mindmaze3407 I use gauntlet. It was kinda weird dropping the rage. But, movement speed is less than a ball that can do 30k damage across the map in a second. I also like the AOE portion of gauntlet. I value range with the King and the ability to project out. I think rage and gauntlet are great, but I try to plan on which has more use when things aren't perfect. In an ideal match, King is in the core with unfettered access to the buildings around him. In reality, traps and walls stop that. So, give me something that can counter those frustrating parts of the defense in regards to the king
What is much better Giant Gauntlet or spiky ball?
Depends on the attack 🙂
Consider using both giant and ball, you get the best of both worlds, only downside is the king is left running srounr
Haha that would be funny to watch. This could be an OP combo! I’m excited to see what happens 🙂
@@ClashTipsPod only problem is I’ve invested so much into giant gauntlet rage that it’s gonna put me behind to try anything else
@@nebology yeah at this point I would just use whatever you have upgraded most. All the pieces are very well balanced and only offer slight advantages in certain situations.
in my opinion this spiky ball is overpower for take down clan castle with one straight shoot but need good aim and stratergy also :)
That would be OP if it could work :-)
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Waited for so long
Still waiting for the Rocket Spear 😂
@@ClashTipsPod me too
I was saving for the rocket spear but at the moment I will just invest in Spiky ball and Frozen arrow. I took it to level 19 and togheter with Vampstache seems pretty good but still not enough since to replace the Gauntlet+vampstache combo I need all the stats and dps I can squeeze from the Spiky balls. Great potentials but time will tell.
Yep I’ll probably wait to use it until it’s level 27
How do you think at TH 8, 9, 10, 11 ,12, .....
I’ve always said that the Vampstache was perfect for lower ths. This combo will only make it even better :-)
King with Giant Gauntlet and vampstach is like immortal, it’s constantly under healing
I love it 🙂
it will work fine with the giant gauntlet
I’ve had several people suggest pairing with the gauntlet so this may be optimal. Excited to see what actually gets used overall 🙂
spike ball or queen skin.. please tell me
lol I can’t! Only you can decide which is more important to you ❤️
how about giant gauntlet + spiky +healer ( king walk)
Maybe 🙂 It will be interesting to see what develops in the meta
I think it will suck like fireball which I stopped upgrading at level 17
I think it will have its uses but just not as much in the current meta.
Royal champion has this same type of spiky ball😅
Haha kind of. It’s just not quite as spiky 😉
@@ClashTipsPod yeah
Vampstache with gauntlet works for me
Ultimate healing!
I will go with giant gialnt since i need ores. So i will buy ores and upgrade my aq. I don't know if I will regret it in the future, but I will take the risk and ofcource im will not buy the siken 🙂😶✅
I’m working on my fireball atm and I’ll have to decide what to work on next. Since I think the Vampstache/Spiky Ball combo would be best and that’s two piece I’d have to max out I may actually do something else in their place. I’ll see how I feel in a few weeks lol
Use the gauntlet with spikey ball
You think? I’m thinking that the gauntlet will be much tougher to justify without the rage vial adding to its splash damage for 10 seconds…
I don’t think you can use 2 epics at once
@@owens7945you can just like in the haaland challenge
@@owens7945 You can. I do.
Pet Jelly fish plus spiky ball is awesome
I’m working on an angry jelly video now and putting it on the king can be OP!
Isnt hit point increase at first? No need to be healed
Yep I am mistaken in this and corrected in the notes and my newest video.
@@ClashTipsPod thankyou
i didn't even get the fire and spiky ball, better getting ores
If you have the gems I would still look at purchasing them whenever they come into the shop. They won’t be massive game changers but they are useful in some situations.
Can i used two epic equipment?
Yes if you’d like 🙂 I’m seeing some suggest that the giant gauntlet and spiky ball might actually be a really OP combination.
I’m buying stary ore. To hell with soccer silliness.
lol
Its Football Not sOcCeR
@@yangpain 😂 I love it! The majority of the world does call it football so you are 100% correct 🙂
I am using it with the giant gaunlet and believe me its OP! I will now keep the giant guanlet + spiky ball combo on the king! 💪
Sounds great!
They need to nerf the giant gauntlet it’s annoying that the best equipment has to be bought with gems
I have mixed feelings about it for sure
during the event it was free, i think it´s the right way to make it only purchasable with gems. either get it in the event for free or pay for it. donˋt see the reason behind giving everyone epic equipment for free. gotta make some sacrifices to get epic equipment. thats my opinion
@@rqz519 I’m not saying give it for free and not everyone was playing during that event I’m saying it needs to be a way for ftp players to get it I’m not ftp by any means but I’m not gonna spend 1500 gems on that just to have to go off and get all the ores to upgrade it
what exactly are you btching abt when u wouldn’t grind the ores for it anyway
@@kiyotakaayanokoji2876 what exactly are you talking about your comment makes no sense
Fireball plus spiky ball thats dangerous😉
Yeah there are some powerfully combos out there. I’m eager to get mine upgraded.
Gonna take me 15 years to max it, so this is moot.
😂 truth
This maxed out takes out 9 targets…. Mixed with gauntlet,or earthquake, this is too OP honestly. Between this and the 3 other hero’s, you can literally 50% a base with just their abilities… and them taking little to no damage!! This is far from trash
It is OP in some situations. I still think the gauntlet/rage vial is better in smash situations.
@@ClashTipsPod if you can get the king to go up the middle with ball/earthquake it’s insane when maxed. Prob is my king no matter what I do (I’m at TH10) alwayyyyys goes around the outside of the entire base. Idk if I need to wait to send him out until more walls are broken, but it’s annoying because my abilities get wasted on all out of wall buildings constantly.
@@damien1869 lol I hear you as my king has a mind of his own as well sometimes 😂
Spiky ball : lv27 max
Ore resources : No! Thank you
😂 I love it! I too will be grabbing the spiky ball but it will be awhile before I’m able to get it to max.
What about Giant Gauntlet + My Spiky Balls💀
I’ve heard other players saying this is a good combo. I’ll have to see it and/or test it out to let you know what I think. That won’t be awhile though since my spiky ball won’t be max for several months.
@@ClashTipsPod Okay then, looking forward for your reply
Iam going to buy glowy ores bro, iam skipping this ball
You can always get it later for gems so not a bad decision. 👍🏼
1k Permanent damage per hit is too valuable imo
3,250 permanent damage per hit. That is a lot I agree.
Oh! , it's a mustache not hair wig😅
😂 That first video where they introduced the Vampstache was confusing because the dude were that yellow thing on his head 🙂
Like when it max you dont know wat you walking
It could prove to be extremely op when max. I agree
Max wall not meta against the root riders😂
lol max walls crumble. Might as well have level 1 walls.
@@ClashTipsPod 😂 all those year efforts made it max cost vs what we got root riders
worth for paid to play players that max out the spiky less than 30 seconds 😮💨
lol not me my friend. Not me haha
For F2P players..maturity is when you realise common equipment is worth upgrading rather than epic bcz we will lack ores .
This is an excellent point and one that many should read. Maxing out the Vampstache and the rage vial for example is just fine and may be the best option for F2P tbh.
@@ClashTipsPod Definately I don't know why F2P always run behind Epic because most of the players are F2P and they are Th 12 and Th 13 according to COC official data.So its always better to go for Earthquake Boots,Rage Vial and Vampstache for king
Queen- Invisibility and Healer Pupper
Warden-Eternal Tome,Rage Gem and Healing Tome
Royal Champion-Hog Puppet and Any
After u get them done go for epic maturity is when F2P realise that they will take years to max the common first.
Ita not impossible to max epic equipment every month they give option to earn ores
Rage vial for king
Invisible for queen
Tome for warden
And rc... I dunno who was worth for to upgrade
@@MDKaif-pk1wu excellent advice 🙂
Maxed gauntlet with maxed spikey ball is best combo for king. Highest dps. Many times the speed effect of rage vial is made useless by poison spell and TH poison. For most used attacks rr , valks, siege with root spell, king is in core at end. Ball destroys everything and gauntlet takes out TH and remaining. No one uses any other attack
Maybe…the one thing I didn’t point out was the additional dps so this could be the case for sure.
So it’s not worth it
I think it’s worth it to grab but not upgrade atm if you are th16. If you are lower than th16 and not using root riders then I would actually say this is better than any current king equipment. So just depends on where you are in the game.
It doesn't explain a thing
Sorry I couldn’t help 🙂
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X, Y, Z
Level 1 spiball Yes
Max level spiky ball no
lol. Mine will be level 1 for awhile as I need to upgrade other stuff first.
I just buy book of heroes
That works too 🙂
Coc is a trusted game now a big mistake game 😂😂😂😂
lol I think Supercell is doing a pretty good job trying to balance everything. Hopefully they keep listening to the player base 🙂
Trash x100
lol it’s definitely a solid piece. Just not super great in this current meta imo
CLASH OF CLANS IS TRASH. WTF ARE THEY UPTO?
lol I don’t think clash is trash. They did rush equipment a bit too quickly and they have needed to nerf root riders for awhile but overall I’m pretty happy with the game.
I personally love vamp. Keeps my king alive and the attack speed boost can def tank at the end and most of the time get back to full health. I think rage vial is decent but once ability is done it does nothing
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Gauntlet+ spiky ball and 5 healers.......
King walk!
Is trash like fireball
lol it’s just situation dependent. The fireball is amazing in some situations.
if u throw in the garbage it will be trash if u throw to townhall 1 star for free
@@ClashTipsPod lol even in tournament fireball is rarely use, proved is a trash epic equipment
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