When Women Ruled the Ottoman Empire | Sultanate of Women (1533-1683)

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  • Can you imagine a time when women had such power that foreign ambassadors would have to see them before the Sultans? Perhaps one of the most interesting chapters of Ottoman history is commonly referred to as the Sultanate of Women. A period that extended for roughly 150 years at the height of the Ottoman Empire’s reach, whereby female members of the Imperial household held a tremendous amount of influence over social and political affairs.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:49 Background Info
    2:12 Hurrem Sultan
    7:41 Kosem Sultan
    9:51 Turhan Sultan

Komentáře • 391

  • @HikmaHistory
    @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +96

    What other epic women from the Islamic world's history would you like to see covered?
    Early Modern History Playlist: czcams.com/play/PLiPhmAD3I2JwdVOt4lI39d3XENLktUgP5.html

    • @sss.hhh.457
      @sss.hhh.457 Před 3 lety

      Ассалам алейкум пожалуйста переводите на русский язык чтобы мы тоже знали что за история пожалуйста🙏

    • @maxtyson9035
      @maxtyson9035 Před 3 lety +12

      About Razia of Delhi sultanate

    • @Izwat
      @Izwat Před 3 lety +2

      NO more of kosem plz.

    • @chupameng6482
      @chupameng6482 Před 3 lety +8

      Razia sultan of delhi sultanate

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +4

      @@chupameng6482 That's a great idea!

  • @jocelynmandyuy3632
    @jocelynmandyuy3632 Před 3 lety +96

    The Ottoman women truly wielded power. It all started with Hurrem. I am amazed with their history.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +2

      Yup, more in-depth look at the prominent figures from this period coming soon!

    • @BerkUral
      @BerkUral Před 3 lety +3

      Nomadic turkic tribes has matricenric governors not like patriarcial arabic or Western states and they lasted this till Sunni culture founded as states religion

    • @asiminapateraki1680
      @asiminapateraki1680 Před rokem +3

      Hurrem didn't start anything! Gulbahar Hatun was the first convert Christian harem concubine who got Islamised and got her freedom the grandmother of Suleiman and she was Greek and Hafsa Ayse Sultan was first Valide Haseki Sultan! Hurrem was special only in series in real history she's not important at all in fact her sister in law Hatice, her daughter Mihrimah and her daughter in Nurbanu were far more beautiful and influential SULTAN WOMEN than any Hurrem was! Real Hatice had a beautiful and long life too she never married Ibrahim Pasha and never commited any suicide wake up !!!

  • @HistoryandHeadlines
    @HistoryandHeadlines Před 4 lety +284

    It is fascinating how women could be the power behind the throne.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 4 lety +23

      Definitely, and for such a long period of time as well!

    • @HistoryandHeadlines
      @HistoryandHeadlines Před 4 lety +6

      @@HikmaHistory Do you have a favorite woman from this episode?

    • @wissamkhaled5106
      @wissamkhaled5106 Před 4 lety +8

      @@HistoryandHeadlines I known that youre not asking me but my favourite is mihrimah but really like the character of hurrem and the power of kosem

    • @forickgrimaldus8301
      @forickgrimaldus8301 Před 3 lety +4

      Interesting how Monarchs parallel each other as there are times in Europe too where the Woman would have the power directly or otherwise.

    • @HistoryandHeadlines
      @HistoryandHeadlines Před 3 lety +4

      @@forickgrimaldus8301 What is your favorite example from European history?

  • @alisahinnnn
    @alisahinnnn Před 3 lety +144

    Kosem didn’t outsmarted actually she was betrayed by one of her slaves she told Kosems takeover plan to Turhan and Kosem was exposed and her plan failed. And caused her death. Kosems death caused starvation of 20 thousand civilians. She was helping the people. And how she managed the hold the state and power at that anarchy era is outstanding.

    • @flowermagnolia4551
      @flowermagnolia4551 Před 3 lety +8

      I agree but Kosem wanted to kill her grandson so she could keep her role of regent. She was a great powerful woman but also cold hearted.

    • @martabeatriz6896
      @martabeatriz6896 Před 3 lety +22

      @@flowermagnolia4551 to be cold hearted is what it takes to keep an empire standing.

    • @tiffanyl4829
      @tiffanyl4829 Před rokem +1

      @@martabeatriz6896 she was also a hypocrite because that's what Murat did

    • @Jenvlogs404
      @Jenvlogs404 Před rokem

      All of it inhumane and immune to it

  • @eurech
    @eurech Před 2 lety +78

    Hurrem walked so Kosem could run. She laid the foundations and started the Sultanate of Women.

    • @asiminapateraki1680
      @asiminapateraki1680 Před rokem +7

      Hurrem was nobody!!! Kosem Sultana had her freedom ,she had to face incompatible enemies, 2 previous Sultanas before her, Kosem was wealthiest Sultana, Kosem had her freedom and was legal wife,Ahmed I Sultan builded Blue Mosque for Kosem's favour, Kosem vanished all women in Ahmed's eyes without killing any concubine or baby ,Mahfiruze's kids loved Kosem more than their mother unlike Hurrem who was mistreating Mustafa, Kosem has her husband's name and her name written in Mecca and Medina cause of her charities, Kosem increased Ottoman Empire's wealth ,Kosem builted schools, hospitals and libraries (not Nurbanu) and looked after orphan kids and gave food to poor people! Kosem was a great icon herself plus Kosem was beautiful and intelligent and not pretty and vicious like Hurrem! Suleiman never asked Hurrems opinion about army and politics CAUSE HE KNEW SHE WASN'T CAPABLE FOR SUCH THINGS! Kosem had all trust ,respect and love from her husband Ahmed I Sultan! Read a little bit better who you compare !!!

    • @mediocremaiden8883
      @mediocremaiden8883 Před rokem

      And then so Kosem could end up stabbed and hacked to death by Turhan Sultana

    • @kayodewa
      @kayodewa Před rokem

      @@asiminapateraki1680 Thanks for telling us that you're an absolute nobody, when you can publicly make such deluded assertions publicly about one of the greatest women who has ever lived

    • @asiminapateraki1680
      @asiminapateraki1680 Před rokem +2

      @@kayodewa Humanity can live without her! Go search other Exambles of true great women to see what greatest really means! Back off she wasn't some Cleopatra! Even inside Sultanate she was the weakest of all Sultanas!

    • @abdullahassaffah
      @abdullahassaffah Před měsícem

      ​@@asiminapateraki1680 cleopatra the incest was a freak of nature who got put in her lowly place by octavian

  • @wissamkhaled5106
    @wissamkhaled5106 Před 4 lety +189

    I watched the magnificent century in which talks about those women which I really recommend and I am now obsessed with ottoman history .and by he way you really did a great job with this video👍👍

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 4 lety +4

      Thanks! I have to start watching that

    • @wissamkhaled5106
      @wissamkhaled5106 Před 4 lety +3

      @@HikmaHistory yeah I really recommend it its a turkish series with 6 seasons which talks about that era of ottoman history its a drama action and hystorical show with great acting and story

    • @ArdaCiftci1
      @ArdaCiftci1 Před 4 lety +6

      Yeah I love magnificent century aswell, finished both of the shows. I think you shoulf watch Magnificent Century: Kosem, though, Hikma, as the first show progresses extremely slowly. But yes, definitely watch it and let us know what you think. The women in the show are also very cool ngl, my favourite is Safiye Sultan, she is too epic, she is referred to as the Golden Queen as she was extremely rich, some say she was more powerful than any female sultans to exist

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +2

      @@Itstolinho Already do, amazing show!

    • @jeanfish7
      @jeanfish7 Před 3 lety +1

      @@HikmaHistory it's addictive:)

  • @norijanepaco6413
    @norijanepaco6413 Před 3 lety +26

    I am here because of Magnifecient Century. Hurrem and Kosem are my favorite characters. Fan from 🇵🇭

  • @realshweta8130
    @realshweta8130 Před 3 lety +45

    I came here after watching series of Mera Sultan and I'm amazed to see this video, Hurrem was and will be a fable, fairy tale, may be a painful one but her life story will be remembered always.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +3

      Definitely an extraordinary figure, video on her coming in the future!

  • @dn6457
    @dn6457 Před 3 lety +81

    Kösem is such a beautiful name. I really recommend everyone to go watch the magnificent century, it’s truly one of the most interesting, intense, jaw dropping and beautiful shows you’ll ever see in your life. Be careful though, after watching it, you will be even more curious about the Ottomans.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +5

      I've been meaning to get into it for a while now!

    • @lindalenggu
      @lindalenggu Před 3 lety +6

      Yes I agree - I have only recently finished watching it and would have to say it is definitely my favourite from both Magnificent Century series as well as Ertugral and the current Osman series. Truly beautiful. Several episodes had me in tears and most episodes had me pausing the videos in order to 'fact check' - I'm now even more obsessed with Ottoman History! I am really enjoying the current pre-Ottoman series about the last Sultans of the Selcuk Empire - Uyanış: Büyük Selçuklu - but none as touched me the way Kosem did,

    • @zurina888awawahab2
      @zurina888awawahab2 Před 3 lety +6

      I just got hooked with Magnificent Century on how much politics involved in the Harem itself...
      One thing that I am confused abt is that the Royals were Muslims... didvthey marry each concubines b4 the Sultan sleeps with them..
      Islam prohibits couples to sleep together outside marriage..
      Why the marriage of Hurrem only carried out after they have been together?

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +2

      @@zurina888awawahab2 That is a great question! I think (I'm not sure tho) the concubines were technically slaves and therefore the property of the Sultan; so maybe the fornication rule did not apply...

    • @myrahnaif3163
      @myrahnaif3163 Před 2 lety

      It made me crazy 😂

  • @aiclemente3901
    @aiclemente3901 Před 2 lety +15

    ive never been interested about other nation's history not until this one. i used to imagine about the past and it is so amazing to know this one.

  • @cookiessprite
    @cookiessprite Před 3 lety +41

    From slaves to political advisers and state politicians... really fascinating period of time. I'd kill for a historically accurate TV show about them, Magnificent Century was fun but it mainly showed melodramatic harem scheming (I'm sure there was a lot of that too) and not really much of the wider politics and impact these women had.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +3

      Yh I agree. But I would say that the Harem was a key ground for the unfolding of Ottoman politics.

    • @syedriyan7009
      @syedriyan7009 Před 3 lety +7

      yeah, and unfortunately the show was filled with countless misconceptions and historical inaccuracies like valide hafsa sultan being a crimean princess when she was of slave origins, mahidevran being a haseki sultan when the title was created for hurrem, hurrem & rustem plotting to kill Mustafa which was the biggest tale of all time and not true if one bother stop read about his execution, selim being such a bad person when he was an extremely nice person and definitely one of the nicer sultans, mihrimah & rustem being unhappy in their marriage when there’s no evidence to prove this, hatice’s marriage to ibrahim even though Ibrahim was married to muhsine, hurrem being so insufferable and chaotic when she was known to be a laughing & cheerful person, suleyman taking concubines to bed even after hurrem even though he had become monogamous to her by mihrimah’s birth, cihangir being extremely close to mustafa when there is no evidence to prove this, hatice & fatma & possibly beyhan being younger than suleyman when they were all older than him, sahihuban being a daughter of valide hafsa, kosem being so influential as haseki, halime being so evil when all she wanted to do was protect her son’s life, safiye being so evil even though she was stripped of power after ahmet’s enthronement, kosem & ahmet’s children, murat’s love interest farya bethlen when gabriel bethlen didn’t even have any kids, atike marrying silahtar, kosem & kemankes being in love w/ each other even though they were actually rivals who worked together for the sake of the empire [I’ll forgive this one cause they were so cute and i’d watch them in love w/ each other in a historically accurate version of mc as well lol] and soooo many more historical inaccuracies i could on for days 😂 i love the actors and the show is very addictive despite everything but a historically accurate version of mc, preferably with the same actors, would be amazing.

  • @HikmaHistory
    @HikmaHistory  Před 4 lety +3

    Full Project HerStory Playlist:
    czcams.com/play/PLHtE7NbaKReeL22jTQB6c0WGw8KfzJvMc.html

    • @saladcaesar7716
      @saladcaesar7716 Před 4 lety

      Hikma History hello. Where can I find your sources please ?

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 4 lety

      @@saladcaesar7716 I'll have an Amazon page shortly where I'll link the books I use that you can buy yourself!

  • @benjaminprietop
    @benjaminprietop Před 4 lety +99

    In my country: Chile, there was a time when Turkish TV shows were very popular for some reason and one of those shows was about Suleiman, it was very interesting

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 4 lety +15

      I heard about this, how strange!

    • @saadiyakhan8956
      @saadiyakhan8956 Před 4 lety +5

      @@HikmaHistory in India as well Turkish shows as well as Pakistani shows were brodcasted widely but with recent heated dialogues with Pakistan and turkey all of them were removed.....

    • @Euzuner41
      @Euzuner41 Před 3 lety +4

      @@HikmaHistory it was populeer nearly everycountry

    • @eshal5700
      @eshal5700 Před 3 lety +2

      @Cihat Sevinçli It was about kashmir. And turkish government supported pakistan in that matter.
      (Magnificent century was very popular in pakistan too)

    • @JustSomeSlavicBoy
      @JustSomeSlavicBoy Před 3 lety +1

      Magnificent century.

  • @amandajones6481
    @amandajones6481 Před 2 lety +11

    This is so interesting. I just watched a video on the Absolute History channel about the Sulaimen's great love for the concubine who became his wife. He didn't have to marry her. By the time the Sultan married her she had already given birth to 2 sons. But he loved her and the poetry he wrote in his Sultana's honour was incredibly beautiful. In order to marry her Sulaimen first had to free her from slavery, and he did this happily. It was and remains, an extraordinary love story.

  • @joshrijvers
    @joshrijvers Před 4 lety +3

    Great video! Very interesting subject

  • @sabaakhlaque3490
    @sabaakhlaque3490 Před 3 lety +4

    Very informative content

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Před 4 lety +5

    This was quite the informative video. I only knew bits n piece's of this historical time period. Nice job whoever made this video a reality.

  • @rajuanaafroje5880
    @rajuanaafroje5880 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice information

  • @kausamsalam8543
    @kausamsalam8543 Před rokem

    Thanks for this information.:))

  • @Native2015
    @Native2015 Před 3 lety +19

    You’re videos are so informative and well put together thank you for making me smile finally someone can do a proper video on these intriguing women. Can you please do a video on Mirhimah Sultan the Ottoman Princess daughter of Hurrem Sultan.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +4

      Thank you! Hopefully in the future, yes.

  • @alisahinnnn
    @alisahinnnn Před 3 lety +18

    Safiye was not in harem her grandsons reigns and she had no influence on them. Despite the common information Kosem wasn’t the one who exiled Safiye to old palace. She was directly exiled by Ahmed I. mother Handan she spent only 3 months at topkapi palace in Ahmed I. Reign then she and her staff left the palace.

  • @saladcaesar7716
    @saladcaesar7716 Před 4 lety +10

    Hikma History hello. Where can I find your sources please ?

  • @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory

    Very well researched, Mr. Hikma History! I find it interesting that the origins of many of these women were so uncertain. Is this due to chroniclers not bothering to record it, and these are inferences from later historians, or are the sources contradictory?

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 4 lety +2

      Thank you! A little bit of both. Most of these consorts are described as being various ethnicities depending upon the source.

    • @margarettaft7362
      @margarettaft7362 Před 3 lety +1

      It’s due to the fact that so many were European slaves and had no history till they arrived in Turkey.

    • @syedriyan7009
      @syedriyan7009 Před 3 lety

      and it’s also because most, if not all, of these women were captured at very young ages, educated & trained to be beddable concubines in the harem from when they menstruated. so many of these women could also not remember where they come from or their families etc.

  • @Squirrel_Xi
    @Squirrel_Xi Před 4 lety +1

    Good Video

  • @murodillafatkhullaev9782
    @murodillafatkhullaev9782 Před 4 lety +102

    Well, Kosem never ordered her son’s execution. It is true that she agreed to remove her son, Ibrahim, from the throne only by one condition. Whatever happens, Ibrahim must stay alive. However, some members of the court saw Ibrahim a threat to the empire so they executed him by using the chance of Kosem’s absence from the palace. Also, among the all women of “Sultanate of Women” Kosem is the one who did the most charity works. Moreover, she was the MOST POWERFUL WOMAN in the history of Ottoman Empire!!!

    • @shamimajahan7204
      @shamimajahan7204 Před 4 lety +7

      Ibrahim was executed by the permission and presence of kösem sultan,and it's true as all evidences are clear now. Ibrahim made worse mistakes which is not forgiveable so he had to die.if kösem sultan refused it she would have face the same consequences so she had to agree with them but she tried heart and soul to save her last one and only son,but after confirmation that she won't be able to save him,but it might cause trouble to her she agreed for the execution

    • @murodillafatkhullaev9782
      @murodillafatkhullaev9782 Před 4 lety +15

      Shamima Jahan this is what Western historians think, but Turkish historians disagree to that. Remember, Ibrahim exiled her and she was not at the palace. Westerners wanna bull s**t as much as they want all the time but I think we MUST trust to the Turkish professors who spent their entire life learning Ottoman History.

    • @dianad1069
      @dianad1069 Před 3 lety +10

      Hurrem sultan is the most powerful
      She initiated the sultanate of women

    • @hamzaabbass1300
      @hamzaabbass1300 Před 3 lety +6

      @@dianad1069 she also played a role in killing the rightfull owner of the ottoman throne şehzade Mustafa

    • @dianad1069
      @dianad1069 Před 3 lety +2

      @@hamzaabbass1300 you would the same if you were in her place... and 4 of your sons would be in danger
      For ur children as a parent is to protect them in the 1st place

  • @ArdaCiftci1
    @ArdaCiftci1 Před 4 lety +69

    Hikma I just realised, Hurrem, Hafsa and Mihrimah all died at 56. What a co incidence

    • @mathieuleader8601
      @mathieuleader8601 Před 4 lety +4

      strange but true

    • @kmmmsyr9883
      @kmmmsyr9883 Před 3 lety +6

      Yes, but there is also a fact to consider: since almost all of them were born as peasants, we're not sure when they were born. Birth dates and some times even places are not certain.

    • @kmmmsyr9883
      @kmmmsyr9883 Před 3 lety +7

      As far as I know, the only valide sultan who wasn't born as a peasant was Hafsa, Suleiman's mother and Selim I's wife. She was the daughter of the Crimean Khan.

    • @Native2015
      @Native2015 Před 3 lety +9

      @@kmmmsyr9883 as far as am concerned Mirhimah Sultan wasn’t born a peasant because she was the Sultans first and favourite daughter. She had great power and influenced much into the ottoman era.

    • @kmmmsyr9883
      @kmmmsyr9883 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Native2015 She wasn't a valide sultan. "Valide" means mother in Turkish, he was a daughter of Suleiman and sister of Selim II, as you said.

  • @ellastack1093
    @ellastack1093 Před 8 měsíci

    I love the hadith at 2:59. Thank you for an another great video, I'm always keen to learn more about women in history :^)

  • @clicksnap2148
    @clicksnap2148 Před 3 lety +10

    After watching Magnificent Century i found myself searching more on Ottoman history❤👌 it's so fascinating thanks to Hurrem Sultana for her courage and wit.

  • @shantaalam6128
    @shantaalam6128 Před 3 lety +25

    Kosem sultan ❤👑❤

  • @shamimajahan7204
    @shamimajahan7204 Před 4 lety +43

    Sultans didn't marry,Hurrem was the first to marry a sultan after sultan Bayezid l
    One concubine and one son rule was valid before hurrem sultan,after hurrem sultan Suleiman was devoted to her completely.
    Plz read history completely

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 4 lety +5

      Nope, not true. It's a common misconception.

    • @shamimajahan7204
      @shamimajahan7204 Před 4 lety +2

      @@HikmaHistory what resources you use? I have gone through a lot of documents and books ,those are authentic and original history

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 4 lety +4

      Check out Leslie Pearce - Imperial Harem. But the issue of Sultans prior to Suleiman having wives can be found in general Ottoman history books; I'm sure even Wikipedia might help you with that.

    • @shamimajahan7204
      @shamimajahan7204 Před 4 lety +7

      @@HikmaHistory Wikipedia is a big lie. I also read Leslie Peirce book.
      But those are not misconceptions

    • @syedriyan7009
      @syedriyan7009 Před 3 lety +10

      @@shamimajahan7204 | some sultans would marry before selim i to form political alliances. but the women they married were free born women from other dynasties. however, how suleiman broke tradition was that he freed a concubine, a slave and married her.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam Před 3 lety +4

    Interesting topic

  • @alisahinnnn
    @alisahinnnn Před 3 lety +7

    And this pic is not Kosem guys when you search it pops up but this is actually a ottoman woman who captured by venetian pirates. And she lied that she’s the consort of his majesty’s and her son is the shehzade which is impossible since they not allowed to sea travel. But venetians choose to believe that and took them as hostage. This thing also shown at the series but not %100 accurate. In series they are actually the consort and shehzade.

    • @shirleyvargas9254
      @shirleyvargas9254 Před 3 lety

      What are talking that is not picture of kosem. I think that picture one of slave in ottoman yes they say kosem is so beautiful.

  • @nature-20246
    @nature-20246 Před 3 lety +15

    Grate information.... but i would like to know in depth about ottoman empire... am from india...
    after watching magnificent century... i am in love with the history of ottomans

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you! I'm bringing out an in depth documentary looking at the entire history of the Ottoman Empire soon!

  • @fatherlouiswilliamssugaada5023

    Hi Hikma History, If you don't mind could please also cover and share to the viewers about "The Era of Queens" (c.1641-1699) in Kingdom of Aceh (1496-1903, now Indonesia)? These queens are literally sitting on the throne, despite the quite orthodox of hadith exegesis at that time. Thank you :)
    Ps: Aceh was the farthest eastern ally of Ottoman at that time

  • @nature-20246
    @nature-20246 Před 3 lety +12

    can you pls do a vedio on hurrem sultan,, mihirima sultan

  • @historiamolim5675
    @historiamolim5675 Před 3 lety +9

    Historian here. Do you have proof and sources that Selim actually married Nurbanu, and that Murat married Safiye? Because there is no proof I could find of this. True early Ottoman Sultan's did marry. And they married Princesses or daughters of important Statesmen. But for awhile they were only consorting with slaves. Sultan Suleiman was the first to marry his slave (concubines were slaves). It should be noted that the reason why consorts were traditionally having one son for the most part (except for some exceptions) was because of fratricide. The mother was sent away with her son to Sanjaks and oversaw his harem. A mother was not supposed to choose to endorse one son and sacrifice another (or others). Her one job was to protect him and advise him and endorse him. It became a problem when she had to divide her loyalty between sons. ALSO, this was a way for the Valide Sultan to consolidate her own power and influence.
    Also where is the documented proof that Ahmet I married Kosem too? I have never come across legit historical sources. Nor for Turhan Sultan. If anyone knows any legit respected peer reviewed sources not connected to wikipedia and other online quetionable sources, please comment bellow. I have been trying hard to find them. I can read Russian, Turkish and most other Turkic languages, Serbo-Croatian, and Albanian. Much appreciated.

    • @eurech
      @eurech Před 2 lety

      There is no proof. Nurbanu maybe, but Safiye and Kosem were not married that's for sure.

  • @Kierkergaarder
    @Kierkergaarder Před 3 lety +3

    I knew about Roxana the Hurrem Sultan in connection to Suleiman but not about Kossem Sultan or any of the others (or this term "Sultanate of the Women"). Thank you for this wonderful video. At some point I would love to see a video about the köçek and their cultural context? (just learned about them and I find the subject fascinating)

    • @eurech
      @eurech Před rokem

      @Evelina1995 She was clearly not the most famous one because Hurrem is the most mentioned Sultana in medieval Europe. In fact, she has the most paintings done by foreign people. Kosem was the most powerful, but definitely not the most famous. Even Haydn, the famous compositor, made a musical piece based on Hurrem called 'Roxelana'.
      There was no other Haseki in Ahmed's time and please cite sources that say Ahmed built the mosque for her. You are the same person with a different account spreading lies, be ashamed of yourself.

  • @rezelahmad1824
    @rezelahmad1824 Před 3 lety +56

    HURREM SULTAN👑💍

  • @Artur_M.
    @Artur_M. Před 4 lety +12

    I can never get over the paradox of ordinary common girls eventually becoming some of the most powerful women of their time by first becoming the victims of a brutal slave trade system.
    Hurrem was most likely from the town of Rohatyn, which was then within the Polish Crown and now is in western Ukraine. Calling her 'Ukrainian' is arguably a bit anachronistic, the more appropriate term for the period would be 'Ruthenian'. In fact, she was widely known as Roxelana, a nickname referencing her Ruthenian origin. I remember getting very annoyed when I've heard her being described as "Russian" in a totally professional documentary on Discovery Channel many years ago. The region she was from literary never was part of Russia (unless you call either the Kievan Rus' or USSR "Russia"). Apparently, that's just how the Easter Europe and its complex history is treated.
    Anyway, great video!

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 4 lety +4

      Totally agree with your point that she should be called 'Ruthenian' but I wanted to make it comprehensible for my viewers (I would argue more of them would know about Ukranian/Polish than Ruthenian, no?). The Ottomans were full of paradoxes it seems!

    • @Artur_M.
      @Artur_M. Před 4 lety +2

      @@HikmaHistory I completely understand.
      BTW another fascinating example of a person from roughly the same region, who made an impressive career, after being kidnaped in a Tatar raid and sold into Ottoman slavery, is Wojciech Bobowski or Ali Ufki (also known as Albertus Bobovius or Ali Bey). I think you might find him especially interesting because he was working to lessen the divide between Christian Europe and the Islamic World by spreading knowledge and contributing to the cultural exchange.

  • @kaushikvsmaniyan
    @kaushikvsmaniyan Před rokem +1

    It's those Sultans' weakness in allowing affairs of their heart & flesh to impact affairs of the State that weakened the Sultanate & began it's end. The first major defeats of the Empire occured in this period beginning with the defeat at the Battle of Lepanto & ending with the failure at the 2nd Siege of Vienna in 1683 swiftly followed by the loss of Buda & Pest & most of Hungary

    • @nameredacted1448
      @nameredacted1448 Před rokem

      U southern Indian?

    • @kaushikvsmaniyan
      @kaushikvsmaniyan Před rokem

      @@nameredacted1448 why do you ask?

    • @abdullahassaffah
      @abdullahassaffah Před měsícem

      ​@@nameredacted1448so what if he is we follow quran and sunnah as Muslim not modernist liberals
      Narrated Abu Bakra:
      During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."
      حَدَّثَنَا عُثْمَانُ بْنُ الْهَيْثَمِ، حَدَّثَنَا عَوْفٌ، عَنِ الْحَسَنِ، عَنْ أَبِي بَكْرَةَ، قَالَ لَقَدْ نَفَعَنِي اللَّهُ بِكَلِمَةٍ أَيَّامَ الْجَمَلِ لَمَّا بَلَغَ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم أَنَّ فَارِسًا مَلَّكُوا ابْنَةَ كِسْرَى قَالَ ‏ "‏ لَنْ يُفْلِحَ قَوْمٌ وَلَّوْا أَمْرَهُمُ امْرَأَةً ‏"‏‏.‏
      Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 7099
      In-book reference : Book 92, Hadith 50
      USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 9, Book 88, Hadith 219

  • @ibraheemtalash5094
    @ibraheemtalash5094 Před 2 lety

    Are there other seasons other than kosem and hurram

  • @ruggedindividual708
    @ruggedindividual708 Před 4 lety +18

    Loved the way you incorporated knowledge on Islam! Question - do you think a woman could rule in a Muslim-majority country and shine at the world stage in the 21st century?

    • @vinfacts11
      @vinfacts11 Před 4 lety +10

      Look at Bangladesh

    • @alexandrub8786
      @alexandrub8786 Před 4 lety +8

      Doesn't Bangladesh already do that?

    • @meh0796
      @meh0796 Před 4 lety +6

      Well now Muslim countries have had many Female rulers. In Pakistan, turkey, Bangladesh, etc

    • @nafismubashir2479
      @nafismubashir2479 Před 3 lety +2

      sheikh hasina shines on the world stage

    • @nafismubashir2479
      @nafismubashir2479 Před 3 lety +3

      @@meh0796 Male prime ministers served for 23 years combined in Bangladesh while female prime ministers served for 26 years so Bangladesh is exceptional for comparison Pakistan had the prime ministerships of 68 years and 5 years respectively and turkey had 100 years and 3 years respectively

  • @hakimnazir6998
    @hakimnazir6998 Před 3 lety +3

    I thinks the period Sultanate of Women became to glory and peak when rulled and dominating by Kosem Sultan. Kosem success to hold the power and influenced alone as Valide Sultan and Naib i Saltanat and never share and transffered her political authority to the grand vizier like Turhan. Kosem held and managed the empire with the intellegent, leadership and dignity until she died and incredibly the most powerful and magnificent Sultana in Ottoman history.

    • @gianna4732
      @gianna4732 Před 2 lety +1

      Dude she left a really poor empire ....

  • @mironsamzid3992
    @mironsamzid3992 Před 3 lety +5

    Kosem Sultana👑💖

  • @partlycloudy3519
    @partlycloudy3519 Před 3 lety +8

    Hurrem paved the way she was the OG gangster 💯 She paved the way for Nubanu sayfie kosem Turhan

  • @mroshany1281
    @mroshany1281 Před měsícem +1

    Great❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @sshrestha2245
    @sshrestha2245 Před 2 lety +3

    Recommended by CZcams after Magnificent Century Kosem ❤️ #Beren Saat

  • @akeelssongs8525
    @akeelssongs8525 Před 3 lety

    Can you do a video on the Ottomans reuniting in 2023 plss

  • @xtine6772
    @xtine6772 Před 2 lety +2

    Two powerful women to the ottoman empire hurrem ang kosem magnificent

  • @susiesmith7694
    @susiesmith7694 Před 2 lety +3

    I could listen read and see all of Hurrem I love learning about her.

  • @jibraani10
    @jibraani10 Před rokem +1

    Subhanallah Alhamdulilah wa li ilaha iLilah Allah O Akbar peace and blessings of Allah swt be upon all the prophets and the muslim ummah Ameen yah rabbil aalameen ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @nisha-ve3dj
    @nisha-ve3dj Před 3 lety +1

    perfect examples of the real ruler you need to be worthy it does not matter whether its a girl or a boy.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 Před 4 lety +11

    lots of powerful Mother-in-Laws

  • @etikahan8785
    @etikahan8785 Před 3 lety +17

    Sultanate of Women started from Kosem Sultan and ended upon Kosem Sultan she supported the empire when was to end and was the most powerful above the Sultan after her martyr the empire soon began on the way of decline.

    • @zuhairtaimoor7779
      @zuhairtaimoor7779 Před 3 lety +2

      Hurrem?

    • @draganagavric4944
      @draganagavric4944 Před 3 lety +3

      Bu without Hurem there would not be Kösem or anybody else of the Womens Sultanate

    • @bruhno1545
      @bruhno1545 Před 3 lety

      @@draganagavric4944 why wouldn't it?? Kosem was smart and intelligent and that explains her success and power.

    • @anaddyaa4864
      @anaddyaa4864 Před 3 lety +3

      bruh no it wouldn’t...Kosem manage to get power and other before her (aka Safie or Nurbanu) based on a road oaved by Hurrem. When you break traditions it is very difficult to get power more than your successor will, because it takes time to break the traditions. When the others followed, they each became more and more powerful. Nurbanu owes it to Hurrem, Safie to Hurem and Nurbanu, Kosem to all of them before her. They each picked where last one left and made it better.
      This is why everybody talks about Hurrem. Kosem was amazing, but Hurrem was first, and everybody remembers that. Remember Hurrem’s legacy refers to her period as Haseki only. She never made it to be valide because she died. Imagine how big she would have been as valide.
      Then again, it is much easier to be great from a position of power (Kosem did not get involved in politics at all while being haseki, only after becoming valide), while Hurrem never had absolute power and had to fight enemies at every step because she was vulnerable without a powerful position. Many of the things that Hurrem did less, were due to her big love for her sultan, which stopped her. If she would have been valide for Selim, after Suleyman died, she would have been much ruthless as no reason to stop or protect anyone anymore. Nurbanu owes it big time to her death, or else she would have needed to wait a lot for her reign, or maybe she wouldn’t even have it at all. All these happened centuries before Kosem so of course, if events didn t happen this way, if Hurrem didn’t exist, Kosem, even if very intelligent, wouldn’t have done as much. She would have to start paving her own road like Hurrem did and by the time she would get power she would get old and die, like Hurrem did.

    • @gianna4732
      @gianna4732 Před 2 lety

      Lmaaaaaaao she was not above murad 🤣🤣 and her regency was terrible

  • @temasek65
    @temasek65 Před 3 lety +1

    Abu Huraira reported that a person came to Allah,'s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said : Who among the people is most deserving of a fine treatment from my hand ? He said : Your mother. He again said : Then who (is the next one) ? He said: Again it is your mother (who deserves the best treatment from you). He said: Then who (is the next one) ? He (the Holy Prophet) said : Again, it is your mother. He (again) said: Then who? Thereupon he said: Then it is your father. In the hadith transmitted on the authority of Qutalba, there is no mention of the word "the people".

  • @thatartistfromaisa7031
    @thatartistfromaisa7031 Před 3 lety +8

    From slave to the ruler of one of the greatest emipre of the world

  • @rrrrelax1
    @rrrrelax1 Před 3 lety

    From useful chart

  • @zunaira544
    @zunaira544 Před 3 lety +5

    Hurrem sultan was so much beatiful hurrem sultan was inteaelgent hurrem sultan had 5 kids

    • @prettysurelourd5703
      @prettysurelourd5703 Před 2 lety

      kosem has 8 children as well ang became Queen regent 2times only kosem made it a valide sultana and a Regent at the same time

  • @melanthonyinot627
    @melanthonyinot627 Před 2 lety

    Magnificent Century brought me here..

  • @PaulineMontagna
    @PaulineMontagna Před 11 měsíci

    I’m sorry, but you can’t say that it’s a myth that Hurrem Sultan was the first wife of a Sultan and the first to have more than one son and then offer as evidence what the Sultanas that came AFTER her did.

  • @panatypical
    @panatypical Před rokem +1

    I like seeing this history from the non-european point of view.

  • @omerali4654
    @omerali4654 Před rokem

    Like I don't understand your choice at the beginning of the video of the immodest images of the sultanates!!

  • @damienhudson8028
    @damienhudson8028 Před měsícem

    Interesting and thanks for posting - will need to read more on these women..
    Two of these great woman were sold as slaves from Christian countries? I'll be interested to find put how old they were when that happened...

  • @searchingfortruth4783
    @searchingfortruth4783 Před měsícem

    Why are they not veiled? This is haram or halal?

  • @0eke940
    @0eke940 Před 3 lety +7

    Who is the 2nd powerful sultana? Is it hurrem or safiye?? Cause I know kosem was the strongest out of them

    • @ak7127
      @ak7127 Před 3 lety +4

      Not really, she was maybe as powerful as Hurrem, but she was killed by her enemies while Hurrem always won. Kosem and Hurrem are the most powerful.

  • @abdullahalahnaaf8721
    @abdullahalahnaaf8721 Před 3 lety +2

    the first ottoman was ertagrul and his wife name is halime and ilbige

    • @nasiiJ
      @nasiiJ Před 3 lety +5

      Illbilge hatun was never erturuls wife it was shown only in the show in real life they didn't know each other and born in different ages and also shown in the show that halime sultan died during labor that is not correct and she died at age 70+ it was only shown in the show because the actress left the show

    • @abdullahassaffah
      @abdullahassaffah Před měsícem

      Ertugrul was a governor not sultan or founded his own empire

  • @syke9747
    @syke9747 Před 2 lety

    There was actually a sultanate of women , it was india , it is called the nawab Begum of Bhopal

  • @deepmeanings6110
    @deepmeanings6110 Před 3 lety +3

    What happened after turhan sultan

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +2

      Power of the Valide Sultan went down significantly

    • @junaidullahb8701
      @junaidullahb8701 Před 3 lety +5

      She and her son Transferred the powers to The Viziers to Koprulu Pasha Then The Era Of Viziers came ruling over sultan and they could depose him too you can say a bit parliamentary system came prime minister or vizier became head of govt and sultan was just like a symbolic head of a state

    • @feminazachariya2273
      @feminazachariya2273 Před 3 lety +3

      @@junaidullahb8701 so its like they signed their own death warrant

  • @alisahinnnn
    @alisahinnnn Před 3 lety

    And also one consort one son was a fact actually but they abandoned that and instead they tried having child from just one consort but that didn’t worked for many of the sultans. And sultan being not allowed to marry is not completely wrong too. But he was just not allowed to marry a free and a born Muslim woman. This is absolutely forbidden and Osman II. married a born Muslim women the daughter of the sheikul islam esed efendis daughter Adile. And she shared secret info with his dad caused Osman’s abdication.

  • @hamouchissam156
    @hamouchissam156 Před 3 lety

    Chajarat al dor from the mamluki kingdom Egypt

  • @saladcaesar7716
    @saladcaesar7716 Před 4 lety +1

    Hello

  • @alisahinnnn
    @alisahinnnn Před 3 lety +4

    Harem is not the place for females of the house. And it was not a sex place too. It was same thing as the enderun. Enderun was a school that schools slave boys and make them state-men. And harem was teaching slave girls how to be a lady and most of the girls were couldn’t even seen sultan. Most of the girls are married to a man from enderun, who completed his training and appointed to a position in the empire. And this marriages funded by Valide sultan or any sultan who is in charge of harem. And harems treasurer and her staff decides who’s gonna marry who and marriages happen if Valide sultan approves it. And this is called cariga cikma. When the couple arrives wich city or town they appointed. Female has a job too. Teach the women of the town what she learned at harem. How to be a lady, how to read, how to write. There’s even a woman became chemist in harem. But not all of them were successful. Some of the known Sultanas are not able to write for example. Hurrem was successful at that. But for example Kosems letters are full with mistakes a women who was the key figure of the empire for a 4 decades.

  • @lula383
    @lula383 Před 2 lety

    MAY ALLAH GRANTED THE HIGHEST JANNAH ALL

  • @abdullahalahnaaf8721
    @abdullahalahnaaf8721 Před 3 lety

    and osman has 2 wifes name bala and malhun

  • @Riya-uy8po
    @Riya-uy8po Před 2 lety +2

    kosem great nd pawerful lady of ottoman empire

  • @bosbanon3452
    @bosbanon3452 Před 2 lety +1

    Don't they think it's haram

  • @dianamaciuca2844
    @dianamaciuca2844 Před 4 lety +1

    if u want to learn history,u clicked the wrong video

    • @shamimajahan7204
      @shamimajahan7204 Před 4 lety +2

      Exactly,he is misleading people by false information

    • @ssa3101
      @ssa3101 Před 3 lety +2

      Can you give specific instances where he was wrong or misleading?

    • @ssa3101
      @ssa3101 Před 3 lety +1

      @@shamimajahan7204 where exactly?

  • @aaronTGP_3756
    @aaronTGP_3756 Před rokem

    I wouldn't be all that critical of Hurrem Sultan for killing Mustafa. It wasn't particularly bad for the Empire. The unexpected death of Sehzade Mehmed, Suleiman's favorite son and Hurrem's firstborn, was the real tragedy. Which made Selim the Drunk the heir.
    And Grand Vizier Ibrahim's head was getting too big for his own good. He had it coming.

  • @TheShoukhin
    @TheShoukhin Před 3 lety

    The spinning men are Rumi culture followers. Muslim spiritual thing

  • @susiesmith7694
    @susiesmith7694 Před 2 lety

    I’ll never understand why men think or thought having many woman was the right thing to do.

  • @juvyandmigzunlimited1108
    @juvyandmigzunlimited1108 Před 3 lety +2

    Kosem Sultan....the best Sultana of all time 💖

  • @andrespadilla9382
    @andrespadilla9382 Před 2 lety

    Ayse born in december 1479 not 1478

  • @nesringoksay3364
    @nesringoksay3364 Před 3 lety +4

    Babasının şaraplarını çalıp uçurumlarda şarkı söylerdi papanın meftalarını geri gönderirdi rusya soğuğunda devlet işlerine kafası çalışmadan kaçırdık venedikli yi gelsin muratlar selimler

  • @typhoon2minerva
    @typhoon2minerva Před 4 měsíci

    How come Emitullah Rabia Gulnus Sultan was not part of the sultanate of women she was also known to be powerful sultana after Turhan sultan.

  • @natasasretenovic8903
    @natasasretenovic8903 Před 3 lety +1

    Hurrem 👑

  • @goylanddefree80
    @goylanddefree80 Před rokem

    This kind of goes against the narrative of lack of women's rights in Muslim world

  • @alisahinnnn
    @alisahinnnn Před 3 lety +1

    And Hadith says paradise is under the feet of the mother. Not at the feet of the mother 😂

  • @arifahmedkhan9999
    @arifahmedkhan9999 Před 7 měsíci

    Surely, a reason for ottoman downfall.
    Not only did the women hold power, they also caused a rift. The sultan was no longer the only leader.
    Their inability to hold their nafs led to their lost of power and also led to their downfall

  • @realshweta8130
    @realshweta8130 Před 3 lety +1

    After watching the series, I had different feelings for Hurrem sometimes I adore her, hate her, have pity on her, she has created a history.

  • @elsascridon7256
    @elsascridon7256 Před 3 lety +2

    We see the obsession of these turkish ottoman sultans for european women:))
    So much that in 2centuries they became from asiatic genes to european looking

    • @hadijalali9179
      @hadijalali9179 Před 3 lety +1

      OH WOW!!!! and where did you pull out this nonsensical opinion from? the closest source must have been your rare end. lol

    • @elsascridon7256
      @elsascridon7256 Před 3 lety

      @@hadijalali9179 nonsensical?are not turks ancestors from central Asia And were mongoloid looking?but they mixed with anatolian And european people

    • @hadijalali9179
      @hadijalali9179 Před 3 lety

      @@elsascridon7256 lol! Yup thats indeed an understanding of an extremely ignorant individual. History is not something that a clueless person could reinvent to fit in his very small head! Stop trying that and instead pickup a book!

    • @barbarapiazza-georgi3831
      @barbarapiazza-georgi3831 Před 3 lety +3

      @@elsascridon7256 No, Elsa. They were from West-Central Asia but not from mongoloid looking stock. Those genes start further East.

    • @elsascridon7256
      @elsascridon7256 Před 3 lety

      @@barbarapiazza-georgi3831 just rea
      Wikipedia And medieval chronicles how they looked when they arrived in central Asia before mixing with persians and anatolians

  • @moyurbird7829
    @moyurbird7829 Před 3 lety +1

    Forgive me but if I don't adl I'll not know... I thought concubine is harram

    • @suryahadiwinatas2932
      @suryahadiwinatas2932 Před 3 lety +1

      All concubines actually slaves and Islamic laws don't require slave to be married 🙂

  • @SmokeyB83
    @SmokeyB83 Před rokem

    Didn’t these ottoman sultans have 50 wives? Which one becomes queen or whatever?

  • @ES-fr3yz
    @ES-fr3yz Před rokem +1

    Women always ruled Ottoman empire.
    From the background,especially Christian women that sultans had a weakness for.
    Almost all sultans were born to Christian mothers, mostly of Eastern European background.

  • @lankalakshandesilva2097

    ottamn isunni or shair

  • @shamthorani464
    @shamthorani464 Před 3 lety +1

    Hurrem was not the first haseki.

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety

      Who was?

    • @HamzaHamza-yc4zq
      @HamzaHamza-yc4zq Před 3 lety

      @@HikmaHistory Mahidevran was Haseki before Hürrem

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety +3

      @@HamzaHamza-yc4zq I don't think that title existed before Hurrem...

    • @lilianabudevici3271
      @lilianabudevici3271 Před 3 lety +3

      Mahidevran was never a sultan, she was bas kadin the title sultan wasn’t used for concubines before Hurrem sultan, please read real history and not only the series, also Hurrem was the first slave that married a Sultan this is why they gave her the title of Haseki Sultan, before Hurrem that title never existed.

    • @syedriyan7009
      @syedriyan7009 Před 3 lety

      @@lilianabudevici3271 | you are right, but there was no bas kadin title also. mahidevran was just a consort & mother of a prince, that’s it, no title other than being the mother of a prince.

  • @urvasaleem1464
    @urvasaleem1464 Před 3 lety +1

    Are these their real portraits?

    • @HikmaHistory
      @HikmaHistory  Před 3 lety

      I believe so

    • @thefluffybunny5083
      @thefluffybunny5083 Před 3 lety

      @@HikmaHistory I feel really strange that why each of them is so old like giving a feeling of above 70 even shehzada mustafa bin suleiman is shown so old in the picture

    • @syedriyan7009
      @syedriyan7009 Před 3 lety

      @@HikmaHistory | i doubt they are because we don’t have physical descriptions of these women. these portraits are probably western depictions if these women. the women of the harem weren’t to be seen by non-mahram men and even if they went outside, they went in carriages & were veiled. if they met statesmen, they would talk from behind a screen [something very common in the sultanate of women] and they’d probably be veiled then as well. so technically, it’s practically impossible that these portraits are real.

  • @Horusian
    @Horusian Před 4 lety +6

    Great work but there are some mis infos here.Valide Sultan concept doesnt come from Islamic teaching.In central asia woman have even much more power than ottoman ladies.Turks loved the seeing supporting islamic teaching of their culture about woman.They use these many times.But this is not seen generally in islamic empires.Not even single example like valide sultan concept or powerful woman in other islamic states.Nor in Persia neither in lands of Arabs.

    • @nafismubashir2479
      @nafismubashir2479 Před 3 lety +2

      well semi unrelated but in the Sunni version of the 14 infallibles the 10 men guaranteed heaven there was not a single woman listed in the Shias list 13 men and 1 woman Mohammad his daughter Fatima her husband Ali their sons Hasan and Husayn Zayd who is Husayn's son who married Hasan's daughter Zainab and the 9 imams in a nice father-son succession so it does not make sense why Iran is being attacked when disrespecting women is a Sunni thing

  • @arianrezaie4729
    @arianrezaie4729 Před 4 lety +3

    Her name wasent harram it was khorram

  • @nemocru4626
    @nemocru4626 Před rokem

    Thanks for showing your bais . I'll have to look elsewhere .

  • @willh1970
    @willh1970 Před 3 lety

    I like the Trump reference.. ;)
    While I dont exactly look on the Ottoman, or any, empire as great (its the Irish in me) I cant deny that I am fascinated by the whole history of this period. Looking forward to learning more as I delve into your series. Cheers.