Does Ellen G. White Pass the BIBLICAL Test of a Prophet? w/
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- The Seventh-Day Adventist Church claims that the writings of Ellen G. White speak with "prophetic authority" and serve as an inspired guide to the biblical text-attributing to her the "spirit of prophecy". In this discussion myself, CMB the Ambassador (@cmbtheambassador5773), and Sam Shamoun (@shamounian) examine this claim and test multiple of her visions and prophecies against the SDA Church's own criteria for a prophet-the Bible. Does she pass or fail?
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introduction
1:02 - CMB Introduction
3:03 - Sam Introduction
4:28 - Fundamental Beliefs Reading
9:56 - Fundamental Beliefs Discussion
12:24 - Visionary Insights
14:22 - Ellen White's Letter to Bates
22:15 - Ellen White's First Vision
25:53 - Ellen White's Second Vision
28:10 - Ellen White's Third Vision
29:57 - Pioneers' Age Analysis
32:46 - Vision of the Shut Door Explained
36:12 - April 1847 Vision of the Shut Door
38:51 - January 1849 Vision of the Shut Door
39:30 - Most Holy Place Vision
41:37 - Revisiting the Shut Door Vision
45:55 - Satan's Influence on Prayer Vision
49:44 - Shut Door Theology Overview
52:14 - Channel Promotion Segment
56:20 - Present-Day Truth Analysis
1:05:45 - Apostate Protestantism Discussion
1:07:15 - Analyzing the Shut Door Meaning
1:09:20 - Salvation Door Concept
1:14:34 - Baptism in Shut Door Belief
1:21:22 - Exploring Shut Door Symbolism
1:25:50 - Prophetic Claims of SDA Church
1:27:54 - Criteria for Biblical Prophets
1:28:57 - Jesus' Role in Prophecy
1:32:13 - Great Controversy Origin Story
1:37:12 - Exploring Lucifer's Jealousy
1:39:26 - SDA Church's Christology Critique
1:41:35 - Posthumous Insights from Ellen White
1:46:30 - Regional Conference Ministries Office
1:48:51 - David Koresh Case Study (Branch Davidians)
1:50:40 - Analyzing Negative Outcomes
1:52:42 - American Civil War Discussion
1:53:51 - Sunday Law Controversy
1:55:02 - Concluding Remarks
2:00:15 - National Sunday Law Debate
2:02:49 - Identifying False Prophets
2:11:30 - SDA Advocacy for Sunday Law
2:13:14 - Ellen White's Halo of Light Vision
2:15:20 - Worst-Case Scenario Speculations
2:21:37 - Old English Usage in Cults
2:23:11 - Closing Statements
2:26:19 - Doug Batchelor Mention
2:27:20 - Walter Martin Reference
2:28:51 - Upcoming Topics Teaser
2:32:44 - Final Thoughts on Adventism
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Introduction
1:02 - CMB Introduction
3:03 - Sam Introduction
4:28 - Fundamental Beliefs Reading
9:56 - Fundamental Beliefs Discussion
12:24 - Visionary Insights
14:22 - Ellen White's Letter to Bates
22:15 - Ellen White's First Vision
25:53 - Ellen White's Second Vision
28:10 - Ellen White's Third Vision
29:57 - Pioneers' Age Analysis
32:46 - Vision of the Shut Door Explained
36:12 - April 1847 Vision of the Shut Door
38:51 - January 1849 Vision of the Shut Door
39:30 - Most Holy Place Vision
41:37 - Revisiting the Shut Door Vision
45:55 - Satan's Influence on Prayer Vision
49:44 - Shut Door Theology Overview
52:14 - Channel Promotion Segment
56:20 - Present-Day Truth Analysis
1:05:45 - Apostate Protestantism Discussion
1:07:15 - Analyzing the Shut Door Meaning
1:09:20 - Salvation Door Concept
1:14:34 - Baptism in Shut Door Belief
1:21:22 - Exploring Shut Door Symbolism
1:25:50 - Prophetic Claims of SDA Church
1:27:54 - Criteria for Biblical Prophets
1:28:57 - Jesus' Role in Prophecy
1:32:13 - Great Controversy Origin Story
1:37:12 - Exploring Lucifer's Jealousy
1:39:26 - SDA Church's Christology Critique
1:41:35 - Posthumous Insights from Ellen White
1:46:30 - Regional Conference Ministries Office
1:48:51 - David Koresh Case Study (Branch Davidians)
1:50:40 - Analyzing Negative Outcomes
1:52:42 - American Civil War Discussion
1:53:51 - Sunday Law Controversy
1:55:02 - Concluding Remarks
2:00:15 - National Sunday Law Debate
2:02:49 - Identifying False Prophets
2:11:30 - SDA Advocacy for Sunday Law
2:13:14 - Ellen White's Halo of Light Vision
2:15:20 - Worst-Case Scenario Speculations
2:21:37 - Old English Usage in Cults
2:23:11 - Closing Statements
2:26:19 - Doug Batchelor Mention
2:27:20 - Walter Martin Reference
2:28:51 - Upcoming Topics Teaser
2:32:44 - Final Thoughts on Adventism
I can’t believe I thought she was an actual prophet growing up 😂
She was a prophet but a false one.
Listening and about 45 min in. Adventist currently. I see you guys laughing sometimes at these writings.. and I can’t help but join you. It’s rough though but I can’t help to see so much biblical error in her writings now. In my opinion, I think because she has SO MUCH published in her name it’s hard to pin point at times all the inconsistencies. This past year has been so hard to see a church that I loved and respected with all its flaws become a church system I can no longer support. The evidence is just to great. My heart is heavy but I know the Lord will lead. God bless you guys.. I know it’s not always an easy road 🙏🏽
I have always wondered why Ellen would freely take writings from supposed apostate writers (not SDA) and present it as visionary truth.
Even apostates have some truth, it's how Satan lures you in, it's how he lured Eve 99% truth and 1% lie. Also, Ellen never passed anything she wrote from others off as her own visions, did she, in fact, quote other's truths that supported what she saw in her visions? Yes, but even then whatever she quoted from them was nonetheless the truth. Myles twist, turns, and misquotes everything he tries to use to mislead people, he is a liar and the truth is not in him per John 2:4
Why Her Prophecies Failed?
"Thus the work was hindered, and the world was left in darkness. Had the whole Adventist
body united upon the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, how widely different would have been our history." SELECTED MESSAGES, Book 1, p. 299
She blames/blamed, it on YOU, the Seventh-day Adventist church members!
I think I heard somewhere that recently their president of the general conference made the same statement, making their members guilty because Jesus still didn’t return!
Yes that was a common accusation thrown at me, it was all my fault get failed prophecies hadn’t happened - interesting part was when I threw it back at them the answer was always “I don’t have to”
Her grandson came to our church representing the White Estate around 1992. He spoke at a special afternoon meeting. He said “ Nothing my grandmother prophesied has not come true” 100% he said! I couldn’t stand it. I stood up in the dark church and said “ What about what she said about “self abuse”. That’s clearly not true. He said all the science is not all in on that. Or something similar. So deceit is genetic. How sad he grew up and felt he had no option but to further the lie!
For the White's it was all about the Benjamins $$$,$$$,$$$ no truth in them.
There’s money to be made in perpetuating the lie. Hats off to Dale Ratzlaff, who stepped away from the monetary benefits of continuing in the SDA ministry in favor of Truth. He is now receiving his reward for his life’s work.
I am amazed at what Adventists will argue. It is recorded in Ellen White's own writings that she had a message from her husband after he died. It even included "instructions" from him. Adventists themselves know how wrong necromancy is, and so to defend Ellen White, they say it was a dream, and that she wasn't consulting a spirit. It is absolutely incredible, to what extent they will argue and "defend".
Moreover I do not believe that any saint in scripture received any message from a passed on person in a dream.
So was God supposedly tricking or confusing Ellen?
She taught that the dead are totally unconscious and incapable of communicating.
After being invited to an SDA church and bible study I went as far as being baptised AGAIN, into that church thinking I had found the truth. But I became very confused and still even after leaving that church, I always wonder about the sabbath, I mean rome did change it via Constantine. How can anyone make a day Holy? they can't. The world was forced to stop worshipping on the sabbath day and rather worship on the day of the sun until it became the norm! How do we justify this? keeping the sabbath Holy is still a part of the ten Commandments? Why do we keep the other nine if they were put away? In Colossians where Paul spoke of basically worshipping on whatever day you hold sacred, seems to me to mean no sabbath keeping was necessary anymore. So my concern now is, what if we all have been deceived and sunday worship or saturday worship are not necessary, none of them. So anyone promoting sabbath in any shape or form could be wrong?🤨🤔
Thing is many don't keep the other nine. I attended for over 30 yrs & saw first hand. Without Jesus we're in trouble.
That's the thing or doesn't matter what day we gather on. Whether Sunday in remembrance of the resurrection or Shabbat. It is your conviction, per Romans14 but each day we worship our Lord and God. It doesn't matter because ultimately Jesus was the substance of the Shabbat. Collosians 2. But we are told to gather so if one chooses to gather one day or the other or every day we need to fellowship and worship our Lord as a body
Thing is that, if we belong to Christ, in HIM we have entered the Sabbath rest that the law only pointed to. like Adam before the fall lived in a perpetual Sabbath, resting in "it is good". In Christ as His new creation (by His death and resurrection already, by His finished work already, guaranteed by down-payment through the Holy Spirit indwelling us, not set up by some fake spirit of fake prophecy to be waiting still on standing the slim chance some investigative judgement by keeping the law that has never ever saved anyone and never will save nor compliment the sufficient atonement and utmost salvation wrought by CHRIST ALONE.
This was a really good show. I enjoyed al the shut door discussion and also bringing up their ages, and also thebrole of elders
Shut Door is one of their Acheeles Heels. It plagues them to this day. And they can’t use their favorite “that was a conditional prophecy” excuse.
@@answeringadventism that's a great point about "conditional" excuse.
She copied her first vision from -- Miller's 1843 sermon, William Foy, and has striking parallels with the writings of Robert Pollok, Ephraim Wood, John Bunyan. Book of Jasher, Esdras, Edward Dorr Griffin.
As always, you brothers did an amazing job. I hope many sincere SDA's will watch this and learn the truth about their truth.
Yes, Ellen White was an inspired messenger of God.
@@cindiloowhoo1166 Amen, CindiLoo. October 22, 1844 was the time to start the fulfilling of Daniel 8:14.
@@earlysda Christ entered the Inner Sanctuary long before 1844, according to Hebrews 6:19-20
@@earlysda Christ entered the Inner Sanctuary long before 1844, according to Hebrews 6:19-20
@@nixluvsjesus Nicole, Jesus Christ entered the Most Holy Place for the first time on October 22, 1844. Hebrews 6:19-20 is referring to the Holy Temple in heaven.
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Please read your Bible, and study Moses' and Solomon's Sanctuaries and everything involved with them.
In fact I’m going to post this video on line!!! When I go to prophesy again tv. I said I won’t watch thier videos . But there is a work to do! Lol
Investigation , judgement, shutting my door lol heeeee
Joseph smith and Ellen g white were soo much alike! Both!!!!!! Calling all other New Testament churches an abomination they only used different words that really!!! Meant the same thing
1 John 1:8 8 "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."
Ellen Whits says that we will get to a point were we do not sin. Notice what the Bible says about people that say this. The truth is not in them.
Terry, do you believe you will keep sinning in heaven?
@@earlysda I can answer you with this.
.SDAism is anti-intellectual in the sense that everyone is mystified, under a spell. When a "spiritual fact" is pointed out to them that doesn't fit into their logically compartmentalized system, they twist their brains into pretzels in order to force it to fit.
For example, Colossians 2:14 (NIV) says Christ "forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross."
Now virtually the entire world of biblical scholarship interprets "the written code, with its regulations" as the law of Moses, including the 10 Commandments.
But because SDA's have to hang onto the seventh-day Sabbath at all costs, they have come up with absurd interpretations. I was once told that in seminary Dr. Edward Heppenstall, rest his soul, came up with a half-way position. He used to say it was "the CURSE of the law" that was nailed to the cross, and he was the most liberal of SDA scholars and suffered accordingly.
And I was told of another instructor that Dr. Raul Dederen used to teach that "only the CEREMONIAL law" was nailed. My former SDA friend told me he remembered when Dr. H corrected Dr. D and made him change his interpretation mid-course. It was embarrassing for all of them. Dr. H was then REMOVED from his post as head of the theology department at the SDA seminary at Andrews along with a large number of other professors during the great purge of the late 60s. And Dr. H's revised position never took hold.
Today the church still says it was only the ceremonial law that was nailed. And if you read Dr. Bacchiocchi's book FROM SABBATH TO SUNDAY you will find this "intellectual" interpretation:
On page 351 he says that what God "nailed on the cross" was "the record and the guilt of our sins." And he concludes by saying that Colossians 2:14 "has nothing to say about the law and the Sabbath."
As someone once said -- "as Adventists we were taught that intellectual understanding is everything" -- has validity, since Adventists can read Dr. B's book (which is based on his Ph.D. work at Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome) and feel quite giddily "intellectual" and reassured that "intellectual understanding is everything."
But in reality all they are doing is turning their own brains into the exact same shape as Dr. Bacchiocchi's.
Pretzels, anyone?
@@terrygreenman1540 Terry, that is instructive that you chose not to answer the question posed you. I'm praising God for sending his Holy Spirit to prick your conscience for being a doer of iniquity.
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Please remember what Christ will say to all doers of iniquity at the Great Judgment, and resolve to repent and follow Jesus' perfect example today.
@@earlysda It is the Lord who is sovereign. Let him tell you what to do, not me or anyone else. My salvation is eternal and safe in his hands.
Jesus says, "My sheep listen to my voice; I
know them, and they follow me. I give them
eternal life, and they shall never perish; NO
ONE can snatch them out of my hand. My
Father, who has given them to me, is greater
than all, no one can snatch them out of my
Father's hand. I an the Father are one." NIV
John 10:27-30.
His voice never said and his teachings never taught
"But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall." KJV Malachi 4:2.
@@earlysda Saved sinners, saved by the blood of Jesus have nothing to worry about that. Your intellectual idea of keeping 10 C's perfectly is your ticket to ride? Unsaved people don't have that "ticket to ride" (Polar Express). They do however face judgement. They just don't get to hang out at Jesus house, He died for them but they reject Him.
Now a question for you.
I am Holy and Perfect. How about you?
How dare I make so bold? It's easy. I take the Bible seriously.
1. So how am I holy? It's right here in Hebrews 10:10 NIV:
"By that will [God's], we [believers] have
been made holy through the sacrifice of the
body of Jesus Christ once for all [time and
people]."
Conclusion: I am holy -- I am DECLARED holy just as I am declared righteous -- for I am a believer. Can you say the same for yourself?
2. And how am I perfect? Same way -- just a
couple of verses further on in Hebrews
10:12-14 NIV:
"When this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. Since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool, because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy."
Conclusion: I am perfect -- I am DECLARED
perfect just as I am declared righteous and
holy -- for I am a believer. Can you say the
same for yourself?
There are ex Adventist videos I watched that are good . But this!!!!! I Live! You guys go into deeper!!! Details!
Excellent Job Guys! Everything you presented was factual.
My lord this people r dillusional thanks miles keep it coming continue to expose adventism false doctrines
It’s taken me 2 years at least!!!! To not teeter totter! On that church! It’s because of you making videos in details!!!!! That has given me confidence to say no!!!!! To that church! I’m not on that teeter totter . No more I’m not watching thier videos! No more!
I’m using your video!!!!
The elevation of the Son of God was the invention of John Milton, from his book Paradise Lost. And from that book came the Great Controversy, not from the Lovetts' Grove fake vision!
Yes, exactly!
If you get a chance study the Burnt Over District. Who they copied and stole from is interesting. Her childhood injury and recovery sure resemble Universal Public Friend.
Blessings 🙏
2 years ago I asked an SDA minister about the prophets (plural) at the end time. The answer was that the prophets Joel prophecied is referring to "minor" prophets but EGW was the major prophet. I have met zero "minor" prophets in the SDA church. Was this minister quoting EGW ? Ive never heard this before.
I’d love to hear from CMB some now. He’s got a lot of knowledge and patience
He has a CZcams channel and has done many presentations on this.
My ankles cant handle high heels i would fall down! Hee
Keep up the work! Please?
Excellent presentation, Myles. On the subject of "present truth," the following is a comment I posted on Defeating Adventism #96:
Question for SDAs: As we all know, Ellen White consistently interpreted 2 Peter 1:12 (KJV) to teach that “truth” changes over time, as for example in her statement that, "Special truths have been adapted to the conditions of the generations as they have existed. The present truth, which is a test to the people of this generation, was not a test to the people of generations far back.”
How many of you have figured out that Ellen White’s interpretation of 2 Peter 1:12 was a sophomoric blunder: that the word “present” in the KJV does not mean chronologically current but instead means at hand, as in "is present with you"?
Therefore I intend always to remind you of these qualities, though you know them and are established in the truth that you have. (2 Peter 1:12 ESV)
Therefore, I will always be ready to remind you of these things, even though you already know them and have been established in the truth which is present with you. (2 Peter 1:12 NASB)
So I will always remind you of these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth you now have. (2 Peter 1:12 NIV)
James, you write: "“truth” changes over time", but Ellen White never wrote that.
Is it wise to put your private interpretation on what others wrote, and then attack your own private interpretation?
Adventist need!!!! Your videos!
Concerning the shut door and investigative sanctuary doctrine: It puzzles me why God/Jesus would need time to investigate anything- God is omniscient so….
Great job tonight to all. Praying for that one guy. Romans 10:13 🙏
The gift of prophecy throughout the bible does not apply exclusively to one person, the bible mentions old people, adults, young people who received the gift of prophecy.
Love!
For the show
Most adventist don't read or study or know what her prophecies are and if they were shown these things would reject it.
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Then I knelt at the angel's feet to worship him, but he said to me: - Don't do that! For I am a servant of God, just as you and your brothers are who remain faithful to the truth revealed by Jesus. Worship God! For the truth revealed by Jesus is the message that the Spirit delivers to the prophets.
I am trying to play it safe w bible at my side and one!!!!!!! Name under heaven! And Earth! Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is only a name abused by the Adventist's and the Armstrongites *to teach Moses* (Acts 15:-16) . Phil 3:18 *"For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:"*
1844 the Day of Atonement was on Sept. 23, not Oct. 22nd. In fact it is never later than the 14th of Oct.
Interesting!
Him and others almost had me hooked line and sinker!
Actually I see a picture of dissociation I think????getting people to dissociate! From the truth.
Did egw invent the first revolving door?
Her claims,prophecies and visions certainly are dizzying.
If Ellen "saw" that one in twenty Adventist will pass the judgment,.. My question to SDA members - Do you still want to stick around this movement? Why not chuck this whole EGW stuff and come to the true Jesus who saves to the uttermost??
She was dead wrong about her assumption! There would be millions perhaps faithful to the end.
The fundamental beliefs are available for downloads in their official webpage
It was only! A thought! My dream is sort of like a puzzle w heavy symbolism.
As an SDA questioning Adventism, the entire time I was listening, I was thinking about conditional prophecy and how that might apply to EGW’s apparent “failed” visions. I was happy when that was brought up near the end of the video, and Jonah, who I was also thinking about in relation to this, was discussed. However, I was a little disappointed with how you reasoned away conditional prophecy as a viable Adventist argument, because when I paused the video and went to read Jonah for myself, Jonah’s message from God did NOT say, “If you do not repent, your city will be destroyed” as YOU SAID IT WAS in this video. The message (both times God gives it) reads:
“Arise, go to Nineveh, the great city, and cry out against it, because their wickedness has come up before Me.” - Jonah 1:2
“Arise, go to Nineveh, the great city, and proclaim to it the proclamation which I am going to give you…Then Jonah began to go through the city, one day’s walk; and he cried out and said, ‘40 more days, and Nineveh will be overthrown.’” - Jonah 3:2,4
God did not say, “If you do not repent, in 40 days, Nineveh will be overthrown.” That is adding to God’s Word. You said that EGW declared “This is what God told me” and Jonah gave a message with a condition added to it. That’s simply not what I read in the Bible. It is plain that the message God gave Jonah for Nineveh was also a “This is what God told me” declaration.
You also said that Jonah was angry because the people were spared. In context, I don’t think that’s what Jonah was angry about. Instead, I think Jonah was angry that he had gone to all that trouble because he EXPECTED GOD TO CHANGE HIS MIND AND HAVE MERCY ON NINEVEH, thus he didn’t see a point in declaring God’s NON-conditional message. It wasn’t that Jonah knew God’s message was a conditional prophecy-it’s that he expected God would change His mind because He knew God was a God of mercy.
I really have been enjoying watching your presentations as I really do want to be convinced that Adventism is not of God-I think I’m just a bit rebellious, haha-however, I really think there was an error made when it came to how you explained away the Adventist argument of a conditional prophecy. The way I heard it, you added your own bias and words to the Scripture so that you could have a quick response to a very valid question in the chat.
This is not meant to be argumentative as, like I said, I have been enjoying learning about this. But I would appreciate (if there isn’t one in existence already) if you could have a discussion dedicated to the topic of conditional prophecy, being true to God’s Word. Because as it currently stands in my mind, after doing my own study alongside watching this livestream, it still seems like a viable argument.
Thanks so much for your time. :)
You are referring to CMB, he is a guest on this channel, not the operator.
But no, the conditional prophecy excuse has been dealt with at great length on this channel as well as on our website. It’s a terrible argument, which is why I don’t even bother with the “conditional” prophecies. There’s countless ones where that excuse doesn’t work. She doesn’t even come close to passing the test.
The Bible vs. Ellen White: The Funeral Service of a False Prophet: czcams.com/users/liveLWbfo3LTaQo?feature=share
answeringadventism.com/were-ellen-whites-failed-prophecies-all-conditional/
Walter veith says no one can rely on personal experiences ! What!!! What about Ellen!!!! She had many of them!!! False ones! And ! When u teach people to ignore!!!! There own experiences that’s getting people to self doubt!!!!
I would have to pray about that one
Going to check out that book by EJ
All 3 volumes are excellent. Very thorough
To me it should be required reading...they are that good
Great stuff. Sam Shamoun about a year ago discovered that Doug's website had the Trinity as three beings. I think Batchelor changed his website statement. I can't seem to find it, but I screen shot it
Their own official website says 3 beings. Check it out. I brought it up on part 1 of my stream with Sam a few weeks ago.
www.Adventist.org/Trinity
@@answeringadventism They are so scheming. They use the same terms and redefine them using a long-winded approach to make them seem legit. Thank you, and appreciate your no-nonsense style. It's about time we don't let the 11th Commandment "thou shalt be nice" to hamper our presentation of truth.
What is the best church to join
Catholics
I had a thought????? It’s only a question? I wonder if Old Testament and New Testament could symbolize sackcloath and armor?
The health message is really quite strange. Eating the 'right foods' in order to keep your mind 'healthy' translates to mind/salvation tath is your soul ? So odd, not scriptural for certain !
Interesting thought. If a person rejects the "present 1844 truth" and hence the door shuts on their salvation, does this mean that their name is simultaneously being reviewed in the IJ? How else could they be "shut out" and a heavenly judgement be made unless this happened simultaneously? The more I learn from your through presentations the more I see how absolutely wacko this system is.
I understand EGW she was false prophet but I don’t understand why the top leaders and the whole people in the church won’t give her up and admit she is eather a liar or lunatic. I was a seventh day adventist but thanks God I’m out of it. Thanks for your program. God bless you both.
If they let her go, their whole system crumbles....and then there is PRIDE. Many top leaders know the truth but they don't want to give up their retirements, their reputations, their status in a rich & powerful organization.
@@rebeccagable9629 It is not about pride only, but also the money. SDAs are rich, they can't just let it go of the money printer
I've been reading Canright. He states that Mr White would go off on their most loyal pastors. Canright should be read by anyone wanting to understand the SDA. 🙏
Steve Daily now has a book available which goes into detail (as he always does) about Canright titled “The White Estate Fraud”
Funny Hugh! Shutting the door! Lol does that remind you all of anything?
Yeah Walter and his amazing facts channel. I think that’s what they call it?
Do t ask me why!
Hello Brothers! Who is James Snapp?
Soo I ask Do they sound holy or unholy?
I. Would say... No.
Think thier members can see?
Thank you, CMB. Walter Martin did sip on the SDA koolaid and got played. I agree.
It’s not hard to do. Before I started dating my (now) wife 34 years ago, I asked her the “Evangelism Explosion” question: if you were to die and stand before God and He were to ask you, ‘Why should I let you in to my heaven?’, what would you say?”
She gave a clearer, more exacting answer than any I had received in the previous 2 years. I can see how Martin was misled. Unfortunately, SSAs mix into the simple idea of “Grace” a good dose of works.
They lied to him.
SDAs have multiple facets which they can present to make their heterodoxy as palatable as needs be to their audience
Yes! And it is easy to see that the sophistry of Seventh-day Adventism is Satanically empowered, sadly. Ellen White was too dumb to have created the SDA monster.@@Jaco3688
Awesome video! Yes Steve Daily’s book Ellen G White A Psychobiography is a hum dinger ! The White estate hid a lot of garbage until they were internally hacked in 2012.
Absolutely correct, Sabrina! Yesterday I finished re-reading Steve Daily’s book (I’ve read it twice now). The documentation, citing of sources, insights, and nuanced (almost) week-by-week account of EGW’s life is unbelievably thorough. If you want insights into the entire SDA history and evolution of the group, this is easily the best educational book available.
I might leave Walter and martain a message too. Along with this video. I don’t e mail . I only go on thier channel.
Yes!!!!! Cults attack Jesus priesthood!
I think we all have instincts or intuition
Hey since i do live in America
I find that the sda folks are so much like catholics ---- they don't believe in the FINISHED work of Jesus --- they seem to believe you have to keep yourself IN God's grace like catholics do
Sorry Catholics are NOT SDAs. SDA belong to Satan and Catholics belong to The Real Christ by the virgin birth
And gonna call it good! Where I say no more!!!im shutting the door! To thier church.
Only have that feeling!
I heard by diff people that a catholic monk or priest invented the name Jehovah that !!! I’m not sure how true? That is.
And of course the pearl necklace i would wear would be costume jewrly too
Is it ironic about Ben Carson and mitt Romney! Both ran? Did Ben Carson run?
Two hours alone in this man's house is a bit strange .
What would a psychologist say to that? I know there’s a name for it is it cognitive? Dissidence?
Whom ever that would be
Would fit the picture better
Were the harmons, prior to 1844 part of the shouting Methodists ? Or when did Ellen enter this ?
Yes. They jumped from one fanatical movement to the next. They were booted from the Methodist Church upon their crossover to Millerism for being disruptive and a nuisance.
Dr. Steve Daily documents and lays all of this out in his book on Ellen Whites psycho-biography.
@@answeringadventism I’ll ask him about it . Thank you much .
Absolutely so was Ellen, her family were disfellowshipped in 1843, because they embraced the false teachings of Miller. That's what Adventists do to those who reject Ellen White!
yes, she and James White part of the fanatical group before coming out
I still cant get over walter vieth! How he could not know ! Really makes me sad but i cant over worry about him
Sorry! Mis spelling
I think I have to leave some more messages! Lol to prophecy again tv! I think I’m a thorn in thier side . Lol
Cannot leave the president out of the picture
Not cuz my feet stink! But have a feeling i need to mix the water w vinegar
Or mayb white dress?
Hope you guys don’t mind? I’m using your video! You ain’t gonna get me???!!!! For plagerism are yous?
Well they all can cook me a fish dinner lol
Or something else?
And of course I’m telling them I did an investigation on thier church . I told phrophecy again tv that before
The fact that she had numerous failed prophecies makes every SDA member either idiots or liars for confessing to anyone she was a true prophetess of GOD.
Nothing "or"
They are idiotic liars was the word you were looking for.
Thanks bro for your content. From last sunday i watch your content and i am finish with sda! That judgement doctrin is garbage... The only problem is that my parents are members in sda :((( i am not from usa so sorry for my average english!
God bless you!
@@rebeccagable9629 thanks ❤️🌸❤️
Jehova in Freemason bible is thier great architect
See how they threw in shifting shadows! I see why they threw it in there.
For washing!
What is she talking about the Temple Did not the TEMPLE OF GOD HAD BEEN FINSH WITH SINCE JESUS CHRIST WAS NAILED TO THE CROSS And the Vale was torn in half so that means that we have no more Temple but the one we have in our hearts ♥️ reading the truth about Jesus Christ in the KJV bible Christ only bible KJV 1611 Ed asking the Holy spirit to be with you and ask for guidance reading your KJV bible will give you the truth about Jesus Christ amen 🙏 ❤
Not going to watch them but write to them. They should be used to it! Lol
They would prob start laughing!
I see Mormon , Jehovah witness and 7 day advent all use this name
I’m sure it would be finished with now and we have a different temple because of the cross no more in earth so it not in heaven now it’s not on earth is it
It’s all kind control!!!! W these 3 churches
Like wolves drooling at the mouth they must be real hungry!