Rayquaza vs King Ghidorah | Pokémon vs The Monsterverse
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
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Rayquaza, the Pokemon Emerald dragon of the sky. King Ghidorah, the golden dragon of the Monsterverse. Both are powerful dragons within their respective verses and franchises. However, in a battle between these two forces of nature, who would win? Join me today as we discuss who would win between Rayquaza and King Ghidorah from a powerscaling perspective.
I really hope you guys enjoyed this video. This took literal months of research. I hope I did both characters justice. Especially with all the crazy Godzilla x Kong The New Empire stuff. Mostly the things with Evolved Godzilla, as well as Shimo and Burning Godzilla.
Big shoutouts to there guys. Especially Slasher: / slasher131 and Totizera: www.tiktok.com... who helped provide me out with calcs and provided me with scans.
Here are the Godzilla scalers who really helped me understand the scope of power in the Monsterverse.
Godzilla King of the Monsters:  / @godzillakingofthemons...
Goji-Chronic: / @goji-c
Viper: / @viper6163
The battle between the Emerald Dragon and the Golden Hydra
Emerald Sky God vs Alien Invader
Videos like this remind me that power scaling should never be taken too seriously. In a good way.
Also this guy has the most edgy, sonic OC look I've ever seen, and I mean that in the best way possible.
As a Kaiju fan, hearing that Rayquaza can use Airlock and the fact that Ghidorah can passively create storms was what made me believe that our Golden boy is at a real disadvantage
Showa Ghidorah would have a better time combating Raquaza which is honestly hilarious despite the fact this would be true.
Which is not surprising because Japan always have their creations have bogus powerscaling compared to America’s creations
Japan on there way to make their creations having magnus opus abilities:
@@ClownInTheInternet Japan on their way on creating Exodia The Greater
fr showa ghidorah is always underestimated especially compared to the mv incarnation despite being 1000s of times stronger
No showa would kill the pokemon god
@@eddieboston6540 Absolutely Not. Showa Ghidorah Scales to Solar System-Multi-Solar System Level while True Form Arceus Scales Above Time, Space, and Anti-Matter. Plus at Maximum Arceus Scales to Outerversal-Low Boundless.
I honestly saw Rayquaza winning a mile away, Nintendo characters are always so damn OP.
only now i found out how broken pokemon were in scaling, i really couldn't be arsed after gen 9 released. shit game
@@oliyes406 Pokemon verse is just nuts in every way. If you think that "Legendaries are the only one's that are strong" you couldn't be more wrong. Like, we literally have Gardevoir sitting there with the ability to create Black Holes just so it can protect his trainer, and Magcargco who literally has the temperature of the FUCKING SUN-
Also, Gen 9 isn't bad, the game (In a game dev point) is bad. Everything else, including history, characters and pokemon are just nuts
@@bedistime1575 i couldn't even get past the first gym without being bored to death
@@oliyes406 I feel you
Gotta love how this got top comment, spoiling the whole video. Damn it yt
Well well, what do we have here?
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 bro I’m so geeked that you are here haha. I hope I did King Ghidorah justice. I actually favored him winning, but feel free to share thoughts as well as critiques.
@@UmbraTWolf I'll go over this with some pokemon guys I know and get back to you
@@godzillakingofthemonsters5812 sounds great! Feel free to hit me up on discord as well.
@@UmbraTWolfi didn't know a goofy green dragon was stronger then an giant alien with lightning powers and could you give me a more detailed explanation on how this goofy green dragon wins? Pokemons have the ability to arrive to planetary but that's the same with Ghidorah im not really sure of the theory
YOOOO ITS THE GOAT
3:45 if i remember correctly rayquaza beat up both primal groudon and kyogre in ancient times without the mega.
Nah, he used mega
To be fair, this is pokemon. Its a pretty decently OP verse.
Bring in showa or void ghidorah with this one
@@burgerboy491showa Loses,void is Featless
@@Bloxfruitsistrashlmaocope nah bro void ghidorah comes out of black holes and stuff
@@Ocacadordecasadas void is stated to be powerfull enough to devour the universe if It fully enters our reality
@@Alex-il9jm Stated,so no actual feats yet
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Even if monster zero is bigger rayquaza is has the size advantages he could dodge ghidora attacks easily and making ghidora a bigger target is like your trying to catch a fly that annoys you but your not fast enough to catch it
Damn, I didn't realize how stacked the Pokemon world is. Really hoping for more mon scaling, this was a banger
Before any of ya all Godzilla fans complain (I’m a huge Godzilla fan too), this was only Monsterverse Ghidorah. Not Composite or Void Ghidorah! 😂
Good video! I wonder if you can also tackle Rayquaza vs Bahamut from Final Fantasy? Final Fantasy is seriously OP, and I feel that Bahamut vs Rayquaza (a composite Ray) is a very fair match.
As a Godzilla fan I am unbothered by who won this
I may be a Godzilla fan but I'm also a Pokemon fan
I mean even if you bring up void. You can take the abysmally larger cosmology of pokemon so that rayquaza clears anyway. Also void ghidorah is probably a Godzilla ultima victim
@@KaijuOfWar same
@@Alastordadeer it's not a possible ultima victim, he a guaranteed ultima victim
@@KaijuOfWar facts
W video bro
imagine Gojicenter making a battle on this, would be fire
Ooh yes! Rayquayquay content.
Also Khidorah was my fav dragon before Ray so thats cool.
Awesome video! Really got into the details.
But i feel like the video speed is normal on 1.5x
Any franchise: has powerful characters
Pokémon 🐐: personally I thought that was illegal
First video of your’s that I’ve watch and I loved it. I’ve actually NEVER thought of this matchup before but hearing it was very interesting. One note (tho not actually about the matchup), unless this is just how you normally speak in everyday life, you speak quite slowly in this vid and eventually the things your explaining become slowly more boring and I can see people clicking off because of that. But in terms of your actual voice, it’s actually really nice!
Note: after writing this I put the vid in 1.25 and it actually sounded better lol
@@XYZ_29129 I’ll keep that in mind for future videos. I try to speak somewhat slow to try to keep a sort of cool effect to maybe make it sound more intense. I also speak somewhat slow to try and make it clear about what I am talking about. From my personal experience and this could just be my own personal preference, but if I am watching a video where someone speaks too fast and is very in your face, especially when it comes to information about things such as power and vs debates (where normally you want to make yourself and your points clear anyway), then you could end up missing information and have to rewatch it a few times to grasp what they were saying.
That is just my own view on it. However I will definitely keep this in mind, thank you for your feedback!
@@UmbraTWolf Oh I completely agree. Making your points clear is definitley important. I just don’t think it’s needed to go slow to the point you’re taking it. However, that cool effect 100% works along with your deeper voice. Great video man 👍
2:17
Reminds me of what some burning Godzilla pfp guy should start doing, leaving out a butload of info on his least favorite Kaiju to claim his fave wins isn't really fair if you ask me.
Loved this. Hoping Death battle tackle Rayquaza Bahamut and Ghidorah VS Deathwing.
Would love to see your take on games like Mortal Kombat.
bahamut? like battle cats?
@@kirbmaster9405 Final Fantasy
@@thedrunkgiraffe8312 oh
I feel like he should have said emerald vs gold
Gold is better cause you cant make emerald armor.
@rexyjp1237 that's why mods were made
@@rexyjp1237emerald is better cause gold can’t buy you diamond armor
They need to make a death battle of this fight like I’ve seen people request it in comments that form they be having in the description; hell even in streams I don’t get why they won’t make it I think it’s the most requested fight.
A fight i want to see: Zilla Jr vs Monsterverse Godzilla
So this is comp rayquaza vs monsterverse king Ghidorah
The highest pokemon get is complex multi with arceus
True. It may be surprising, but the Godzilla scaling ( on the higher ends) gets way higher, with a minimum of 4th or 5th dimensional. Monster verse is pretty weak compared to both though.
Now do Rayquaza VS. Composite King Ghidorah and watch Rayquaza get destroyed.
It’s finally here!
I would NOT use gkotm (the youtuber not movie) for reference. He commonly expresses biased toward powerscaling. Hes also extremely disrespectful to those who dont agree with him
How is he biased he gives credit to every monster in fights and explains all their feats in a battle. Also usually the people who don’t agree with him are the biased Kong fans in comments hating on him so he has a reason to treat them horribly
@@jurassicjuice2479 I simply expressed how I disagree with him and he called me an idiot and the r slur, and he commonly ignores certain feats or blows there out of proportion depending on which he likes more. Example is how he’d give heisei Godzilla extreme high balls but legendary unfair lowballs.
@@daffierpython7755 he probably thought you were being toxic but ur right that is a bit mean
@@jurassicjuice2479 oh I wasn’t being disrespectful at all. I actually framed my comment along with my reply’s in a pretty respectful tone and despite that he still kept going
@@daffierpython7755 I know you weren’t being disrespectful he probably just thought you were another toxic fan even though your not because he deals with them a lot
GODZILLA VS GROUDON!! G O D Z I L L A VS G R O U D O N ! ! ! !
If we use stats, Mega Rayquaza only gets a 1 and 5/34 boost (multiplication) because it’s base stats were only boosted by 100 out of its 680 in its base form, but the stats don’t work if we are powerscaling because it downscales everything if the stats can change due to different forms
It said not using stats
@@cjh7470 I know
rayquaza dominates, W video
heisei godzilla vs rayquaza, or even arceus would be better
Arceus in lore created a universe and beat a universal threat
@@CT-7567CaptainRex6 yeah what is burning Godzilla gonna do to arceus ?
@@John-mp4qcThe fire would get nullified
@@Alastordadeer and I think arceus is smart to send Godzilla somewhere else before he explode, maybe a pocket dimension.
I haven't thought about Rayquaza since I was 8 years old
I would love if you did something like Kratos vs Gor the god butcher. I honestly think it would be really cool if you showed off the power of them since you definitely have plenty of experience in power scaling plus there would be plenty of different types of evidence that you could pull from especially on kratos.
Gor is too much for Kratos. Marvel Thor makes GoW Zeus and Odin combined look like babies.
@@BlankEmporium well if we say that the gods scale to the mythology then it could be a different story
@@Redacted2525 I mean, yeah, sure, it would be. But that applies to Marvel Thor as much GoW characters.
@@BlankEmporium not really. In the comics it is clear the asguardians are just an alien species that resembles the Norse gods while god of war makes it clear that there supposed to be the gods from the mythology.
@@Redacted2525 No. In the MCU, Asgardians are aliens. In the comics they are actual Gods. Odin is the son of Bor, who is son to Yimir. Jormangunder exists and wraps around the world. Hela is Loki's daughter, alongside Fenrir as his son. If anything, Marvel is truer to Mythology than GoW (concerning the Norse Gods.)
Comp Mothra Vs Rayquaza(Going with the higher end scaling for him) is a more interesting fight imo
What’s the strongest mothra?
@@Alastordadeermothra leo(high universal)
@@Cherry_Zilla Yeah, definitely loses to comp base Rayquaza, Pokemon cosmology reasons. The planets regions are their own worlds they’re basically universes, like how it was said that the creation duo created sinnoh specifically. And sinnoh specifically would be destroyed even though the universe was supposed to be gone and a new one took its place. And that’s not factoring in the spirit world and dream dimension contained in that world. This low end scaling means not factoring in the cosmology and full scale. Though it’s if you factor in legends arceus and diamond/pearl and platinum
Considering base groudon and kyogre can wipe out the planet, and primal groudon literally controls the sun, meaning large stars and rayquaza wipes them. Godzilla is at best dwarf star level
Monarch legacy scaling can get him to solar but if we're doing that we will use rayquaza scaling to necrozma
Rayquaza`s ability that removes weather effects would destroy Ghidorah's passive hurricane (right?). That would create an immediate disadvantage for ghidorah (which is not even needed😂) but even if they are on the same level in att potency, Ray would still easily beat ghidorah by speedblitzing him. (If they are on the same lvl, ray could just speedblitz him and keep hurting him until he runs out of energy to heal himself.
Bro shut up, King Ghidorah scrambles him. 😂😂 Dude is tiny
@@JuanSanchez-rs3lu explain how he would hit him with a (at least) 900x speed diff?
@@JuanSanchez-rs3lubeing bigger is a disadvantage here
@@Cherry_Zilla just because something is so small doesn’t mean you can’t just predict where he will be next, there are 3 heads, and kaijus have the same reaction speeds to characters like Goku and Superman, surprisingly
@@thetitanriders808 and the speed doesn’t matter when you’re stronger, just a pest
Oh it arrived nice 🎉
at first i thought this would be a cool matchup, but rayquaza's star level?? what did ghidorah do to deserve this? i mean, what specifically??? 😭🙏🙏
I mean ghidorah is also drawf star and close to star level
King Ghidorah easily wins here, hands down... if it's one of the stronger versions of King Ghidorah, like Showa where power scaling gets ridiculous. But if you're using Monsterverse Ghidorah then yeah I can see Rayquaza winning. But if it's like a big composite thing with all forms of King Ghidorahs' and their best qualities then yeah no Rayquaza stands no chance.
@@Fang1st I used Monsterverse since the lower ends for Rayquaza are comparable to MV Ghidorah and are more quantifiable.
We can also use cosmology and then Rayquaza outright clears every version of ghidorah
@@Alastordadeer Not sure what you mean by that, but most versions of King Ghidorah can travel through space at light speed.
@@Alastordadeerno, if we composite Ghidorah and use the same rules, in which we could fairly evenly scale him to a composite Godzilla ( I'd say at least a third of its power), and considering a single Godzilla can outscale the entire Pokémon multiverse, it's fair to say a composite one does, and by extension a composite Ghidorah.
@@christophermonteith2774 Nah rayquaza would still win with high end scaling, if you scale him to comp creation trio he one shots the comp verse they rule the main concepts of cosmology.
Yo awesome video my man keep up the great work hope you can reach 5k subs soon but I got a question the calc for the deoxys's meteor I did a calc myself but I only got the value to the yottatons extremely deep into the yottatons but still just large planetary and with the six mile radius it only gets to mountain level so may i please take a look at the calc
I showed it in the video. Keep in mind that the meteor was going to do more than just hit the earth, it was going to completely obliterate it. Large star comes from the amount of energy that Rayquaza would’ve needed to not only take, but push back to completely destroy the meteor the way he did, and also cancel its momentum. To cancel its momentum and completely destroy it.
@@UmbraTWolf i see
@@UmbraTWolfmaybe i was just underestimating the mass of the meteor 🤷♂️
rayquaza proved to his gigantimaxed sized opponent. that SIZE never mattered. and power. was the true factor in this battle. and even if gidorah faced a different powerhouse legend. it's safe to say. monster zero is getting owned by any godly powered legend. this monstrous storm dragon. couldn't handle. the ultimate mega pokemon.. no.. the ultimate. dragon.
the winner: is rayquaza
(fyi i loved this battle and this was just an intense battle scenario!)
Damn, Ghidorah got cooked. R.I.P. to my boy.
Destroyah vs griratina
I wanna see this
If we allow for higher scaling, this could be pretty good
Hmm yes the giant hydra lightning dragon from space or the smaller dragon that lives in almost space
Small dragon still wins
Truly amazing
Prediction: Going off of dex entries,
Rayquaza SWEEPS, but feats alone let ghidorah
win easily
Edit: i was worng
The dex is written by 10 year old kids
@eddieboston6540 it's literally written by a 70 year old scientist watch the first episode of the anime
Hmm.. The speed is a for sure, but I’m not so sure from the AP. It required an amped Godzilla to match Ghidorah which is about 2 times base Godzilla overall. GvK Godzilla is considered weaker than the Godzilla that fought Ghidorah by a lot and thats before the Kong fight.
I remember statements for it saying GvK is almost full strength as a base, but not fully. Then after that Ghidorah received a buff which damaged Godzilla so significantly all Ghidorah had to do was just pick him up and drop him. Then we get into GxK with the supercharged blue Godzilla basically being a more charged supercharge and then he evolves. Base evolved is stronger than an amped Godzilla so at least 2x which basically means base evolved = Charged Ghidorah and arguably Ghidorah is stronger but probably not by a lot. Supercharged evolved is relative to thermo which I don’t like the scaling for but its consistent. Anyways, I’m not sure how much that would change things but yeah
High end rayquaza can get to multi solar so...
@@Cherry_Zilla idk about THAT much but he could get higher. If you’re REALLYY wanking Ghidorah then you could take the “Godzilla’s atomic breath is the strongest natural phenomena” to a black hole which could place him from Star level up to galaxy level but i do NOT agree with that scaling.
Didn't Ghidorah destroy venus?
That was Showa Ghidorah not Monsterverse
I think that's Showa KingG's feats, and I don't remember if Monsterverse KingG had any planetary statement aside from the mess he made on earth
Different ghidorah
Different one. Honestly, this one's feats are just about continental, and scaling ( if we allow for the largest scaling to monster verse Godzilla, which is dubious at best) maybe universal plus. Though under that same scaling, rayquaza can still outmatch it.
Do necrozma vs godzilla earth
Video idea Blastoise (pokemon) vs jason voorhees (friday the 13th part 7)
@@Blu_slushy It mind depend on which version of Jason?
@@UmbraTWolfi havent thought of it yet ill let you choose! (Big fan :3). 😀
@@UmbraTWolf another reason i chose is cause yknow blastoise has power of water while jason hates it! Lol. :)
19:04 bad example doug sweeps the monsterverse
@@waddleboyadvance7187 of course my bad, I should have known
@@UmbraTWolf can wait till godzilla x kong infinity war where doug gets the 7 chaos emeralds and snaps his fingers
You remind me of Danco lol, W
@@MagnetoEditz I don’t think that’s a compliment? Lol
@@UmbraTWolf 🤣🤣
I honestly think that showa gihdora would be a better matchup than MV, but that's just me.
Good vid but I just don’t think rayquaza could kill ghidorha before he regenerates
To be fair if they did exist in the same universe rayquaza would act more like rodan. What I mean is rodan follows Godzilla but won’t do as he’s told, so going of by that ghidorah will control rayquaza but rayquaza will mainly do as he pleases until he’s really needed.
Rayquaza is not letting ghidorah slide because he's kinda like groudon and kyogre because he's destroying things with his hurricane like kyogre and groudon fighting
@@Cherry_Zilla yeah but ghidorah even in the monsterverse adaptation has the ability to terraform a planet with just him flapping his wings he can create storms larger than anything rayquaza can form. Honestly if we see it in a alpha system ghidorah is larger stronger faster and most likely more intelligent so putting it up against a creature that listens to a ten year old is a no brainer.
@@samuellatu3123Rayquaza can just remove weather
Mega rayquaza is stronger than primal groudon and primal kyogre but normal rayquaza isn't
@CT-7567CaptainRex6 in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire according to its lore, he was still stronger than them in base. You can check out Lockstin’s video. They do deep dives into Pokemon lore: czcams.com/video/FKS9cCoGEEE/video.htmlsi=RTXNLOmLQuuzkrwf
Why don't you use Ghidorah from manga?
Because why
@@K.Pershing because Ghidorah is stronger than Rayquaza
@@rgherobrine which manga
@@K.Pershing oh no i mean comic
@@rgherobrinecomic ghidorah still has no feats that get above high multi
Mega ray w
Bro shimo stronger than ghidorah because of the novel
@@ultravegito9497 I said at the very LEAST they would be comparable based off the designer statement. I am not saying for certain that Ghidorah is stronger.
@@UmbraTWolf okay bro but I am telling this with respect to the gxk novel
showa ghidorah:
Unrelated but yea Rayquaza can definitely beat Kaido
showa ghidorah would be overkill
Ghidorah would win
they used the weakest incarnation ghidorah 😭
Stronger than gmk and monster x and really close to kiezer
@@Cherry_Zilla oh yeah I forgot that sorry ass ghidorah existed. also, don't compare legendary to kaiser 😐
i feel like the monsterverse fanboys will be bawling their eyes out at this sight
Ghidorah would rip Rayquaza into 3 segments for each head and eat him, ghidorah is strong enough to pull category 6 hurricanes with merely his wings and gravity beams that will incinerate anything they touch, Ghidorah wins, the golden Devil.
Rayguaza Negs
Rayquza would speed blitz him
You think Ghidorah has a chance? Ha! Cute. 🤣😏
Small cartoon dragon able to be caught by humans with animals with elemental attacks vs giant 3 headed golden dragon that terraforms planets and defeats solar system busters, I like Rayquaza but this isn’t a fight, it’s breakfast
Did you forget ray can remove any weather during combat? So that would mean that there wouldn't be any type of hurricanes to began with
Bruh Rayquaza is a childish monster compared to the King lol. King Ghidorah obliterates😂
Nuh uh
Solar system level lowballed Ray quality vs an ice age victim? Yeah nah
Did you even watch the video
*LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER*
@@PeepeePoopoo1275 DRRR