Coppicing and Pollarding Willows
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- Coppicing and Pollarding Willows, Esoteric Agriculture Episode 42, Slashed Sallows. In this episode I discuss the management of Willows, Genus Salix, by Coppicing and Pollarding. Topics include Salix purpurea ‘Eugene’, Salix triandra ‘Black Maul’, Salix alba, White Willow, Salix nigra, Black Willow, Coppicing, basketry willows, living willow fences, hedges, living willow structures, hedge laying, deer damage, Pollarding, Permaculture, Silvopasture, Agroforestry, scarecrows, historic willow cultivation, bill hooks, Claude Monet, Vincent Van Gogh, Willow Ufgood, Willow Rosenberg, Witches and Wizards, willow rods, poles, Oxbow Farms, Adobe Sketch, Animation Desk, Corot, Germany, Rees, Frankish, North Rhine-Westphalia, American landscape esthetics, sapsuckers, woodpeckers, wind dispersed seed, Aspen, Poplars, Cottonwoods, controversial taxonomy and cladistics, Vermont Willow Nursery, Forestfarm, unrooted cuttings, weeping willows, Cornus sericea, complex hybrids, and level of Salicylic acid that shouldn’t be possible.
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I love how you integrate the artwork into this video. Very well-done video overall. I'm learning a lot.
Great video and what a nice gamecock at the end! This was a treat! Thank you
Great video, great music, great information, very well done.
I wanted to compliment you on your artwork. I enjoyed it. I also enjoyed your selection of other art. Great taste.
What do you do with cornus sericea? The shootings are small no?
Would love to see an update on these fedges this spring & summer!
Yes, definitely plan on that. Thanks for watching and commenting!
nice video. I too have been getting into various older style management techniques over the last several years. I'm experimenting with different tree species to see their different uses. I've experimented with traditional European hedgelaying too, I thought I was the only one in the US :p My neighbors look at me puzzled and can't understand why I bother. We have a lot of foreign trees down here in the gulf coast though. The chief offenders are Mimosas (albizzia julibrissen), Privet (Ligustrum sinese), and wisteria are really doing a number on the native varieties down here. Every one was brought in as an ornamental too. Privet is actually a great tree though. I have several that I've been coppicing (I've been taking most of them out) but I have one full sun multi-head pollard that I've managed for about 5 or 6 years now that does great. Looks great too. I usually just use the rods for kindling bundles or making charcoal. I've experimented with trying to use it for weaving crafts but it's just a bit too rigid and can't handle tight radii so it just doesn't suit it. Good for structural pieces though, I think for Irish Creel type baskets it would work fine. 200 years back if i'd have needed arrow shafts though, I'd have been good. :p
One domestic tree that I found that does realy well as a hedge is Yaupon Holly (ilex vomitorious). The natives used it for several purposes. The leaves (the very new growth leaves) are high in caffeine. They brewed it into a stodge for medicinal, religious, practices and also traded the berries which are disgusting). The issue with pleaching it is the angry grain. I've lost several pleachers while laying them, but man when it comes up as a hedge, it looks every bit the part. Long straight shoots, with laterals, and those laterals put on laterals. multitudes of small leaves. It's really dense.
Wild black cherry is another that responds well to pollarding for whips or coppicing for tool handles. I hoped it would have worked for weaving, but fails just like the Privet. Good fruit tree though. Nice deciduous tree. Shady in summer, easy to harvest wood off in winter. Huckleberry is another. We have several that wildseeded. Chickens go crazy for those damn berries. Nice rods from coppice too. I get rods off some that are 11 and 12 foot long by the end of summer and they're dead straight.
I found a weeping willow in a tree line I was going to take cuttings off it. I twisted up some of it's weepers and they made several loops without cracking so I think it would do fine as weaving material, but having seen your willow I'm a bit concerned to try it now. I was hoping for more thin rods with less diameter, but your appears to be fewer rods but thicker. Perhaps if I cut it back to multiple heads instead of one i'll achieve what i'm after. What is your opinon though? Do you see any utility in yours as a weaver source?
Hi! Thanks for taking the time to comment! I’ll try to answer as best as I can. Weeping Willows aren’t the best for weaving, but, that’s all relative. The big tree type willows are fine for coarse weaving, something like wattle walls or wattle fencing, would be fine. Fine basket weaving is better done with coppiced small shrubby willows. I wish I could grow Yaupon, I’m pretty sure it’s too cold here. Growing caffeine containing Ilex would be great. Hedge Laying has fascinated me for years. Some day I’ll try it again and get it right. It seems like you are doing some interesting experiments with the plants you have available, that’s great 👍🏻. Mimosas ( Albizia) would probably make great pasture pollards that could be ideal for tree hay/fodder production. The growth rate of them is phenomenal. I appreciate you taking the time to comment! Keep up your trials in your climate! Good luck!!
@@esotericagriculture6643 I don't see mimosas being useful for any kind of winter forage as they're deciduous. Atleast the ones here. Mimosas are funny. They are notoriously difficult to kill once established (Believe me I tried), it took me 5 seasons to kill off a mature one by burning brush near it. Other times they look fine then they just die. But they actually drop their leaves off two year old wood, or atleast wood that is old enough to have put on flowers/seeds. strange thing I noticed once. All the ones that were unpruned fruited lost their foliage, others that I had pruned back and had that seasons adventitious growth didn't. THen there's ones that I stopped pruning and now that those arms are older, they're back to shedding foliage. Another thing is it's difficult to maintain them as pollards I've found. They always want to put adventitious rods out from the base. I also don't think they create an exceptional amount of foliage anyway. It's just so highly organized and oriented that they look very dense, but there ain't much there.
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Don't forget about the medicinal value of those black cherry!
😂 can we get wizards and plants? Great info thanks
Very good video, thanks, I subscribed, looking forward to an Episode 2.
I have just planted 50 Salix viminalis myself (and 50 hazels too) for coppicing, together with 100 ash and field maples for pollarding (Brittany, France), so your experience is precious to me.
I wonder why you don't think your pollarded willow (near the end of the film) isn't just a plain Salix alba...?
this is a very interesting and troublesome topic... it was explained to me by a u.s.a. arborist that to start pollarding a heading cut was made on third year wood. this would encourage latent buds to sprout. then at intervals the watersprouts would be removed with proper pruning cuts at the branch collar. this would provide shoots and make the tree more manageable in terms of liability and dominating the infrastructure. i enjoy your approach. many people top trees at very large places, even entire trees to the trunk, not realizing the harm to the tree and resulting threat to people and property caused by uncompartmentalised wood rotting and weakly attached shoots. sorry for the rant. hope all is well and that you are still active on youtube. i am curious about grafting between shoots as a way to make panels for living structures or even lumber
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Time to pollard above deer height
Hi, great info on your channel, a video on your filter/pump free pond would be cool! what are the main take aways from the diana walstad book you mentioned when it comes to outdoor ponds?
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Regarding Walstad book and ponds, I started making sure there was good availability of calcium by adding oyster shell and pelletized lime, a handful of each, a couple times a summer, and for sure after heavy rain. Tried to have lots of fast growing stemmy plants growing in good garden loam topped by gravel, put water lilies in good garden loam topped with gravel, added fast growing aggressive emergent rooters like willow and cattails, and added floaters like duckweed. I do keep fish populations low, much lower than many would. Usually have 3-9 ordinary feeder goldfish and a few snails, minnows,mussels, crayfish in a maybe 40-60 gallon pond. Lots of frogs and tadpoles always. No algae and no work, I don’t even feed anything. I do clean it out once a year and repot plants as needed. Thanks again, will try to get a video of this sometime soon.
Very interesting video. I’m interested in coppicing willow for firewood. Do you have any experience with that?
Great information and great video, just subscribed. Can I ask once the coppicing has been done can you just stick the rods in the ground and they will just root? If so how long can they be left cut but not planted? Thanks in advance.
I doubt I have his expertise but I may be able to help.
You can cut your rods and oil them and put them in a bag with moist moss or paper. If you set these in a cool shady area they will last until the thaw but there's no need to wait to plant them.
Oiling:
Mineral oil, walnut oil and the like will work just fine. In a bucket, mix a few gallons of water with a cup or two of your chosen oil. Stir it up really well and dip your rods right in. All done! It kills any creepy bad guys lurking and "seals" in moisture.
When you are ready, just plug and play. 90% - 99% success rate. I do the same with elder.
I don't know everything. I barely know anything! If anyone can correct anything I wrote please do. I need the help and I crave the knowledge.
I feel for you brother. I have deer trouble, but I wish to get into willow growing. Could an electric fence for a year or two keep the deer away whilst the fence grows? I am primarily interested in willow to use as a medicine for my vines. Any thoughts?
I think an electric fence would work very well. They never touch certain varieties, so another option is planting types they like less.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Well done 👏🍀🌿Thank you for the presentation Have you considered some type of understory to fill the gaps at the fence You have comfrey growing under some of your willows What did you do in the end?
Yes, I definitely have. I’ve done a lot of work on the fence in the past year. I need to do an update video!
Thanks for commenting and for watching!!
@@esotericagriculture6643 👍🤗 Looking forward to it
I've got a couple basket willow cultivars I got quite a few years ago via SSE, I'm also planning on going to the NRCS plant materials site at Big Flats (March 2019 or so?) and getting some biomass willow cultivars, do you want any cuttings?
Hi! Sorry, I just now noticed this!! Yes, I’d definitely like some cuttings! I can trade you for some of the willows I have already if you want any. Msg you at HGG.
Hey this is great to see! Everyone working together, sharing, carrying about each other and the wonderful work. Thank you all for being great role models
I'm curious if coppicing or pollarding also manages the root systems? I have a pool and am wondering if I absolutely need to plant them really far away even though I'm planning to coppice or pollard them or if I can put them in about 100 ft away and be ok?
From my research it says to put the tree 50 ft away from any pipes or pools. Thing is if you swamp the area around the willow it won't need to spread its roots to find water. They only get crazy long rooots when they don't have a reliable wayter source. That's why they suggest planting them by streams or areas of the yard that flood.
Is hunting illegal where you live?
Hi,
In Brazil the Willow os a Little bit different. Do you know the biological name of the yours Willow? Thank you Very much.
Os=is
The willows we grow here are in the genus Salix. I have a lot of species but most of what’s in the video is Salix purpurea, Salix triandra, or Salix x fragilis. I hope that helps. Great to hear from a 🇧🇷. 😁 I’d like to know what willows are grown there.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Harvest the deer?
Cant You mix the willows ?
Not exactly sure what you mean,but you can plant multiple varieties in the same row or as part of the same living wall or fence. I know there is some graft compatibility between Salix species but I haven’t tried every combination to know the full extent of the possibilities.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@esotericagriculture6643 I meant about the living fence with the holes along the bottom, can you add a finer bush like willow between them ?
Yes, you could. I have gotten that fence pretty tight at this point. I did add more cuttings, but it’s also just filling in with age, pruning, training, etc. I need to make another Willow video…
@@esotericagriculture6643 Totally I would like to see how it is now :D
Regarding your hedge that needs thickinging up …Cut the hedge low down and bend over. Look up ‘English hedge laying ‘
No witches they say and start with the voynich manusscript... hmmm
XLII not XXXXII
Yes, quite right, thanks!