The World's 10 Most “Livable” Cities: Surprises and Controversies

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  • čas přidán 1. 07. 2023
  • Each year, a ranking of the world’s ten most livable cities inspires a combination of pride from people who live in those cities and confusion about how exactly those cities were deemed to be the best. The 2023 ranking recently came out and, as usual, European, Canadian, and Australian cities topped the list.
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Komentáře • 612

  • @hugocast
    @hugocast Před 10 měsíci +458

    This video convinced me that we need a “Oh The Urbanity” index of most livable towns 😊

    • @cynthash100
      @cynthash100 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Can we plot the data along a 5 point spectrum graph to compare too? :D

    • @evanchartrand6663
      @evanchartrand6663 Před 10 měsíci +13

      That channels called city nerd :)

    • @definitelynotacrab7651
      @definitelynotacrab7651 Před 10 měsíci +6

      And then they can charge the economist 10k for their data

    • @misosoppa3279
      @misosoppa3279 Před 10 měsíci

      Yes, make it happen! Start a travel budget Patron and I'll promise to chip in!

    • @Immortalcheese
      @Immortalcheese Před 10 měsíci

      They did do a top 10 urbanist cities in North America video

  • @kevley26
    @kevley26 Před 10 měsíci +236

    To be fair, I think Vienna definitely deserves a top spot. It has very good urbanism, great culture, low crime, while at the same time being incredibly affordible compared to other cities in the western world.

    • @stevemcgowen
      @stevemcgowen Před 10 měsíci +8

      Vienna is very expensive compared to central Europe...

    • @AbstractEntityJ
      @AbstractEntityJ Před 10 měsíci +2

      It has nice architecture too.

    • @simonh6371
      @simonh6371 Před 10 měsíci +63

      @@stevemcgowen Yes but it's more comparable to Western Europe - despite being east of Prague. In Western European terms rent in Vienna is dirt cheap. Also crime is very low compared to Western European capitals, and it's much cleaner and quieter.

    • @sagichnicht6748
      @sagichnicht6748 Před 10 měsíci +20

      @@stevemcgowen Let's ignore for a second that Vienna is actually in Central Europe as well, Bratislava for example has become more less as expensive, even though salaries are still not quite where they are in Vienna yet. And I think that is the point. If you calculate with local salaries cities like Prague, Krakow or Warsaw are probably not more affordable places than Vienna.
      That said, as someone from Vienna I would agree to the makers of this video. That ranking might be good for its target group, it certainly is not suitable to judge liveability of cities for common people. Yes, Vienna has a lot going for it but is it really No1 in the entire world? That would be a bit much too claim.

    • @jannetteberends8730
      @jannetteberends8730 Před 10 měsíci

      How about walkability?

  • @FGH9G
    @FGH9G Před 10 měsíci +49

    I've always disliked "city ranking" articles that major news organizations and websites like Bloomberg, Forbes, WSJ, etc. routinely publish.
    They always seem so out of touch with everyday ordinary people and their experiences, and absolutely NEVER include the perspectives of experts, urban planners, urbanists, much less CZcams urbanists, or even people who even live in those cities. Not to mention, they're almost always written from the perspective of transit-hostile, or transit-unfamiliar people who drive or are driven everywhere.

    • @anubizz3
      @anubizz3 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Transit hostile WTF are you talking about, urbanist or should I said cyclists channel that hostile to transit.... Even amsterdam residents bealive public transport hindering their bike infrastructure..
      Even the reality are they fail to reduce car dependancy which they have 588 per 100 people compare to public transport oriented city/country like Singapore and Hong Kong...

    • @followengland_ballsonig2938
      @followengland_ballsonig2938 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@anubizz3where are you getting at brozzer

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 10 měsíci +1

      "Much less CZcams urbanists"? Most of those are just "cars bad, bikes/trains good"... they have absolutely no qualifications to rank cities in all their different components. As faulty as these rankings are, if left to some of those CZcams "urbanists" the cities would be ranked by total length of bike lanes. This channel rises a bit above that as does City Beautiful.

    • @followengland_ballsonig2938
      @followengland_ballsonig2938 Před 10 měsíci

      @@anubizz3i live in singapore and there’s stroads everywhere

    • @followengland_ballsonig2938
      @followengland_ballsonig2938 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@soundscape26 but cars are bad

  • @pbilk
    @pbilk Před 10 měsíci +58

    In other words, this report is not for the average person and should almost mean nothing to the average person unless you work for these big companies.

    • @mikatu
      @mikatu Před 10 měsíci +2

      Wrong. This ranking is manipulated for marketing purposes but the conclusions have no meaning to anyone.
      Companies use it just to justify their work, but they don't need to do any of this.
      This also do it for salary bands every year but it is just useless work that could be done every 2 or 3 years and lead to the same results.

    • @moonmc1047
      @moonmc1047 Před 6 měsíci +1

      But this city wage is high for the cost of living. I live in Sydney working in the factory with no qualifications and still have money to travel to Europe every year.

    • @tl8211
      @tl8211 Před měsícem +1

      @@mikatu This kind of number aggregation with randomly assigned weights has a very limited utility ceiling: my mom could come up with an equally good list. Plus the need to categorize criteria actually makes this kind of thing worse than random guesses, because you always end up missing something. For example, the kind of professional this list is built only knows English, so Vienna (where most, but not all people are fluent in English, and where at least some administrative hurdles will be harder in English) will inevitably be less livable than Vancouver for them. That's apart from factors like nightlife, climate, etc... which also will be far more important to most young professionals than whether the place has the best hospitals around or just good ones.

  • @TheOnyxGemini
    @TheOnyxGemini Před 10 měsíci +86

    Hello, I live in Watertown, MA, a suburb of Boston. I wanted to tell you about the abhorrent transit situation that the nearby city of Lynn has found itself in. The city has been building more densely around its commuter rail station, however, the MBTA has closed the station due to the disrepair of the building, even though it was built in 1991. A new station will not be done until 2030, which is absolutely ridiculous.
    The city has urged the MBTA to build a temporary platform, which will take 12-18 months. Otherwise, they have to take a shuttle bus to Swampscot for the commuter rail or a shuttle to Revere for the Blue Line, which will take a long amount of time during rush hour. It's ridiculous that Lynn, which is the same distance to Boston and Brooklyn is to Manhattan, has no accessible transit to get to Boston. This is compounded by the fact of the large Latino and Black population in Lynn. This has also caused economic problems as building contractors to have densified around the station will suffer since young commuters will not move in without transit. This has led to a grocery store cancelling its plan to move into one of the buildings. I wanted to spread the news about this. If you want to see the full article, it's in the June 25th Boston Globe written by Joan Vennochi.

    • @aneyelesspig8899
      @aneyelesspig8899 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Hey, I'm sorry, but I do not understand what the latino and black people have to do here. Please explain

    • @TheOnyxGemini
      @TheOnyxGemini Před 10 měsíci +18

      ​@@aneyelesspig8899 Lynn has a large latino and black population, but has been screwed over when it comes to infrastructure. it forces those who my not have a car, but work in the Boston area to go through a prolonged commute, that's not good. as well as new businesses and development not coming to downtown Lynn, do to lack of access.

    • @sachemofboston3649
      @sachemofboston3649 Před 9 měsíci +1

      The MBTA is a joke. And the fact that Boston has one of the best public transportation systems in the US is even worse..

    • @aneyelesspig8899
      @aneyelesspig8899 Před 9 měsíci

      @@TheOnyxGemini thanks

  • @NoctLightCloud
    @NoctLightCloud Před 10 měsíci +17

    I'm Austrian and I our capital city is cheap compared to our avg salaries. It's safe, clean, and beautiful.

    • @Danji_Coppersmoke
      @Danji_Coppersmoke Před 10 měsíci

      really? I google it and median house value to annual wage is like ~20 (means house worth 20yr wage). That is quite expansive. US is

    • @j.a.1721
      @j.a.1721 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes the system with public housing seems to work pretty well to keep rents at a relatively affordable rate, even if owning is not an option for most people. Also public transportation and walkability is great, I go there regularly and never have any issues getting around without a car. And even if you are not a wealthy expat, the social security in this country is really good, I don't think a lot of countries offer more. Not sure if Vienna is really the most liveable city but it certainly is a very liveable city.

    • @NoctLightCloud
      @NoctLightCloud Před 10 měsíci

      @@Danji_Coppersmoke yeah but we usually don't live alone, so more than 1 wage can help boost that period to

    • @NoctLightCloud
      @NoctLightCloud Před 10 měsíci

      @@j.a.1721 agree 100%! I myself wouldn't like to live in Vienna cause I don't feel safe there sometimes (as a goodlooking girl, you get attention from the wrong guys - I feel much safer in Budapest, Prague, Bratislava, Kopenhagen, or Belgrade), but otherwise it checks loads of points.

    • @j.a.1721
      @j.a.1721 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Danji_Coppersmoke owning is not as common here. From what I have heard after the second world war a lot of focus was on building housing relatively cheap and fast, so there was more focus on apartment buildings. And now the rental market is pretty good, with the city owning a lot of properties, so social housing is not just for poor people, but also middle class people. The quality of those rentals is also pretty good, I have heard that is not necessarily the case in the US. And there are legal protections for renter etc. So it is difficult to compare the housing markets like that because there are so many factors.

  • @CLMBRT
    @CLMBRT Před 10 měsíci +38

    I knew people would shit on Calgary. I've lived in both Montreal and Calgary is clear:) It's not only about cool urbanities, food trucks and bike lanes (and Calgary has a worldclass bike system). Calgary built an inclusive city, where families can thrive, young people afford a house and old people retire in peace with a nice view on the mountains :D

    • @idk-xj6wv
      @idk-xj6wv Před 10 měsíci +8

      Calgary is plain and boringg

    • @ellingtonhausfogel3478
      @ellingtonhausfogel3478 Před 10 měsíci +11

      what are you talking about. as someone who's also spend many years in both, i can tell you that calgary is not at all what you're saying. a house with a mountain view is nearly 1mil these days. calgary has one of the worst transit systems in canada that intensifies the already awful exclusivity produced by the sprawl. and how are you going to say calgary has a worldclass bike system when literally you need to take a 4lane 70km/h road to go anywhere. not to mention that the city is filled with literal alt-right separtists and depraved oil and gas tycoons.

    • @Peglegkickboxer
      @Peglegkickboxer Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@idk-xj6wvToronto and Vancouver are even more boring, you can't do anything because it costs too much.

    • @kaito-fukasejam8387
      @kaito-fukasejam8387 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@Peglegkickboxer lmao what. youve obviously never been to both, the parks are free, museums and stuff are not much, tf are you

    • @Peglegkickboxer
      @Peglegkickboxer Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@kaito-fukasejam8387 lived in Vancouver for half a decade before I moved to YYC then to Gdansk. The parks get old quick, food and going out is very expensive especially with how you lose your extra cash to the high rent and fuel prices. The sea wall is terribly boring, it's just an empty footpath. Go to Europe and even Halifax to see how fun a sea wall is, stores, restaurants, activity centers everywhere, the whole city goes out there. YYC also has tons of hiking since the mountains are like 40 minutes away, lots of restaurants, and you get way more spare cash to spend after rent.

  • @lizcademy4809
    @lizcademy4809 Před 10 měsíci +48

    Back in the early 1990s (pre-Web) there was a paper book, Places Rated Almanac. It covered 350+ metro areas in the USA, and rated them on various livability factors. My then-husband and I found it very useful, but not complete.
    For example, they scored highest the areas with very even, moderate climates - if I remember, San Francisco was #1 for climate. I prefer a 4 season climate and cold, snowy winters - I prefer Minneapolis weather to San Francisco! We also had other criteria that was not in the book (New York Times delivery, a good traditional bagel store).
    In the long run, it's good that there's no ONE best city ... or it would be overrun with everyone trying to move there.

  • @ActiveTowns
    @ActiveTowns Před 10 měsíci +11

    Thank you so much for decoding this perplexing livability index. This explains so much. 😊👍

  • @mboatrightED300
    @mboatrightED300 Před 10 měsíci +3

    This was extremely informative, thank you!

  • @wiesorix
    @wiesorix Před 10 měsíci +7

    Great video! Very interesting to see how the agenda of the company making this list shpaes its outcomes, not something I would've thought of myself.

  • @polishtheday
    @polishtheday Před 10 měsíci +52

    Thank you for explaining what’s behind the Economist’s liveable cities ranking. Every year a Canadian magazine publishes a “Best Cities for …” list. I’ve usually disagreed with their choice and have lived in a city that made the list one year. I hated the place. When I looked into some of the criteria they used to come up with the scores it was things like household income and the number of new cars owned in the city.

    • @stever2583
      @stever2583 Před 10 měsíci

      Nonsense... Magazine studies do not count.

    • @polishtheday
      @polishtheday Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@stever2583 They do to some people making decisions about where to live or invest. I’m not 100% certain but I think the magazine was Moneysense. Or it may have been McLeans.
      These surveys aren’t that useful if they aren’t based on what’s important to you. When I was looking for a place to move to I did my own research, narrowed it down to five places based on my own criteria - number of universities, public transit, train service to other cities, green space - and used that to create a decision matrix. Vancouver, Montreal and Ottawa came out on top. Vancouver was number one for green space, Montreal for universities and train service. Ottawa lost points for rapid transit because it didn’t exist back then. I’d probably expand the criteria if I was to do it again.

    • @BDee3126
      @BDee3126 Před 10 měsíci

      What city was that place?

    • @polishtheday
      @polishtheday Před 10 měsíci

      @@BDee3126 Abbotsford, B.C. Some of the smaller villages around it like Matsqui Village and Clayburn were nice though.
      I’ve also visited one in Quebec, Brossard just south of Montreal, that made the list a few years back that doesn’t impress me. Its major mall is mostly parking lot. There’s a whole subdivision of monstrous identical houses pretending to be mansions in one part of town. You can’t walk to the store or take shortcuts because of dead end crescents and many streets don’t have sidewalks. It made the list because incomes were high there that year. It’s suburban hell.

    • @wcjerky
      @wcjerky Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@polishtheday Clayburn has a history, however, with historic buildings. Don't know if I could say that about Abbotsford.

  • @jasonarthurs3885
    @jasonarthurs3885 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Comprehensive breakdown and analysis; ty.

  • @KJSvitko
    @KJSvitko Před 10 měsíci +116

    Cities need to do more to encourage people to ride bicycles. Safe protected bike lanes and trails are needed so adults and children can ride safely. Speak up for bicycles in your community. Bicycles make life and cities better. Ask your local transportation planner and elected officials to support more protected bike lanes and trails. Children should be riding a bicycle to school and not be driven in a minivan.

    • @Windwond
      @Windwond Před 10 měsíci +13

      I live in Warsaw and they put in a lot of bike lanes just 4 years ago and immediately the ridership exponentially increased. We have bike traffic jams now. It doesn’t take much to convince people not to drive.

    • @anubizz3
      @anubizz3 Před 10 měsíci

      Public transport..... You want kids have complete safe environments to ride a bike? Go to bike riding park.. 😂

    • @jph2k23
      @jph2k23 Před 10 měsíci +19

      @@anubizz3public transit and bike infrastructure work in tandem. And no you should be able to bike in a city, it’s much more efficient and practical for many trips. You can still drive when you need to however.

    • @anubizz3
      @anubizz3 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@jph2k23 Public transport and bike never worked in tandom..... How many bike you could being in train, trams and bus? Wait you say free parking in both in the start and in the end of public transport route? Isn't it defeat the purpose of removing car parking? How about city that master the public transport like Singapore and Hong Kong? How much car their citizens have hmm 144 and 108 per 1000.. Lets see how much bike utopian country 58............? Oh shit it's 588....
      Great city with public transport do not need dedicated bikeline because people can just bloddy walk...

    • @mchouseboat3405
      @mchouseboat3405 Před 10 měsíci +12

      @@anubizz3aaaand we have another 0 knowledge comment🤣

  • @SnapDash
    @SnapDash Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for this!
    I've always been curious as to what builds into that list is, and now I know

  • @amac2612
    @amac2612 Před 10 měsíci +16

    yeah spot on. there have been lots of stories of late of people who are now doing bedshare in sydney just to survive. Rents are so high that the are paying 50% of the room rent to share a bed. Usually one will be working during the day and the other has night job.

    • @curiousnomadic
      @curiousnomadic Před 10 měsíci +1

      Governments need to crack down on land owners and do it hard and soon.

    • @moonmc1047
      @moonmc1047 Před 6 měsíci

      Bullshit! I live in Sydney working full-time in the factory with no qualifications and still have money to travel to Europe every year. Rent is expensive but the wage is high also. Unless you work in the restaurant with low rate cash maybe you be struggling.

  • @rustyshackleford9498
    @rustyshackleford9498 Před 10 měsíci +12

    Antwerp is featured HEAVILY in this one and I love it. Antwerp has been my favorite city I've ever visited.

  • @humanecities
    @humanecities Před 10 měsíci +10

    3:49 I walked down this exact street! It was way busier than this and there were 2 Italian guys yelling at each other from across the street 😂

  • @j.s.7335
    @j.s.7335 Před 10 měsíci

    Excellent video. Who's the audience/what purpose is the ranking meant to serve is a really critical point, yet one I hadn't considered.

  • @VulcanLogic
    @VulcanLogic Před 10 měsíci +3

    Been a good week between you, notjustikes, adam something, citybeautiful, and citynerd.

  • @Maxime_K-G
    @Maxime_K-G Před 10 měsíci +3

    Y'all went to Antwerp huh? 😆 This is a very interesting video on a list that has always confused me. I love your objective content, keep it up guys!

  • @HowToMakeDinner
    @HowToMakeDinner Před 10 měsíci +25

    I’m in Toronto this weekend for my first visit since 2007. I’m pretty impressed with the bike share here! The TTC has always been super easy and smooth, but the bikes (and bike lanes) add a whole new super fun option for getting around. It’s almost enough to make me want to live here again!

    • @jeanbolduc5818
      @jeanbolduc5818 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Montreal has the best subway and public transport and ranking in the world for biking , sustainability, , safe, canadian capital of culture , best food , best night life in Canada ... a copy of New York but safe and clean

    • @zigzag00
      @zigzag00 Před 10 měsíci

      @@jeanbolduc5818 montreal isnt a copy of new york at all lmao that is not a compliment

    • @asuhdude3510
      @asuhdude3510 Před 10 měsíci +1

      TTC being smooth and easy lol. I remember when I was 16 I just went on my first date with a girl and we were travelling back to her house on the TTC and I was stabbed graciously by a homeless gentleman.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jeanbolduc5818 Lmao no it doesn't, that goes to Copenhagen or Amsterdam. Montreal doesn't even come close, but it's decent for NA standards.

  • @justintownsend4555
    @justintownsend4555 Před 10 měsíci +2

    would love to see your guys own top 10

  • @alexhaowenwong6122
    @alexhaowenwong6122 Před 10 měsíci +9

    I like the Mercer Quality of Living index better--more factors were evaluated across more cities than in the EIU report. Unfortunately it ceased publication in 2019.
    Singapore was the only Asian city to ever crack the top 30.

  • @hugocast
    @hugocast Před 10 měsíci +9

    In my opinion, cost of living is part of quality of life. If every household around me needs to make € 100K to afford owning their home and a comfortable lifestyle, I find it reduces the social diversity of the place and only people in tech/law/banking/entrepreneurship can truly thrive in those places.
    I prefer to live in a smaller community with much lower CoL where people in the arts can live.

    • @harrypotcha0283
      @harrypotcha0283 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Unless they work 12 hours a day or experience severe burn out because of stress at work

    • @hugocast
      @hugocast Před 10 měsíci

      @@harrypotcha0283 Agreed 👍🏼

    • @DefenestrateYourself
      @DefenestrateYourself Před 10 měsíci

      Most people in the arts prefer larger cities to reach larger audiences and make their work tenable

    • @hugocast
      @hugocast Před 10 měsíci

      @@DefenestrateYourself Depends. I know comedians that live in medium sized cities and travel for gigs and graphic designers that live in big cities and have clients globally. Like everything in life, it depends ;)

  • @Vromiaris778
    @Vromiaris778 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Be it as it may… Vienna is one of my top 3 cities I’d love to live in (Amsterdam & Ghent vying for that same spot) and I have my favorites that pull me to each one, but I wouldn’t hesitate to move there if an opportunity arose.

  • @bentrig9128
    @bentrig9128 Před 10 měsíci +4

    "No offense to Calgary, but how is Montreal not the other Canadian city on the list" - I know that Calgary isn't exactly an urbanist's dream city, but these kind of dismissive comments from Ontarians are infuriating. Calgary has a lot to offer and punches well above it's weight on a ton of metrics. Yes it's car centric, but for a city that was mostly built after the 1950s, it's not horrible and has made a ton of "urbanist" planning decisions you just don't find in peer cities. I love Montreal and it deserves recognition for what it offers, but the incredulity that anyone could possibly prefer Calgary is irksome to say the list.

    • @OhTheUrbanity
      @OhTheUrbanity  Před 10 měsíci

      I can't believe you dismissively assumed that I'm from Ontario!

    • @bentrig9128
      @bentrig9128 Před 10 měsíci

      @@OhTheUrbanity Haha touché, but the rest of the point still stands. You didn't have to do Calgary dirty like that

  • @odo324
    @odo324 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Nice! City Nerd shout-out! Urbanists unite!

  • @JoshuaHeagleDev
    @JoshuaHeagleDev Před 10 měsíci +1

    This was a very interesting revelation. Assessing the target of these ratings really explains the full picture.
    For myself, as a software developer I can expect the highest salary by living in the Toronto area (within Canada). And there would be even higher salary options were I to move to the US. There are many other places in the world I would certainly enjoy living, but if I were to be paid outside of the US and Canada the salary expectations would be lower.
    Now, some might say that the cost of living could be cheaper, but as highlighted in the previous video about housing in the Netherlands, we can see that it is comparable to housing in the Toronto area.

  • @RossSpeirs
    @RossSpeirs Před 10 měsíci +20

    I grew up in Calgary and it’s fine but I’m always surprised when Calgary ranks so high on these lists…
    I’m happy here in a smaller community on Vancouver Island, though.

    • @kkjjqrysdgadff7782
      @kkjjqrysdgadff7782 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Calgary looks great on paper and the people making this list haven't actually been to any of the cities. On paper it looks like a city without significant flaws; affordable, outdoorsy, not the most horrific weather. The reality is a dull, empty city with bizarrely fluctuating weather and no nature of any note until you drive 2 hours away.

    • @debuthunter5389
      @debuthunter5389 Před 7 měsíci

      @@kkjjqrysdgadff7782 - Agreed. For the most part, you could definitely have called it an "underrated" city compared to other Canadian cities, but it is a lifeless city. Sure, it is a 1.5 hour drive from the mountains, but in terms of "city life" it lacks. Public transit isn't great. Cycle and walkability is poor.

  • @extrastuff9463
    @extrastuff9463 Před 8 měsíci

    That's an interesting overview of the methodology behind those and what they are actually for. I have seen those lists at times in the past and always considered them to be a bit odd in some ways but never cared enough to actually look into it, just stopped reading and moved on.

  • @ZOG_EXTERMINATOR
    @ZOG_EXTERMINATOR Před 10 měsíci +10

    I lived in 2 of the worlds 10 most livable cities.
    Toronto and Greater Vancouver.
    The lower mainland was the best place I’ve ever lived

    • @314159vedic
      @314159vedic Před 10 měsíci +1

      I grew up in Burnaby. I loved living there.

    • @curiousnomadic
      @curiousnomadic Před 10 měsíci +1

      God you gotta visit Europe someday. Toronto livable? I live hours from there and maybe 25 years ago but now there is so much violence there. Fights break out on the streets.

    • @ZOG_EXTERMINATOR
      @ZOG_EXTERMINATOR Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@curiousnomadic I was talking about greater Vancouver
      (aka the “lower mainland”)
      being the best place I ever lived. Not Toronto!

    • @debuthunter5389
      @debuthunter5389 Před 7 měsíci

      The price tag is way too high though now. Amazing place, but housing and homelessness have ravaged its greatness.

  • @TheTakenKing999
    @TheTakenKing999 Před 10 měsíci +5

    The thing is when I see Toronto on a 'most livable city' list and not Montreal, it makes me question the entire list regardless of whether I watched this video or not lol

    • @MartinNikolov01
      @MartinNikolov01 Před 10 měsíci +1

      People from Montreal are dying of anger that Toronto is more developed, bigger, richer and more everything than Montreal

  • @udishomer5852
    @udishomer5852 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Its a list of "The most livable cities for highly paid expats".
    Nothing to do with how it is for regular residents who make local salaries, use public transportation, public schools and public healthcare.

  • @eCitaroFan
    @eCitaroFan Před 10 měsíci +33

    So basically the global livability index is basically meaningless

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 10 měsíci +5

      It's not. Would you prefer to live in one of the top 10 cities or one of the bottom 10?

    • @stevemcgowen
      @stevemcgowen Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@soundscape26 I wouldn't live in any of the cities on this top 10 list...

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@stevemcgowen Picky. Unless you are more of the rural type in which case I understand.

    • @stevemcgowen
      @stevemcgowen Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@soundscape26 No, I like cities, but wouldn't live in any of these. Prague is my #1- I have a flat in Prague I love the city and country so much. I also like Brno, Utrecht, Bratislava, Lviv, Wroclow, Florenc, Tallinn, Vilnius, Gdansk, Amsterdam... These would make my list of livable cities, vs any on the list...

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@stevemcgowen Ok, fair enough. Your criteria is your criteria.

  • @benjaminmaas4108
    @benjaminmaas4108 Před 10 měsíci +27

    Economist is an english language publication (also quite patriotic towards the UK in their reporting on the EU and its economy) - they always prioritize english language, thats why its predictably always 50% US/Canada/Australia in the list. So Paris and Montreal are out, not sure why Amsterdam is out though, they speak english just fine in the netherlands.

    • @mx2000
      @mx2000 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Paris would obviously never be near the top of the list.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Some people claim Amsterdam is not even the best city in the Netherlands, so...

    • @TheWolfXCIX
      @TheWolfXCIX Před 10 měsíci

      Paris wouldn't be anywhere near regardless it's a fucking dump

    • @Dave_Sisson
      @Dave_Sisson Před 10 měsíci

      @@mx2000 Paris isn't exactly peaceful with near constant riots. While it's probably not as dangerous as most cities in the United States, it's not a tranquil haven either.

    • @debuthunter5389
      @debuthunter5389 Před 7 měsíci

      @@soundscape26 - That would probably be The Hague. Amsterdam now too busy and overpriced, and has higher crime than the other cities (still low though).

  • @ThalassTKynn
    @ThalassTKynn Před 10 měsíci +2

    There should be an urbanist (and/or solarpunk) focussed list. I wonder if that could be crowdsourced or something?

  • @colinmccann5189
    @colinmccann5189 Před 10 měsíci +14

    I have to say, as someone who moved to Calgary from Vancouver, and has visited or spent extended amounts of time in many of the other cities on this list, Calgary's position is actually fair. Some people think of it as not very green because they don't see as many trees, but that's because we're on the edge of a very dry prairie. There is actually a ton of public outdoors space all around. Same thing goes for other amenities like schools, restaurants, and healthcare. The city's transportation infrastructure is car dependent relative to other cities on the list but the neighbourhoods themselves almost always are more or less complete. Plus it's actually affordable to live here, as well as being safe and clean, which are things Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal are all backsliding on. I feel Calgary almost always gets discounted for some kind of qualitative bias that people aren't willing to acknowledge. Once you drop that you realize it's a lot more urbanist than you think.

    • @dbjowett
      @dbjowett Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks for your input.
      I am considering these two cities when moving back to Canada from Asia.

    • @stever2583
      @stever2583 Před 10 měsíci +2

      One might say cheap to live in Calgary... But it is in no way comparable to Toronto or Vancouver. There is no green other than the rather plain jane parks and attractions. Why not plant trees down boulevards, alongside sidewalks, any area that could use a bit of cooling and visual pleasantry. Because its Calgary... How long would the trees last? someone would chop them down for firewood, run them over in their pickup, pile the ice and snow on it in winter. I lived there for 3 years - longest three years of my life!

    • @act_sion
      @act_sion Před 10 měsíci

      I was impressed by Calgary . But for me it lacks a " je ne sais quoi" . A big to young to have a real charm and indentity

  • @pneudmatic
    @pneudmatic Před 10 měsíci +11

    I was born in BC near Vancouver and lived there until I was an adult, but I've lived most of my life since then back and forth between East Asia and Alberta. If I went back to Canada I could buy a nice townhouse in an urban/walkable area of Calgary and go on at least two large vacations a year - not for the same price as living in Vancouver. I have a fairly high salary, but anything in Vancouver would be financially unattainable without subjecting myself to grinding poverty after the cost of buying and I'd still likely have to commute. There are nice places there, but thanks, I'll just go out to visit.

    • @stever2583
      @stever2583 Před 10 měsíci +3

      If your money means more than quality of life - have at it... I live in North Vancouver - sure it's expensive but we have very few issues. Yes I could live almost anywhere in Canada for much less - but it would not be North Vancouver, Greater Vancouver, or British Columbia... That is worth much more than finances!

    • @TanNguyen-iv5yh
      @TanNguyen-iv5yh Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@stever2583 Keeping being a slave with that mindset

    • @stever2583
      @stever2583 Před 10 měsíci

      @@TanNguyen-iv5yh At 72 years - I believe I've learned a thing or two. I have been to no other country with the exception of Denmark that delivers the quality of life that Canada does. Then its purely natural beauty and nature... Nature we still have - in spite of the immigrants who ignore the Law and try to steal it all regularly! Particularly the seafood!

    • @Peglegkickboxer
      @Peglegkickboxer Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@stever2583my quality of life severely dropped in Vancouver. Yeah it's such a pretty city with nice weather and the most diverse food but I couldn't afford to go out much, I had to constantly grind and work as did everyone around me which made the city feel so empty, boring, and lonely.

    • @stever2583
      @stever2583 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Peglegkickboxer I'm sorry that your experience was not positive in Vancouver. It is a very expensive city ( even on the world stage) to live in, that we can all agree on. But , If one partook in the economic realities of life in a city, one could get on the roller coaster that is the property ladder and expand their reach to partake in the wonder that is the city of Vancouver. I grew up in North Vancouver, and I was fortunate that I chose a decent career when young to allow the purchase of a home in North Vancouver after saving for a few years. That is all it took! Yes I am fortunate, but most of my school friends all did quite well by staying in North Vancouver. We missed out on the big city issues of gangs, crime, poverty induced issues, and even the drug culture issues. I am sorry that many will read this and see me as privileged and spoiled. Not true... my parents had basic jobs barely above the average wage in Canada. I was fortunate in that my early career working for others allowed me to save and buy a home that inflation grew to ridiculous levels. I was not married, I had little furniture, I rented rooms to friends as they needed, and I renovated twice to increase the value of my home.

  • @brankocollin
    @brankocollin Před 10 měsíci +18

    LOL, 6 Anglo-Saxon cities. "World" as in "World Series," I guess.

    • @bobbobato
      @bobbobato Před 10 měsíci +4

      "Anglo-Saxon"? Have you ever even been to Canada or Australia?

  • @MikesGoogleAcct
    @MikesGoogleAcct Před 10 měsíci +22

    I live in Toronto. It is a great city to explore the multicultural neighbourhoods. The summer is full of events; during winter, there are many opportunities to be socially active. I often travel to the US and am happy to get home to a city that is organized and cohesive (Good sidewalks, safe intersections, and no worries about wandering into the wrong areas). It’s expensive but worth it.

    • @bitcoinisfreedommoney.fckt2663
      @bitcoinisfreedommoney.fckt2663 Před 10 měsíci

      mUlTiCuLutRaL

    • @Richard-nd8km
      @Richard-nd8km Před 10 měsíci

      Most people who live in Toronto like myself would agree the city is a mess. Out of control development with little planning for the future, declining infrastructure, terrible public transit, gridlock, ongoing gun violence, unaffordable housing and rents - the list goes on and on.. The events you refer to are mediocre at best. How could you be so unaware?

  • @kingrobin6582
    @kingrobin6582 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I see a lot of clips made in Antwerp. Is there going to be a video about this Belgian city?

  • @ChrisPollitt
    @ChrisPollitt Před 10 měsíci +8

    From Sage AI:
    The Economist's annual ranking of the 10 Most Livable Cities is based on a range of factors, including stability, healthcare, culture and environment, education, and infrastructure. However, if we were to give a higher weighting to housing affordability, the list of the most livable cities might look different.
    Here are the top 10 most livable cities in the world when housing affordability is given a higher weighting:
    1. Montreal, Canada
    2. Melbourne, Australia
    3. Helsinki, Finland
    4. Vienna, Austria
    5. Adelaide, Australia
    6. Calgary, Canada
    7. Auckland, New Zealand
    8. Perth, Australia
    9. Oslo, Norway
    10. Zurich, Switzerland
    These cities have been chosen based on their relatively high scores in the other categories that make up the livability index, as well as their relatively affordable housing markets. However, it's important to note that livability is a subjective concept, and what makes a city livable can vary greatly depending on individual preferences and needs.

    • @ChrisPollitt
      @ChrisPollitt Před 10 měsíci +2

      From Claude+ AI
      Here is my ranking of the top 10 most livable and affordable cities in the world:
      1. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia - Very affordable cost of living, growing economy, tropical climate.
      2. Taipei, Taiwan - Affordable, convenient public transit, universal healthcare, modern infrastructure.
      3. Prague, Czech Republic - Cheap cost of living, charming cityscape, historical architecture, strong social welfare system.
      4. Singapore - Low tax rates, low crime, prestigious education and healthcare systems despite affordability.
      5. Tokyo, Japan - Low cost of living relative to other global cities, efficient infrastructure, cultural richness.
      6. Barcelona, Spain - Great weather, coastal setting, strong public services and work-life balance at a reasonable cost of living.
      7. Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam - Ultra-low costs of living and rent, historical charm, growing job market attracting ex-pats.
      8. Bangkok, Thailand - Also an extremely affordable megacity with reasonably modern infrastructure and amenities.
      9. Budapest, Hungary - Architectural beauty, natural scenery along the Danube, and Soviet-era public services available at very low costs.
      10. Medellin, Colombia - Once notorious but now a safe, affordable city with innovative public transit, outdoor activities and nightlife.
      This is my view based on weighing costs of living, basic infrastructure and amenities, safety, job opportunities, desirable climate, and other livability factors that would appeal to both locals and expatriates with a range of income levels. Please let me know if you would like me to clarify or modify my ranking and criteria in any way. I can also provide more details on each of these cities if needed.

    • @stever2583
      @stever2583 Před 10 měsíci +3

      One could also state that if housing prices are low... there might be some very real problems that are over looked. Perhaps a dying town, no prospects for decent wages, no infrastructure, Those issues can be be found globally. Towns either move with the times or stagnate. Cheap towns have, in almost all examples stagnated.

    • @pritapp788
      @pritapp788 Před 10 měsíci

      Baffling to see Auckland there, it's known to have a big housing shortage and crisis. But indeed that Top 10 would make more sense.

  • @hobonomad1928
    @hobonomad1928 Před 10 měsíci +11

    Here's the thing. I live in Toronto but have lived in NYC and Berlin. I am OK with a city being expensive as long as it gives something back. Toronto gives nothing back, it only takes. It has no character, it's ugly, boring, overcrowded and never ever takes a break to just relax. It is always growing in the wrong way. Too bad really, in the 80's it really was considered a world class city. To place this at #9 tells us of who lives there. If you come from a place that has one of the lowest standards of living in the world (African countries, India, China, Iran, Afghanistan etc...) then Toronto is heaven. But if you are over 50 and were born and raised here then you will hate what it has become.

    • @MartinNikolov01
      @MartinNikolov01 Před 10 měsíci +1

      You are free to leave

    • @hobonomad1928
      @hobonomad1928 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@MartinNikolov01 Free to leave is the only thing free in this city, plans are made already for departure next year.

    • @ShnNar1000x
      @ShnNar1000x Před 10 měsíci

      You sound kind of racist, to be honest.

  • @davestvwatching2408
    @davestvwatching2408 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I would love a list of best towns with only around 20000 people that can be lived in if the only income you have is US social security.

  • @mahlonrhoades4509
    @mahlonrhoades4509 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I've always wondered how they came up with the rankings. I live in #3 (Melbourne), have lived in #4 (Sydney) and spend part of the year in #2 (Copenhagen). I've also visited most of the rest on the list. If you're in Copenhagen in January, you'll be wondering about the rankings as well. Lots of good things to say about all of these cities but things aren't always so clear cut at street level as they are on paper.

    • @nuxxdk
      @nuxxdk Před 10 měsíci +2

      Copenhagen native here… I can appreciate that people accustomed to warmer climates consider our winters rough. But to most Danes the dark months are a special time where cozy socialising indoors is especially prioritised… you could say the season presents a common struggle that unites us, strengthens our social ties overall. I honestly think this aspect of life contributes to the relative stability and egalitarian nature of Nordic societies… we’re annually reminded of our codependency. It may take more than a few months or even years living here to really appreciate that for what it is.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Před 10 měsíci +2

      Copenhagen native here too. Love January. It's nice to have actual seasons and changing daylight, gives a sense of progression in life. Granted it's not for everyone, especially if you didn't grow up with it, but it's subjective. The city itself is what matters, and it's a fantastic place to live. So much freedom of choice here with how you want to live and how you go about your daily life. Haven't experienced this anywhere else.

    • @pritapp788
      @pritapp788 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@Real_MisterSir It's not about being "accustomed to warmer climates" or "seasons", the real issues are:
      -It's absolutely unexciting to spend time outdoors when it's cold and dark most of the year, unless you love covering yourself under 5-6 layers of clothing
      -Spending time indoors socialising is great once in a while, not when you have to do it 4-5 months and become sedentary as a result
      -More than the cold, the darkness and early sunsets is the most depressing element. I mean depressing in the literal sense, because lack of exposure to natural light is an actual cause of depression in areas like northern Europe.

    • @Real_MisterSir
      @Real_MisterSir Před 10 měsíci

      @@pritapp788 it very much depends on lifestyle. There is no scientific credited study linking lack of exposure to sunlight as a higher cause of depression than the alternative.
      Now there may be merit to it if you are not accustomed to the less exposure to sunlight in the winter months and suddenly have to live here for an extended period and your body isn't coping well, as in that case there is reason to hypothesize that any significant change to one's accustomed environment may carry the risk of causing a degree of depression regardless of what said cause may be.
      And also just adding in here for general context, statistics such as "Denmark has highest quantity of anti-depressants sold in the world" is always misquoted and can't be used as evidence for such statement - since term of what an anti-depressant is, is not an international agreement. For example, common Vitamin D supplement is by some countries grouped with anti-depressants when statistically registered, even though on its own it has nothing to do with it, it's like any other vitamin supplement.

    • @diannehogan7605
      @diannehogan7605 Před 10 měsíci

      Since you have lived or spent lots of time in those 3 cities, can you see any difference in 'liveability' between them, especially Melbourne vs Sydney? (There's a lot of rivalry between those two cities.)

  • @samkoster9547
    @samkoster9547 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I live in East Village Calgary and find its great for being able to enjoy the out doors. The city is not with out its issues. The cities communities thrive off their relationship to the Bow and Elbow river, fish creek park, nose hill park and the Glenmore reservoir. For a city that is pretty sprawling there is a good chunk of green space. The public transit is ok, its not great and its technically improving so we will see how that works out in the future. I think what really attracts people to Calgary is its proximity to its natural surroundings. 2 hours from excellent winter and summer activities. With that comes the need for cars to transport yourself into the mountains. So it would make sense that Calgary never becomes a cycling, walkable paradise because people will always see a need for personal transportation. However the small communities that make up the city are creating their own ways to make their neighborhood's more walkable.

    • @wiegraf9009
      @wiegraf9009 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Calgary is such a 6/10 city. The dependence on car transportation makes it much worse than it could be. I don't hate it here, but I don't like it much either. The healthcare is definitely high quality and it's very nice to live near the Rockies but it feels like a real cultural dead zone and going from one part of the city is of little interest unless you're going to a specific park. I also always worry that the sprawling road network will swallow up all our tax money.
      I will note that one reason I chose to live here is because it's a sizable city that isn't coastal. I used to live in Kobe but seeing the ocean slowly encroaching on the city thanks to climate change was one reason I decided to leave. It also helps that Calgary is very seismically stable, which is nice after having been through some major earthquakes. Now I'm sure we will get a horrific flooding of the Bow River some time soon but I don't think there's anywhere you can live that won't be hit hard by climate change.

    • @kkjjqrysdgadff7782
      @kkjjqrysdgadff7782 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Sorry, having spent a lot of time in Calgary I can promise you it's well below average for green spaces. Aside from the fact that there are only 3-4 months out of the year when the city isn't DEAD & brown, it's best parks would be below average parks in a lot of cities. It has Banff somewhat close, but as it's the only actual nice outdoors nearby, and one of the most popular parks in all of NA, good luck enjoying it peacefully. Calgary sucks.

    • @CLMBRT
      @CLMBRT Před 10 měsíci

      @@kkjjqrysdgadff7782 Nose Hill, Fish Creek ? Huge parks with raw wildlife. The whole Bow River pathway. Calgary aint lacking in the green space department. The weather is another debate.

  • @machtmann2881
    @machtmann2881 Před 10 měsíci +6

    As someone who works in data points all day, you're spot on in questioning assumptions behind the data. These lists are generated with human input and of course have biases and assumptions about who the target audience is (and if you're someone paying for The Economist, you're probably more business-oriented than most). "All models are wrong, some are useful" is very applicable here. That doesn't mean these lists are useless though, you just have to ask yourself who is it actually for and if what you're looking for actually matches up to who the list is for. It would help to be a bit more explicit of course but at the same time, no one should base their decision 100% on a single list. It's just one input out of many.

    • @davidpaterson2309
      @davidpaterson2309 Před 10 měsíci

      Precisely. The Economist (clue’s in the name) knows a thing or two about data analysis and business and it knows it’s target market very well. Of course the assumptions of their “liveability” indices are biased in favour of the perspectives of the top 10% (or thereabouts) of earners in international business - those are the people that multinationals are sending to live in these cities.

    • @nicknickbon22
      @nicknickbon22 Před 4 měsíci

      That’s definitely true, but I would say that if the list would be called “the hardship bonus for companies relocating expats “ no one would care, so I would say that livable is a good marketing verb.

  • @antoineservant7328
    @antoineservant7328 Před 10 měsíci

    Woah there are so many Ottawa clips on this video

  • @edisoncyci4499
    @edisoncyci4499 Před 10 měsíci +1

    YaY Vienna! So happy to live here :D
    Vienna is a bit expensive but not so much compared to other world capitals.

  • @ollie2111
    @ollie2111 Před 10 měsíci

    I've heard such good things about Osaka :)

  • @FPSEli
    @FPSEli Před 10 měsíci +4

    I live in T.O. and earn about $9/hr above minimum wage and over 50% of my income goes to rent. T.O. is not a livable city for people earning ~ $50k/yr. So yeah, this "study" is definitely directed toward the higher income earners...

  • @Anna133199
    @Anna133199 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Quite weird to base the liveability of a city for 10% on mostly private education. They should rename the list: most desirable cities for wealthy expats or something.

    • @j.a.1721
      @j.a.1721 Před 10 měsíci

      Yeah, especially because our relationship with private education is very different here in Austria, this is clearly a very American way of looking at it. I know that sometimes our private universities have a bit of a reputation of "oh you did not make it into public university so you had to go and buy your degree".

  • @faizannehal1
    @faizannehal1 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I would choose Montreal over Vancouver any day. Vancouver is literally a nightmare to live in.

  • @AndrewOzy
    @AndrewOzy Před 10 měsíci +2

    Your critiques are fairly valid, but sounding off on Calgary being ranked higher than Montreal (a city you are clearly passionate about), demonstrates to me you need to spend more time in Calgary and Alberta. Safe, great lifestyle, high paying jobs, affordable housing, and access to amenities. I have to wonder if your critiques would be different if Montreal was ranked much higher.

    • @kkjjqrysdgadff7782
      @kkjjqrysdgadff7782 Před 10 měsíci

      Calgary sucks. I'm sorry, I want to like it but it's just a nothing burger rust belt city. Very little culture, sprawl, horrible weather, absolutely dead for 8 months out of the year.

  • @GryffindorPrefect101
    @GryffindorPrefect101 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Vancouver?! Nono it's too expensive. I love it here but it's barely affordable. I want to move to a different country. Especially with the inflation. Possibly the US. And no, not New York, San Fran or Los Angeles

  • @theultimatereductionist7592
    @theultimatereductionist7592 Před 10 měsíci +2

    That's it. I'm moving to Damascus, Syria.

  • @Mirz-ei6tg
    @Mirz-ei6tg Před 10 měsíci

    How come there is little independent City ranking based on Social structure & Urban design/planning info graphics?

  • @meibing4912
    @meibing4912 Před 10 měsíci +4

    EIU is very highly regarded amongst expats and companies. Having lived on 4 continents and in a wide variety of cities I have to say that Copenhagen is simply amazing. I'm not a fan of Vienna myself but its certainly great. Interestingly, the difference in scores between the two comes in a few distinct places. So be alert to what may or may not be important to you personally.

  • @GreatCityAttractions
    @GreatCityAttractions Před 10 měsíci

    Some amazing cities included - all with their ups and down - positives and negatives.

  • @federicomarintuc
    @federicomarintuc Před 10 měsíci +3

    This reminds me of "Top Universities" lists where they rank by how many CEOs have a degree from...

    • @j.a.1721
      @j.a.1721 Před 10 měsíci

      I am always very suspicious of those ranking as they really seem to favor US-American universities. And from all the people I know who went to the US for and exchange year (high school or university) it seems like it is generally easier there. So either there are huge differences withing the country with the US being one of the best and one of the worst place for education in the western world or those metrics are a bit skewed.

  • @fauzirahman3285
    @fauzirahman3285 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I wonder how Singapore rates in this list. It's a desirable place for companies to bring in professional expats but I rarely see it near the top of this list.

  • @Bl4ckDrg0n
    @Bl4ckDrg0n Před 10 měsíci +2

    English is not my first language, but I think I heard "Paris is an urbanistic sweetheart"!? lol

    • @OhTheUrbanity
      @OhTheUrbanity  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Paris is an urbanist sweetheart, yes! It's highly-regarded among urbanists and city lovers for the architecture, density, walkability, world-class transit (with massive improvements underway), bike infrastructure was lagging but has been improving recently, etc. The major issue that stands out from my perspective is probably housing affordability.
      (Also we should have subtitles available for this video. Feel free to check them out if we talk too fast to easily understand in your second language!)

  • @RAWDernison1
    @RAWDernison1 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Jason Slaughter (aka NotJustBikes) will have a fit seeing Toronto making this bogus Top 10 list. Can't wait for his reaction, LOL.

  • @SkaN2412
    @SkaN2412 Před 10 měsíci +14

    That's so dangerous - if they establish trust and businesses start buying their index to choose cities to relocate to, they can start manipulating markets at an unprecedented scale. In a year they can change the landscape of any city they choose to put on that list.

    • @harrypotcha0283
      @harrypotcha0283 Před 10 měsíci +9

      I saw ranking where Bahrain was considered as the best country to live as an expat. Don’t trust anything that you see in the internet.

    • @dutchman7623
      @dutchman7623 Před 10 měsíci +15

      Never trust any business report, based on financial benefit. Always use your brains and consult many sources.

    • @stever2583
      @stever2583 Před 10 měsíci

      You think that the list makers are not aware of their credibility? how long would it take you to see the bias built in to a report? If it takes you more than two lines you need advice from those more experienced.

    • @machtmann2881
      @machtmann2881 Před 10 měsíci

      Ok before you put on your tinfoil hat, know that the cities on the list are usually quite consistent and that no one seriously bases their decision 100% on it. It's just a datapoint to consider among many others.

  • @Skip6235
    @Skip6235 Před 10 měsíci +7

    I live in Vancouver, and I’d say that pound for pound it is probably the best city to live in in North America for its urban fabric, public transit, bike infrastructure, and incredible access to nature.
    But the costs are absolutely crushing. . .

    • @mattslaboratory5996
      @mattslaboratory5996 Před 10 měsíci +3

      You forgot breathtakingly beautiful.

    • @stever2583
      @stever2583 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Four season activities year round!

    • @patrickt49
      @patrickt49 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Public transit in Vancouver sucks. London and Tokyo are leaps and bounds ahead.

    • @stever2583
      @stever2583 Před 10 měsíci

      @@patrickt49 And they are 5x larger... So not a valid point. takes longer in london unless you use the trains. North America will never use trains - distances are to far between cities car are faster.

    • @Weeegeee212
      @Weeegeee212 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Doesn't it have an awful drug and homeless crisis at the moment?

  • @bilbobaggins3567
    @bilbobaggins3567 Před 10 měsíci

    Anyone know of any European specific lists?

  • @nicholasjohnson7325
    @nicholasjohnson7325 Před 10 měsíci +2

    This also doesn't mention difficulty of assimilation. If, for example, I want to relocate from the US to one of these super cities, what is the likelihood that the locals welcome me in vs. treat me like crap. With such a factor, certain cities, like Vienna might get knocked down a peg.

  • @bearcubdaycare
    @bearcubdaycare Před 10 měsíci +1

    I'm tempted to make a video about an affordable, walkable city, with single family homes on quiet streets starting about US$140,000, strong industry, twice daily trains to Chicago, sidewalks often separated from the street, corner stores, much as it was 75 years ago. They exist. My theory is that people have been moving to bigger metropolises than in previous generations, and smaller cities, even if connected by transit, even if lovely, even if they have jobs, even if it's easy to afford a house with backyard and patio, are left behind.

    • @nicknickbon22
      @nicknickbon22 Před 4 měsíci

      Well in this case you have to take into consideration the so called “knowledge economy”, an economy in which the highest paying jobs require a lot of skills in very high specialized industries and jobs. This type economy is definitely restricted to big cities more so than “low knowledge”, I can’t think of better term economy

  • @prabhudevmarri2312
    @prabhudevmarri2312 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I still live in Depression 🥲

  • @Skatted
    @Skatted Před 10 měsíci +4

    Melbourne is definitely a livable city!

    • @pritapp788
      @pritapp788 Před 10 měsíci

      ...if you don't need to rely on the streetcars to move around. Lovely city otherwise.

  • @caliboytravels2839
    @caliboytravels2839 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I've been to half of these cities and don't think they should have made this list. Melbourne and Vancouver especially.

  • @earlwashburn1002
    @earlwashburn1002 Před 10 měsíci +3

    It's funny that you had so many pics of Ottawa, but we weren't even included in the list! Surely if they had, we'd be higher than Calgary! I wonder how they decide on which cities to include, because Ottawa has the same population as Calgary...

    • @-er-un1wt
      @-er-un1wt Před 10 měsíci

      Not better than Calgary but definitely better than Toronto lol

    • @Bokkerv
      @Bokkerv Před 9 měsíci

      Ottawa is garbage

  • @Mna22240
    @Mna22240 Před 10 měsíci

    It’s too bad the report is so expensive. It would be really interesting to try to reverse engineer the proprietary category scores using a bunch of economic/census data and principle component analysis…

  • @SpySappingMyKeyboard
    @SpySappingMyKeyboard Před 10 měsíci +2

    As a kiwi, Auckland is the one city in the country that I would not consider livable. Being focused on business interests makes that make a lot more sense...

  • @evanflynn4680
    @evanflynn4680 Před 10 měsíci +2

    This list is what bosses think the workers prioritise, not an honest appraisal of the quality of life in each city. I've lived in Sydney most of my life and while it looks great on paper with good public transit, parks, cultural experiences, beautiful scenery and good weather, it's also the most stressful city in Australia. Everyone is always rushing, the housing market is insanely overpriced, there's not enough rentals available - seriously, every time there's an inspection day for people to view a rental property and apply to rent it, there's hundreds of people lining up. Which drives the price of rentals up beyond what people can afford, but they have no choice other than homelessness, so they take it and even offer more to try and beat out the other applicants.
    Sydney just has too many NIMBYs and too much red tape to build enough housing fast enough. The building companies figured out they make much bigger profit margins by building luxury housing, so they pretty much all stopped making affordable housing, and the government hasn't kept up with the minimum requirements to build enough public housing for those in need for decades, and completely ignored making sure affordable housing was being built.
    It's a great city if you have enough money to afford to live in a nice place near the middle of it, but for those with more modest means, get ready to spend lots of time commuting to work.

  • @simonkemfors
    @simonkemfors Před 5 měsíci

    I feel like they came up with a somewhat reasonable list. Copenhagen and Vienna are definitely among the most pleasant cities I have visited. They are clean, feel very safe, are very walkable, in the case of Copenhagen very bikeable, and the transit is good. (I have heard both spoken of in the context of "rude" cities, but in my experience, people in both were always polite, honest and respectful)

  • @ollie2111
    @ollie2111 Před 10 měsíci

    Someone should really collaborate with ppl across the world to get a list or category set for average folk wanting to move around (at least for a handful of countries/cities) that that includes public services more in depth and more accurately in their judgement. I get so frustrated when I try to look things up and all the lists say "it would cost x amount (without rent)" and its like excuse me?!?!?!!? Rent is such a huge factor and amount wtf why would you leave that out like its nothing!!!!

  • @Haxerous
    @Haxerous Před 10 měsíci +1

    Having lived in both Geneva and Toronto there's no way I would rank them on the same level from an Urbanist standpoint.

    • @sm3675
      @sm3675 Před 5 měsíci

      Which city is better?

    • @Haxerous
      @Haxerous Před 5 měsíci

      @@sm3675 I would put Geneva above. Rents and cost of living are high, and quite cosmopolitan in both places so it doesn't really make much of a difference. Geneva however feels a lot safer and it doesn't have the drug/gun/homelessness problem that some parts of Toronto deal with. Although the city itself is much smaller than Toronto, the relative lack of sprawl compared to Toronto also means that the city is a lot more walkable/ bike-able. You can get around to wherever you need to be within 15-20 minutes in most cases and a car isn't necessary. It has no metro system, but it makes for the lack of it with a much better tram/LRT network imo. The bus (and also trolley bus) network does a great job too. They take you pretty much everywhere much like the TTC. Geneva's Cornavin station has a lot of frequent regional, intercity and international trains and offers a quick and easy service to the Airport (that is in every way superior to UP Express imo). The airport also provides free tickets for arrivals to use the train and public transit to get to your destination in the city. The best part of it is the punctuality and quality of the service provided. Bus/train/tram are clean, modern, well built and well maintained and most importantly always on time even if off peak frequency can drop to 15 minutes on some routes; delays on TPG and CFF network are a rare event compared to the TTC/Via Rail.

  • @mikatu
    @mikatu Před 10 měsíci +2

    I just want to point out that they put Zurich in the list as a token for German Switzerland and Geneva as a token for French Switzerland. Other cities would appear in the list if they included all swiss cities in the study. For example, Basel is much better than Geneva. Lucerne and Bern are also better than most cities in the list, except for the lack of an airport.
    People claim that Zurich is a very expensive city. But living in Basel is much cheaper than living in Lisbon, for the same salary level.... Most people have no idea what they are talking about!

  • @shaylenpatel6904
    @shaylenpatel6904 Před 10 měsíci

    The idea is based off what you get in a city regardless of if you have no money or a lot. Which is only fair way to compare

  • @zigzag00
    @zigzag00 Před 10 měsíci

    Montreal made the list but it was placed #25! Still pretty good comparing it to hundreds of other cities.

  • @5thElem3nt
    @5thElem3nt Před 10 měsíci +1

    Also, the question is, which cities are ranked in the first place. I mean, those are not just the largest cities in the world. For example, I recently traveled through Spain and from the cities I visited, Bilbao is by far the most livable citie in Spain. But it's not even ranked while being larger than Geneva. Also, in Japan only Osaka and Tokyo are ranked. This realy shows, that this is a ranking for big american and maybe european companies.

  • @rileynicholson2322
    @rileynicholson2322 Před 9 měsíci

    Many of these lists are exactly what you described. And index of subjective ratings given by their own analysts with some fancy math used to make it look like more than just guesswork.
    This list also looks like it doesnt have clear inclusion criteria for cities. They definitely didn't rate every city in India for example, but its unclear if they are using an income or population cut off for inclusion on the list.

  • @DavidM2002
    @DavidM2002 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I have lived in Vancouver for all of my 68 years. I have traveled enough to have a pretty good understanding of many other cities. I wouldn't live anywhere else. I can walk across the city at any time of day or night and, for the most part, never worry about my safety. The biggest crime problem we have is, like many other big cities, drug and gang related. But, the gun component results from guns being smuggled into Canada from the U.S. Being mainly north of the U.S., we are often described as the country that lives over the meth lab.

    • @Arclite02
      @Arclite02 Před 10 měsíci

      And that's great... But if you HADN'T lived in Vancouver for 7 decades, you wouldn't have a hope in hell of living there. It's catastrophically expensive for anyone who isn't massively wealthy, or already got in before everything went completely insane.

    • @DavidM2002
      @DavidM2002 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Arclite02 Massively wealthy ? Just not true. I have a dear friend who has a nice apartment in a nice area with a reasonable rent.

    • @kkjjqrysdgadff7782
      @kkjjqrysdgadff7782 Před 10 měsíci

      You couldn't pay me to walk through downtown eastside in broad daylight, let alone night. Kits, West, and North Van are the only very safe neighborhoods and all 3 have had recent violent attacks by the tremendous homeless population.

    • @kkjjqrysdgadff7782
      @kkjjqrysdgadff7782 Před 10 měsíci

      Nice dig at the US but a HUGE portion of Vancouver's core is as bad, or worse, than any US city. Vancouver has a lot of pros and is a great city, but let's not pretend it's nearly as safe or clean as any number of European cities.

  • @latrapp4641
    @latrapp4641 Před 10 měsíci +2

    These lists need to stop overlooking Kigali Rwanda. Clean, safe, livable.

    • @trainsandmore2319
      @trainsandmore2319 Před 7 měsíci

      Have you taken into consideration the worsening traffic tho?

  • @flyingiguana409
    @flyingiguana409 Před 10 měsíci +1

    i moved out of toronto a few years ago to just outside the city. a 30 min train ride takes me downtown to work, but i would say toronto isn't livable anymore

  • @dougpatterson7494
    @dougpatterson7494 Před měsícem

    I’ve not been to Montreal myself but have heard great things about it.
    I have a bit more insight into the Vancouver vs Calgary debate. Were money no object I think Vancouver is preferable to Calgary due to natural surroundings and weather. The year Calgary ranked higher than Vancouver seemed to get a lot of “panties in knots”. When affordability and the people of the city are considered I can certainly see how Calgary might rank higher than Vancouver.

  • @FrankMahovlich
    @FrankMahovlich Před 10 měsíci +4

    I'm a Torontonian. Now I understand why we scored so high. The transportation system has broken down. The price of housing is beyond belief.

    • @mapleveritas2698
      @mapleveritas2698 Před 10 měsíci

      Transportation system has broken down? Where do you live in Toronto?

  • @TeddysBoomgates
    @TeddysBoomgates Před 10 měsíci +1

    As a former Sydney resident, it is probably a great place to live if you can afford to shell out $3 million for a home within 10km of the city centre. For the rest of us plebs it's just an expensive car dependent hellhole.

  • @arthurwatts1680
    @arthurwatts1680 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Not really sure Australia can hold its head so high when we have kids who think Grand Theft Auto is a tutorial. Sure, none of our cities is Detroit or Chicago, but the idiots show no sign of changing their behaviour.

  • @RagnarokLoW
    @RagnarokLoW Před 10 měsíci +25

    Calgary doesnt have a 100% score in infrastructure and culture/environment. Especially the later is non-existant.

  •  Před 10 měsíci +1

    I much prefer just about anything to the Economist's rankings. Monocle magazine also released theirs this month, and guess who's at the top there too? Vienna!
    What separates the city from pretty much the rest of the West is its relatively affordable housing, which is a result of an over 100-year tradition of building and funding high-quality social housing, limiting speculation and encouraging socioeconomic mixing as much as possible. Public transport is also excellent (and only 365 euros/year), walkability is fabulous and the city has refused to privatise basic services that should never be subjected to the profit motive. And almost every day, I see the city announcing a new street that's being greened and either pedestrianised or traffic-calmed. I can't say any of those things about my current city of Vancouver, and I sadly doubt that this will change anytime soon.
    For all these reasons and more, I think Vienna earns its ranking.

    • @ISeekSilence
      @ISeekSilence Před 10 měsíci

      Yupp, it does. I lived there for quite a while. It is the greenest city in the world with 53% green spaces and they are trying to make it even greener. They also have a couple of bike infrastructure initiatives running that will see Vienna become a more bike-friendly city. If I am not mistaken this is the summer they want to build a lot of bike lanes and connect existing ones. The only real negative I can think of are the closing hours of shops. They close early and there's no business on Sundays.

    • @j.a.1721
      @j.a.1721 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@ISeekSilencethe closing hours can be a good thing though, for example if you work in one of those shops. Especially if you have a family, having one day of the week that is kind of designated family time, because most don't have to work and you can't run a lot of errands etc, is actually quite nice in my opinion. It slows things down a bit which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

  • @magictooth2
    @magictooth2 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Basically, "what's the best place to live if you have money?"

    • @ISeekSilence
      @ISeekSilence Před 10 měsíci

      You don't need that much money in Vienna. Honestly. Just look for a nice flat outside the first districts and you'll do splendidly.

  • @brucemastorovich4478
    @brucemastorovich4478 Před 10 měsíci +3

    I feel like livable is such a weird word to use in a ranking. A place either is or isn't livable. Things like quality of life, safety, health, fairness, and affordability have actual rank-ability. Livability? Meaningless as a scale.

    • @tomwantshelp
      @tomwantshelp Před 10 měsíci +1

      If a city wasn't liveable at all then nobody would live there. But I think it's fair to say that Vienna is an easier place to live than Tripoli or Aleppo.

  • @dougpatterson7494
    @dougpatterson7494 Před 10 měsíci +5

    I suspect corruption is an aspect of why Calgary ranked higher than Montreal. I remember finding it a little funny that most of the national discussion when this list came out was that Calgary was the surprise of Calgary being ranked highest. Vancouver, Toronto, and Montreal were shocked/offended. I found it interesting that virtually nothing was said about Edmonton not making the top 100 list as there is quite a large, friendly, rivalry between the two cities.

    • @debuthunter5389
      @debuthunter5389 Před 7 měsíci

      Edmonton is a bit of a hole. Winters are horrible, and it's way too spread out and industrial. And the crime rate isn't great.

  • @anthonymorris5084
    @anthonymorris5084 Před 10 měsíci

    Toronto has amazing amenities. Too bad it's almost impossible to get to any of them. Traffic is rush hour all day. To many homeless with mental illness roaming the streets and growing tent cities.

  • @frafraplanner9277
    @frafraplanner9277 Před 10 měsíci

    5:24
    Industry: Automotive 💀

  • @Anonymous-sb9rr
    @Anonymous-sb9rr Před 10 měsíci +1

    I think small cities are generally better to live in than large cities. You get all the amenities you need, but without the traffic jams, with less crime, less littering and friendlier people. A 100k population is a nice size. There are probably a hundred cities that are more liveable than any city on this list.

  • @tomchupick9450
    @tomchupick9450 Před 10 měsíci

    I’ve been living and working in 20 locations scattered across 6 countries, and the term livability is very subjective. The places I appreciated the most were safe walkable communities with everything available within a 5 minute walk and lots to see and do near-by. Car-centric sprawling cities with homes only 1% of the population can afford would not be near the top of the list. How about some of the smaller European cities? The Hague? Strasbourg, Cologne?

    • @nicknickbon22
      @nicknickbon22 Před 4 měsíci

      Well maybe they’re positioned a little bit lower, but I think they won’t take into consideration cities that are smaller than the ones listed. The only exception is Zurich but I think you have to put it considering the audience this list is made for.