Wiring a motorbike (or caferacer) 'Bare Bones' (part 1 of 2)
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This is part 1 of 2 video’s about how to sort your wiring on a motorbike.
This part explains how to test all the necessary parts to let your motorbike run. Basically you don’t need more than these. Off course you would have to hook them up with your starterswitch, startermotor, engine kill switch and what not. In part 2 I will explain how to hook them up together.
Here is the link to part 2: • Wiring a motorbike (or...
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Here’s a quick jump to the different components discussed in this video:
• Testing your ignition coil: 04:20 min
• Testing your starter solenoid or starter relay: 08:16 min
• Testing your alternator/stator/crank position sensor: 13:43 min
• Testing your regulator rectifier/R/R: 19:04 min - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Hi, just a footnote if anyone’s interested... An engine’s alternator or stator produces AC current. Kick start bikes & mopeds used 6v AC for years. The ignition, lights horn etc would work using AC. But you can’t store AC electricity... If you can’t store it you can’t have an electric starter. So you need to convert AC to DC by using a rectifier. But AC current increases & decreases with engine RPM. So to smooth this out and make a nice constant voltage you need a regulator. Once you have a nice even voltage in DC form you can use it to charge a battery. Then boom, you have energy stored to hit the starter button & fire the engine up next time you need it.! Plus lights using DC don’t get brighter or dimmer with engine speed... which is handy.
well said, very helpful. thanks
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Hi. Willing to assist on wiring of a 1983 Yamaha SR 500?? Thx :)
Yes. So easy to understand. Thankyou. Great explanation
I keep coming back to your videos. You have a knack for clarity & ease of reference. Thankyou
I love your teaching I really love your teaching❤
in the middle of making a custom barebones harness for a 1983 GL1100a and holy shit did this save my life, thank you for the whole run down!
Very good that you start with this video. Just listen and look very closely. Don't skip any part and then do it step by step.
Using this video & part 2 to diagnose problems with my Xv750 Bobber & I'm also finally starting my barebones wiring as well. Nicely done Pep. Groeten, Al. 😉👍
Can't wait for the next part, electronics always stumps me up. Awesome video thanks!
This was wonderful!! Working on a Yamaha Vision and it is basically the smaller twin to the Virago. This was helpful beyond compare as well as clear purposeful knowledge.
Super helpful video! I can test all my components now!
Great job! That’s a really clear explination! I love you
very comprehensive explanation and demonstration, Thank.
Excellent. Will definitely be checking out part 2. About to start my wiring on my virago 1100.
Clear explanation of wiring with the exact chosen music, haha....! Well done Pep!
Thank you so much!
Fantastic video, Mate! A lot o' eye opening information...
Great video, i am going to school by watching people doing this kind of video , Thanks for posting it.
Clean and cool explanation! Thack you for another impressive video!!! Keep well!!!!
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Very informative video's...listening to all of the MC wiring youtubes and subscribed!
Well you deserve a lot for this all thanks, I don’t have anyone to teach me anymore! now I must learn and react! U probably helped save my virago
Thank you sir and good luck with the repairs!
@@chiefpepdesign I’m gonna try and delete the turn signal relay it seems all my problems stem from their! Any suggestions I was thinking the classic 4pin relays but should I just get another stock while I still can? It seems all functional
@@livinlikelarry8782 relais are uniform. You can use any. From a car or whatever. It doesn't really matter.
Great video on the electric this will help me a lot and i think this will become the most watched video you have thank you again
Dude I have learned with this part and the second part a bunch, Thanx
Glad to hear! That's why I made them. Keep it up!
Thanks, Chief. Trying to get bare bones my xv750 and having trouble. Looking forward to seeing you make your own bare bones harness.
Excellent! Great job Chief! I get so many questions about wiring too, now I can just send them your video so that I won't have to explain it so many times! haha!
Good video. It helped me a lot. Thanks!
I'm working on the same bike, same model, same year. This is awesome info thank you for the video!
Make sure you watch them all and in order. You can't make a mistake that way! 👍
well the bike runs now first time in 5 years.turns out the last owner had ignition coil #2 going to both cylinders causing alot of backfiring/ misfiring..with cleaning the carbs and following your directions it runs like new no misifires or anything. thanks again!
Really good help, continue please ...!!
Excellent instructions
very ingormative video..thanks a lot
Amazing video, perfect uigelegd voor beginners! Groeten uit het caribisch gebied, Aron
wow.. Very nice. Well explained. Thanx
Outstanding video
That is the most beautiful and simple explanation about motorcycle electric systems ..😂😂🎉😢😮😅
tq so match frnd..u gives me some one knowledges its so precious
Absolutely amazing. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Finally I found what I was looking for! (Perfect voice over for artificial intelligence!)🙂
Hoi Pep, Really good video which should help a lot of people & a great coincidence for me as I have to check out my stator & regulator/rectifier on my xv750 bobber, after my battery drained when I was out at the weekend!! Groeten uit Ierland, Al. 😉👍
Great to hear! Exactly why I make these video's. Let me know if you found your flaw!
this is fantastic
Fantastic! Thank you!
Thanks very much sir for ur explanations,but how to connect also is very very important I do appreciate your work sir,May the almighty continue to strengthen you sir
The video's that follow in this series (part 1 to 5) tell and show you how to connect...
thank you , great job!
Thank you so much ❤️
Very very helpful
very helpful
I'm a mechanic , electrical stuff is gibberish to me ....but this was quite useful for me to diagnose why my bike had no spark , dead coil ... Thanks mate ,helped me out 😉😎
Great to hear! 👍
Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!!!
Very worthfull bro
xcellent very informative baie dankie
THANKS
What a great detailed video ! Holy shit I wish I had found u earlier :)
this is great
Thank you sooo mutch ! This is the best thing ever, im joining your patron as soon as im not so Post-vecation broke, quick question you changed the OHM setting on the meter, where did you start and what did you change it to ?
Ooof... I can't remember anymore. I think the only thing is to change one dot (from eg. 100 to 10). Just see which reading you get and figure out which setting you need and makes the most sense according to the reading. Same goes for volts. You can read: 1.23 Volts and on the other setting it will be 12.3 Volts which makes more sense.
Thank u !!!!
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More electrical videos plz , how to wire a Virago
Are you going to demonstrate how to test the CDI/TCI?
BIGGZ46 Well, there isn't really a good way to test it static. So, if you've tested all the components, and they were all good, and you hooked up everything as it should but the bike doesn't fire up or works, then probably your TCI is not good or not working... Ok?
Can you describe what values you set the reading for each part? Sorry for such a specific question it’s my first time ever using a volt meter, or if it says on the manual I can just look on there! Thanks! Working on an Sr250 by the way.
For which measurement?
so glad i dont have a virgo any more!
Hello great video I have a question to ask, I'm in the middle of trying to rewire my Yamaha R6R it was torn up by rodent's but anyway does this simplicity apply to my bake it's a 2007 it is also fuel injected with a electric fuel pump and has O2 sensor also has air flow meter so I'm really confused about the wiring and want to simplify it like yours thank you and again great videos
Basically yes and no. The basics should be the same. The TCI would be your boardcomputer and from there there will be plugs going to your injection. But you really need your wiring diagram. And I am afraid you will find that you can't loose a lot of wires since the more modern bikes like yours are allready wired up pretty descent. But the logic is still the same.
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Your channel is very useful to me. I have already fixed the circuit cable of my Yamaha vx535. I would like to ask you again, do you know how to get the circuit cable of Honda's cdx750?
No I don't. If Is would start on a bike like that, I would do exactly the same as in the video. No matter what color the wires are...
@@chiefpepdesign I get it, because I have a virago 535 V engine and a cdx750, 4-cylinder engine, the wires of the two cars are no longer available, and after watching your video teaching, I learned to repair my virago 535 circuit line, and now only left This cdx750, 4-cylinder engine circuit cable, because I don’t understand how the electric board operates? From the electric board to the ignite coyle, I have been looking for it on the Internet for almost 4 years, and finally let me find your channel to solve my viragi535, I just can't find the cdx750... Thank you very much for your channel teaching for me to solve my problem, thank you
Good going! YUP an electrical diagram for motorcycles, can at first look quite daunting,
BUT if you, YES YOU consider power goes from bat+ thru 1 or more switches, to a load
like a horn, headlamp then back to -- or ground known as the chassis you can take a pencil
and follow the path for eadch circuit. If ur working with a Harley D maint. manual grab that
pair of half-glasses that is laying around you will need them to make out the letters for wire
color codes, ask me how I know. Starter solenoid primary and secondary? NOPE Primary and secondary refer to the eindings in an ignition coil, magneto or regular tranformer as for the
electric utility company, your old train set, BUT no primary winding, just a winding whose
magnetic field operates a pair of heavy contacts. This is 1 type of starter solenoid, the other
type is larger, does the same thing AND mechanically pushes or pulls the starter pinion gear
out to mesh with the ring gear either on flywheel or cluutch bundle.
If a Stator has three wires it is a 3 phase stator like nthe stator in an automobile alternator.
2 wires is a sinple phase job.
I love....GOOOOOOOOOOLD xD
Hi, thanks for the video! Do you happen to still have the diagrams? The viragotechforum seems offline and i am starting something similar. Thanks!
No I am sorry... I don't have them anymore...
i have a gn400, kickstart, do i need the battery/regulator setup? or can i just use the cdi and coils, i have spark brand new carb compression and air bike wont start, ive ruled out everything exept for wiring.
I'm sorry I don't know. Try to ask on a specific forum!
Ik ben ook met XV750 project nu en dankzij jouw video ben ik er achter gekomen dat mijn accu niet word opgeladen door de dynamo. Sinds ik de dynamo heb vervangen wilt de motor niet meer aanslaan, de startmotor geeft alleen een ‘klik’ geluid bij het starten. Zowel accu, rectifier en dynamo zijn nieuw. Zou het kunnen dat de startmotor niet meer goed is?
Daar lijkt het wel op!
Hi! Great channel! I am just wondering, is this map and build similar for all Japanese motorbikes, except the wire colors and some connections? I am wiring a Honda GB250 (1989) and there are some differences (Less wires come from my R/R and 4 wires coming from my ignition key for example) but I am hoping this build is mostly similar.
For sure. The whole scheme is basically the same. The units work the same. Best is to have your original wiring diagram at hand so you can always figure out which wire was going where. And you can compare it. More wires to your ignition key has probably got to do something with parking lights. And try to make a same scheme as I made. Delete all the central wires and draw new ones one by one like I did. If you do that first, you are allready teaching yourself what you will be doing in practice.
@@chiefpepdesign HA. Unfortunately the HONDA GB250 wiring diagram is like some ancient lost scroll. Complately unable to find it online, so I am going off a mixture of different Honda diagrams (CBR/CBX and ones like yours) in order to piece what I have together.
Thank you for your reply all the same :)
@@diarmuidkelly965 Try the Haynes workshop manual. For sure they have it and in the back you will find it
Chiefpep oh I never heard of this. Thank you
Hi, how do you test the Tci?, not covered in the vidio #1.
I know. You can't really test it...
Hi what size wire/amp/ gauge should u use for a 125cc please
The same as a normal bike. You can find the gauges at 22:06 in this video: czcams.com/video/m2cGSZlpznc/video.html
I got better now.
what was the red wire on the reg/rec?
Red is always a positive lead. I mention that aswell.
i tried to use a battery to test my rely and the wires got super hot i used 18 gauge black and red wire and did it the same way you did and it just fizzed for a little but on the bike i can hear a click what am i doing wrong
I have no idea. Sounds like something is broken/defect.
Do you still have the wire diagram? The link isn't working for me and I'm trying to barebones an xj 750.
No sorry. Subscribe to the viragotechforum or just pause the screen.
I really need to know where to plug these into my m unit blue..
What do you mean with 'those'?
Hi, I own an XJ400 (1983) and I am facing some
problems. When the engine speed rpm is high it stalls (bogs). In the beginning
looked like fuel supply but is not. Carbs are restored, cleaned and synchronized.
I double check it. I believe it is an electrical issue. I tested the coils,
rectifier & sparks and are okay. It looks like something is “confusing” the
engine electrically.
Any ideas of what might be?
No unfortunately. Impossible to tell. Could be a shortcircuit somewhere. Could could try to lift up the harnass here and there during the high revs. Maybe it helps and you could tell where it's coming from. If an electrical issue is the cause... Have you checked the condition of your sparkplug caps and the wires in there? You could cut a small end of the wires and screw them back on. Often the wire in there is a bit dodgy.
Chiefpep thank you
Is there a way to test and make sure the CDI is good?
Not that I know of...
Please tell how to check the c.d.i.,im goda from sri lanka.god bless you.
Impossible to test
i have a picture of my OEM 83' kz750k harness and was the most ... still is the only thing giving me issue
No spark to the plugs, I believe its my rectifier, but want to do a full rewire to spec because the harness looked so dirty, sad and worn.
need help wiring my new ignition switch on my cbr f4 ..please help
That's why I made these video's. To help everyone with wiring... I can't go in every single issue privately. Sorry.
hey there great video's 👍 you never show how to wire the push start and relay could you post video explaining please that would be awesome other than that very informative video's been helping me alot
Yes I do. In this video czcams.com/video/uUIFEQswCOM/video.html. Which relay? I only use a turnsignal relay. If you watch the complete wiring serie you will notice all these topics are discussed.
yes i saw this one! very good! but i was hoping for starter relay and start button im keeping my fuel pump as well for now so was wondering if you had any ideas or suggestions
@@allenking2474 Could you be more specific? I show and explain how to connect the starter solenoid and starter button. So what information do you miss?
so you dont run starter buttun to a relay..? that's where I'm confused...
wow my apologies you def mention starter button and cut off my wife or kids mustve distracted me tho i did watch video several times some how still missed this part lol but still as i mentioned i dont see you using starter relay for system..? dont i not need one? i have a 93 xv1100
I want to know mt09 wiring my bike can' t start all fuse is good i test but what the problem is i don't know .press start ingine work but i not press engine is dead not work .can you show me how is problem
I am sorry. Impossible to solve problems like this over the chat. Please watch the video's carefully and try to diagnose
I have a 81 xv750 I rewired it and everything works good only problem is there is significantly less voltage after the starter solenoid I bought a new one and still the same issue. 🙃 Any ideas?
Are your wires thick enough? Do you have a very solid ground as I mention in most video's? But what is the problem? Doesn't starter motor turn or...?
@@chiefpepdesign I can hear the starter motor try to go. The ground is proven solid and is all brand new. I re-used the factory wires for everything else though.
@@chiefpepdesign I love your videos by the way, very insightful. You also do a very good job making it easier to understand.
@@timhentges3567 try to connect all the main components directly so outside of the harnas to see if that helps. Sounds like a bad connection or even starting short circuit somewhere. Follow the diagram exactly as I explain in one of the first wiring video's with the main components serie.
How do you wire a Yamaha 59x power pack
I have no idea...
Hallo chiefpep hoe kan aan jouw schema’s komen alvast bedankt
I explain that in part 2, the episode after this one.
Thanks👊🏽👍🏽
Did you upgrade your bike to a gen 2 CDI? Is it used or did you buy an aftermarket CDI?
absurity I have two in my garage. I was thinking to use the black one...
Chiefpep I bought a gen 2 regulator for my XV920 but the wires are different. Could you go over the difference? There are three white wires and one red.
absurity Are there no more coming out? Always compare the wires with what you had and try to follow which goes where. I will discuss the wiring in part 2. I'll try to do so as soon as possible. In the meantime search on the Viragotechforum. For sure you find your answer there!
Chiefpep I couldn’t find anything on the virago tech forum. In the manual, the 81-83 has brown to a main switch, red to battery. 84-on, it just has red to battery. So, it doesn’t have the main switch.
Then only use permanent red... Make sure you ground your R/R really well. It doesn't get fed by seperate ground/negative...
How to test the CDI ?
Idk
The mechanic here reconnected the radiator fan after it stopped. And then I got an F1 sign, I don't know what to do. And the mechanic also told me he didn't know how to fix it. Where can I get this computer test from, please help me
I have no Idea... I am sorry. The Virago doesn't have a radiator nor a fan and no F1 signs.
I want to know the electrical stand caycul circuit with the power cable. Because there is a fault with its electricity
@@arsanuosmukthar1943 best is to search on forums I guess...
Can a motorcycle start without a battery?
No. I believe a battery should be connected. It can be empty though. But obviously you would have to push start it.
@@chiefpepdesign thanks, I just feel that its more classic if theres no battery and you just have to kickstart the bike
@@dantepatiko1450 yes, but these bikes have no kickstarter...
I'm just petrified every time I have to deal with major electricals..
I get the theory behind how every part interact with each other, but when it comes to wiring it from scratch it would just leave me scratching my head with confusion..
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Thank you
Nope I watched the whole video hoping to learn how to test my cid igniter box and hopefully repair it
Impossible to test...
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Another great video ruined by intrusive and annoying background music. You do not need music in videos. Especially while you are talking. Regardless, thank you for the video as it is helpful.
Please know I made this video long ago and figured out the whole CZcams thing by myself. Trying what would work, what not, especially listening to my viewers. If I would do another serie, offcourse I would take the learnings.
@@chiefpepdesign it’s an excellent tutorial
this is NOT bare bones.... this is wiring the entire bike
Ok sorry... I hope it was helpfull anyway...