Patreon EXCLUSIVE | This Is America | The Joe Budden Podcast
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In this Patreon exclusive episode, the dudecast begins by talking about anniversaries and engagement rings before turning to a debate on entrepreneurship in society today and moving forward. The JBP then discusses gender fluidity and if it should be taught in schools at a young age, if Drake is downplaying ‘This Is America’ and its significance, Ish’s plans to write a book, NFL running backs are upset at not getting paid, + more!
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Joe’s lack of formal education shows a lot when he’s trying to have certain conversations. The entrepreneur talk is a shining example of that.
what did he say for example?
@@articledon4880finish watching.
@@articledon4880 it’s just the way overall how he talks about real world things that there seems to be a lack of critical thinking that comes with even just a grade school education. To be fair it could also just be that he’s been in the entertainment industry his whole adult life so there’s just a disconnect there. He didn’t even understand what toll booths are for and talked about being happy the workers don’t have those jobs anymore without considering the economic impact of a large group of people losing their jobs. But it could just be his elitism showing cause that makes him sound like one of those “learn to code” people
FACTSSSSS
@@darnell9806 I agree with everything you’re saying, why do you think people think learning how to code is the answer
Joe is so out of touch to not understand this concept. Ish is absolutely right.
This is why I hate CZcamsrs because Joe is technically an employee of CZcams and patreon because they give him a 1099 form at the beginning of each year. CZcamsrs swear they bosses but they really employees. I bet if Joe lose his monetization on CZcams he'll go back to doing shows in parks living room
@@tuubu9115 I totally agree.
That's the best way to have a debate .....
It's because he didn't go to college and take economics 1 and 2 lol
Joe is not wrong. It's just that most ppl in the U.S. are "educated" to be cogs so that's all they know. An entrepreneurial based system is best for a free society for all. To understand the real U.S., not the BS they feed you, you'd have to know centuries of European history. What we have now is overpopulation, and a majority of that population in indefinite serfdom and peonage slavery. Again, the majority have zero idea what any of that means but will argue with the ppl who do because they were trained to defend the system.
The fact that This is America was this much of a debate is wild. The message in the song was clear as day. How someone interprets something can sometimes be irrelevant to the point that is being made. This is an example.
We need a Parks appreciation day on the JBP he’s probably one of the most logical thinkers that says shit that nobody’s thinking
No. And I hate his adlibs get off his d 🤡
I Agree.
Agreed
Parks definitely needs a spot on that couch. Move Ice to where parks be at 😂
@@Preston_TheDragon 🤝🏾 agreed fam
Ish was basically trying to say if everyone has a million dollars, it’s not a million dollars anymore. There needs to be poor for rich to exist as is laborers for a company to thrive.
The core point that ish cleverly addressed is that in his fear, that line of distinguishing class is expanding faster then the roles are able to fill. Rich are getting richer and the poor are getting more poor and that shows in the housing market. Inflation 😮
Society absolutely needs employees.
Small thinking
Ugh shid I'm at work right damn now thinking bout entrepreneurship
@@SUPERZAYAN1realistically it's not. Service jobs are necessary
Not for mediocre jobs. Ai will replace those jobs. People forget that 9-5 / school was a result of Henry ford needing more workers . Our great great grandfather were farmers, locksmiths, in the army, etc. these were entrepreneurial jobs and most importantly they were jobs which needed u to develop skills
AI taking over the world is in itself a small minded concept. It’s limited by hardware integration.
For example, our entire planet’s manufacturing is built on machines requiring humans. If you think we can rebuild the entire global infrastructure for AI integration you are on drugs.
Joe missed the point that most companies need workers, laborers, staff. So if everybody is an entrepreneur then there will be people who are doing labor and simultaneously running their own business. That will never work.
Frfr. Look how many businesses Elon an mark cuban failed at before they finally succeeded. Ad they came from wealth but still failed I hate all theses CZcamsrs acting like bosses. I bet If Joe get demonetized on CZcams hell cut half his staff
True. Basic economics, bro is tweaking
He’s out of touch with America at large.
@@EARiotyou should look up a little thing called “mass production” which allows you to even have the phone that you used to type that leftist bullshit
You can contract work. As an entrepreneur you can contract your work so the only way doesn't have to be that way.
Joe sounded crazy with that entrepreneur segment. No way companies would last without workers. Who will fix the a.i when it goes down 😂 Joe
ai isn't even really what people think it is. They think it is an actual artifact intelligence when it isn't. We haven't achieved singularity.
Right? Who will teach the kids at school?
Joe is the type to argue, im not talking about what im wrong about, im only talking about what im right about or slightly right about 😂
Facts
The first hour in eight minutes shows nothing but pure, masculine, energy, honesty, vulnerability, respect, care, and a loving friendship. This is rare. This is Raw. This is much needed in the world, especially amongst men, each one of them receive their constructive criticism because they knew it came from a respectful loving place.
Thank You Parks for providing ISH with the wise counsel 🙏 regarding using his own voice as well as the rationale 👋👋👋
A few minutes later they all started using that voice !
Lol!
✌🏾✌🏽✌🏼💫
Agreed
Wolves don’t mess with lions. “What do you call Joe”
A cheetah. 😂😂😂😂😂
"Bob Cat"🤭
I hate when Joe won’t let a topic go, they’ll move on to the next topic and he’ll keep finding ways to go back because he lost the argument 🤦🏿♂️
I love how Ish is trying to explain a simple Economics concept and Joe can't even begin to understand it
Because it's bullshit that was passed down by very evil human beings. Stay on that side tho we good.
“This is America” was 🔥
You guys gel so well. Joe used to come off too strong, now we see a softer side of him. More jokes all around. Keep it going y’all. Love to see it
Diff girl, no drugs, friends, older folks, learned his lesson, better lighting, more money, etc etc. Changes 🎶
40 min in and I can verify that what ish is saying is correct. I studied health education and economics in college and read books about depopulation because we are consuming too many resources too fast and about the kids and birth control. The US is a big business
Ish is right. Joe example about being happy tech is taking jobs is wild. The bagging groceries use to be for young kids. Now the kids have nothing to do for money except crime. We're mining the earth for resources to create tech. The biggest problem is people don't have a skill anymore, thats why the stimulus checks was like gold to so many people. Not understanding how much it added to the deficit.
You just told everyone just exactly how uneducated you really are.
Just because you read books made from the same people who run the education systems who all share the same depopulation ideology.
You flaunt “booksmarts” but lack any other intelligence to have the foresight to see it’s a nefarious agenda being pushed. Earth is way more than sufficient to handle the current population. Elon Musk concurs.
That’s a faxx my cousin told me the same thing he’s in public health
@@oladeebiazazi4538 yep, same. Do you know that hospitals charge for using cups and ice and every single thing for a patient. I read that one hospital charge $600 for a cup of ice. It’s wicked out here and it’s actually depressing if you think about it too much as a regular civilian
@@Frija_the_goddess Wow, that’s insane!
Ice has the musical taste of a teenager. 😂
Like he just way too mature for some of these music takes
Nah, not even. We listened to Public Enemy, X Clan, Brand Nubian, Poor Righteous Teachers, KRS One, etc... along with lighter faire. Ice and Ish are superficial, basic and empty in their taste.
@@hopes_dreamswhaaaat!? 😐
I’m reading this comment while they were playing All The Stars and just seeing Ice and Ish both dancing like they never heard a better song to a Kendrick record is hilarious…. All to prove the wrong point 😂
This is America by Childish Gambino is by far not a trash song. Ice just doesn’t like listening to anything that does not promote black on black crime or ratchet women in the streets.
😂 it’s ok ice
I like pods like this. ISH for MVP..
ice energy been getting cornier as time goes by
Bro seriously he act like a female
He was ignorant asl on this one.
Shout out to all JBP Fam 🎉🎉
Joe a legend for these patreons back to back this is the thing about being part of the brokies we still get that content shout out to the patronees y’all paid so that we could watch 🫡
You take those kneepads off?
5$ should not hurt that bad 😂
😂😂😂 not “y’all paid so we can watch”. We thank y’all!!!
It’s just a marketing strategy, there is no need to suck him off and call him a legend😂😂 wait till you found what Black Friday is 📈 Just a Q4 close out 📉
@@TREDESHAUN paying for some niggas Only fans is crazy lol 😂
Ice be emotional saying I don't care lol
I'm with Joe and Parks on the "This is America " debate. That shyt hard and still said so much without saying nothing. The way it wad put together,production, video was overall DOPE!!!. REGARDLESS IF IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DRAKE DISS...
Y’all going to raise y’all’s blood pressure with the pseudo courtroom debates 😂 knew Joe wasn’t going to let the This Is America debate go
Ish’s laugh will have you dying just because 😂
This is America was & is fire lol . Wild takes
Nah that shit trash, I agree with ice
Shouts to Joes book, been in my bookshelf since 06’. A lot of more current tracks are missing. PT.2??? IAN🗣️🗣️🗣️
My all time favorite rapper. And I've never heard of this. Is it a gem for real? I need to find one
The thing about this argument is who says everyone’s going to be entrepreneurs? There would be people that are willing to do the hard work to manage a service and trade & people who will prefer to focus on tasks they can do to help said process.
Ice was wrong about the car assembly industry. It didn’t go away. They moved from Detroit where they would have to pay American citizens a livable wage and took their plants to places like Mexico where they can pay workers less. Yes automation helped with efficiency but they still need plant workers they just went where they can get them cheaper
I believe his point was to highlight the difference in how Detroit looked while the industry was there versus how it looked when it left. He also literally said they left because they had to pay them a livable wage.
His point was the negative impact it had on the city, not that the industry completely disappeared lol
Flip my man yo! He definitely makes the pod fun! Bc when they hit him the awkward questions he get to stuttering and his facial expressions 🤣😂🤣😂
I hate when people who never went to college say college is useless….i would love to see them hire a lawyer, doctor or accountant whos not college educated 😂😂y’all want engineers building bridges and skyscrapers without degrees lol
Facts!!!!!!!
I really enjoy the pods where it’s just some real mature talk. Yeah, the jokes are cool but I’m always looking to learn as well.
Ice fully supports the negative aspect of rap music… I don’t agree with him at all.. you can’t push positivity and support negativity… he’s a cornball
Ice is a certified goofy
SEE THIS IS WHY I NEED A MIC ON THIS PODCAST!!!
😂😂😂 why ish being so secretive when asked a question , when he the let me ask you a question guy lol
1:49:00 the funniest part flip be knowing what he doing 🤣🤣🤣🤣
When ice mad that shit be the funniest
Man that nigga said “ we got em”. He couldn’t let that slide lmaooo perfect timing
If everybody was an Entrepreneur we would go back to Bartering Products & Services. Trading..
The i went to the precinct joke had me cracking up lol
Im am beyond glad that the segment with the nonbinary teacher turned into a convo about how every group compares themselves to black discrimination. That teacher pissed me off the second he equated his imaginary struggle to black ppl 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I've literally put all other Pods on pause cos of these drops, damn! We are eating good this Christmas.
Ish ...i would 100% buy your book if you narrated it
Joe not thinking about all the "employees he sees every day. Fast food, factories, Amazon delivery, Starbucks, gas stations
This Is America was 🔥🔥🔥 though 😂
Thank you Ish, in East Flatbush they are building homes for $1m or more. Very few people that currently live here can afford that.
It’s so funny when Ice get in his arguing bag
“IDC WHAT ISH DO!!!” Lmaoo
I’m glad that you took my advice and got rid of the problem.
The way joe says HOST is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂lol I love it
Ice having so much push back for any type of positivity is mad weird. Like damn bro you really hate positivity huh?
I hate when flip wants to know about everyone else’s realtionship but as soon as you bring his up he gets mad. Something sounds fishy in his marriage and I hope it’s not nasty work
“So the running back is the one that run the ball right?” Lmaoooo 🤣 Thats a crazy question from a grown man
On the college topic *Ish* is speaking to “over-saturation” of the market. Too many sellers, not enough buyers. There needs to be a good balance to stop the loss of jobs & product value.
Ish is right though without workers the world stands still if everyone is a entrepreneur who’s driving the garbage truck, who’s doing the gardening, who’s catching the fish, who’s working on the ships with the heavy machinery, who ls building the skyscrapers? although we can agree Ai and machines can do a few jobs people are still needed to make the world go around efficiently the fact that if a machine breaks down a human is needed to fix it ends that whole debate
Everybody can’t nor want to run a business. Some people are more content with just having a job
I mess with Ice, but as far as his aggressive takes on what he cares and doesn't care about, it reminds me of my 5 year old cousin running around, loud as hell, letting everyone know how much he doesn't care about your nerves.
Well, maybe he doesn’t care . LOL
Ish is right. In order for capitalism to sustain, you need a strong labor force that is underpaid for their labor. So, to Ish’s point, if everyone in our country was an entrepreneur/business owner, we would not sustain in a capitalistic society.
Um no.
@@flame984 umm, yes.
That’s what sucks!!! To be a strong good worker and be underpaid where u can’t pay your bills but bust your ass.. it’s funny as I thought and am writing this ish just backed up what I’m saying by saying the same exact thing.. That’s why people hate the 9-5.. especially MINORITIES.. They call it working for the white man!!
That Donald Glover song was fire and impactful idk what these dudes talking about at all.
Extremely mature pod. Enjoyed the financial talk; the segment on Drake/ Gambino; trans teachers and Ice's arguments 😂
This pod was good as hell. Shi had me talkin to my phone lmao
Bro CTown takes me back to the early 90s back in Brooklyn 😂, Didn't realize that they still exist 🔥🔥
Rappers should be the last people we look to, to speak on social issues
Newark boys got Joe on the This is America topic
Ice was strong and wrong on the donald glover stuff
Ice doesn't like "This is America" because it mocks the music and culture he loves. The same music and culture thats destroyed the African community. The same music and culture created and supported by American. There are two perspectives of that song. One is mocking it, one is living it. It takes maturity and critical thinking skills to see and respect the mocking perspective.
Lol@it takes maturity and critical to see the mocking perspective thinking skills. So youre the smartest n most seasoned person in this convo? Or in the world? Ive never heard that perspective from anyone. Not even Childish Gambino himself. What happened to interpretations being speculative when it comes to art? Just we all dumb cause we aint reach as far as you did?
Ice is just being captain literal man, like the other reply to your comment lol I dont think ice/ish are counting the intro as part of the "song" as whole.. as the intro is some beautiful wakanda shit that would be our "hip hop" today (alt world) if the slave ships was never a thing that happened.. & the beat switch into the first verse is the 'multiverse' moment where the song "mocks" today's culture. (all while being extremly catchy)
..and I like all the John wick rap music too, but the song is a masterpiece
*PS as I unpaused the pod to just pause again 😂.. the humming shit ice is hating on is ironic cause thats young thugs 1st and only grammy winning credit, for HUMMING on the song.. lmao
who knows what young thugs music would sound like if black people didn't get to America until early/mid 1900s 🤣
Overheard a conversation downtown Boston; a young women and man said "can't wait for public school graduation. We need more workers"
They all lied. Not one of them would be comfortable with that teacher in a classroom with their child 8 hours a day for an entire year.
Joe talking like his business of podcasting won't get affected when AI hits.
It won’t, AI is artificial intelligence.
You wanna watch a person or a cartoon? Lol
FACTS.
@@Va.2Azeveryone doesn’t watch some people only listening
The ring question had me cracking up.
I ain't gna lie, the JDP been dropping so much content, I'm actually behind in episodes. No other podcast gets my attention until I finish all the new content. No Brilliant Idiots, no MDWOG, no DrinkChamps. Only It Is What It Is and that's sports 😂
Ices finite resources take was spot on. Ish said what I was too. Ice just added to the point in a really important way. Great and necessary convo
Ish is wrong there is not scientist saying we have more water now and overpopulation is not about land space is about resources
24:40 - Joe calling himself “ground level” with that water side view behind him is hilarious 🤣
Joe not understanding the entrepreneur convo was aggravating the hell out of me!!!
Teacher Bae bought her ass, then chose to be a teacher. That's wild.
Consistency over everything 💯
I’ve been getting to these pods back to back to back. Somebody doing they job lol
Lmfaoooo nah getting the f word off with the bleeps be killing me 2:15
It’s like this guy said I don’t want everyone to be bosses because who’s gonna make my burgers!! 🤣🤣
Joe always speaking from a rich perspective you will always need workers everyone can’t be bosses who are you selling to man? It’s simple as that.
I hope he remains "comfortable"for his sake
You will sale to consumers… guns and butter
And everyone doesn’t want that. You’re right.
@@sax_25 agreed a lot don’t want all that responsibility it’s stressful to some.
When Flip don't talk this podcast is golden!!
Facts. All he does is puppet Joe lol
Dam! I want to be a fly 🪰on the wall when they bleep out the conversations 🤔🫢😂
I’m 29 and moving from Jersey to Florida about four years ago I was mad confused at the whole separate bagger thing
Parks voice In the back ground sound like a character
Played This Is America on the way home from work.
C'mon son....you gotta get the wings chopped up😅Its like eatin hot wings. And put bbq, hot sauce, ketchup on it.....on the fries too.
Scale. Everyone can’t make, package, ship, sell AND profit off their own box of cereal every morning. That takes a work force(s) on multiple levels.
Thought y'all had bino on for a second 😭
LOL waiting for mega church RICO's was the most hilarious statement of this episode
People greatly overestimate what AI can actually do. People talk about it like we live in Star Trek times and it’s just not that nor is it anywhere near that
Even in the Jetsons, George still had to go to work!
If everyone was an entrepreneur, we would find ways to redefine what we mean when we use the word entrepreneur. If entrepreneurship was the new baseline, then those defying the norm would perhaps be the new entrepreneurs. Really this question is philosophical in nature and doesn't have a right or wrong answer.
Right👌🏾
Travel point talk was elite
The last 20 seconds of the 2hr 45min mark.. that’s art!💀😂💀😂
N once upon a time Joe would say some wild shit 💀.. make you look at your phone. No bleeps in the vicinity of the pod 💯
Most Entrepreneurs End Up Filing for Bankruptcy
Ice won’t even listen to Afrobeats. It’s no wonder he thinks that song is trash! He is crazy for Childish Gambino to make this masterpiece and then have Young Thug on the ad Libs? Genius.
School curriculum has absolutely changed. Parents need to be involved
The song goes with the video. That's why the lyrics sound like how they do. For visual pauses.
Ish love that rockefeller quote say it every episode
Got damn this was a good Pod fellas.
250k is not a baseline for a bachelors
Flip is funny. He rolls with whoever is making the better point. Whether it’s right or wrong. 🤷🏽♂️😆😆😆