How To Buy Steel Like A Pro - STOP! Paying Too Much For Steel.

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  • @tnhomestead
    @tnhomestead Před 2 lety +81

    Don't forget local fabrication shops. There are no steel suppliers within 60 miles of me, but a local shop makes farm equipment, and sells steel to the public. I always check their discard bin for shorter pieces!

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 2 lety +4

      great suggestion

    • @starhawke380
      @starhawke380 Před 2 lety +2

      If they have steel and sell steel to the public, are they not a Steel Supplier?

    • @s1krrpilot
      @s1krrpilot Před 2 lety +3

      @@starhawke380 I would say not, if they don't sell bundles or gross amounts

    • @johnmackey2240
      @johnmackey2240 Před 2 lety +8

      I work at a small welding shop. We get deliveries of steel every other week, and we have helped out people locally by adding whatever they need to our orders. It can be a massive savings for them, and it's really no trouble for us.

  • @Matt_Barnes
    @Matt_Barnes Před 3 lety +84

    Among the most valuable 10 minutes I've spent attending CZcams University learning how to weld. I feel more than confident enough to walk into my local steel supplier and fake it 'til I make it. Thanks Doug!

  • @cberge8
    @cberge8 Před 2 lety +22

    I needed some beefy angle iron a while back, found a 3ft length at a local chain store for $37.50. Called the local steel yard, and was quoted a 20ft joint for $78. The steel yard even offered to cut to my lengths required at no additional costs.

    • @chrishayes5755
      @chrishayes5755 Před 2 lety +1

      always try to support local companies vs megacorps / multinationals 👍love the local scrap yard

    • @SegoMan
      @SegoMan Před 2 lety +3

      @@chrishayes5755 Some are great to deal with and some are rip offs that charge more than new steel prices..

  • @aceroadholder2185
    @aceroadholder2185 Před 2 lety +27

    Cold rolled steel is not annealed unless ordered as such. In fabrication this may not matter much but remember that Cold roll is highly stressed internally from the forming process. If Cold roll steel is machined the material will wiggle and squirm as the stresses are relieved. The main result is warping of thin sections cut from thicker plate or bars of steel. Annealing or stress relieving avoids this problem.

  • @tjmattan9476
    @tjmattan9476 Před 22 dny +1

    Teaching a man to fish in a concise fashion, thank you. You have earned my CZcams subscription

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 17 dny

      Thank you very much. It is greatly appreciated

  • @LawtonDigital
    @LawtonDigital Před 2 lety +9

    100% spot on. I asked one of our university's welding instructors where I could buy from a supplier, and he gave me a name before I could even blink. It was that easy. I compared prices with our box store, and the markup was just like you said.

  • @ajaxmuchacha3758
    @ajaxmuchacha3758 Před rokem +1

    This man is the metal Jesus. Thank you very much for the info!

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před rokem

      haha 😄 you are very welcome. I'm glad it helped

  • @monstersofthemidway7125
    @monstersofthemidway7125 Před 2 lety +6

    30 years ago, I used to work for a local steel supplier in sales. Despite only doing this for four years, I learned a lot and found my aquired knowledge to be very beneficial later on in life for a variety of home projects. Your video remnded me of those old days and found your explsination and presentation to be spot-on. BTW, I still find my old Ryerson and Central Steel & Wire supply catalogs to be very helpful when i need steel. Great video!

  • @lyndenhovell7997
    @lyndenhovell7997 Před 2 lety +16

    Very good explanation. Not to muddy the waters but.....Pipe is used a lot in general fabrications, not just for liquids and gases. Case in point: most industrial hand rails/guard rails are made from 1-1/4" pipe. It fits the code diameter requirements and is cheaper than tube. Your steel supplier should have it and they will call it "pipe size tube". It will not be coated with lacquer (as is regular pipe) and will also not be threaded on the ends. But it will be sold in 21 foot lengths, where tube is usually sold in 20 foot lengths. And...most "process" piping (such as ink in a printing facility or hydraulic oil in a manufacturing plant will be "plumbed" with tube so that the system can be designed/manufactured to handle the characteristics of the fluid such as the pressure, volume, acidity, etc. that the piping will need to handle. It takes years to pick up on all these quirks of the metals industry. (40 plus years experience here.) Thanks again, good video.

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 2 lety +7

      Thanks for adding the extra info. Sometimes its hard to include every little detail and still keep peoples attention. The comment section helps to fill in the blanks for sure.

    • @lesvickroy6537
      @lesvickroy6537 Před 2 lety +2

      In my area this is referred to as structural pipe. It usually does not meet the certification requirements for schedule pipe. It is often used in construction for posts. Great point as is typically much cheaper.

    • @s1krrpilot
      @s1krrpilot Před 2 lety +1

      man i learned quick, but i had an absolute angel for asteel supplier, when i was new to the game i went in and asked for a tab but i said can i borrow x dollars, this lady started to pick up her purse to pull cash out and give it to me, i said no no no i need steel it more valuable to both of us that way... the gesture of getting her purse though, ill never ever use anyone but her for my supplier

  • @markman63
    @markman63 Před 2 lety +15

    All my steel shops sell everything at 20’ length and charge $5 per cut. I bring my cordless cut off wheel and cut them in half in the parking lot.

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 2 lety +4

      My supplier will do one cut for free for hauling purposes

    • @s1krrpilot
      @s1krrpilot Před 2 lety +1

      @@ArtfullyRogue all of a sudden my supplier looks more like a thief

    • @stich1960
      @stich1960 Před 2 lety

      Suppliers here do one free torch cut

    • @rich.trails
      @rich.trails Před měsícem

      My local supplier charges $5 per cut and you have to come back usually the next day. They do offer 10 or 12 ft lengths for the same price per foot. BTW a prius can fit 10ft lengths with the hatch closed, passenger seat down and material resting on the dash.

  • @thatguythatdoesstuff7448
    @thatguythatdoesstuff7448 Před 2 lety +4

    The biggest obstacle for hobbyists, or just non commercial buyers, is the steel yard doesn't want to deal with you. Even if they sell to the public, you're considered a nuisance.
    When I lived in Phoenix, I finally found a supplier that was always cool to me every time I walked in, whether I was buying $30 off the rem racks or needed $300 in material for a project.
    Since I moved to the Denver area, I can't find a supplier. Even the LWS around here are manned by a-holes. I've been here going on 3 years and haven't welded a single project.

    • @jamesthomas4080
      @jamesthomas4080 Před 2 lety

      Can you share the name of the place you liked in Phoenix?

    • @thatguythatdoesstuff7448
      @thatguythatdoesstuff7448 Před 2 lety

      @@jamesthomas4080 Southwest Steel Sales.
      Deer Valley Rd and I-17.

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage Před 2 lety

      I end up buying a lot on eBay, because believe it or not it's cheaper than hardware stores and at least they aren't jerks like local suppliers.

    • @s1krrpilot
      @s1krrpilot Před 2 lety

      never had an issue with my suppliers

  • @FormerlyKnownAsAndrew
    @FormerlyKnownAsAndrew Před 2 lety +15

    Hey man, you did a really great job with this video. It was really concise. Just bought a welder after years of contemplating. I am a woodworker but I wanted to dabble in metal. I appreciate this information.

    • @troybrouillard5266
      @troybrouillard5266 Před 6 měsíci

      Welcome to welding! If you're doing MIG try out some of the new flux core wire. It works pretty well. Solid wire with shielding gas is always cleaner, but that flux core stuff works well outside especially if there's a breeze where gas can shield as well. Usually push with gas, drag with flux core. I'm no expert just a hobby welder. Have fun.

  • @wrobelmike
    @wrobelmike Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks, Doug. My first buy was "whatever is standard for this project"... The guy at the steel supply was nice enough not to roll his eyes but I felt the "Ugh, another noob" vibe. They were cool, tho, and the next time I knew a bit more. Specificity is the name of the game with metal.
    Thanks for sharing your pro tips, they're invaluable.

  • @StoryOfJames.
    @StoryOfJames. Před rokem +2

    The way you relayed this info was easily understandable and comprehensive. Thank you!

  • @BorisSpark
    @BorisSpark Před 2 lety +1

    Cold rolled is formed cold, there as the hot rolled is shaped when hot nothing to do with annealing or heat treatment, heat treatment is post processing after forming process.

  • @munichrebel1993
    @munichrebel1993 Před 3 lety +4

    Your one of the coolest customers I've ever dealt with bud! You've always been a great guy to deal with, keep up the great work!

  • @janeblogs324
    @janeblogs324 Před 2 lety +4

    The key to cheap steel is live in Australia.
    Over here you can ask for downgrade (rusty offcuts) if you are really strapped for cash

  • @mikec.9177
    @mikec.9177 Před 2 lety +3

    Just keep in mind if you buy at a steel yard and your material is going to 20 to 24 foot lengths sheet steel will be 4 ft by 8 ft so you need a trailer or truck to haul it home or pay extra per cut.

    • @phiksit
      @phiksit Před 2 lety

      yup, my local steel place charges $5 per cut so sometimes it's cheaper from the bigbox if I only need a small amount, plus the pieces will normally be straighter. I can get good deals if I can find something useful in their remnants rack though.

  • @sween187
    @sween187 Před 2 lety +5

    Also you have extruded tubing and welded, so one will have a seem inside (as the outside will be ground smooth), so if you want sliding pards you don't want this seem inside, as it's a pain to remove

  • @bmiller1958
    @bmiller1958 Před rokem +1

    EXTREMELY HELPFUL!!! I’m a newb just learning. Now, I just need to rewatch it a couple times and TAKE NOTES!!!!
    Thanks again!

  • @sk8eroy
    @sk8eroy Před 2 lety +1

    First time I've ever both liked and subscribed based on 1 video. Very well laid out, simple and to the point, easy to understand, ad toward the end.

  • @mrrberger
    @mrrberger Před 2 lety +1

    Did this several years ago 1: cheaper pricing and cropping service 2: delivery to my site 3: For small orders I price leverage my bigbox store down to steel suppliers price 4: Asked steel supplier their scrap yard contact, called, mentioned steel supplier, asked for access large scrap sections my steel supplier doesn't do. Now I have access to steel of any heft or girth at great pricing.

  • @osmanvincent1975
    @osmanvincent1975 Před 2 lety

    Sometimes recycling scrap years may have what you need.
    I am in the San Francisco Bay Area. If I need a bunch, I buy from a wholesaler in Fresno, a 180 miles away. It is delivered to my door the next morning for a twenty dollar delivery charge. Far cheaper than any local supplier.

  • @joshuacaylor881
    @joshuacaylor881 Před 11 měsíci

    Very helpful knowledge. The last part was a nice finish to the video. I work in new residential AC electrical warehouse and get asked dumb questions as well

  • @pandemicgarage1316
    @pandemicgarage1316 Před 3 lety +5

    Truth. I bought like a 4 or 5’ piece of steel at Lowe’s to practice welding (hey, I was in a rush). Then I took it to work and spent 20 minutes cutting it into welding practice coupons. I just got done placing an order for 12 feet bar of flat stainless, cut into 24 blanks for not a whole heck of a lot more. They’ll call me when it’s ready to pick up.

  • @photorealm
    @photorealm Před 2 lety +2

    All these years and I never realized tubing is measured OD and Pipe ID. Thinking back it makes sense. Thanks for the tips.

    • @dalentoews3418
      @dalentoews3418 Před 2 lety

      Pipe is based on the id of schedule 40 I believe meaning schedule 80 of the same diameter will have a smaller id. The purpose of this is so threads or but welds are interchangeable.

  • @ElizabethGreene
    @ElizabethGreene Před 11 měsíci +1

    Clark iron and metal, Murfreesboro TN. Scrap is $0.25 per pound and new steel is reasonable. I love them so much.

  • @kevinlatulippe6944
    @kevinlatulippe6944 Před 2 lety +3

    I get my stuff at work, we build garbage containers of every shape and size. I can get a veriaty of cut offs of all kinds of different steel at a bit more than what they get for scrap
    SWEET 😎

  • @CraigHollabaugh
    @CraigHollabaugh Před 3 lety +3

    Also ask your steel supplier to see their 'drop room'. Drops are the waste side of their sheer. Our yard has an entire drop room, where the drops are sorted and marked at various sizes. Very nice. Tell the cashier that you're buying drops, not sheered sheet. Thanks for the video, got here from your rusted content.

  • @bbarker5766
    @bbarker5766 Před 2 lety +2

    As a machinist I have heard and used the word stock many times to describe what was wanted even by some metal suppliers. IE: 3/4 round stock, hex stock, square stock... that us common for solid material and like you said pipe or tubing for those needs. Nice video but you might want to mention the different types/grades of mild steels and other metals as well as annealed/normalized or hardened. There is a lot of different types and it can get confusing especially for someone that is newer to metal work. Thanks for sharing this info 👍

  • @ToxicSocietyTroll
    @ToxicSocietyTroll Před 2 lety +1

    Some recycling companies will keep remnants and sell to the public per pound. Most fab shops I know will always use drops down the road so they don't really discount prices.

  • @daddydawg1902
    @daddydawg1902 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the valuable information Doug. I'm an Old guy (67) about to start Hobby welding and was surprised when I got to the Big-Box Store and saw the costs of Angle and Square pieces... There is a Metal Scrap Yard less than 2 miles from me and I will be checking with them to see if they sell their scraps to Private buyers. I've also been buying small metal objects from thrift stores to cut up myself for some practice or Project pieces... Thanks again-- Jake

  • @jessejohnson159
    @jessejohnson159 Před 2 lety +1

    Great info. Been doing metal work for 50+ years as a hobby and to fab stuff for myself and friends. Your info to the 'newbie' was PERFECT! 😍

  • @archangel20031
    @archangel20031 Před 2 lety +1

    All to often they have minimums that the home fabricator will never meet!

  • @artsparkllc1369
    @artsparkllc1369 Před rokem

    searched hours for this and found you i appreciate what you shared here

  • @turboflush
    @turboflush Před 2 lety +1

    My supplier has the warehouse open to public. Its nice when working on a project to put hands on the material. They charge by weight and material and extra to modify. The standard lengths.
    Box store is well over 3x the cost. Though handy id you are already there and need just a 3' stick.

  • @64maxpower
    @64maxpower Před 3 lety +8

    I really really appreciate you making this video. As a carpenter I know there's terms and jargon that was always a mystery to me regarding metal material.
    Can you do a short video how you build those bad ass doors? Are they always barn sliders or do you swing them too? I was thinking instead of building them you could get commercial metal doors and rust them as needed.

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 3 lety +2

      I do have a couple of door videos here on my channel. If I could find a steel door supplier, I'd consider using them for sure

  • @bunyanforgings7849
    @bunyanforgings7849 Před 3 lety +5

    I usually get a huge kick out of requesting a current market price for either adamantium or mithril when getting prices for steel.

  • @kiritrosario
    @kiritrosario Před 2 lety +1

    you are a great teacher

  • @shimaalcarrim7949
    @shimaalcarrim7949 Před rokem +1

    I went to school to study Mechanical Engineering, but I think this video was more informative to learn about Metals

  • @barryphilrush719
    @barryphilrush719 Před 3 lety +2

    Great Video Doug , Good Info . I've been Lucky so Far , Yard Sales , Plus trading with Friends !
    Always Good too see you
    Talk Soon Barry!!!

  • @MichaelRoachWV
    @MichaelRoachWV Před 11 měsíci

    Even better option: Find a shop that stocks and be nice and friendly. I get mine from a mobile welding company. I just bought a 2' x 3' sheared plate of 5/16 for $62 lol. In my area everyone calls remnants "drops"

  • @territodude
    @territodude Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great video, thanks for all the info, very helpful!

  • @Dragon90815a
    @Dragon90815a Před 2 lety +1

    Been years (30) just got a welder. Thanks for the update. Glad they are not calling it stock anymore.

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 2 lety

      It's been 30 years since you've welded? Welcome back to it :)

  • @daiiahi3403
    @daiiahi3403 Před rokem +1

    Problem is the local steel suppliers here sell in bulk only. They won't sell by the piece.

  • @precisionarc
    @precisionarc Před 3 lety +2

    I am fortunate to live near a major metal supplier has an "outlet" warehouse with a huge selection of alloys, shapes and sizes. Good info Doug.

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 3 lety +2

      Yeah having access to more options is great

  • @threestarsandasling
    @threestarsandasling Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thank you so much for making this! Subscribed!

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 8 měsíci

      Thanks so much for the sub, it's greatly appreciated

  • @jacemusgrove3073
    @jacemusgrove3073 Před 3 lety +3

    Yupp. Accurate info! Personally I get most of mine from the local shop scrap pile. Ocassionally order 20 or 24 foot pieces. Most of my projects don't need any particular shape. Most are scrap welded together just to support something else. Do appreciate the info tho.

  • @jeffbaker8039
    @jeffbaker8039 Před 2 lety

    I have owned and ran a small welding shop for over 25 yrs. I have gotten a kick out of customers bringing there own materials in my shop that they have recently purchased from the big box retail stores. I tell them how much it would have cost from us...just so they are aware..... Next time they come in they purchased it from us.
    Yes I'm still making some money off of it. Mainly because I'm purchasing larger quantities.
    Thanks for the video.
    I hope many listen and give there local welding some business. Treat them with some respect and they'll save you $$ every time.
    It's why most of us got in to the business to begin with. To fight the throw away world and super inflation.

    • @s1krrpilot
      @s1krrpilot Před 2 lety

      man how much you spend buying bundles/grosses?

  • @MissionRestomod
    @MissionRestomod Před 2 lety +4

    Shout out to Rose Metal Products in Springfield MO keeping me stocked with steel for my projects at a reasonable price! They also brake/fab longer pieces of sheetmetal when I need it!

  • @databang
    @databang Před rokem +2

    Hey, thanks! Very helpful.

  • @brianpatrick8441
    @brianpatrick8441 Před 2 lety +1

    The way i would call that order is..
    I need 1 stick of 1 inch Square tube 16 gauge P&O either 20' or 24' or cut in half
    You dont call out decimals only gauges anywhere 28 to 7 gauge after that its fractions.
    You dont call out cold rolled in sguare tube products only pickeled and oiled " P&O" or black "with oxide"
    Always ask for P&O in 16 gauge you will be lucky if they have it in 14 gauge mainly because its usually so much cleaner to work with by wiping down with a degreaser or acetone black you have to scrub wuth scotch brite to get clean. The only time i specifically call out cold rolled is in sheet or bar
    You. Square or round bar in cold rolled is very accurate in size shape and straightness and nice to work with but now its expensive. Thats how i been doing it for 30 years

  • @fredrodriguez3913
    @fredrodriguez3913 Před rokem +1

    Best intro steel summary ever

  • @BullMtnBilly-vm1wf
    @BullMtnBilly-vm1wf Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks! Didn't know about the rusting difference with hot & cold rolled.

  • @GAIS414
    @GAIS414 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks a lot man. Really looking forward to sharing the steel yard with a bunch of amateurs. There's a reason why big box stores are more expensive. The hassle of dealing with those customers makes the profit go out the door.

  • @stevenpalmore4299
    @stevenpalmore4299 Před rokem +1

    Went local steel supplier several years ago ..4x4x1/4 angle iron ..$134 a stick ...thought I was going to faint .
    Was building a trailer hitch ..found a Reese class 3 hitch all the hardware powder coated $93 free delivery . And I didn't have to spend the day scrambling around in the drive way . What a deal !

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před rokem

      Perfect! Always good to check out other options

    • @rich.trails
      @rich.trails Před měsícem

      Hitches are a commodity and you can't beat the value for the engineering and work put into them.

  • @nelsenstudios2853
    @nelsenstudios2853 Před 3 lety +5

    Great advice Doug. The scrap bin is always my ‘go to’ section!

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 3 lety

      For sure! that always my first stop.

    • @jaredhammonds8255
      @jaredhammonds8255 Před 3 lety +1

      Dude I modified a workout bench for 3 bucks worth of steel thanks to the scrap bin

  • @yodagoba2671
    @yodagoba2671 Před 3 lety +1

    found your channel by chance. watched a couple of your videos, but this video made me subscribe. honest, clear, great better than hgtv quality.

  • @bob_frazier
    @bob_frazier Před 2 lety +2

    This was awesome.

  • @JourneyOnLife
    @JourneyOnLife Před rokem +1

    Nice and well done : ) thanks for the info!

  • @mitchd949
    @mitchd949 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent video! It's always nice to learn from a professional so that I can talk to other professionals in a language they will understand.

  • @davidfrank2824
    @davidfrank2824 Před 2 lety

    Great video. I know a lot of people don't know where to go to pick up steel. Until your video I had no idea that the big box stores were selling steel. I've seen some of their smaller stuff but nothing that grabbed my attention.
    I am very fortunate. One of my closest friend in this world owns a large welding business and has locations across the state. He mostly uses gas welders and they are all stick welders in all of his rotation. I fix his machines and do some welding when it comes to technical things.
    In return I don't have to buy any metal I don't even need to have my bottles refilled. Whenever I need something I ride to the location that's closest to his in my house. I understand he has ever asked me to do is not take enough steel to build a good size shed. I also was lucky that he used to have a brake machine at the one location. One of his employees had taken the big forklift and nailed it. He did so much damage that it would happen easier to buy a new one. They never used it that much right now get that service from the steel yard. Just like you said you need to ask different steel yards that what I call places that sell steel.
    I really like your video so much so that I definitely hit the like button and I most definitely hit the subscribe button. I really like how you broke everything down on what to look for when buying steel.

  • @solexxx8588
    @solexxx8588 Před 2 lety

    Buy the 20 or 24 foot length and cut it in half so you accumulate the round/square that you want. If you have a variety at home you can build anything with a welder and a grinder. Get a plasma torch if you do lots of cutting.

  • @Paiadakine
    @Paiadakine Před 2 lety +1

    Industrial metal supply in SD and OC has a geed selection of cutoffs and scrap for DIY fabricators.

  • @dorianfulton7168
    @dorianfulton7168 Před 2 lety

    Superior video: organized, concise, no dopey music, presented well.

  • @aquadoc4080
    @aquadoc4080 Před rokem +1

    Very informative and well-organized. Thank you for sharing. 👍

  • @ScubaSteve1794
    @ScubaSteve1794 Před 2 lety

    Also hex bar, rec tubing, c channel, I and H beam, the list goes on

  • @944tim
    @944tim Před 2 lety

    so nice to get real information. too many years is faking my way through it.
    perhaps a video on all the places one can find cheap or free metal.

  • @geeache1891
    @geeache1891 Před 2 lety

    Tube is also used for liquids and gases, particularly when fitted. Even high pressure precision ..tubing..

  • @angelhernandez8386
    @angelhernandez8386 Před 2 lety

    Metal supermarkets sells to public they are awesome they have a 10'break ,10'shear plasma machine beams angles flat bars sheets of all kinds alum , cold,hot galv,stainless. And even cut whatever your need even a 1/8 piece they even fabrication awesome place to go

  • @ifitsnotbrokenfixit1193

    Good info. Don't forget get to ask about seconds. Normally alot cheaper. Alot of the time the its just damaged from shipping and handling. They just want to get rid of it.

  • @tomfull6637
    @tomfull6637 Před 3 lety +11

    Thank you for your generosity to share your art techniques. It’s like attending a paid course in metal art. So it felt like decency to support your channel! I simply saw it as a course fee as it gave me so much useful knowledge. Thx again and have a peek in your patreon list and you’ll find my real name there.
    K rgds/A
    Sweden

  • @reality150tv
    @reality150tv Před 2 lety

    Ty for the video, and yes steel in box stores are very high.

  • @kimmer6
    @kimmer6 Před 2 lety

    Great presentation! Box stores can be a cheaper source if you look into the Electrical department. They have round tubing EMT and conduit in 10 foot lengths in a variety of diameters if you don't use it for pipe. The conduit ends are straight threaded, not tapered, and will leak, the wall thickness is less. Its still very useful and they have pre bent 45 and 90 degree pieces available. In the same rack is steel Uni Strut and 10 foot lengths of 1/2'' Allthread that is much cheaper than the 3 foot lengths.

  • @jamiebennett6354
    @jamiebennett6354 Před 7 měsíci +1

    our steel mill has a minimum purchase of $300, that's a problem when I need a $20 part

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 7 měsíci

      Most definitely. I know some junkyards offer remnants, maybe an option if you have any in your area.

  • @Big_Bump
    @Big_Bump Před 2 lety

    Dude, thank you. you just summed up so many things i was looking for. i appreciate it.

  • @shawng7902
    @shawng7902 Před rokem +1

    Exhaust "pipe" roll bar "tube". Watched a "way smarter than me" engineer find out the hard way. Steel workers were mad as hell. I watched all day while they tried to fix his huge computer stand.

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před rokem

      A little knowledge goes a long way for sure and cuts down on costly mistakes

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo. Před 3 lety +1

    Doug very well said there. Great advice thank you so much. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Very helpful video. Thank you can't wait to see ur next videos. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God bless.

  • @MrAtaripitbull
    @MrAtaripitbull Před 2 lety

    This is all information that I already knew, but the way you explained it for people who don't know much about steel was perfect. I've just subscribe cause I'm always trying to learn new techniques in steel works..

  • @Thorhian
    @Thorhian Před 2 lety

    I had to learn this stuff on my own a couple of years ago building a small cnc milling machine. Good information.

  • @gordjohnson70
    @gordjohnson70 Před 2 lety +2

    Great informative video. A piece of 2" round tubing will often slide inside a 2" round pipe. That might be worth demonstrating.

    • @Nightgig
      @Nightgig Před 2 lety +1

      A lot of things he spoke about could have used illustration instead of just a video of him talking. Otherwise, it was very informative.

  • @MakersBestFriend
    @MakersBestFriend Před 3 lety +2

    I needed this - thanks for a great video !!

  • @vc1586
    @vc1586 Před 2 lety

    Just what I was looking for, great vid

  • @softwarephil1709
    @softwarephil1709 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Very helpful. 👍

  • @nathanhale7444
    @nathanhale7444 Před 2 lety

    There's a great little steel supplier in my city that is also a salvage buyer/scrapyard. They sell new uncut pieces as well as random scrap.

  • @bjbrooks2635
    @bjbrooks2635 Před 3 lety +2

    Very informative Doug, keep putting new content up and your channel will grow... I will continue to “like” and look forward to more.

  • @fallen_entity
    @fallen_entity Před 2 měsíci

    this is gonna help me a lot with “fixing” my komatsu D355-A

  • @victorsr6708
    @victorsr6708 Před 2 lety

    Great video! As a tradesman picking up welding as a hobby I really appreciate it. I know what to ask for when I walk into a HVAC or plumbing supplier but no idea going into a metal supplier.

  • @starhawke380
    @starhawke380 Před 2 lety

    My local steel supplier keeps bankers hours... Mon - Fri 8-4 closed on weekends. Not a great option for someone who works for a living and plays with steel on his time off...

  • @Jollyprez
    @Jollyprez Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the info, I have a project that needs steel or aluminum ( needs testing ), and knowing the pricing helps a lot. My needs are simple, overall, but not being in the business, this video really cemented things in my mind.

  • @americansteelornamentalmet7271

    Very helpful! Thanks for making this! :)

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 3 lety

      You're so welcome! Thanks for checking it out!

  • @MrSaemichlaus
    @MrSaemichlaus Před 2 lety +3

    Also, make sure you ask around for five-sided hex stock. This is material with a minor production defect and they sell it at almost half price. Thank me later :)

    • @richhagenchicago
      @richhagenchicago Před 2 lety +2

      Since hex stock has six sides by definition, I am not sure what good asking for pent stock would be. We did use a custom five sided bar stock for some fire hydrant valves once though. :-)

    • @phillhuddleston9445
      @phillhuddleston9445 Před 2 lety +1

      Don't forget the three sided square stock while you're at it 😃

    • @s1krrpilot
      @s1krrpilot Před 2 lety

      you know you really shit in someone cereal when they tried this right?

  • @Alientraveler003
    @Alientraveler003 Před 2 lety

    Havent seen a cool guy video in a wile ,thank you sir for your time and keep ‘‘em coming

  • @johnsteele6257
    @johnsteele6257 Před 2 lety +2

    Hmmmm, Apparently you have not tried to buy small quantities in CNY. The metal suppliers have made it tough to buy stock from them. When you factor in the added time to go to the supplier cutting charges etc. the price discrepancy starts to evaporate.

  • @speedbuggy6269
    @speedbuggy6269 Před 2 lety +1

    In my area we have Queen City Steel, the people as well as the owner have very little people skills. As far as his “remnants” are concerned, he charges the same as though it was being cut from the original, even if it has been outside for over 3 years and rusted. Ask me how I know. I mainly go to his yard to pick through the scrap pile, his scrap pile consists of contractors dropping of dump truck loads of used steel construction debris. That pile pretty much sits next to his remnants pile. So, yeah, I keep an eye on it. Every once in a while I’ll ask how much something costs, then we get into a “debate” over the price, I have only gotten him to concede once. He tells me every time I ask about a piece, “I can’t give it to you for a lower price because it came out of our shop from a full pipe, sheet” , etc… it is what it is…
    The reason I go there is because he’s the only steel supplier within miles. I’ve tried quite a few things over the past few years to “soften” them up, nothing works.
    It’s too expensive for shipping for me to purchase from online suppliers.
    Anyway, I thought I would mention that I thought the video was great, very informative!!! However, one thing about the video that I noticed was missing was the difference between ferrous and nonferrous metals. Many people who are just starting out may not know what that is as well as what it means.
    Maybe in a follow up video.

    • @chrishayes5755
      @chrishayes5755 Před 2 lety

      you need to watch haggling videos then REALLY make him sweat 😅🤣

    • @speedbuggy6269
      @speedbuggy6269 Před 2 lety

      @@chrishayes5755 that’s a great idea 👍 I’ll do that very thing. I could use all the help I can get when it comes to these guys. As a heads up, I was being very polite when referring to the guys attitudes that work there due to the nature of this platform, and the fact that I still have to go there. You never know who sees these videos and reads the comments…🤣😂
      By the way, even as far as their scrap pile is concerned, let’s just say that they aren’t very forgiving when it comes to the prices that they sell that stuff at, even though they get it for next to nothing.

  • @RCP138
    @RCP138 Před 3 lety +1

    Great info. Waste not and save money at the same time.

  • @usernamemykel
    @usernamemykel Před 11 měsíci

    You produce an excellent video in all respects.

  • @johnalbrecht6
    @johnalbrecht6 Před 2 lety

    This is one of the best informative videos I’ve seen on CZcams! Awesome content, it is really helping for my bus build project!

    • @ArtfullyRogue
      @ArtfullyRogue  Před 2 lety +1

      Awesome, thank you! Glad it helped! I'm actually about to start my bus build as well. Raising the roof on a short bus :)

    • @johnalbrecht6
      @johnalbrecht6 Před 2 lety

      @@ArtfullyRogue Thats amazing! Have fun during the build! I started to put videos on the bus build if you're interested. Hopefully there is something for you as useful as your video was for me.

  • @nussberger
    @nussberger Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the great info!

  • @melgross
    @melgross Před 11 měsíci

    Yeah, great, but many of us live in areas that don’t sell to the public, and if they do, many of us don’t have cars, so we need to get it shipped. Shipping often costs more than the metal, aluminum, steel or stainless. I usually end up buying a bunch of 8 foot pieces as the shipping per piece goes down the more you buy.
    Cold rolled has more processes so it costs more. But cold rolled has much more stress. Like wood, if you machine one side, the cold rolled will bend whereas the hot rolled rarely will. For weekend warriors who need a piece here and there, big box stores, if they have that large display you showed, are better. You can just go and usually get exactly what you need, plus screws and whatever you need for your project. If it’s a simple project, that’s a no brainer. But if you’re building something complex, the amount of material might be a lot more than you expect. If so, you will spend a small fortune at a big box store.