yeh, that's like your opinion man. Four stroke sound is just lame, it sounds the same through out the RPM's, just louder. And you can't really hear the power in the sound of it (unless a multicylinder one) Don't get all butthurt over this, it's my opinion I would like to know why you like four stroke more than two stroke
don't you really have any good arguments? The two stroke is superior to the four stroke. If you didn't know, the 2 stroke gives power each revolution of the piston, and 4 stroke only every second.
Pay attention people lol!!! The 250 2stroke is roosting way harder in 1&2, because its trying to put more power to the ground! It really was coming down to traction! 2 strokes for life!!!!!
I love you and your Bros content I'm waiting on my 98 KX250 to come out of the shop with a fixed transmission was having transmission issues watching you guys videos helps me get through LOL
I hadn't ridden in 25 yrs. My kids bought me a call 1985 cr125 for fathers day 2020. After getting used to it I blew it up. I'm having to bore it 1mm over. I'm planning on putting Bigger jets put in it and running only 101 octane in it. I haven't it back together yet. I'm excited to see if it's gonna kick ass. I'm 51 yrs old and weak on one side from a stroke. I hope I can ride it.
JamsLife Really? Im curious because I too am looking to buy my first bike soon and i was very settled on buying a kx 250. Do you think it would be okay for a beginner to ride such a powerful bike of i was to take it slow at first??
Yen Yen the 250 is a lot of bike especially a 2 stroke .your weight is a lot for a 125 but you probably should start out on a 200 trail bike. Like a Yamaha TTR
Thank You for posting , most other channels do not give an honest apple to apple test. I have owned Both and just like the 2-stroke more than the 4-stroke. But the Sound of a 2 stroke with a good pipe brings tears to my eyes.
Michael Littlejohn, they sound like every chainsaw iv ever owned. I like 2 and 4 to be honest but now I ride a 4 just because I'm getting older and I like the low end grunt and torque of the 4 stroke. I like not having to be wide open to make usable low end power to putt up a hill or go through a mud hole. 2 strokes won't putt up a hill, or through a mud hole. It's either raising hell up it or its stalling out.
The two stroke was struggling to get traction but the little 250f surprised me a bit. Thought the 2 would have walked out quicker than it did. I’d think on a different surface the story would be quite a bit different. This goes without saying but rider makes more difference than any other variables. Good video✌🏻
brandon murphy Honda is like belly buttons.. everyone has one in other news.. my YZ 125 ported and polished has never been passed in any race other than a sand Hill
Bought a 1992 KX250 Sunday myself. Just need put back together. Dude rebuilt the bottom end and got in a bind needing money so he never finished it. I'm super excited
It's a given that the T on short distance is king but the F will have long haul title. Both are excellent for tearing it up though. The U.S. Army went with the F model for the noise factor in our recon units. We had a world class training area behind the old division headquarters at ft.Bragg in the 82nd Airborne division.
Its amazing how far the 4 strokes have come...from being extremely gutless in the 70s to close to the performance of the 2 stokes CC to CC. Im a old 2 stroke guy but the modern 4s aren't giving much up other than sound. The 450s are crazy powerful
2 strokes ftw but they are harder to drive since all that power comes instantly. 4 strokes are easier to drive since the power is more evenly distributed on both low and high RPM's.
The KX250 Engine done right is a Weapon! I had one with White Brothers Racing Ported Cylinder, Boysen Carbon Reeds, FMF Exhaust, Splitfire sparkplug, Hot Rods Crankshaft, Weisco Shorty piston oversized, Bottom end balanced, Carb jetted, Run on Premium fuel with a Dash of Avgas in the tank it was a Farkinn Animal!!! I had blokes who rode CR500's love the bike! And yes the unmistakable Braaapppppphhhhhh through the bush awesome...
Great video but lots of ignorance in the comments, so I'll try to clarify. A 250 2 stroke has ports (holes) in the cylinder to somewhere around a third of the way up (depends on the powervalve opening). These ports only allow the engine to compress about 2/3 rds of the engines total volume, around 170 cc. The 2 stroke fires twice as often as the four stroke so 170 x 2 = 340 cc's. Therefore, a supercross 250 2t and a KTM 350 sxf are a good race.
My first bike was a KX250 and I loved it. Sold because I was too young to drive and couldn't take it anywhere 😏. Would I buy one again? Yes definitely.
I miss my 1998 KX 250 sooooooo much dmsone 17 years later. Only vehicle I ever purchase brand new for $5859.00 in April, 1998. I am a tub-of-lard, 235 then, 260 now, and I tried to spin the back tire from a dead stop. Bike endowed and the handle bars rupture my left ACL and maniscus. Had to sell it. Soooooooo fun. The "ting ting ting" at idle; the rich mid-range power band of the engine was the only one of its kind that remember in 1998. Honda CRS and Yamaha YZs I could not ride because they only made power in the upper RPM range. Sandy berms were nothing for the KX. Shutting from 3rd to 4th gear neck snap-.........(sigh).😟 ---------- To this video: I am very partial to 2-cycle motocross engines, but I am em ever more impressed how the stroker kept up. Generally, in my day, 400-450cc strokers were allowed against 250cc 2-cycles. To be more fair; give what I hear the stroker is better at; low RPM torque, say, out if sandy berms or whoops.
Gotta love 2 strokes. Really though the 250 4s are made to be competitive with a 2 stroke 125 and the 2 stroke 250 is comparable to a the 450 4 strokes.
so the 4 stroke needs a 200cc displacment advantage. Lol. It always erked me the 4 strokes were allowed to complete with such a huge handicap. But they would have never sold the world on the more expensive to build and repair 4 stroke. They just did the same thing car manufactures did. Made something designed to be so costly to repair your better off buying a new one from them. But in fairness the latest batch of 250 4 strokes make more hp than the outdated 250 2 strokes. It doesn't take a fortune to fix that thoe. And the 2 stroke lays it all on the line at once. No nice linear torque to hp curve. You get both at the same time lol
The whole notion of "displacement advantage for 4-strokes" is bogus... Yeah they put 250 2-strokes against 450 4-strokes - which totally gives them an unfair advantage and ultimately put an end to 2-strokes. Ok - its true that 2-strokes make power on every stroke, but people forget that 4-strokes rev higher... a modern 4-stroke can rev to 14,000rpm (just check any good Sporting 600cc machine) vs ~11,000 RPM for the 2-strokers (go look at an RZ-350/RZ-500/RG-500 tachometer)... if you want to be fair, then put a lower rev limit on the 4-strokes... OK with that in mind the 4-strokes still should have a displacement advantage but not DOUBLE... they should get approx a 50% advantage... lets say a 300cc 2-stroke vs a 450 4-stroke would help level the playing field. Same is true in Moto-GP... the 1,000cc bikes crushed the 500cc 2-strokes for the same reasoning... and even a 50% advantage may not be enough with the current level of refinement of 4-strokes... maybe a +40% handicap or ?? I can only imagine how awesome 2-stroke technology would be if they were actively still being developed... 2-stroker for life!
I own and a 2 stroke so and have also owned a 4 stroke and going by what you’re implying they wouldn’t have gotten rid of the 500 class and would have used them against the 450’s in outdoors and supercross.
+Tubo Yeah that 250 2 stroke could barely beat the 250 4 stroke, now imagine if that was a kx450f instead of the kx250f the outcome would have been way different!
250 2 stroke has alot bigger engine than 250 4 stroke so if somebody loses to you with 250 2 stroke and you ride 250 4 stroke 250 2 stroke rider fucking sucks. I own 2015 kawasaki kx250f and 2001 honda cr250 and the honda is ALOT faster
i dont know how you figure that because my 2015 yz 250 2stroke is putting out stock on the dyno and certificate of origin 51.3hp right next to 2013 yz450 at 50.5 stock i have an sst and turbinecore 2 on and dyno testing showed its now at 54.7 even with 2 teeth taken off the rear sprocket 450s may be higher in horsepower but the weight to horsepower ratio of a 2 stroke makes the 2stroke faster 450s got torque no doubt but im sorry ill take my 250 2stroke all day and spank yall 450s asses everyday of the week like i was on my 85
Jake Parciak my 15 ktm 450 dynod at 62bhp mapped and piped trust me your shitty arse yz aint beating no 450 why do you think no race teams use them anymore
Guys, don't lift to shift! On a two stroke, you just keep the throttle nailed, and lift the shift lever through the gears. No clutch, no backing off. The only reason you even think about the clutch is if you start wheelieing. And then it's just a quick flick. You don't back off the throttle no matter what, until the end of the straight!
That may be the quickest way, but it is the hardest on the tranny parts too (and some bikes won't shift like that). I always got good starts by just letting off the gas a bit for the clutch-less shift. Just make sure the next shift will be close to peak power in the rpm range. Here is the funny part. MXA in the 80's described the different start/shift methods, and I went out to practice them, (looking for the shortest coasting patch between gears.). The results were in order like this: Fastest: No clutch, stay on the gas. 2nd fastest: Let off the gas a bit, no clutch. 3rd fastest: Stay on the gas, fan the clutch. 4th fastest: Let off the gas, use the clutch. MXA today, (the new generation), says the 3rd fastest way is the best today. I know they are wrong.
If you like bikes there should be no comparison between the two. It’s like comparing an F1 car with an LMP1 enduro car or maybe a WRC car. F1 is way way faster fun to ride but if you go go for a LMP1 you can drive more laps hour after hour. I am new in the motor world and I don’t know why ppl hating each other only who’s preferring which bike. I find both very cool if it goes to fun and simplicity I will chose 2s or if I wanna do long distances in the woods I prefer 4s. No hate they are both sick bikes because I love dirt bikes ❤️
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2 Stroke powerband still gives me chills when it hits. That sound and the smell of burning synthetic oil is bliss...
The smell of 2 stroke castor oil is the classic "going riding" smell that brings me back to my childhood.
@@waynes.2983 Synthetic or mineral?
Racing fuel smells better
@@moto_tech_braap_itout9852 why
The best!
that 2 stroke noise omfg eargasm
Andries RC Ikr it's annoying. 4 strokes FTW
+mike gamer do you understand that Andries just said that 2 stroke sound is amazing?
In my opinion 2 stoke sounds 10000 times better than 4 stroke
sorry i can't hear you 4 stroke over the sound of my 2-stroke BRAAAAAAAP
yeh, that's like your opinion man.
Four stroke sound is just lame, it sounds the same through out the RPM's, just louder. And you can't really hear the power in the sound of it (unless a multicylinder one)
Don't get all butthurt over this, it's my opinion
I would like to know why you like four stroke more than two stroke
don't you really have any good arguments? The two stroke is superior to the four stroke. If you didn't know, the 2 stroke gives power each revolution of the piston, and 4 stroke only every second.
2 stroke all day spittin oil and rippin soil!!!
yes, specially 500's
If your it mixing gas your not hauling ass.
Nick Brown i
@@marilynrodney6002 lol I was gonna say that
4 strokes roll thunder, 2 strokes Ride the Lightning.
Carry on...
like for 2 stroke
Duckonsumquackk fished for likes and got 14 😂
four strokes are gay
Mixing gas and slapping ass
Julian Caslale why
This is two stroke!!! (Cause im the 300th like :)
If it ain't smokin it's broken.
mrpowdercoater if it aint smoking it aint broken
If it ain't smoking it's fuel injected
2stroke for life❤️💪🏽😍
Beleza
If it’s a 4 stroke and it’s smoking that bitch is broken to shit lmfao
Pay attention people lol!!! The 250 2stroke is roosting way harder in 1&2, because its trying to put more power to the ground! It really was coming down to traction! 2 strokes for life!!!!!
Dats right
I'm gone insane since I got my husky te300
4 strokes are great for traction because they don’t have the nuts of a simple built 2 stroke
What about a 450
@@dylanjones2226 that’s that you’ll need to compete with that 2t
I love you and your Bros content I'm waiting on my 98 KX250 to come out of the shop with a fixed transmission was having transmission issues watching you guys videos helps me get through LOL
I hadn't ridden in 25 yrs. My kids bought me a call 1985 cr125 for fathers day 2020. After getting used to it I blew it up. I'm having to bore it 1mm over. I'm planning on putting Bigger jets put in it and running only 101 octane in it. I haven't it back together yet. I'm excited to see if it's gonna kick ass. I'm 51 yrs old and weak on one side from a stroke. I hope I can ride it.
Damn that 2-stroke sounds crisp! 👌🏼
So much fun , you know what would be even more fun ? Me in the middle on the Kx 500 !!! Braappp!!!
Thx. That would be epic braap holeshot.. :D
Nice bikes, is 250 2 stroke too much for 90kg beginner?
its good.
JamsLife Really? Im curious because I too am looking to buy my first bike soon and i was very settled on buying a kx 250. Do you think it would be okay for a beginner to ride such a powerful bike of i was to take it slow at first??
Yen Yen the 250 is a lot of bike especially a 2 stroke .your weight is a lot for a 125 but you probably should start out on a 200 trail bike. Like a Yamaha TTR
Thank You for posting , most other channels do not give an honest apple to apple test. I have owned Both and just like the 2-stroke more than the 4-stroke. But the Sound of a 2 stroke with a good pipe brings tears to my eyes.
Michael Littlejohn, they sound like every chainsaw iv ever owned. I like 2 and 4 to be honest but now I ride a 4 just because I'm getting older and I like the low end grunt and torque of the 4 stroke. I like not having to be wide open to make usable low end power to putt up a hill or go through a mud hole. 2 strokes won't putt up a hill, or through a mud hole. It's either raising hell up it or its stalling out.
Thank you for sharing this video and showing off the bikes without talking for 10 mins of the video like the other posters.
The two stroke was struggling to get traction but the little 250f surprised me a bit. Thought the 2 would have walked out quicker than it did. I’d think on a different surface the story would be quite a bit different. This goes without saying but rider makes more difference than any other variables. Good video✌🏻
The 2 stroke performed as expected. Flawlessly.
both of those sounds are FKING AWESOME! ;D
yeah :p
Love both but that kx sounds INSANE 🔥
2 strokes smell faster
my KX500 2t eats 450s or 250 2t :P
ArmathuX not my 450 honda eats 500s up
brandon murphy Honda is like belly buttons.. everyone has one
in other news.. my YZ 125 ported and polished has never been passed in any race
other than a sand Hill
Ekon Rekon 125 s are kids toys
brandon murphy correct, a kid toy that made every adult cry like a baby
Where did you get the Monster Energy graphics for the four stroke from??
I’ve been riding 4 strokes since I was 9 (16 now) and I’m happy to say I’m switching over to the 2 stroke life
Rhino Armor welcome to manhood my friend!!!
Finally grew a set of balls my friend
Good choice should’ve always been on a 2 stroke too 🤣🤣
Like a drum and a guitar alot of differences but dang do they sound good together
That 2 stroke is lovely.
Anyone watching in 2019🤘🤘🤘 braaaaaaap
Fuck yeah🤘
braaaaaap
2020 braaaap braaap
Josh...only you
2021
the sound from the 2 stroke is nice
Gerard O`Brien. LOL XD 2 stroke master race
Gerard O'Brien And your shitty 2 stroke sounds like a fucking honda civic with a weed wacker.
YourFriendlyDirtBiker don’t forget the weed waker is straight piped
Gotta love the low-end grunt and linear power delivery of a 4-stroke.
First time in a while I've seen 2 riders of equal skill level go at it with the extra 2 stroke power being the only real difference
Bought a 1992 KX250 Sunday myself. Just need put back together. Dude rebuilt the bottom end and got in a bind needing money so he never finished it. I'm super excited
Can't wait getting 125
Hows it been😂
@@nashtyr6392 lol was wondering if it ever happened also
Nice
Can't wait getting 250 😍
Just got my 125 today, ain’t rode it yet
Amazing how quick that 4 stroke is but in smaller displacements it's not much of a contest
It's a given that the T on short distance is king but the F will have long haul title. Both are excellent for tearing it up though. The U.S. Army went with the F model for the noise factor in our recon units. We had a world class training area behind the old division headquarters at ft.Bragg in the 82nd Airborne division.
Its amazing how far the 4 strokes have come...from being extremely gutless in the 70s to close to the performance of the 2 stokes CC to CC. Im a old 2 stroke guy but the modern 4s aren't giving much up other than sound. The 450s are crazy powerful
The kawasaki kx 250 2 stroke sounded like 'The Hell of the MotoCross'
Annoying mosquitos
2 strokes ftw but they are harder to drive since all that power comes instantly.
4 strokes are easier to drive since the power is more evenly distributed on both low and high RPM's.
2 Stroke sound is amazing! 😋
I´m from Germany. My son is 12 years old and also drives a KX 85 built in 2007. Nice sound and nice Video again.
Ngl that kx250f held its own better than i thought it would
The KX250 Engine done right is a Weapon! I had one with White Brothers Racing Ported Cylinder, Boysen Carbon Reeds, FMF Exhaust, Splitfire sparkplug, Hot Rods Crankshaft, Weisco Shorty piston oversized, Bottom end balanced, Carb jetted, Run on Premium fuel with a Dash of Avgas in the tank it was a Farkinn Animal!!! I had blokes who rode CR500's love the bike! And yes the unmistakable Braaapppppphhhhhh through the bush awesome...
Great video but lots of ignorance in the comments, so I'll try to clarify. A 250 2 stroke has ports (holes) in the cylinder to somewhere around a third of the way up (depends on the powervalve opening). These ports only allow the engine to compress about 2/3 rds of the engines total volume, around 170 cc. The 2 stroke fires twice as often as the four stroke so 170 x 2 = 340 cc's. Therefore, a supercross 250 2t and a KTM 350 sxf are a good race.
Then why do the 250 2ts race 450 4ts
@@harpchicken3248 because 350s werent invented yet
Man, I miss having a 2-stroke. :(
2 stroke feels like soul music to ears 😬
2 stroke forever
My first bike was a KX250 and I loved it. Sold because I was too young to drive and couldn't take it anywhere 😏. Would I buy one again? Yes definitely.
Looks nice there, Maine woods?
Love the smell of 2-stroke in the morning.
Good video. The 2 stroke sounds dialed in. Very crisp. The 4 stroke- well, im a 2 stroke guy so I got nothing to say.
How do you know when the race starts?
I love this video ❤
The 2T sounds amazing!!
4 stroke has come a long way. beautiful two stroke sound but doesnt look much different in acceleration
It takes 200 more cc for a 4 stroke to beat a 250 2T
damn 2stroke so nice sound
Its nature, 2 strokes will always be lighter faster and more powerful.
Shifting that 2 stroke too early! Take advantage of that top end power a little more!
Agreed
You can tell these two ride a lot with each other
I miss my 1998 KX 250 sooooooo much dmsone 17 years later. Only vehicle I ever purchase brand new for $5859.00 in April, 1998.
I am a tub-of-lard, 235 then, 260 now, and I tried to spin the back tire from a dead stop. Bike endowed and the handle bars rupture my left ACL and maniscus. Had to sell it.
Soooooooo fun. The "ting ting ting" at idle; the rich mid-range power band of the engine was the only one of its kind that remember in 1998. Honda CRS and Yamaha YZs I could not ride because they only made power in the upper RPM range. Sandy berms were nothing for the KX. Shutting from 3rd to 4th gear neck snap-.........(sigh).😟
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To this video: I am very partial to 2-cycle motocross engines, but I am em ever more impressed how the stroker kept up. Generally, in my day, 400-450cc strokers were allowed against 250cc 2-cycles.
To be more fair; give what I hear the stroker is better at; low RPM torque, say, out if sandy berms or whoops.
the 2 strokr one looked like my dads old bike which is my picture kx 250
Oh ok I didn't even notice... Nice riding 👌
Bruh he went into a different dimension when he hit the power band on the 250 two stroke XD
What rear tires on these bikes? That’s probably the most important factor here during the race
What year for this 4t kx250 ?
Yeah boy! Two stroke power
they need a longer rode because 2 stroke has a good boost at the start but u never know if the 4 stroke can start catching up.
Love both bikes, slightly glad the 2 stroke won though
Do you know how to tell which ones which...... the 2 stroke in the front
Lindo Vídeo! 👏😍😍
I have a 1982 kx 250 i absolutely love it lot of fun
Gotta love 2 strokes. Really though the 250 4s are made to be competitive with a 2 stroke 125 and the 2 stroke 250 is comparable to a the 450 4 strokes.
Then why would they call it a 250 and not a 125??
@@kennethhunt248 250 is the size of the engine.........
@@helplure the 250s cant compete with the 450s
how do you work that out.. been racing 2 strokes 500cc for years way back.. tell all the ex champions that
@@vaughanhodgson on track they can
4 stroke sounding mint
I Absolutely love the sound of a 2 stroke engine it sounds great it really does the 4 stroke sounds good aswell but nothing like the 2 stroke though
What is the weight of these two guys? Are they exactly the same? Seems the four stroke wasn’t shifted properly either and not allowed to wind out.
So it's basically a 250 vs a 125. You needed a kx450f if it was meant to be any kind or straight line competition..
j morrison the 250 f won some of the races and was beside the 2 stroke the whole time..
@@kohlguenette6669 because the 2 stroke is wheel spinning nearly the whole time,your right though,4 stroke hung with him pretty close on all race's
Even in supercross the 250f and 450f times are only a couple seconds off. Just who’s got the best tire and gearing tbh
so the 4 stroke needs a 200cc displacment advantage. Lol. It always erked me the 4 strokes were allowed to complete with such a huge handicap. But they would have never sold the world on the more expensive to build and repair 4 stroke. They just did the same thing car manufactures did. Made something designed to be so costly to repair your better off buying a new one from them.
But in fairness the latest batch of 250 4 strokes make more hp than the outdated 250 2 strokes. It doesn't take a fortune to fix that thoe. And the 2 stroke lays it all on the line at once. No nice linear torque to hp curve. You get both at the same time lol
kx 250 for the win 😍😍
is the 2 stroke stock
Any tips on how to break in boots?
years people, depending on the bikes year it could have an extra gear like the 2001 yz 125 had 6 gears the year later it was only 5
That 2 stroke is no joke
Two stroke power 💥
que buena experto
The whole notion of "displacement advantage for 4-strokes" is bogus... Yeah they put 250 2-strokes against 450 4-strokes - which totally gives them an unfair advantage and ultimately put an end to 2-strokes. Ok - its true that 2-strokes make power on every stroke, but people forget that 4-strokes rev higher... a modern 4-stroke can rev to 14,000rpm (just check any good Sporting 600cc machine) vs ~11,000 RPM for the 2-strokers (go look at an RZ-350/RZ-500/RG-500 tachometer)... if you want to be fair, then put a lower rev limit on the 4-strokes... OK with that in mind the 4-strokes still should have a displacement advantage but not DOUBLE... they should get approx a 50% advantage... lets say a 300cc 2-stroke vs a 450 4-stroke would help level the playing field. Same is true in Moto-GP... the 1,000cc bikes crushed the 500cc 2-strokes for the same reasoning... and even a 50% advantage may not be enough with the current level of refinement of 4-strokes... maybe a +40% handicap or ?? I can only imagine how awesome 2-stroke technology would be if they were actively still being developed... 2-stroker for life!
2strokestuffing
I own and a 2 stroke so and have also owned a 4 stroke and going by what you’re implying they wouldn’t have gotten rid of the 500 class and would have used them against the 450’s in outdoors and supercross.
2 stroke 🔥🔥🔥🔥
What's done to the kx250 2t
Intéressant
Best bike I ever had was a KDX200.
2 stroke is always better!!
oh yes
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Theres a reason they race 450f and 250 2Stroke together not 250f and 250 2stroke
+Tubo Yeah that 250 2 stroke could barely beat the 250 4 stroke, now imagine if that was a kx450f instead of the kx250f the outcome would have been way different!
250 2 stroke has alot bigger engine than 250 4 stroke so if somebody loses to you with 250 2 stroke and you ride 250 4 stroke 250 2 stroke rider fucking sucks. I own 2015 kawasaki kx250f and 2001 honda cr250 and the honda is ALOT faster
4 stroke sounds like a monster😈
I liked the video because of the 2 stroke
Why do all 2-strokes knock when idling?
I just got a 1978 kx 250 , 2 strokes are the best
Should I get a two stroke or 4 stroke, I ride in dunes
Both skills are very good.
that 2 stroke noise though
Are these enduro bikes or dirt bikes?
Sick vid guys!
thanks!
✌🏽T all day long without a doubt.
Sweet, very agile 2t. Ill sell my klx 650 to restore my kdx250. Missed the chainsaw sound.
Machine 2 stroke very beaitifull
what i like to see 2 stroke for the win
INDX iLaC This is an irrelevent match up lmfao..... the kx250 should be going up against a kx450f if you know how engines work..
Sigurður .Aron 250 2 strokes get eaten by 450s its not even a contest most 450s put out more bhp stock than the old 500s
i dont know how you figure that because my 2015 yz 250 2stroke is putting out stock on the dyno and certificate of origin 51.3hp right next to 2013 yz450 at 50.5 stock i have an sst and turbinecore 2 on and dyno testing showed its now at 54.7 even with 2 teeth taken off the rear sprocket 450s may be higher in horsepower but the weight to horsepower ratio of a 2 stroke makes the 2stroke faster 450s got torque no doubt but im sorry ill take my 250 2stroke all day and spank yall 450s asses everyday of the week like i was on my 85
these 4 stroke ppl are just but hurt that 2 stroke shit all over them all the time track and trails
Jake Parciak my 15 ktm 450 dynod at 62bhp mapped and piped trust me your shitty arse yz aint beating no 450 why do you think no race teams use them anymore
250 kx vs 450 kxf 125 kx vs 250 kxf (2 stroke 💪💪💪)
Would be interesting to see
Was there ever any doubt the 2 stroke was gonna kick butt ? Why no power shifts all the way through ?
Guys, don't lift to shift!
On a two stroke, you just keep the throttle nailed, and lift the shift lever through the gears. No clutch, no backing off. The only reason you even think about the clutch is if you start wheelieing. And then it's just a quick flick. You don't back off the throttle no matter what, until the end of the straight!
That may be the quickest way, but it is the hardest on the tranny parts too (and some bikes won't shift like that). I always got good starts by just letting off the gas a bit for the clutch-less shift. Just make sure the next shift will be close to peak power in the rpm range. Here is the funny part. MXA in the 80's described the different start/shift methods, and I went out to practice them, (looking for the shortest coasting patch between gears.). The results were in order like this:
Fastest: No clutch, stay on the gas.
2nd fastest: Let off the gas a bit, no clutch.
3rd fastest: Stay on the gas, fan the clutch.
4th fastest: Let off the gas, use the clutch.
MXA today, (the new generation), says the 3rd fastest way is the best today. I know they are wrong.
If you like bikes there should be no comparison between the two. It’s like comparing an F1 car with an LMP1 enduro car or maybe a WRC car. F1 is way way faster fun to ride but if you go go for a LMP1 you can drive more laps hour after hour. I am new in the motor world and I don’t know why ppl hating each other only who’s preferring which bike. I find both very cool if it goes to fun and simplicity I will chose 2s or if I wanna do long distances in the woods I prefer 4s. No hate they are both sick bikes because I love dirt bikes ❤️