Josh Pate On Mood Of Penn State Fans (Late Kick Cut)
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- Penn State Football is coming off another solid season, and on Late Kick Live Ep 501 Josh Pate continued the Mood Tracker series with a look at the temperature of Nittany Lion fans. How far can James Franklin and Penn State go in 2024 and beyond? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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If James Franklin does not make the CFP this year he needs to face serious scrutiny. This is the easiest schedule Penn State has had since the 2017 season at LEAST and this Penn State team is Top 25 in returning production with upgrades in the coaching staffs. I think the mood of Penn State fans is "Prove it".
No clue If Allen is an upgrade at DC over Diaz I would lean hell no, but with 2 new Coordinators this would give Franklin and excuse
as long as the offense significantly improves with explosive plays and integrating the deep pass game, Penn St should be fine.
Looking at their schedule If they can come out with a Win in the opener in the ultimate trap game with a new staff on the road,
only hiccup I see is Ohio St, USC could be a wildcard lets see what they look like at QB. Penn St avoids Mich this year so 1 loss
and headed to rematch Ohio St in the Champ game is conceivable.
Yeah Penn st will probably be favored in 11/12 games. And get Ohio st at home
@@702TifosiGamblerif one thing Allen will improve on this defense is two things that sorely lacked under Diaz…
1. Tackling. The pressure during the Diaz era was mind blowing but the tackling had to be some of the worst in my lifetime during Diaz. Too many missed tackles extended plays.
2. Help for the DB’s. Granted Diaz’ pressure defense made it difficult at times for passing games yet against elite teams they allowed teams to get bailed out due to single converse. Harrison Jr might be gone but Ebuke is still at OSU and I’d feel a lot comfortable w/ some safety help that Allen will bring more than Diaz
You are definitely correct that the mods is “prove it.” The biggest thing to look at is even if PSU makes the playoff now, where will they be seeded? Then, will they be a “one and done” team for the next decade and we’ll hear Franklin make about two or three “great to elite” speeches again.
If he doesn't make a 12 team playoff this year, screw scrutiny..fire him. Michigan had to replace their coordinators in 2022 and still made a 4 team playoff. They pretty much had to replace an oc or DC every year in their 3 consecutive playoff runs
@@ringostarrgazer2419 Ok big shot well you better have a viable replacement in mind, you also left out Harbaugh cherry picked his staff from his NFL brothers staff and they’re still cherry picking NFL staff with the Wink hire who is the founder of the now infamous Baltimore and Michigan defense of recent years not every HC has the connections to make those moves most HC resort to stealing their cross town rivals talented staff ie: Lincoln Riley.
Penn St still has major questions at QB & WR and their OC who ran the Leipold offense excelled with a dynamic dual threat QB.
Penn St at best is 3rd in B10 behind Ohio St & Oregon and that’s assuming Mich is rebuilding this year.
I always love me a good York PA shoutout from my man pate!
Thank you for the York, Pa shoutout!
My big concern is at wide receiver? Who does Allar throw to?
And they didn't look great in the spring game. Might have to move some of those stud RBs out wide
Harrison Wallace
@@PSU2024Harrison Wallace needs to stay healthy for once
Tre Wallace can be very good. Omari Evans can be very good but dealt with in jury issues last year. The WRs are better than people realize. Not great but decent. The problem is Drew was scared to death to throw downfield quite a few times when WRs were open, and mike Yurcich offense sucked. He played 12 personnel and didn't spread the field and scheme WRs open like regular spread teams.
Penn St and Oregon are the wildcards this year, Penn St has a sweet schedule avoiding Oregon and Michigan and getting Ohio St at home.
Oregon essentially opens with 6 games at home or limited travel road games, 2 true home games, in state road game vs Oreg State, at UCLA,
home vs Mich St and home vs Ohio St which I think is the game of the year.
If Penn St offense looks anything like Kansas' offense from last year they'll be the most improved team in the country.
Ohio St is the best team in the country imo.
B10 should be fascinating this year.
Ohio state is a guaranteed loss for Penn state. It’s not even a question. Franklin can’t outcoach Ryan day.
@@Jimmymcnulty4 Nothings a guaranteed loss if it's in Beaver Stadium lol.
@@lvli044 nothing guaranteed except games vs Ohio state. Sorry brother it isn’t going to happen.
@@Jimmymcnulty4 *sister
And if PSU's healthy, they're probably favored.
@@lvli044 the only way penn state has a shot is if they fire jvf
Like the sean fitz reference at the end
love fitz
When we getting the Meemaw origin story?
Everyone is going to be in the “college football playoffs.” They need to revive Joe Paterno
Paterno would at least get us there...Franklin is a lost cause.
@@gosiahodge3462 Because Paterno was a great coach.
We NEED an Elite WR from the portal if we’re going to make the playoffs. BP maybe be the best fit for the AK. offense at QB. AK didn’t show anything Saturday during the blue white game. Gotta get that Elite WR to make the playoffs
PSU fan here and I just say, “stop talking about it HCJF and go prove it.”
Psu needs to get the wide receiver positon figured out if they wanna get into the playoff.
I am once again Stating- Dan Lanning is no more proven (or better) than James Franklin.
If you disagree lmk who Dan Lannung has beaten. I have all day to wait.
I’d say that psu has done far more
At this point though their trajectory is going in two different directions. We'll see this year but Franklin chokes harder then Day with his in game decisions/strategy.
Mood is here...same ol same ol...another OC brought in..resulting in disappointment in my view....keep in mind PSU faithful/Franklin is an offensive HC.......RESULT......QB Allar..number 1 recruit...number 50 results...no receivers that stand out...just another 9-3..lucky to make playoff.
So are we losing KLS or not???
Josh I know you like James Franklin but look at the stats!
Penn State before James Franklin:
•13-15 vs Ohio State
•7-10 vs Michigan
Penn State under James Franklin:
•1-9 vs Ohio State 💀
•3-7 vs Michigan 💀
Schuylkill County would explode if psu gets in there
It's pretty clear that while Franklin can put together an above-average team, but his coaching prowess is well below average.
Last year was supposed to be the breakthrough year. The looked pretty bad against top 10 teams getting their butts beat in all 3 big games; and often struggling against mediocre teams.
Oh boy, James Franklin and Penn St alert. That’s a surprise!!!
A home play off game at beaver will be amazing take my money now if it Happens.
No shot of that happening with James Vanderbilt Franklin on staff
@@Jimmymcnulty4 pls explain why that won’t happen. Penn state has finished in the top 10 multiple times indicating they’ll be in the expanded playoff so therefore they have a chance to host a home game
@@lukeeisenberger4872 because j Franklin will choke it away. You will see. Get back to me in 6 months
Beaver Stadium can't handle an outdoor game in December because of the weather, a theoretical playoff game for PSU would be in Philly or Pittsburgh.
@@WickstarRunner oh clearly you don’t know how they have/are in the process of renovating Beaver Stadium for winter games
It’s very odd people in comments are already claiming they didn’t make the playoff.
Thank you! I still think PSU fans are being unreasonable. I think that Head Coach stability is highly underrated.
Thats very easy for you to say as a bama fan, we have an elite defense, a 5 star QB, a 5 star RB, and a stud 4 star RB. There is no excuse for us to not win anymore, if PSU loses its bc franklin is not a good gameday coach
@@billnyedoesminecraftjoseph8379 who would you rather have as HC? Also, you didn't mention any talent at WR.
@@bamaengineerliterally ANYONE. anybody to accelerate the process and get us out of this unbreakable loop of mediocrity. I know state college starbucks baristas who would lead this team to more success. Everyone always says “who would you rather have at HC” as if it’s some grand challenge. Genuinely anyone. We should have fired JF and pulled Manny Diaz up to the head coaching role, that would’ve been a start.
The State of the PSU fan base is: Spoiled
Multiple 10+ win seasons, multiple NY6 wins, Franklin doing it the Penn State way....and the fans want him gone cuz "He can't beat Ohio State"......news flash....NOT MANY HAVE!!!!
If Penn State fires Franklin to appease the fan base, we'll be the next Nebraska. I've NEVER been more embarrassed by this fan base.
Lotta Central PA folks don't understand how difficult it is to get players to come to Happy Valley. Look at the teams that win in CFB. They're all near or in big cities except for like Oregon and Alabama. Both are in unique situations that help them out that PSU doesn't have. The fact that PSU hangs around the top tier is nothing short if miraculous bc there is NOTHING helping this program outside what the coaches and players bring to the table. They 100% should be on the level of Nebraska already, but Franklin has rebuilt the program in such an extraordinary way he'll never get enough credit for.
It's a program built on honesty and mutual respect that's exactly what the comminity needed after the scandals. I hope people really start respecting it soon.
You're lost bud!! Franklin's record against top ten teams is "horrific"!!!!! He shoulda been gone!!!
@@lvli044I appreciate that someone else has perspective these days
@@lvli044UMICH did it with the same recruiting rankings, you do not kmow what youre talking about
@@lvli044 FACT..PSU has had top 15 national recruiting results in every one of Franklins 8 seasons as HC...RESULT he hasnt got PSU to ONE playoff. What has Franklin rebuilt...offensive line/wide receiver room/QB development....hint...Allar/Singleton were NUMBER 1 at their position in high school recruiting lists...what are the in a year or two at PSU...middle of the road at best....explains how effective Franklin has been with talent.
Mediocre??? Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
Franklin has tons of work to do with his in game coaching, but he was coming off the insane sanctions and still has 6 double digit win seasons, and has finished in the top 7 five different times!!! WE ARE a top 7 program, exactly where it evens out after his 10 years!!!! WE ARE
With a favorable bouce here and there this team could go undefeated..yes i said it..they will have their best offense line since before the sanctions
very odd how similar our names are… but our OLINE might only be just as good as it was last year, losing fashanu is massive
They'll go 10-2, get a 0 or 10 seed, and then it depends on matchups.
Just need competent wide receivers. That’s it.
Young people are so ungrateful. They're the ones that want James Franklin gone. It took Joe 17 years to win his first National😮 Championship. JF has time. You need to follow the recruiting,young people. Penn State is getting really good guys out of the SEC and wins every year right here in PA. You are setting yourself up for a big disappointment, it's not playoffs or bust, damnit. The building blocks are in place. This team isn't probably going to win it all THIS year,but........ Look out. Penn State is coming! They'll be fine. Patience is a virtue. Young people aren't very virtuous, sometimes.
Penn St. is Ole Miss with a shit schedule.
Why would you buy a playoff ticket to watch Penn State
Because some people have standards and aren’t Michigan fans
@@zakkreiser5727 buying tickets to watch a team that's never going to win anything is a weird standard
@@khrisstake2210 I mean you were buying Michigan tickets, but then again I guess they turned their program around after they started pulling the college version of the 07 patriots spy gate. Prior Penn State sure was .500 with Michigan for 6 years, but yall don’t like mentioning that.
@@khrisstake2210There's not much to win in college ball. You go watch it for atmosphere and culture. Which, goddamn, you wanna see a Penn State game live for those reasons. Nothing else like it.
@@lvli044 I hope I never see the day where I go to a Michigan game with winning not being high on the list
Penn State:
One USC resurgence away from being the #5 program in the conference
PSU is bear minimum #4 quit talking out your ass
Franklin is not a national championship coach! He never will be. Keep propping him up, and in another 10 years, PSU will be the same, struggling for the top 10.
James Franklin is the world’s best let down. Guy has no business being a head coach. Here’s to another disappointment of a season. I want him back at the Amazon warehouse where he belongs.
At an elite program..he would have been gone 5 years ago.
We are sick and tired of him. Most Penn state fans want this man gone trust me.
If nothing else he needs to take a pay cut like Jim Harbaugh did and invest it back into NIL. JF is robbing psu blind otherwise.
I disagree, I think it’s just a loud minority of our fans tbh
Speak for yourself. You aren't "we."
Go away Michael, No one likes you and we want you gone, trust me.
@@fanman71 and neither are you. Both me and you make up we as a whole. There are different portions of our fanbase. While I want us to accomplish more, I’m appreciative of where we are. Let’s stop acting like we aren’t in a better place than 90% of college football, and let’s stop acting like we were racking up championships. We have 2. Joe didn’t win one since 86 and it took him 20 years to get to his first. Yall don’t talk about that though, but you’re quick to talk about James rebuilding Penn State after a sanction that NOBODY else ever had to deal with. I love Paterno too, but James is rebuilding the shambles of what Paterno left. And these issues have been brewing since the 90s. 20+ years, he’s been here just over a decade.
@@zakkreiser5727 I'm agreeing with you. I disagreed with the OP when he was using terms like "we" & "most" PSU fans. He should speak for himself as there is a large contingent of PSU fans that think that Franklin is doing a good job.
NO Receivers again. Allar can't run. He's not that type of QB. So you need receivers. PSU has none. Therefore, the run game won't work. They have no defensive line, again. Their Offensive line is questionable, again. It's the same old s**t, as usual. 10 win regular at best. 8 at worst. And the Bowl game? Thanks to NIL, they will lose. Just like last year. No point in watching a bowl game when half the team opts out, is there?
You're not intelligent about PSU football.
I disagree, but when you say they have no Dline you're just lying.
They return all DT's, Carter moved to edge and they brought back DDS. Their DL is the best its been since the Paterno area (2008-2009 teams) so by you saying that it basically discredits everything else you said bc you have no idea what you are talking about.
No defensive line again? Are you stupid???? Did we watch the same team last season?
@@johnvillella1087our DLINE was better last year i think, he still is a clown for saying we have “no dline again” and clearly watches the games with his eyes clossd
Both of you replies are brain dead 🤣 our D Line is nowhere near contender caliber. Are yall being serious right now? Denial is not healthy guys. Holy shit.
Just face it Penn State fans, so long as Franklin remains head coach, mediocrity is the norm. If PSU doesn’t make the playoffs this year, the Franklin bots will be clamoring for a 20 team playoff!! It actually hurts to see Penn State fans accepting a regular 3rd place finish as acceptable. As a game day coach, he’s just awful. Period. Let’s just watch when Franklin dips his finger into his latest OC coordinator’s business-average at best! As a fan, it actually is painful to watch games when Penn State is competing against talent that is comparable or slightly better than Penn State-LOSS!! Sad times.
Awful game day coach. Awful recruiter. Awful strategist. Awful leader. Awful person, crybaby, excuse-maker, fucking joke of a coach. We could go on and on.
At the end of the day, the issue with Franklin is the issue with his supporters. Complacency. They’re perfectly happy with him making the exact same mistakes year after year with no end in sight, just because we’re… ranked in the top 25 or something? Like we should be in our very worst years? What a joke. Makes me sick.
...when the expectation is just going to a Bowl...Franklin is perfect for low expectations from the top.
Learn to use the word mediocrity correctly in a sentence.