I live in Western NY and am considering one of these anyway. Never had a bed cover before, but this one seems like a good candidate with the snow we get. I would think that brushing the snow off and letting the sun do it's thing would probably work for me, unless anyone has a better idea. I'm not a fan of blocking the rear window like some of the fold-ups do. Thanks for letting us know about the colder weather problem.
Same thoughts here; it was very useful to see what the limitation was actually like. It should matter less if you can park your truck under cover too (garage or shelter so the frost doesn't get to it). Reading some of the other reviews and 1 thing is definite: it was not designed for extreme temperatures (very hot Texas, very cold North) but they do seem to be making improvements with subsequent versions... see the felt on the X4 versus the rubber on X4S. I am concerned about the plastic-like corners where it meets the tailgate though... in very cold, you'd think they might snap if you try to move or unstick them if they are frozen... Latest specs seem to indicate the warranty is 5yrs now compared to 3 yrs on the Bakflip MX4. Cheers!
Thanks Brad, I just bought the Bak X4S yesterday and will install next week when it arrives. I live in Oregon and we get plenty of cold weather with snow and ice. I would assume that many of the retractable tonneau covers have the same issue, but as you said and others You Tubers would buy it again. Thanks for the video.
I love this cover. Yes it sucks when the weather freezes but I can overlook that one flaw. I have had no problems in 100 + weather, maybe because I put ArmorAll protectant on it. Would recommend to any of my friends.
One additional design flaw is the plastic corner caps at the tailgate end of the cover. They are secured by a very weak plastic clip and break off constantly. I have had to replace mine several times in the 6 weeks of ownership. Bak has sent replacements, but this is not a good solution. They have acknowledged the problem and say a fix is “in the works.”
Just bought this for my recently delivered 22' F-150. *Disclaimer* I've never owned a pickup truck before (so no experience with bed covers or anything), but this thing is great, so far. My dad has a retractable on his Sierra that was dealer installed, and I think he may be considering getting this instead. I love the low profile, security, and reliability. I'm in Houston, TX where it doesn't typically get too cold, even in winter, so I don't think I'll have many issues, if at all, with it freezing in place. I've also heard the manufacturer for this is fantastic.
Love the design. Quality is not as good. Bought the first one with the truck. Lasted 2 yrs and delaminated. Vinyl on top shrinks in the summer heat. They replaced it but I’m already seeing dimples in the second one after just one summer. They recommend using 303 protectant which I do regularly. Will be surprised if it makes it through this summer here in SC. Would not buy another with out at least a 5 year warranty.
Same here, I’d really like to get this but the price is the only thing holding me back. I love a good quality product but a soft roll up cover is $300.
@@Heavy-C I agree with “you get what you pay for” but a properly installed soft cover won’t be flapping in the wind. They’re cheap but not disposable. I had the same cover on my old truck for almost 10 years no issues. My new truck I’d like to get a better cover but hard to swallow the price of the X4S.
@@93lopezi every truck I see with one driving on the highway it's flopping around and looks like crap. I live in South Texas, so it's hot pretty much all the time. That likely has something to do with it, but it just turned me off soft covers all together.
@@dav2386thor It was the least expensive Revolver back in 2016. Only had a 2yr warranty back then. They sold me another “upgraded” Revolver in 2018 for half price. Only lasted 3 years and I tossed it. They don’t last in the heat. The glue delaminates
I have the Ford-branded x2(?) on my F-150. Love the cover but the clasps to hold it rolled up are a pain and, as you said, when winter sets in, it is a pain to roll. This video pretty much solidified me getting the x4 when my Super Duty arrives in a couple of weeks.
I live in canada, i often drive down to carolina.. so i know what the weather looks like in carolina…you guys are lucky to have palm trees.. here in canada these tonneau will never hold up.. it will freeze between september to may. And it will cook in July.. i was about to order with with my next vehicle but i think i will look elsewhere.. too bad because i do like the sleek design.
One of the best revives I’ve seen to date on this product. Just ordered for my 21 Sierra. Previously had the MX 4 folding. Your review was concise and straightforward with all the information anyone could ever need to make an informed decision. Thank You
Glad i watched your review. I was curious to how it would work covered in ice or frozen snow/slush. I think I will go with a trifold which is not much better but at least you can partially fold it if you fight a little or heatgun the seam.
Of course it would be hard to roll. He had a very thin layer of ice on it. He had to break the ice at all the joints and then had the broken ice keeping it from rolling tight. That condition would be difficult of any cover, and much worse on a soft roll up cover.
There is more than one major flaw. These don’t hold up in one summer season in Texas at all. Vinyl will shrink and pull away looking horrible. I won’t ever by any of their products again. They did replace it, but after my 1 year warranty expires I’m stuck with a $1200 paperweight!
I may be mistaken on the warranty period. I purchased on Amazon and thought it was one year total. Regardless product is junk. My previous rolltrax lasted over 11 years with not one issue and will probably last 11 more for the new owner.
In Texas I have been through 2 covers in 5 years the sun will bake the vinyl cover so it will shrink , crack up an pull in from the sides . Also the felt material underneath peeled off . Bak did one free replacement under warranty but then you're on your own. they offered my a 5% discount on a new cover. In short in hotter climates don't use this cover. You will get around 2 1/2 years per cover.
informative video. There's are indeed some 'enhancements' BAK could do to make their very pricey covers a little more durable for all the different environments.
Had one of the first versions of this cover and never had any issues with rolling in freezing weather. They must have changed something to cause that issue!
Thanks, the freezing info is very important. It didn't look very cold. At my location we got -40°C and lower. Does anybody know if it's still reliable at very low temperatures?
Glad I watched this. I want a hard cover for slight edge in security. Might not spend my money on the rolling and get the flip, i just dont want to block backglass.
Mine friend has the original one in Minnesota and hasn’t had issues. The best one I had here for winter MN is a retrax, otherwise every other one I had struggled.
That makes no sense. There's no kind of roll-up top that will roll when the joints freeze. In the south, just throw some water on it because it's not 32° outside anymore. And if it is 32 degrees, Guess what, you probably should have planned earlier knowing it was going to do that. It's not like we don't know here in the south. Good grief. The delamination problem is a bigger issue in the south and a deal killer.
I haven’t done it but you’d just need to unscrew four hand knobs and lift it off. When putting the cover back on just line the cover up with the tailgate before tightening it.
if only they would redesign that back edge (tailgate end) to be one piece and integrated with the corners instead of using those plastic cover caps they've been using for many years.
I haven’t had any issues yet. Bird poop that was on there for about a week washed off. We are getting major pollen drop right now that is mostly washing off just using a garden hose or a good rain.
You just wait till it warms up to get in your bed. This whole worlds problem is they want to critique every item that is sold when actually quality control and inspection of items before they are sold is non existent
I've been watching every video I can find on this cover to find out how much space it takes up while rolled up! Thank you for including that!
Thanks for the comments on the freezing weather. I live in the north. This helps me decide to research other products
I live in Western NY and am considering one of these anyway. Never had a bed cover before, but this one seems like a good candidate with the snow we get. I would think that brushing the snow off and letting the sun do it's thing would probably work for me, unless anyone has a better idea. I'm not a fan of blocking the rear window like some of the fold-ups do. Thanks for letting us know about the colder weather problem.
Same thoughts here; it was very useful to see what the limitation was actually like. It should matter less if you can park your truck under cover too (garage or shelter so the frost doesn't get to it).
Reading some of the other reviews and 1 thing is definite: it was not designed for extreme temperatures (very hot Texas, very cold North) but they do seem to be making improvements with subsequent versions... see the felt on the X4 versus the rubber on X4S. I am concerned about the plastic-like corners where it meets the tailgate though... in very cold, you'd think they might snap if you try to move or unstick them if they are frozen...
Latest specs seem to indicate the warranty is 5yrs now compared to 3 yrs on the Bakflip MX4.
Cheers!
Thanks Brad, I just bought the Bak X4S yesterday and will install next week when it arrives. I live in Oregon and we get plenty of cold weather with snow and ice. I would assume that many of the retractable tonneau covers have the same issue, but as you said and others You Tubers would buy it again. Thanks for the video.
I love this cover. Yes it sucks when the weather freezes but I can overlook that one flaw. I have had no problems in 100 + weather, maybe because I put ArmorAll protectant on it. Would recommend to any of my friends.
One additional design flaw is the plastic corner caps at the tailgate end of the cover. They are secured by a very weak plastic clip and break off constantly. I have had to replace mine several times in the 6 weeks of ownership. Bak has sent replacements, but this is not a good solution. They have acknowledged the problem and say a fix is “in the works.”
U must be doing something wrong
Idk why man but you rolling it and closing it over and over again really made me get a feel for it. Haha great video brother
Just bought this for my recently delivered 22' F-150.
*Disclaimer* I've never owned a pickup truck before (so no experience with bed covers or anything), but this thing is great, so far. My dad has a retractable on his Sierra that was dealer installed, and I think he may be considering getting this instead. I love the low profile, security, and reliability. I'm in Houston, TX where it doesn't typically get too cold, even in winter, so I don't think I'll have many issues, if at all, with it freezing in place. I've also heard the manufacturer for this is fantastic.
Saved my ass going to buy right now going to have to get mx4 since I live northeast Ohio. Thanks for review.
Love the design. Quality is not as good. Bought the first one with the truck. Lasted 2 yrs and delaminated. Vinyl on top shrinks in the summer heat. They replaced it but I’m already seeing dimples in the second one after just one summer. They recommend using 303 protectant which I do regularly. Will be surprised if it makes it through this summer here in SC. Would not buy another with out at least a 5 year warranty.
I've been looking at the X4s for my pickup. My only issue is for $1k, theses covers seem so overpriced. Good review, thanks for sharing.
Seems like everything is a thousand dollars these days.
Same here, I’d really like to get this but the price is the only thing holding me back. I love a good quality product but a soft roll up cover is $300.
You get what you pay for. A 300 dollar cover is going to be flapping in the wind looking like a 300 dollar cover in about 2 months.
@@Heavy-C I agree with “you get what you pay for” but a properly installed soft cover won’t be flapping in the wind. They’re cheap but not disposable. I had the same cover on my old truck for almost 10 years no issues. My new truck I’d like to get a better cover but hard to swallow the price of the X4S.
@@93lopezi every truck I see with one driving on the highway it's flopping around and looks like crap. I live in South Texas, so it's hot pretty much all the time. That likely has something to do with it, but it just turned me off soft covers all together.
Make sure you save the receipt. I've had two of BAK Revolver delaminate after about 2 years of use. Looks like they bumped up their warranty thought
The new ones offer a 5 year warranty. Is yours the x4S ? When they replaced it under warranty did the replacement continue a new 5 year warranty?
@@dav2386thor It was the least expensive Revolver back in 2016. Only had a 2yr warranty back then. They sold me another “upgraded” Revolver in 2018 for half price. Only lasted 3 years and I tossed it. They don’t last in the heat. The glue delaminates
I gotcha. Well truxedo now makes one too that's about 300 less. So I'm thinking about trying it
@@dav2386thor no
I have the Ford-branded x2(?) on my F-150. Love the cover but the clasps to hold it rolled up are a pain and, as you said, when winter sets in, it is a pain to roll. This video pretty much solidified me getting the x4 when my Super Duty arrives in a couple of weeks.
I live in canada, i often drive down to carolina.. so i know what the weather looks like in carolina…you guys are lucky to have palm trees.. here in canada these tonneau will never hold up.. it will freeze between september to may. And it will cook in July.. i was about to order with with my next vehicle but i think i will look elsewhere.. too bad because i do like the sleek design.
I hope it hold up through our summers.
One of the best revives I’ve seen to date on this product. Just ordered for my 21 Sierra. Previously had the MX 4 folding. Your review was concise and straightforward with all the information anyone could ever need to make an informed decision. Thank You
Glad i watched your review. I was curious to how it would work covered in ice or frozen snow/slush. I think I will go with a trifold which is not much better but at least you can partially fold it if you fight a little or heatgun the seam.
Of course it would be hard to roll. He had a very thin layer of ice on it. He had to break the ice at all the joints and then had the broken ice keeping it from rolling tight. That condition would be difficult of any cover, and much worse on a soft roll up cover.
There is more than one major flaw. These don’t hold up in one summer season in Texas at all. Vinyl will shrink and pull away looking horrible. I won’t ever by any of their products again. They did replace it, but after my 1 year warranty expires I’m stuck with a $1200 paperweight!
Their website says 5 years... did the replacement only come with a 1 year?
I may be mistaken on the warranty period. I purchased on Amazon and thought it was one year total. Regardless product is junk. My previous rolltrax lasted over 11 years with not one issue and will probably last 11 more for the new owner.
@@patrickc6137 well, another one off my list. I live in south Texas.
In Texas I have been through 2 covers in 5 years the sun will bake the vinyl cover so it will shrink , crack up an pull in from the sides . Also the felt material underneath peeled off . Bak did one free replacement under warranty but then you're on your own. they offered my a 5% discount on a new cover. In short in hotter climates don't use this cover. You will get around 2 1/2 years per cover.
informative video. There's are indeed some 'enhancements' BAK could do to make their very pricey covers a little more durable for all the different environments.
Had one of the first versions of this cover and never had any issues with rolling in freezing weather. They must have changed something to cause that issue!
I had an older one the vinyl cracked at the rear where it folds tighter
Interested to see if newer ones last longer
I just order an X4s. Can't wait. Good video brother
Thanks, the freezing info is very important. It didn't look very cold. At my location we got -40°C and lower. Does anybody know if it's still reliable at very low temperatures?
Glad I watched this. I want a hard cover for slight edge in security. Might not spend my money on the rolling and get the flip, i just dont want to block backglass.
I have one waiting in the box in my garage for my taco. Just waiting for a decent day on the weekend to put it on
Easy fix - Move. Mine works great in FL. I haven't had this problem at all.
Brad, Just got my X4s today, installing tomorrow. BTW, I'm in SC too!
wow, won't work when frozen. glad i saw this before I bought. last month we had HIGHS in the single digits...
Awesome review man. I'm impatiently waiting for mine to ship
I live in Minnesota and I ALMOST went with this cover because it seemed perfect...thanks for saving my ass! I would have been PIIIIISSEEEED
Likewise, went with the Bakflip F1 instead with the hope that the freezing temps won't be an issue 🤞
Mine friend has the original one in Minnesota and hasn’t had issues. The best one I had here for winter MN is a retrax, otherwise every other one I had struggled.
That makes no sense. There's no kind of roll-up top that will roll when the joints freeze. In the south, just throw some water on it because it's not 32° outside anymore. And if it is 32 degrees, Guess what, you probably should have planned earlier knowing it was going to do that. It's not like we don't know here in the south. Good grief. The delamination problem is a bigger issue in the south and a deal killer.
Wow that is a huge flaw!
This was super helpful. Thanks!
Have you tried pounding on the top of the cover to free it before trying to open it? I have a feeling that will help with getting it to roll up.
Some WD40 will keep the gasket seal from freezing up on you when it's cold.
What about the aluminum crease from freezing
Will it help?
Still pleased with the bed cover?
I am. It’s still holding up in good condition.
Thank you for sharing!
Are you able to roll up the cover then easily remove the cover to gain access to that extra space?
I haven’t done it but you’d just need to unscrew four hand knobs and lift it off. When putting the cover back on just line the cover up with the tailgate before tightening it.
what is the rolled-up height?
Have you tried Preston’s de-icer?
I haven’t but that’s a good idea.
How hard do you think it would be for somebody to pry in the middle above the handle to try and get access to the bed?
With the right tools probably not that hard. Won’t keep the professional thieves away but will stop the rubber neckers
@@captbradbGreat, thank you
can you just roll it half way (or any partial length) if needed? or is it fully open or fully closed are the only choices?
Just fully opened and fully closed
Small plates at rear come off each time I open it. Stupid design.
if only they would redesign that back edge (tailgate end) to be one piece and integrated with the corners instead of using those plastic cover caps they've been using for many years.
Any issues with keeping the top of the cover clean? Does dirt stain it?
I haven’t had any issues yet. Bird poop that was on there for about a week washed off. We are getting major pollen drop right now that is mostly washing off just using a garden hose or a good rain.
Don’t like the vinyl on top. Won’t hold up in TX weather 100-110 F
So far so good in the SC heat and humidity but I’ve heard that’s been an issue with the older models.
You just wait till it warms up to get in your bed. This whole worlds problem is they want to critique every item that is sold when actually quality control and inspection of items before they are sold is non existent
Ford, they circle the problems.
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@@malcolmn.5222 😆
How secure is locking device and how easy is it defeated with a clothes hanger device?
It’s enough to keep someone walking by from grabbing your items but it probably won’t keep the professional thief out.
Lithium grease, that'll resolve ANY cold weather issues.🤞🏾🦾
Anyone else get wind noise like a whistle ? Cant figure out from where
I haven’t noticed a whistle when it’s rolled up or when it’s laying flat