Hong Kong, the British colony in 1961
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- A worn old American educational film shows how Hong Kong was looked upon fifty years ago before the big boom began. In the next clip the Shek Kip Mei fire will be shown.
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@ykcid00 No - these are not from films I took myself.
we should respect Mr Michael Rogge host post and put all the political difference aside and enjoy his many great vintage video footage of Hong Kong and many other parts of eastern Asia collections.Mr Rogge has done a very great job in bringing the many treasurous past to live in front of many of us.Many thinks to you.
right. sharing is caring and he shared his films.
Fact: Hong Kong didn't have freedom and democracy in 1961!!
@@jakelaw9768 At least we lived in peace and harmony, compare to those political unrest, famine, starvation in mainland China, it's what we called "Heaven and Earth"!
@Britannia 👍👍👍
@@jakelaw9768 so why do you think we want to go back to British rule??
Thank you so much for all your very interesting vintage clips, Mr. Michael! My siblings & I were born in Hong Kong in the 1960's.
It's absolutely great to see how HK has evolved and become one of the top cities of today's civilizations! Good stuff 😃
@marksneddonThe two systems is in turn bullshit in my opinion. It's not forever. Only nominal 2 systems for 50 years. After 2047, HK will be like any typical Chinese city under communist rule.
I have 7 DVD's but only of my own HK films. See:
wichm.home.xs4all.nl/Film_DVDlijstzonder.html
2:44 that's Shenzen? lol
insane if it is
@@1RAGEACE yes
Yes, back then only one citizen
Fact: Hong Kong didn't have freedom and democracy in 1961!!
Ground Zero still don’t now
thank you Michael for this one, my home town,
I always enjoy your uploads
My dad served, as a young man, with Blue Funnel back in the 60's, retiring as a Captain decades later. The Perseus, shown here was a Blue Funnel vessel. Maybe dad was there on that day in 1961?! By pure coincidence, 62y years later, I live and work in Hung Hom, right over the old Blue Funnel dock in Whampoa.
Really. My mother left Liverpool on the Perseus on the way to Hong Kong. It would be good to meet and discuss the Perseus. I saw the shot of its stern and was wishing we could see more.
in this year, the future Hongkong super star Andy Lau(劉德華) was born. And the people in mainland China was suffering great famine because of the Great Leap Forward & People's commune. Hundred of thousands Chinese escaped from mainland to Hongkong.
Yes, the British brought good administration and a gracious way of living. I wish it stayed like that forever.
For the white people! Chinese were treated as second class citizen
Hhh lmao for white people? These Chinese won’t understand what Hong kongers are fighting for.
‘Chinese were treated like second class citizens ‘ is the most funny sentence, actually Chinese are the fifth class citizens under the people republic of China , first class white second government officers third minority fourth Hong Kong Taiwan and the last one is Chinese.
@@entongliu8799 government officials are not Chinese?
Now UK bullied their second citizens in HongKong, they knew how much money they had took
Before PRC took Hong Kong, Hong Kong was freedom and developed country
phil700 ag 😂 hope you visit and then post
country？LOL
@@chancellor1976 half independent city state. Anything wrong¿ you have
To admit t HK was the most advanced and incomparable of any other colonies of uk
Lol it’s still one of the most developed economies.
@user-sk6qb7br7gIt wasn’t democratic but at least it had political freedom and civil rights. The governors may not have been elected but people got to form their own regional political parties, they could show their opinion of the government’s policies, they had the right to protest and at least some sensible civil rights. Even the regional councils which decides local community projects are being suppressing by Beijing. Democracy doesn’t exist here either. Just like Beijing, all other “parties” are under control by the same party. Only 1200 people out of 7,500,000 people get to vote, and all of them are pro-Communist, despite the fact that the PRC is basically a capitalist corrupt empire. The legislative council is also under control by Beijing now, and heck, we have those bills that pretty much 90% hates going 288:0 like the chinese parliament. How’s that political freedom and democracy?
The real question is why didn't the British give Hong Kong people a sovereignty referendum to decide whether if the people really want to return to China. I think it was a bit unfair as the British ignored the opinions of Hong Kong people
Jonathan Ng it is because the British have HK under a 99 lease to China and when the lease was up China wanted HK back and didn’t want to renew the lease with Britain
It wasn't an option. China wanted it back and it was powerful. Even if a referendum was held and they voted for Independence China would have just invaded and boom war in South Asia and no one wants that.
Because history is written by winners!
You invaded hk; and if hk chooses independent, china will invade it too!
Britain stronger than china: hk part of Britain; china stronger than Britain, hk part of china! And if hk win both china and Britain, they will proudly be independent!
minisluy not Hong Kong, but new territories only. China wanted it all, even though only new territories were leased out, not Kowloon and hk island
I first visited Hong Kong in 1980. Loved it, James Bond Hong Kong. I remember the China Fleet Club, that is where I bought my mother a Set of China. It was so mysterious back then. I visited again after the takeover and it wasn’t the same. I’m sorry but I liked it better in 1980.
0:28 finally! It was driving me nuts trying to find this. Ever since I saw Johnny Harris’s video on Hong Kong 🇭🇰 I wanted to find what old documentary he used to capture that time and place. So crazy how a sleepy little port on some rocks become one of the greatest global cities. I wish I had been alive so I could have seen it pre 1997.
1961 was around the time my maternal grandmother and great-grandfather starved to death in the rural village of kwangtung. They didn't eat so my mother and her siblings could. If only they'd fled south to this city a few years before, I may have met them at some point in my early life.
Now some HK people want to escape from HK, as the CCP tightens its authoritarian grip and breaks it's promises on autonomy
A fascinating time capsule, not only of Hong Kong itself, but of the Western POV of the time. The heavy focus on Cold War themes and the rather naive cheerleading for British colonial power look odd to my eyes now, but they're not surprising.
HK$300 million. 1961. Wow, that must've been an astronomical amount back then!
Hi Michael, I really like your CZcams channel. I was wondering if your videos are royalty-free and can be reproduced?
Oh dear God. Kowloon Cricket club! My family is a life-long member of it! The building I was born into and grew up in the 80s'-90s' hasn't even been erected yet! It sits directly behind that shot at 4:28 ... at the intersection of Cox's road and Austin road. Wow.
It's a special land condition given to Hong Kong Bank, no building is allow to be built in front of the bank leading to Victoira Harbour. So, there's still no building in front of Hong Kong Bank today.
@H L In straight line from the width of HK Bank directly to the Victoria harbour, side line out of this width is not inclusive.
Thank you Michael.
brilliant michael, this is great, are these also in your DVDs which you sell too?
Hong Kong has been good and remains a city-state that is very British, unlike the rest of China. Lately though, China has been starting to impose itself on Hong Kong, but the Hong Kongers have stood up and protested. In some protests they had been waving the British colonial flag of Hong Kong as a reminder of the protection that the British authorities used to give them.
I want them stand for themselves!
Not for chinese colonizers nor british coloziners ‘
@yohei72 I even left out some, as they might be considered offensive now!
Please Mr. Rogge,please include as many videos as you wish ,no video shall be deemed offensive if it's only telling the truth.
HI Michael - not sure if you will see this. How can we get permission to use your HK footage for a documentary we are creating for CZcams?
thank you for another great upload of Hong Kong
Mr Michael 👍🙌🙏🙇♀️
Thank you so much for this valuable video translation Hong Kong History in English which is let ABC younger to know more about the real picture 👍🏻
Thanks to British for permitting Gurkhas to live here in Hongkong as a resident.
Lol!
Hey, don't mention it.
@98bigbutt Let the viewers decide! I haven't been there in more than twenty years!
Hi Michael ,I've been back every year last 4 years, and let me tell you ,nothing has changed since you were last in H.K. to be honest, I left H.K to come to Aus in 1982.
Fact: Hong Kong didn't have freedom and democracy in 1961!!
William Holden did a documentary on Hong Kong in 1961 for television. It was called "Report on Hong Kong." I wish I could find it.
Are you sure? Never heard of it, besides 'The world of Sozie Wong'. I wonder whether it was ever distributed.
William Holden was the male lead in Love Is A Many Splendid Thing, opposite Jennifer Jones who was the female lead. The movie was based on a true love story filmed in Hong Kong in the '50's.
@@michaelijsbrand Yep ! Very, very sure about it ! And yep, The World of Susie Wong as well.
Good visual document.
For HK residents DVD's are locally available. Outside HK from me. See
wichm.home.xs4all.nl/Film_DVDlijstzonder.html. I need email address to answer.
Dont lie, I was born in Hongkong. My granny used to say British people used to live in Big houses where the hongkong citizens on slums. British also didnt develop Hongkong. It develop itself as Hongkong is a vibrant place and its easy to do business as its on central asia and also a good business for fishing. She said that british also sucked wealth from Hongkong people and make it in ruins.
You are totally right, Not only that,but Hong Kong people also paid tax and military spending for UK so that most HK people used to live in slums.
Well reggie....if the british werent in HK, the people would have suffered during the civil war, endured Maos cultural revolution and starved just as those in the main land did. The UK saved the people of HK from all of that. Now look at HK, is it better under the CCP?. The UK did alot for HK...
@@StruanRobertson29 Do some homework, do some research. Hong Kong got lucky, not because the British. Hong Kong used to be the only place for communication between mainland and the external market. After China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001, foreign countries could directly explore the Chinese market from Shanghai and Beijing. People like you never think objectively and find out the turth , but just blame others.
@@halewen5879 I disagree. The british sheltered HK from the effects of civil war and famine in main land china. That is why there was so much migration from china to HK, lots of chinese people were desperate to get into HK. And at the time of the handover, the GDP of HK was massively higher than Chinas GDP. That was because of the governmentof HK. And I dont appreciate the "people like you" comment...I am tremendously proud of my West Afričan heritage, and i have zero tolerance for racism. I will do what I can to have you punished for that disgusting comment
Wow,, I love watching historical.
Leuk om je te ontmoeten.
Ja zeker
Thanks for the post.
"Hong Kong" means "the harbor of incense/agilawood."
so he was wrong
Hello there! I absolutely love your videos about Hong Kong and for that I would like to take some of the footage from your videos, if that is fine by you! :) I will put you in my credits so that more people can watch your videos
She was so beautiful back then, it makes me cry.
you miss being ruled by aristocrats
@@shawnv123 Better than being ruled by nazis
@@shawnv123 negga
@@shawnv123
The British are much better, you should know not all countries ruled by the British got the same treatment. Some of them are favoured and got a better living standards and freedom.
Star Ferry forever
the landmark that will never change...
hope so
Amazing
How many DVD for old Hong Kong do you have that are available for sale ? Do you have an index that I can refer to when ordering?
Yes, I'm Dutch but have never been to Suriname, alas.
All power to Hong Kong people !
hong kong loves you!
Keep burning Metro station, there will be no power left.
Great video! Thanks for Uploading it!
Visited Hong Kong 1964 65 as a toddler baby with my father 1964 (65) Remember going past the old Hong Kong main market to catch the ferry cruise P&O ship to the next destination 15 to 20 mins before departure. I was with my German mother , father & blonde 2.5 year old toddler half sister perusing the market area that port stop off.
Thank you very much
i wish HK to become British crown colony again
Your position is puzzling me. I am a Korean and in Korea, nationalism can be as strong as you may imagine. Is going back to China not a retrieval of national dignity from which you have been prevented by British rule? Besides, I gathered HK's economy is not regressing, and HKers still enjoy decent private life as they did under the colonial rule. What is the problem then? I am eager to know what makes you willing to go back to the colony again.
Hyunwoo Kim under the British rule, whether colony or not was just a name or a term. We did not feel any oppressive laws imposed by the English government against us. However, after 1997, we simply feel that we have been ill- treated (by the communist chinese). It is very clear that the level of freedom of speech and the public participation in making policies / consensus has been lowered! The so-called "return" is a sham! We are now living like typical colonized animals : much much worse than before 1997! I am just afraid that the British ways of rule of law would be ruined one day in near future as the communist chinese have repeatedly urged a cooperation between the three powers, the executive, legislative and judicial, but not the kind of check and balance (or at least the independence of the judiciary treasured by the British).
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Basically it is quite simple. British colonial rule was better than commie China colonial rule. Even better would be for HK to be independent.
Why is Chinese colonial rule terrible? China is trying to shift HKs economy from free trade, finances and so on to mainland disneyland. The economy's purpose should be to serve the new masters, who come by the dozens of millions. Health care, public housing, median income, very good ranking in corruption index, crime, free press, education, everything goes down the drains with China ruling over territory, instead of the citizens of HK. And how it should look one day we can see if we look across the border. Nobody wants to be part of that crappy Third World country... :(
Lived in Kowloon during this time as a child with my Father being in the RAF. Being English I learned so much that even today makes me the person I am today. Will always be thankful to those people I felt and still and will always be a apart of the culture with deep affection and respect.
wonderful
It was a tragedy that the British left Hong Kong and ended an era of great prosperity and freedom for the people.
The Hong Kongers themselves spoke the English language and meanwhile the Macanese themselves spoke the Portuguese language.
There are cultural differences too! Those HKers, before 97, had been taught and educated by their parents and teachers whether at home or at school to be polite to people. Now, we seldom hear people say "Thank you", "Excuse me", "Sorry", "please !" plus many others in our daily lives in HK other than the locals.
You are talking cock. 99% percent of population speaks Cantonese!!!
Britons played cricket in CBD in this Fragrant Harbour, Hong Kong, an entrepot, also Casa Blanca to Uncle S.
@babykevinxoxo It was a treaty it happend with Portugal too with hongkong it was 90 years of rulle ? After the 90 years the british had to leave in Portugal the rulle lasted for 440 years after the riots of 123 we had to renegociate our time of rulle só we marketing our day for 1999 ande when the day came we gave their dimond
Dear Michael,
I love your movie clips about old Hong Kong. Is it possible to download or actually purchase CD with all these lovely nostalgic clips?
British Hong Kong is the real Hong Kong
So agreed!
Forever thankful to the British.
I visited HK in 1961 as a Steward on the P&O liner 'Chusan' and loved it.
P&O a very old shipping line. I think it is close down.
@@w.y.6547 Yes, very old, but still cruising.
Yes, the passenger liner is. But, the cargo business combined with Maersk.
……You can send you videos to the museums !
Best place on earth .. wish British never got out 😭😭😭😭
Wishful thinking a weaker country don’t deserve this beautiful place and it’s not belong to Britain at all
sweetfreedom ca yes you maybe correct but I just stating the fact the truth historically fact HK shouldn’t and will not belong to Britain just like India wasn’t so just more on to living and enjoy the 21 century
I agreed, I wish the British never left my city of birth!
Until I moved here, I never imagined such a safe country existed on earth. It is by far the safest country I've ever been to. Must be the safest country on earth.
Its better for Hongkong to be under British rather than being under China
K K wrong
Possibly, but HK ruled by HK would be ideal.
Why did we give up hong kong?? We only had to really give back the new territorys! Sad day in 1997
Rory Souter because if you dont give up, there willbe military occupation and then we sign another treaty!
Example: after ww1 new treaty, germany doesn’t like it, start wa2, another treaty!
Difference: germany lost war, lost right!
Hk is so close to china mainland, i do believe uk side will lose; and then lose right!
Example: india takes goa back by violence and signed another treaty with Portugal!
*When Hong Kong is Britain part.
Hong Kong: I wish I could back to China
*when Hong Kong is China:
Hongkong: I want to back to United Kingdom
What the hack
Unrealistic thinking
Lmao literally no one said that, people were actually fleeing communist china for Hong Kong...
Said literally no one ever...
I believe
Sounds like an American attitude.
Yes, because back then Hong Kong was the only gateway for the western world to do trades with China. That was the unique historical opportunity under which Hong Kong started to grow into an international economic center. Now the entire country has long been open to the rest of the world, and Hong Kong's competitive edge is diminishing. This has nothing to do with Britain's departure. This type of opportunity will only exist in a short time window. Unfortunately for Hong Kong, that time is gone.
They blame others, refuse to seek knowledge, and do not contribute to the development of the city they live. pathetic
hong kong is not the colony of the Great Britain,hong kong is a part of UK😢GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
your brain is damaged.
Ben Connor i wish hong kong people was more strong if not they just need chinese help to support them beside uk helps hong kong life more much quality and greater than china.
Your fake god fake your queen!
If you dont give up in 1997, there will be military attack on hk!
Shut the fuck up please
I don't understand. How can someone yearn to be treated like a second class citizen. Either we are just getting the opinion of anti-China Hong Kongers from the media or Hong Kongers are very stupid. I don't know........
I am from Hk. This is hwk! Click the thumbs up if you think the tech is soooo old school
I sailed on the USS President Wilson from Yokohama to Honolulu back in 1970. I love Hong Kong so much I marred a Hong Kong girl.
No wonder !
@@michaelijsbrand thank you so much for your videos, I love your vintage Malaysian videos. I live in Kuala Lumpur now for the past 30 years. Your videos bring back good memories for me when I was a young boy
is a wrong translation for many that it is not "Fragrance", it is "Incense" rather, though the 2 words bear the same phonetic. the Hong Kong island, albeit a predominantly fishing village, it was most celebrated as a Incense manufacturing outlet. worshipers needed incense when they went visit temples around the area. Most fishermen were/are devout Buddhists.
Hong Kong was better under British
AlexanderTheNotSoGreat that’s untrue, the Europeans were treated well, the Chinese were segregated from the Europeans. Also, when Hong Kongers say “we want to return to British rule” that’s just to get attention. The truth is that we fear our freedoms being stripped away from China
You have had answered why Hong Kongers wish to live and be educated under the Union Jack. The key is "FREEDOM", "Human Rights" and "the sound legal system" !!!!
i dont like Hong Kong now, do u know how racist and arrogant they are to the mainland chinese and Filipinos, they treat us like shit like we are nothing but poor people.... thinking that hongkongese are the richest, they aint shit and are Japans bitch, i dare them to disrepect japanese the way they disrepect and belittle the filipinos and mainlanders
grow up luv
@AlexanderTheNotSoGreat You may check the British law in Hong Kong at first and then talk about this issue. In fact, before the 60s and 70s of the last century, the Hong Kong peoples had no right and still racists by the British law. They were always beneath British people. Go to see some document and Hong Kong movies. I'll name you some, European District Preservation Ordinance and Peak Preservation Ordinance, you'll see how you so-called the British treated Chinese people. Besides, you so-called most Hong Kongese peoples wanna return back to the British, have you done any surveys or you have officiel date to support you? Or it's just something you invented.
Would have been a Great Time to Live in the Era.
In fact for many HKers, no. At the colonial time they were more like the second citizens and not even allowed to enter some places.
I'm French but I Wonder if the independence of Hong Kong for a communist country was a good idea.
Hong Kong without the democracy is not Hong Kong.
Totally agreed your GREAT and FAIR Comments.
Can we talk about the independence of french colony (french guiana/ french parcific)?
Actually i want all countries (sovereignty state) be totally destroyed!
Becasue eveyone’s land is based on robbing!
No need to believe only your country is good; other countries are invaders and coloziners!
Because evey country is bullshit and invaders!
Erwann Le Ligérien be more open minded
You are on wikipedia michael
I was in hongkong in army in1972-74 at stanley fort
old good days... Im sure many hong kongers are not happy under Chinese communist regime.
+dilcii They are more dissatisfy with the local Special Administrative Government then with the central government in Beijing China.
Except that there is no „chinese communist regime“.
My parents are from HK and they really respect the British for helping HK become a great city, protecting it form from the savage communist China. Idk how people think of the British today though ... in HK.
The year I born in Hong Kong 😊😊😊
My question is...if The Crown leased only the New Territories for 99 years, then when the handover came, why did ALL of Hong Kong go back to China?
Because a lot of power plants, factories and other things like that were built in the NT. So if the British returned only the New Territories, then the rest of HK would be in serious trouble. So they simply decided to return all of HK, because they knew that China the brute would not accept a proposal for a renewal of the lease.
Because the old treaty is signed after war (lost the war), and if you dont give the whole hk, we can start another war and sign a new treaty!
Since the old treay is based on violence; them why we cant start a new treaty on violence?
You think the world is based on reasoning and conscience! But it is based on power!
When you genocide native Americans; when you bombed germany/japan civilians, when germany/japan bombed and killed other nation people; when arabic empire/Ottoman turkey invaded and genocided people like you did; nobody cares the reasoning or law!
And of course, if argentina sucessfully conquered that island, it will back to argentina!
They miss the British empire.
Right, and that's why Hong Kong must remain international and special. The politically motivated sinofication is killing Hongkong's competitiveness. If Hong Kong becomes just another Chinese city (but a much more expensive one), then kiss Hong Kong good bye.
Hong Kong we well developed and well led under British , the Royal Hong Kong Police Forces is also among the best Police in Southeast Asia in its time.
The British should've kept Hong Kong as a poor fishing town but unfortunately they gave their most precious colony to China on a silver platter. Really stupid move
It's the Chinese people that made Hong Kong rich not the British, the British govt just adopted a non-interventionist policy to Hong Kong's economy and left Hong Kong to the free market on its own and everybody could establish businesses and make money or lose money, everything is up to your own capabilities, the Chinese tend to be very smart and hardworking and they become rich naturally. The other British colonies like those in Africa, India and Southeast Asia (except Singapore, another Chinese society) remains very poor today.
Hong kong is a world financial centre after new york and london now.
what do you think about it under chinese rule? rich people get richer.
poor people live in hard poor condition.
@luke skywalker True!
stop being phoney. you hate the rich in your country and you wanna lump other people into your white-centric left wing agenda. go eat your fucking white heart out.
1/7/1997...RIP Hong Kong
@luke skywalker that's just called inflation I'm not sure if you know how it works smh
@@---vo7gc Okay "genius".....
luke skywalker That comment didn’t age well.
you are the one who came out with this conclusion hence you should be the proper one to answer.
There are 2 sides to every coin. I never said it was a perfect world and it was up to HK to adapt to progress with the Handover & change or end up as another Detroit. If it was as bad as you say, the population would be going down instead of up. Get real.
better than ever!
One year after, the Chinese developed nuclear bomb
I wish I was around those days and lived in Hong Kong, it was such a prosperous place. The last golden years of Hong Kong were before the 80's, when negotiations between China and The British Government started ruining the British influence in Hong Kong, leading to today, with the many problems arising from communist China.
i remember vividly during british rule, we were treated like dogs sometimes worst i guess it was different for you cause your white.
You white people are too proud. You plunder the whole world spreading conflict that still remain to this day and may never end. You brought your racism when you ruled Africa, Asia and the Americas and you think we miss your racism when you left. You never did anything good for the native Hong Kongers. Only whites enjoyed a high standards of living in HK. So, if the communist regime has been able to uplift people from poverty, how can you justify your "superior" way of life. I have also seen how whites subjugated others in my experience in South Africa. They ruled for more than 400 years, treating Asians, Blacks and coloureds like subhumans, enriched themselves on the backs of others and now when others demand change, they cry "white genocide" Do you know whites used to poison the water used by blacks in South Africa just to test chemical weapons???? And they did the same in other parts of the world....
How's Hong Kong ever since under Chinese rule?
It doesn't mean " Island of fragrant waters." It literally means Fragrant ( Hong ) Harbor ( Kong ). Stop spreading misinformation.
Why many dislikes? That's pretty true!
Samuel Lo there’s only 37 wdym-
why did they give Hong Kong back?
because the brits don't give a shit about the chinese in hongkong and just left them behind and a used toilet paper.
@luke skywalker yes ,it appears that most things prior to the 1997 handover has remained the same almost ,meaning the poverty you see and the wealth that you also see remains but to name a couple of things.
*100 years is over is why!* 💡
how so? please inspire me
Better British!
sure! Rule Britannia!
Do you mean children should be brought up by adoptive parents as long as their own parents are proved not rich or educated enough compared with who want to adopt the children?
Hyunwoo Kim The metaphor is irrelevant and improper at all!
We Hongkongers are not children but sanely people and we all have feelings. The Communist Chinese are simply incapable to rule Hongkong in a sense that they have tried to use their typical methods to rule us. Those methods may be useful to their Chinese people but not to us. The worse they make, the more we will hate the Communist (and even the Chinese people) and more we will miss the Britons!
BTW, the Communist Chinese are not our parents, bear in mind that over 3.5 million Hongkongers are British National Overseas passport holders. In law, the nationality of such passport holders are British, I am one of them!!!!
PLEASE RESPECT US!!!
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!
Hyunwoo Kim Why would u compare China with parents? If you do so, advanced societies have rules at when kids should be taken away from their parents. Usually it is when parents are abusive and China definitely abuses HK ...
Hong Kong Kowloon Tong Gangsta Channel I am afraid you are talking of nonsense. I am not exacting making comparisons between China and HK in the usual sense in which we use them, but in the sense of indicating that the ultimate sovereignty of Hong Kong pertains to China. Even following your way of reasoning, your argument just regresses ad infinitum. Do you mean that every part - every village and every street - should get independent or as you said, 'be taken away'? 'taken away' by whom? Don't you agree, given your assumption, that even HK should be divided into scores of new 'independent states', if a central governmental policy is accused of being unreasonable, and some parts of HKers wants to leave Hong Kong?
At one time,HK was a borrowed place in a borrowed time.Once it was a great place on this planet earth!
England Gave Car's and Hong Kong gave tea!!! ........HAhahaha.
It's the survival of the fittest, the natural law of the concrete jungle.
Those who can afford it move to better lives in foreign countries.
Mainlanders want a HK address for prestige reasons primarily and curiosity about the facilities there the second, but they'll remain foreigners unless they adapt. The Chinese communist doctrine has been in steep decline rather than spreading, even at home, as everyone knows, thanks to all the vast wealth in the country.
Hong Kong was better under the British
@luke skywalker Well Said!
Hong Kong has been doing well after the British left (if not better). However, the HK people extremely dislike Chinese rule, and many of them don't even consider themselves to be nationally Chinese.
Fact: Hong Kong didn't have freedom and democracy in 1961!!
Oh so you’re saying our government does not have to give us democracy because a COLONIAL GOVERNMENT didn’t? So is it okay too for the government to treat us as slaves? What you’re saying is completely nonsense, pointless.
@@VisulC Absolutely agreed! 👍👍👍
Hundreds and thousands Chinese refugees fled to Hong Kong everyday those years. They risked their life, like being shot by communist borders guards, killed by diseases or starvation in the course of escape, just for nothing? but for Hong Kong has no freedom and democracy?
Ok Chang
Bloody communist
Are you Dutch?Have you been to Suriname?