What's My Line? - Betty Grable; Steve Allen [panel] (Aug 29, 1965)

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  • MYSTERY GUEST: Betty Grable
    PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Steve Allen, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
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Komentáře • 361

  • @bettycogswell9851
    @bettycogswell9851 Před 4 lety +78

    When Arlene smiles, she smiles with her eyes......Love her..

  • @kennithumperovitch1312
    @kennithumperovitch1312 Před 2 lety +16

    My dad went to the Norfolk airport too pick up Betty Grable in his limousine. He nearly hit a light pole when he seen her. Oh lord my dad loved Betty Grable. She laughed so hard! I always went with my dad.

  • @leesher1845
    @leesher1845 Před 2 lety +44

    Betty Grable was one of the few celebrities who actually turned and acknowledged the audience.

    • @angerjane
      @angerjane Před rokem +1

      Ethel Merman too. It's nice.

    • @elizabethj8510
      @elizabethj8510 Před rokem +4

      Ditto Lana Turner and Tallulah Bankhead.

    • @esmeephillips5888
      @esmeephillips5888 Před rokem +3

      She knew her friends. Movie reviewers dissed her. Moviegoers adored her.

    • @candy9986
      @candy9986 Před 7 měsíci +1

      George Raft, also

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Před 7 měsíci +1

      Quite a few did.

  • @choward5430
    @choward5430 Před 2 lety +18

    Ms. Grable was a sweet and genuine person.

  • @floralschool
    @floralschool Před 3 lety +30

    I love these shows. The panel are very lovely people and you can see how fond of each other they are and the guests have very interesting occupations.

  • @JimmyFoxhound
    @JimmyFoxhound Před 3 lety +36

    It's fun to think some of those whistling for Betty Grable were probably WW2 vets who had pin up posters of Betty back in the day😁

  • @caryheuchert
    @caryheuchert Před rokem +6

    We need more shows like this again nowadays. So fascinating to watch.

  • @fairlyvague82
    @fairlyvague82 Před 2 lety +34

    I’m in love with Arlene Francis! She’s so gorgeous and smiley and classy, I’d have LOVED to have been friends with her ❤️❤️❤️

    • @chino3796
      @chino3796 Před 2 lety +8

      We used to tease my grandma that she had a crush on Arlene Francis. LOL
      She admired everything about her, from her dresses to how poised she was. I miss those days and my grandma. Even though I'm 66 + old.

    • @stephenliddell3428
      @stephenliddell3428 Před rokem +2

      Me to . . She had such a sexy, earthy laugh . . Best ever !

    • @JulieStJohn-jb4cy
      @JulieStJohn-jb4cy Před rokem +2

      And she has a wonderful sense of humor! I just love her!

    • @brianobrien7983
      @brianobrien7983 Před rokem +2

      In my fantasy life I’m invited over to Arlene’s apartment for Sunday brunch! And yes, she was a delightful hostess!

    • @fairlyvague82
      @fairlyvague82 Před rokem +2

      @@brianobrien7983 Can I come too? 😀 I could bring dessert!

  • @watchman1178
    @watchman1178 Před 3 lety +26

    I always knew "of" Betty Grable, primarily as having been the #1 pin-up girl during World War II. But watching this was the first time I ever got a sense of the type of person she was. She seems very nice, humble, and appears to have been a very good person. She certainly gave off that aura during this appearance.

    • @caroylnmuller4305
      @caroylnmuller4305 Před 2 lety +1

      Kloove hhrer

    • @geraldkatz7986
      @geraldkatz7986 Před 2 lety +6

      I read once where she talked about her famous poster of her back to the camera looking over her shoulder. The reason that pose was used was because she was pregnant at the time.

    • @watchman1178
      @watchman1178 Před 2 lety +2

      @@geraldkatz7986 I never knew that.

    • @cunajo1
      @cunajo1 Před rokem +1

      @@geraldkatz7986 Very true. During an interview in the early 60's, Grable noted that the photographer had to airbrush her bump "out" of the image. When asked of the whereabouts of the original negative, she replied "I have it, and you'll never see it!"
      I once flew transContinental with her as a fellow passenger (1971, if memory serves). You would not believe how tiny she was; maybe 5'1".

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Před 7 měsíci

      She wasn't tiny. She was 5'4", my height.@@cunajo1

  • @ald668
    @ald668 Před 6 lety +31

    Betty was a TRUE star!

    • @jackanthony976
      @jackanthony976 Před 4 lety +3

      Betty hadn't starred in a film for over 10 years when she appeared in this episode of What's My Line? In fact, when I first saw this episode as a teenager, I had never heard of Betty Grable as she was no longer a star except in the minds of older people.

  • @denisecahoon6435
    @denisecahoon6435 Před 4 lety +8

    Wonderful seeing Betty Grable

  • @joycelebaron2582
    @joycelebaron2582 Před 5 lety +26

    She was beautiful on this show. I had to look it up as I didn't realize she was almost 50 when she appeared here. Yes, too bad she died a few years later so young. A curse on you, cigarettes!

    • @Schquirl
      @Schquirl Před 3 lety +8

      I had to look it up as well! Yes, she was 48 here and she died in 1973 when she was 56. Gone way too soon 😔

    • @Etnalleb
      @Etnalleb Před 3 lety +7

      Yea, almost ALL the Superstars of the 30's ,40's and 50"s never made it to 70yrs old because they loved to smoke.

    • @igkoigko9950
      @igkoigko9950 Před 3 lety +7

      Yes Joyce, curse the cigarettes, but don’t give the smokers a pass because second hand smoke is deadly. Solid statistics may not have been common knowledge but coughing and pained expressions of people downwind were strong clues

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Před 7 měsíci

      People have known for millennia that breathing smoke is dangerous and will kill you (house fires, for example). So putting something on fire in your mouth and blowing out smoke, hence it was IN you first, should be a no-brainer to be dangerous. So the excuse of "we didn't have the studies back then" is a cop out.@@igkoigko9950

  • @chino3796
    @chino3796 Před 3 lety +8

    These old episodes bring back memories of a more genteel time in New York.

    • @esmeephillips5888
      @esmeephillips5888 Před rokem

      In fact WML was already less formal by 1965. Fifteen years earlier it had been pretty high muckamuck. Of course all the cast of this episode were longtime colleagues by now, which made them loosen up.

  • @waynebrasler
    @waynebrasler Před 8 lety +36

    Betty was from my hometown of St. Louis. It was be hard to image a film star as famous as she who through her entire life stayed totally earthbound. She never bought into the star life because she was forever the realist, she always worked hard (though she did not love rehearsing her dance numbers) and right to the end she made her own opportunities.

    • @angelacarleton9575
      @angelacarleton9575 Před 7 lety +4

      I remember hearing that Debbie Reynolds while working in "Singing In The Rain" had blood on her feet from so much rehearsal. Unfortunately - Gene Kelly was tough on her. Luckily Fred Astaire was different and told her to do her very best which she did. She mastered the steps as well as any of the three in this musical. Loved her!

    • @jmccracken1963
      @jmccracken1963 Před 6 lety +2

      +Angela Carleton You mean Donald O'Connor, not Fred Astaire - right?

    • @preppysocks209
      @preppysocks209 Před 4 lety +1

      @@jmccracken1963 I can't speak for her but I don't think so. Obviously O'Connor was in the movie with her but not Astaire. But Astaire saw Debby practicing for her performance in "Singin' in the Rain" because he was working on "The Bandwagon" at the same time on a nearby soundstage. Astaire was very nice to her while Kelly pushed her very hard. Debby thought Kelly and the experience were awful at the time. Of course, when Astaire worked with Ginger Rogers, they performed one number so many times that her feet bled as well. I have never read if Donald O'Connor provided guidance to Debby Reynolds during the making of "Singin' in the Rain."

    • @rikastander9700
      @rikastander9700 Před 4 lety +3

      I LOV E THE HAIR AND FASHION OF THE TIME ..1950'S I WAS A TEENAGER AND REMEMBER MY OWN STYLE..AMAZING PANELIST..CLEVER PEOPLE!!!

    • @cynthcorcor126
      @cynthcorcor126 Před 2 lety

      She not famous. Not a film star she never had a part.

  • @shirleyfreeman7101
    @shirleyfreeman7101 Před 2 lety +3

    Betty Grable very lovely 😍 stunning 😍 in your shows and TV , congratulations on your marital bliss , you are the perfection 🥰 💞 of beauty in person as well as your soul ❤

  • @shirleyrombough8173
    @shirleyrombough8173 Před 4 lety +8

    - My favorite panel.

  • @sambonnie6885
    @sambonnie6885 Před 8 lety +57

    Isn't Ms. Grable lovely both inside and out?

  • @mikehudson8884
    @mikehudson8884 Před 4 lety +11

    Nice lady. She even acknowledged the audience right at the end too.

  • @johnyzero2000
    @johnyzero2000 Před 6 lety +37

    I love it how Betty still elicited a lot of whistles from audience.

  • @michaelmiller1215
    @michaelmiller1215 Před 6 lety +17

    Total class!

    • @chino3796
      @chino3796 Před 3 lety +1

      I'm 65 now but remember watching this with my mom and grandma. Admired all the elegant, well mannered people, kind of naive like, but I do miss those days of innocence.

  • @sansacro007
    @sansacro007 Před 3 měsíci

    How lovely, gracious and classy was Ms. Grable.

  • @victoriataylor5457
    @victoriataylor5457 Před 5 lety +10

    Betty was such a lovely lady. Known for her legs, that were gorgeous. Pin up girl during World War II She was married a short time to Jackie Coogan, the child actor in the silent movie with Charlie Chaplain, (who played as the kid.) At this time ,she was married to Big Band leader Harry James. Another good What's my line episode. Thanks

    • @loissimmons6558
      @loissimmons6558 Před 5 lety +3

      I wonder how it felt to Betty when the clincher of her identification was that she was married to Harry James, knowing that their marriage by this time was in serious trouble. Taped 2½ months before this aired, by August a divorce must have been in the works. The divorce was finalized on 10/9/65.

  • @TheGreatAtario
    @TheGreatAtario Před 3 lety +12

    I love that little smack Ms. Grable gives Steve after kissing him

  • @friendofdorothy9376
    @friendofdorothy9376 Před 4 lety +14

    The ladies on the panel had lovely hairstyles...so elegant. Dorothy’s was a work of art. I wonder if stylists of today would have any idea how to whip up a coiffure like that. Hehe.

  • @kenyongray2615
    @kenyongray2615 Před 3 lety +3

    Miss Jernigan was a lovely young lady. Betty Grable was also a lovely lady. Very classy indeed. Thanks for the video.

  • @JJJBRICE
    @JJJBRICE Před 6 lety +25

    Miss Grable humbly acknowledges the audience like : John Wayne Lana Turner, Miss Tallulah, Gloria Swanson

    • @brucemarsico6
      @brucemarsico6 Před 5 lety +3

      Yes.There was more humility in people back then.More gratitude.All flushed away now...…………….

  • @PNZTX
    @PNZTX Před rokem +8

    Class, class, and yet more polished class and professionalism. These were the true "stars".

  • @chrismoor7540
    @chrismoor7540 Před 9 lety +11

    Thank you form a Grable fan down under where this series never screened. Betty is fun to watch. Such clear diction .

  • @conniedoan6917
    @conniedoan6917 Před 5 lety +8

    Love Betty Grable!! 💋

  • @janelperretta9315
    @janelperretta9315 Před 5 lety +11

    After all the years being told I was named after a contestant on this show, I finally looked it up! Pretty neat to see my name sake!

  • @chrismoor7540
    @chrismoor7540 Před 6 lety +27

    Great to see a great star with great diction. Betty Grable. Many of today's so-called stars should look to her for an example of how to speak clearly.

  • @joshnosher3536
    @joshnosher3536 Před rokem +2

    It's fascinating to see these famous stars at their loveliest and most charming, vis a vis some of the stories told about them from interactions on the sets of some of their films. ❤❤

  • @t4texastomjohnnycat978
    @t4texastomjohnnycat978 Před 5 lety +6

    A cute central-Texas goat roper...
    my kind of gal.
    Betty Grable.... one talented honey.😍👍

  • @tomfrost1997
    @tomfrost1997 Před 2 lety +4

    Betty Grable was such a darling love her

    • @Muirmaiden
      @Muirmaiden Před 2 lety

      If you had to live with her, you might have a different opinion.

    • @tomfrost1997
      @tomfrost1997 Před 2 lety

      @@Muirmaiden why?

    • @Muirmaiden
      @Muirmaiden Před 2 lety

      @@tomfrost1997 Because she abused her children.

    • @esmeephillips5888
      @esmeephillips5888 Před rokem +1

      The ctitics kept razzing her, but the public knew better. Betty was at the top of the box office chart for ten years.

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +21

    Miss Grable was 48 years old here (born December 18, 1916) but she seemed older, even by 1965 standards. She was once married to Uncle Fester (Jackie Coogan).

    • @BesonXL
      @BesonXL Před 9 lety +2

      Oh my! I didn't know that. :) There's another star you wished to have seen on WML. :)

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +3

      Johan Bengtsson Jackie Coogan would have made a great MG or panelist.

    • @BesonXL
      @BesonXL Před 9 lety +6

      Joe Postove Especially if he had turned up with a light bulb in his mouth. :)

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 Před 8 lety +2

      The actor Keith Coogan was his grandson! Check him out at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Coogan
      He is a recognizable actor.

    • @angelacarleton9575
      @angelacarleton9575 Před 7 lety +3

      I thought I read or saw in Betty Grable she had to work in order to support her parents. So I give her credit for starting in show business so young. Lovely to see her.

  • @alwaysblake148
    @alwaysblake148 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I love Betty Grable. Fortunately, many of her movies are available today. She began her film career at 13 years (said she was older) and by the time she gained world-wide stardom, she was a total pro. Famously down to earth and kind but nobody's fool, she is magical on screen.

  • @BarryMeek-bd2qt
    @BarryMeek-bd2qt Před 2 měsíci

    wow. Grable. Radiant. What a joy to see.

  • @kenyongray2615
    @kenyongray2615 Před 4 lety +5

    Betty Grable was THE pinup girl for the American soldiers during WWII. I think if my memory is right, she had her legs insured. Miss Jernigan was extremely attractive. Did you notice Arlene following her as she went offstage? I think she was impressed by her beauty when they shook hands.

    • @robbernath
      @robbernath Před rokem

      Lloyd's of London had insured her legs for $1 million.

  • @rr8960
    @rr8960 Před 3 lety +6

    I love Dorothy’s hairstyle tonight.

  • @michaelnivens6267
    @michaelnivens6267 Před 3 lety +3

    Betty Is absolutely gorgeous

  • @VahanNisanian
    @VahanNisanian Před 9 lety +12

    Betty Grable was also a Mystery Guest on the lost June 18, 1965 episode, which was live (she was MG #2; MG #1 was Celebrity Lawyer F. Lee Bailey).
    A portion of this lost episode can be heard on an LP called "The Golden Age of Television".

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +2

      Betty Grable was taped on June 13th, 1965 as a MG and appeared again live on the 18th?

    • @VahanNisanian
      @VahanNisanian Před 9 lety +3

      Joe Postove Yes. This one was taped; the other appearance was live.

    • @49yt
      @49yt Před 9 lety +6

      ***** June 18, 1967 is the lost episode with F. Lee Bailey and Betty Grable. Not '65.

    • @VahanNisanian
      @VahanNisanian Před 9 lety +5

      49yt Oh, no. I got the dates wrong!

  • @angelacarleton9575
    @angelacarleton9575 Před 7 lety +79

    Boy, another "classy actress" - "Betty Grables" She was something else. Too bad stars now-a-days don't behave like ladies anymore. Some do but not many!

    • @Scri58pt
      @Scri58pt Před 6 lety +1

      You'd be surprised

    • @ald668
      @ald668 Před 4 lety +7

      I couldn't agree more! No manners and people dress like slobs!

    • @rosepearl7092
      @rosepearl7092 Před 3 lety +1

      You can't behave like a lady: you have to be a lady - which they are not.

    • @Karla-mu6hn
      @Karla-mu6hn Před 3 lety +2

      @@rosepearl7092Well said! I so enjoy classic movies and the actors and actresses that played in them, however we find out time and time again that their reputations don't always live up to the hype. I don't believe everything I read, but I know how studios put much effort into portraying that perfect image . None the less, Betty seems very nice and courteous here.

    • @gailsirois7175
      @gailsirois7175 Před 2 lety

      GRABLE

  • @VahanNisanian
    @VahanNisanian Před 9 lety +25

    Watch for when Dorothy says "Boy, I'm dead, ah, golly. May I assume that you are not Mrs. Steve Allen?". Granted, she had said the "I'm dead" phrase before, but this is scary when you consider the fact that she died in November.

    • @BesonXL
      @BesonXL Před 9 lety +6

      Maybe this was the last time she said it.

    • @VahanNisanian
      @VahanNisanian Před 9 lety +3

      Johan Bengtsson There was also the "Suicide Pill" comment on the next episode.

    • @kelloggs5473
      @kelloggs5473 Před 4 lety +2

      . . . which tells us nothing about Dorothy’s personal life. Books by Ian Fleming mention “suicide pills.” The Voice of Broadway newspaper column mentioned Mr. Fleming occasionally.

    • @anewcreation8458
      @anewcreation8458 Před 3 lety +2

      @Randall Denison Right.

  • @melodiefrances3898
    @melodiefrances3898 Před 9 měsíci +2

    This was such good clean fun.

  • @mitchmiller2382
    @mitchmiller2382 Před 3 lety +8

    I know what Bennett liked to do in his spare time. . . He used to ride his Cerfboard . . .

    • @SueProv
      @SueProv Před rokem

      He wrote a column with that title in Newspapers.

  • @esmeephillips5888
    @esmeephillips5888 Před rokem +2

    Arlene had a secret women would kill for: She grew more attractive with age. Her charm and warmth irradiate the screen.

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Před 7 měsíci

      I'm not sure she was "irradiating" the screen.

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments Před 9 lety +32

    When we watched Arlene and Dorothy in 1965, keep in mind that Arlene is the older of the two by about 5 years. While Dorothy discovered substances, Arlene must have discovered the man who painted The Portrait of Dorian Gray, for she gets better and younger looking by the month. Still -- tonight their hair styles and their gowns look terrific.

  • @BesonXL
    @BesonXL Před 9 lety +7

    "Merry-Go-Round", that's a beautiful and poetic English word. :) In Sweden we just say "karusell".

    • @brigitkelly5317
      @brigitkelly5317 Před 9 lety +2

      We also have the word 'Carousel' in English(from French carrousel). In a playground, Merry-go-round is usually a simple, child-powered rotating platform with bars or handles to which children can cling while riding.

    • @savethetpc6406
      @savethetpc6406 Před 9 lety +2

      Brigit Kelly
      But I think the contestant in this episode ran the carousel type of merry-go-round. It's interesting to me that you find "Merry-go-round" to be more poetic a word than "carousel," Johan Bengtsson, because I think "carousel" is quite a lovely-sounding word, and I must admit I never gave much thought to the word "merry-go-round" before you pointed it out. I guess it is a sort of descriptive word for a ride that induces a feeling of merriment -- which reminds me -- merry Xmas! :)

    • @BesonXL
      @BesonXL Před 9 lety

      SaveThe TPC God Jul! :)

    • @brigitkelly5317
      @brigitkelly5317 Před 9 lety

      SaveThe TPC thank you and have a safe & happy holiday yourself with family and friends.

    • @alanfollett6242
      @alanfollett6242 Před 8 lety +2

      +Brigit Kelly You may recall that the Looney Tunes theme song is "The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down." I imagine the reference is to a full-scale carousel, not to one of those playground thingies.

  • @motnosniv
    @motnosniv Před 2 lety +3

    Prettiest goat farmer I've ever seen.

  • @loissimmons6558
    @loissimmons6558 Před 5 lety +3

    By 1965, challengers from Queens were less frequently describing themselves as being from Long Island. But the description was still in use by residents of the largest borough (in terms of land mass). He is from the Brookville section of southeast Queens. It was a convenient place to live to get to work at Coney Island. All he had to do was hop on the Belt Parkway (Southern Parkway in Queens, Shore Parkway in Brooklyn) and he was there. It's about 17 miles and 25-30 minutes, almost entirely on limited access highway.
    It was even closer by the parkway to where I lived in Queens until Nov. 1960. In the late 1950's, I can remember going to Brookville Park for a picnic with my family and a handful of my parents' closest friends (my honorary aunts and uncles). I was only old enough to remember a few of those annual summer picnic get-togethers when we took advantage of one of the many parks in Queens. In addition to Brookville, I also remember going to Alley Pond Park, Cunningham Park and Forest Park (where me and my brother would go sledding in the winter). After that, we had a large enough property that we hosted these picnic gatherings in our backyard for another ten years.

    • @taraxacum
      @taraxacum Před 4 lety +1

      I said to people for a long time that my family had moved from Brooklyn to Long Island. Now I realize that they are actually the same land mass, but what a difference in population density and therefore different qualities of land development and green spaces. (Although I miss wonderful Prospect Park).

  • @nmr6988
    @nmr6988 Před rokem +10

    I love watching this show. Everyone was polished, professional, humorous, and really smart and knowledgeable. I don't know where they would get four such people and moderator today.

  • @miraclay
    @miraclay Před 9 lety +18

    I like the hair style of that year 1965.

  • @edgeworldpictures6831
    @edgeworldpictures6831 Před 3 lety +7

    Arlene always checks out thoroughly what the mystery guest is wearing if they are a woman. Betty looked divine as usual.

    • @tinat9486
      @tinat9486 Před 2 lety

      Very competitive is my view

  • @bocajrs7628
    @bocajrs7628 Před 2 měsíci

    I have been watching WML for about 2 weeks. When Dorothy or Arlene introduce Bennett they make it a point of saying he lives in Mount Kisco.

  • @frankroper3274
    @frankroper3274 Před 2 lety +3

    John Daly gave away some bucks on this show. He was in a good mood! 50.00 would buy a lot of groceries back in 1965...many people did not make 50.00 in a week back then.

    • @motnosniv
      @motnosniv Před 2 lety

      I remember my Mother telling me that my Dad wasn't sure he could afford the monthly $92 mortgage payment for our house.

    • @maryzorn3365
      @maryzorn3365 Před 2 lety

      So true. My dad became disabled in 1961. We lived in a duplex and decided to rent out half (furnished) for $15 a week or $60 a month.

  • @1158scott
    @1158scott Před 3 lety +6

    Interesting Daly seems to have no idea of the longtime marital problems that would end her 22+ year marriage in divorce on October 6, 1965 - just over a month away from this air date.

  • @VahanNisanian
    @VahanNisanian Před 9 lety +21

    So two of the three ladies from "How to Marry a Millionaire" were Mystery Guests apparently. Only Marilyn Monroe wasn't.

    • @jmccracken1963
      @jmccracken1963 Před 6 lety +2

      And, in fact, they were both Mystery Guests on "What's My Line?" in 1965. (Lauren Bacall appears as Mystery Guest on the 19 December 1965 episode.)

    • @randylovering24
      @randylovering24 Před 4 lety +4

      Too big a star to be a mystery guest

    • @randylovering24
      @randylovering24 Před 4 lety +3

      @gcjerryusc she was a big star that if she walked out on the set of what's my line the entire audience would scream as if she was royalty

  • @rivaridge7211
    @rivaridge7211 Před 9 lety +20

    A wonderfully talented friend of mine (lounge singer/piano-musician) worked out in Reno, Nevada in the mid-1960's at one of the big hotels (not many "big" hotels in Reno back then!) and during the course of his work met many celebrities. It was always fun to hear his recollections, and the storey which stands out in my mind (above all the others) is his incredibly fond memories of Betty Grable. Betty (who lived in Las Vegas at the time, but apparently visited Reno on a regular basis) enjoyed his playing and they became friends. My friend described Betty as the "most down to earth celebrity he ever met" and couldn't praise her memory enough. Betty Grable and Harry James were going through a pretty rough divorce around this time so perhaps the fun, friendship, and music lifted her spirits. As a post-script, Steve Allen (in the late 1960's) would write a musical for Betty Grable called "Belle Starr" which toured the British Isles in 1969. Perhaps Mr. Allen first got the idea for this show after appearing with Betty on this WML broadcast (?)

    • @soundslikefrank
      @soundslikefrank Před 8 lety +5

      Riva Ridge72 - Was your pianist friend, Joe Carnes? I sang at The Mapes Hotel with him in 1972. Great guy and a wonderful pianist.

    • @rivaridge7211
      @rivaridge7211 Před 8 lety +8

      I'm thinking my friend won't mind my mentioning his name here - it's Jackie Jocko (now well past 80 and still performing several times a week at the Hyatt in downtown Buffalo, NY). One of the funniest folks I've had the pleasure of knowing - and a great talent besides! Thanks for the nice note, and cheers to all musicians everywhere! I couldn't image a world without music and the gifted individuals who bring it.

  • @drumbum3.142
    @drumbum3.142 Před rokem +1

    "Is it Solid, Rather than Liquid ,?.." 🤔😬😐😐
    😂😂😂

  • @Michelle-jz8vl
    @Michelle-jz8vl Před 5 lety +4

    Betty died so young at 53 of lung cancer.
    Just a few years after her appearance on this show. Rip..

    • @4nlover635
      @4nlover635 Před 5 lety +4

      56 years old

    • @aileen694
      @aileen694 Před 2 lety +1

      Lung cancer: That's one affliction which always particularly saddens me, as I've lost three very dear smoker-friends that way. I used to work as a professional singer and clubs in those days were gag-worthy! Wondered for years if I would show some symptoms myself. Each intermission I'd rush to the exit for fresh air. That and my parents' Gene's helped, I think.

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Před 7 měsíci

      genes--lowercase and plural, not possessive@@aileen694

  • @sodality3970
    @sodality3970 Před 2 lety +1

    Both Arlene and Dorothy were in their 50's here ...and they look so good !

  • @juliansinger
    @juliansinger Před 3 lety +6

    I'm moving in a week, so random research is a good break from packing.
    Janell Jernigan got married in 1966 to a gent named Sherwood (that’s his last name, not his first) after graduating from SMU. They apparently had two kids, and may have gotten divorced at some point (but that’s just supposition) because she wasn’t listed anywhere in his obituary.
    She seems to be alive and well and living in Texas.
    I had no luck whatsoever finding anything about Mr. McCullough, but his family basically helped make Coney Island into what it was, and got slowly forced out through the early 21st century. Jimmy (the patriarch) died in 2013.
    Norma Smallwood-Westdyk-Gorman... I have to imagine her second marriage was to Mr. Gorman, since Mr. Westdyk was how she got into swimming pools, but she was married to Mr. Gorman when she died, in 2013. Had a bunch of kids, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and a dachsund.
    Obit: www.legacy.com/obituaries/northjersey/obituary.aspx?n=norma-gorman&pid=163503613

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments Před 9 lety +8

    The last surviving Betty Grable mystery guest sequence. She appeared in color Sunday Night WML in 1967 about the time she took over "Hello Dolly" from Ginger Rogers -- and the video has somehow completely disappeared, though the audio of that game is on a 25 Year TV History Record.

  • @keithhyttinen8275
    @keithhyttinen8275 Před 3 lety +4

    Can you imagine the audience if on some night Marilyn or Elvis walked out and started signing the blackboard?

    • @Marcel_Audubon
      @Marcel_Audubon Před rokem

      Betty Grable had the same level of fame

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Před 7 měsíci

      Not by that time. This was 20 years after the height of her fame. Marilyn and Elvis were at the height of their careers at this time.@@Marcel_Audubon

    • @Marcel_Audubon
      @Marcel_Audubon Před 7 měsíci

      @@SR-iy4gg Incorrect. Marilyn was dead, sweetie; had been for three years ... and people aren't remembered only for the moment they are at the "height of their careers" ... Betty Grable was among the most famous people of her generation ... exactly which generation do you think it was that watched this program every Sunday night? teenagers? No, it was exactly the generation that made Betty Grable famous. Come back when you know what you're talking about.

  • @loissimmons6558
    @loissimmons6558 Před 5 lety +3

    Having lived most of my life one county north of Bergen County, where Wyckoff (NJ) is located, I remember seeing ads for Ray Westdyk Swimming Pools Inc. and later Buster Crabb Pools and Spas in Hawthorne (NJ). The business is no longer around (although perhaps it was renamed again: there is a Dell Landscaping Pools and Spas aka Dell Outdoor in Hawthorne). Norma had been married to Ray Westdyk and then remarried to Edward Gorman. My guess is that Ray predeceased her, but I can't find clear evidence of this. She predeceased Edward Gorman when she passed away in March 2013 at age 86. She and Edward had retired near Charleston (SC), apparently to be near two of her sons by her marriage to Ray.

  • @thomtlc2
    @thomtlc2 Před 2 lety +2

    IMO - What's My Line's dream panel.

  • @sjcohen4444
    @sjcohen4444 Před 6 lety +3

    Mrs. Steve Allen (Jayne Meadows) was not a blonde so I don't know why she was guessed. Although Grable was not starring in a big Broadway show at the time, a few years from then she would when she went into Hello, Dolly!

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +8

    Steve says the Dorothy has just hurried in from the country where she's been working on a book. For Dorothy "country" was anywhere outside the gilded gay life of Manhattan. Maybe Greenwich, Connecticut?

    • @jazzvampire
      @jazzvampire Před 9 lety +2

      Ha! I immediately thought, "What, Westchester County?" after that!

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +4

      Central Park would be farm land for her!

    • @rivaridge7211
      @rivaridge7211 Před 9 lety +4

      Joe Postove Well bless our Dorothy's heart, but (for her) the ten-cent round-trip to Staten Island (via the Ferry) felt like a return to the "olde sod."

    • @loissimmons6558
      @loissimmons6558 Před 5 lety +2

      +RivaRidge72
      You got gypped out of a dime! There is currently no charge to ride the Staten Island Ferry in either direction. It has been that way since July 1997.

    • @loissimmons6558
      @loissimmons6558 Před 5 lety

      +Joe Postove
      You only think you are being funny. There is a large section of Central Park that is known as the Sheep Meadow. From 1864 to 1934, a flock of pedigree sheep (originally Southdown; later Dorset) grazed in this meadow. At night they were housed in a fancy Victorian-style sheepfold and a shepherd would lead them between the fold and the meadows daily, requiring traffic be stopped on the one road that had to be crossed to do so.
      Central Park had fallen badly into disrepair by 1934 as at times the park was a low priority for city politicians, and this was exacerbated by the onset of the Great Depression. With the election of Fiorello LaGuardia as reform-minded mayor after the resignation of Jimmy Walker, cleanup and restoration of the park became a priority. A new Parks Department was created by merging five agencies and Robert Moses was put at the head of it (and he was still in charge in 1964-65 when the World's Fair returned to another city park in Flushing Meadow). The sheep were banished, temporarily to Prospect Park in Brooklyn and then to the Catskills. This was partly due to Moses' new vision for the park's usage by the citizens and partly for fear that as the economic decline continued, impoverished citizens would start to poach the sheep for their own food consumption.
      The sheepfold was eventually converted into the posh Tavern on the Green restaurant. While sheep have been brought in since then from time to time, it is for a temporary promotional stunt or film only. The meadow has seen special events usage and has undergone various cycles of misuse and restoration since 1934. For the most part, it has been used as Robert Moses intended: a place for the people of the city to play, to sunbathe, to picnic and to relax away from the hustle and bustle of the city that never sleeps.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep_Meadow

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +5

    Some breeds of sheep and goats look similar, but they can usually be told apart because goat tails are short and usually point up, whereas sheep tails hang down and are usually longer and bigger.

    • @savethetpc6406
      @savethetpc6406 Před 9 lety +5

      This was another instance when John's ignorance of animal classification really annoyed me -- of course, goats are not in the sheep family! Although there are some similarities, and they may sometimes graze together on farms, they are totally different species. If John hadn't felt a need to conference about such an obvious fact, it probably would have taken the panel a lot longer to get to goats as a product.

    • @ghshinn
      @ghshinn Před 9 lety +2

      SaveThe TPC Exactly! Sometimes I wonder if these city dwellers know anything about animal husbandry.

    • @soulierinvestments
      @soulierinvestments Před 9 lety +2

      Their knowledge of critters was basically rudimentary over the years. That Jesus talked about separating sheep and goats should be a major clue to anyone that they are two basically different creatures. SaveThe TPC

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +1

      ghshinn To Dorothy, animal husbandry was something you read about in the divorce columns. "Your honor my husband was a beast to me, simply a beast"!

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety

      soulierinvestments Why did Jesus want to separate the sheep from the goats?

  • @furyofbongos
    @furyofbongos Před 2 lety +1

    Love the un-PC pistol shot in the into!!

  • @ReynaHerichan7769
    @ReynaHerichan7769 Před 6 lety +5

    I love Dorothy's laugh. And also love to see when Arlene laugh. Her eyes and facial expressions look alike Jennifer Aniston.

    • @lopa2828
      @lopa2828 Před 2 lety

      You mean miss Aniston resembled her 😁

  • @axiomist1076
    @axiomist1076 Před 4 lety +4

    He-hey ! August 29th, that was my 18th birthday ! Dont remember if I saw this ep. but being that it showed on Sunday, I probably did.

  • @Gwaithmir
    @Gwaithmir Před 4 lety +3

    I was hoping that one of the panel members would ask Mr. McCullough if he was a friend of Al Lewis, who also worked at Coney Island.

  • @dusterowner9978
    @dusterowner9978 Před rokem +2

    the host would have made a great politician. He can sure spin the words . 😂😂😂😂

    • @kentetalman9008
      @kentetalman9008 Před 2 měsíci

      But unlike a politician, most of what he says is true.

  • @lancedukel3436
    @lancedukel3436 Před 3 lety +2

    She's lovely.

  • @DA90027
    @DA90027 Před 9 lety +23

    Betty was a three pack a day smoker which is why she didnt age well she died 8 years after this at age 56 from cancer. Sad she was so pretty when younger

    • @michaelnaisbitt1639
      @michaelnaisbitt1639 Před 7 lety +2

      Twaddles McGee someone should pull their fingers out and kill off cancer. It costs too much in human lives

    • @angelacarleton9575
      @angelacarleton9575 Před 7 lety +6

      It's too bad she died so young because, as you mentioned, she was a "beauty." I hate the way Harry James was a gambler and unfortunately they lost a lot of their money ! I would have had separate accounts!

    • @spicey6646
      @spicey6646 Před 5 lety +2

      That's probably why she smoked so much.It calms your nerves.She should have divorced him.

    • @victoriataylor5457
      @victoriataylor5457 Před 5 lety +1

      Twaddles McGee : Get real ! She aged beautifully. God look at her . Are you nutts ? You see what you look like when you get older . Omg get real ! So what , she died! We all have to go sometime !! Like anyone has the power over life or death. I Dont think so. Twaddles

    • @victoriataylor5457
      @victoriataylor5457 Před 5 lety

      @@michaelnaisbitt1639 Alot of things causes cancer ! Soooooo we all have to go. And when your time comes , you cant stop it ! Cancer is terrible yes! But what can anyone do about it? Go figure out how to cure it! Many things causes cancer. Or so they say ! Its genetic! You will either get it, or you wont. Just like diabetes , we all go sometime. Death, is something we cant get out of , or escape from.Youd think with all of the technology today, they could get a cure. But they dont, and they wont, and why dont they, or wont they ? Because it's far too much money for Big Pharma to have to give up. Cancer or diabetes, Big Pharma is taking in the millions of bucks, NOT, to come up with a cure. Way too much money for them , to just let some genius, come along, and find a a cure for. Think about it. ! Big Pharma is so corrupt it's terrible. Some of their drugs make people worse, not better. Some of the drugs are killing people or maiming them, for life. You see it daily. And they have drug reps. that bring samples of these drugs to your Dr. So they can dish them out to patients. Why? People need to wake up. There are some that go into remission , for awhile, but very few. They usually get cancer somewhere else, later in life. Chemo is horrid, it ravishes your body, makes your hair fall out, vomit, and many other very horrible side effects. Not for me, I would rather die. Death isn't so bad. In fact its probably pleasant. Why people fear it, I'm not sure. Fear of the unknown I guess. I'm not scared of death, because I know where I'm going , or my spirit is going. That's more important, to know where you will end up for eternity, rather than your moral body goes. So I'm not afraid of death. It happens quickly, at the point of death, not the suffering you do before, in the mortal body. That's the terrible part.

  • @jimrick6632
    @jimrick6632 Před 6 lety +7

    OH THAT GRABLE....WOW....

  • @nothing2seehere34
    @nothing2seehere34 Před 2 lety +3

    This episode is interesting, I didn't realize that Bennet was going to publish a book for Dorothy.. She just came in from the country to do the show as if she was not in her apartment that week, but then again they kept saying how hot it was so most rich do flee to the country during the summer. I wonder if it was THE book. It makes me think that Bennet may have known where the notes and manuscript was all along. It is well known that "none of her friends to family ever talked about it again." I think Johnnie Ray is the only one still alive that was close to Dorothy. Maybe in a few more year we will be able to see what she was working, Ethel can't live forever, I believe that everyone else around and involved are gone now and I would hope that Caroline wouldn't stop it from coming out. Either way.. it's time for whatever she was working on to come out.

  • @randalpierce8406
    @randalpierce8406 Před rokem +2

    How would a goat ever be mistaken for being in the sheep family? Their 'hair' and eyes are extremely different!

  • @bigoldinosaur
    @bigoldinosaur Před 9 lety +7

    Dorothy's "HOOP!!!"

    • @jmccracken1963
      @jmccracken1963 Před 6 lety +1

      When that happened, I thought, "Dorothy's got a "weenie"!"

  • @IndianOutlaw1870
    @IndianOutlaw1870 Před 5 lety +4

    She was 48 here. Didn't turn 49 until December.

  • @scottlevin3966
    @scottlevin3966 Před 4 lety +5

    I love these outfits don’t you.

  • @monicaplayproductions428
    @monicaplayproductions428 Před 8 lety +2

    +Leading Man ,Miss Grable is a perfect Doll:)

    • @t4texastomjohnnycat978
      @t4texastomjohnnycat978 Před 5 lety

      Mónica Play Productions
      I'm a " brunette" type guy, but Betty Grable was an absolute doll. 😍👍

  • @shanshan8687
    @shanshan8687 Před 5 lety +9

    20 years after the height of her popularity and she was still getting wolf whistled! Lol

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +9

    Only Dorothy Killgallen, a true intellect, but ultimate city girl, would not know veal comes from calves. She probably thinks it comes from the kitchen when the maid puts it down in front of her.

    • @hrhqueene
      @hrhqueene Před 6 lety +1

      Arlene Francis thought. mutton was an animal.

    • @thamnosma
      @thamnosma Před 6 lety +1

      They weren't exactly whizzes when it came to biology.

    • @neilmidkiff
      @neilmidkiff Před 5 lety +3

      @@hrhqueene In French, "mouton" is "sheep" -- so she wasn't completely wrong. Many food words in English come from French animal names: beef from boeuf, poultry from poulet, veal from veau, mutton from mouton, etc.

  • @tommoncrieff1154
    @tommoncrieff1154 Před 2 měsíci

    Back when America had class. Everyone is so beautifully dressed.

  • @shadowgirl8038
    @shadowgirl8038 Před 7 měsíci

    Steve Allen when he introduced Dorothy Kilgallen. "She just came in from the country where she has been working on a book" Kind of eree. That never finished book got her murdered less than 3 months later. 😢

  • @esmeephillips5888
    @esmeephillips5888 Před rokem +1

    Sign of changing times: When did Arlene and Dorothy stop wearing long gloves with their gowns? Early 1960s?

  • @soulierinvestments
    @soulierinvestments Před 9 lety +6

    First game: animal husbandry among New York sophisticates. Wow. Very funny stuff. What is veal made out of? What is a mutton? And little butt-er. Speechless.

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +3

      Animal husbandry is legal only in Tennessee. And you have to be at least 8 years old.

    • @MrJoeybabe25
      @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +4

      Sometimes I think city folk when confronted with the real life outside of the Cathedral Megalopoli would breed well with the Jethro's and Jasper's into some kind of three toed, mink stoled, liberal, sub-urban species of Hee Haw like proportions. But they would keep their apartments

    • @t4texastomjohnnycat978
      @t4texastomjohnnycat978 Před 5 lety +1

      Joe Postove
      😂🤣👍

    • @preppysocks209
      @preppysocks209 Před 4 lety +2

      I am surprised when mohair was mentioned, Dorothy didn't ask what kind of animal a mo was. For all their supposed cosmopolitanism, New Yorkers of a particular type can be the most provincial people around.

    • @aileen694
      @aileen694 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MrJoeybabe25 😱

  • @JohnnyPunish
    @JohnnyPunish Před 2 lety

    Class

  • @monicaplayproductions428
    @monicaplayproductions428 Před 8 lety +3

    +RivaRidge'72 ,Awww this is so beautiful what you say about your Betty grable memory!!

  • @robertlongwill8856
    @robertlongwill8856 Před 3 lety +3

    What a doll Betty Grable was. Beautiful and sweet and classy. What happened to the women nowadays? Rarely see that combination in a woman.

  • @karenedmiston5964
    @karenedmiston5964 Před 3 lety +2

    It must have been very hot in the theater that night. Everyone was sweating 😅

  • @BesonXL
    @BesonXL Před 9 lety +4

    Bennett's Weekly Pun: "You get a little buttered." (The lady who raised goates) 8:41
    and John's reply: "I think we butter move on to something else!" 8:56

  • @MrJoeybabe25
    @MrJoeybabe25 Před 9 lety +3

    Betty Grable would portray Dolly Levi in "Hello Dolly" in 1967. That was in the all leg version.

  • @Gioveolympus
    @Gioveolympus Před rokem +1

    Steve Allen introduces Dorothy Kilgallen by saying that she was working on a book: which one was it?

  • @4nlover635
    @4nlover635 Před 5 lety +3

    Perform with her husband!😂🤣🤣🤣

  • @justthinking526
    @justthinking526 Před 3 lety +2

    The 1st contestant looks like she could be Scarlett Johansson mother

  • @VahanNisanian
    @VahanNisanian Před 9 lety +4

    Videotaped on June 13, 1965.
    Same panelists as on the Live June 13 episode. That's a dead giveaway.

  • @lukepearson5639
    @lukepearson5639 Před 5 lety +1

    Betty speaks exactly like Goldie Hawn