@@the_SportVilleDisagree, what they do off the field has a huge impact on what they do on the field. For example Brady and Manning, true goats for their generation.
@@user-ek8sh2fg6f that’s ridiculous. By that means Lawrence Taylor is not the goat linebacker or should not be in the Hall of Fame. Just a dumbass take idc if you like him or not that should not matter to how good they are
@@the_SportVille The butt-hurt runs deep for you when it comes to the drama queen. If Lawrence Taylor had other players near his skill level and working like Brady or Manny off the field, they would be better than Lawrence Taylor. It might be tough to hear, but its true in every aspect in life. Its the extra effort the separate the great from the good, and rogers didn't didn't do it, thus he didn't have it. Also, rogers focused on money and being the highest paid player, not winning super bowls. The goats care about legacy over paychecks. Something you never heard about rogers, he took a team friendly deal to help his team, instead he's the highest paid player in the nfl contract after contract. I'm not a brady fan, but he did everything rogers didn't do. He took team friendly deals contract after contracts and did the extra work off the field. That's why brady he is the goat and rogers is not. The results are undeniable and speak for themselves....
Marino, Mahomes are better throwers of the football then him and Montana Brady Elway and Manning are better game managers and winners! So unless your criteria is his first name is Aaron and last name Rodgers he isn’t the goat of anything but underachieving.
@@dustinbridges6831 goat. The greatest of all time. Aaron rodgers is the most talented quarterback god has every made and the stats back in up. I am not here to argue against facts it is pointless. It comes down to how you define the goat.
@@the_SportVille Thats just not true. He maybe the moat talented to play his whole career in-the NFL where you cant touch the receiver past 5 yards and the rules make it super easy to throw the ball. These guys today would have a hard time in the 70s, 80s, and 90s where the qb was punished. Manning was blown out in the playoffs yearly until they changed the rules. Marino won zero super bowls but threw better than Rodgers ever dreamed of. Guys like Aikman only threw 20 TDs or more one season because it was hard to do back then.
@@the_SportVille one is 35-13. The other is 12-10 but yes Brady has choked more. Not to mention the packers always lost at home with rodgers throwing multiple picks
@@jeffkiewiet806 did you see the playoff stats in the video or not ? Did Brady not win the 2007 afc championship well trowing 0 TDs and 3 interceptions. It’s obvious most of his wins where not all because of him it’s almost like it’s a team effort and coaching matters having better receivers matters having a better defense matters having a way better office of lineman matters. There was so much stuff the plays into winning so I like to look at the individual stats and Rogers was better not just in the regular season, but in the postseason, especially when you consider the weapons coaching office of lineman he had
Hey not wanting to make more work for you but it would be interesting to see when did Rodgers interceptions occur? How many were legit mistakes and how many were just being chucked at the end of games. Also, the rushing stats are great but how about how many first downs Rodgers picked up while getting those yards. I agree about Rodgers that when you are considering skill/athleticism that he is better than even Brady. I think Rodgers wins all those Super Bowls with the Patriots and maybe even one or two more. All of that is coming from technically a life long Bears fan.
@@dustinbridges6831 no he would not. There were many quarterbacks in the 80s and 90s that were better than him so he would not do better today’s NFL. He is one of the most overrated quarterbacks throw so much interceptions. And lost 3 superbowls and it was on him. Aaron Rodgers is way better and it’s not even close he head two times less interceptions did him and played way less games.
He already is in the conversation and on track to be the goat and that’s for whoever you think it is. But Brady is great but rodgers is more talented and that’s why I think he is the goat
@@gongshow6766 it’s a team effort. What Rogers did individually compared to what Brady did individually Rogers stands alone. He is way more talented and if he was put in the position of him, the stats prove he would have more accomplishments and that’s not me taking away from Brady. It’s me giving to Rogers people just don’t understand how good he really was and he look at him the wrong way because of 1 ring what was not his fault he did not get a other one
I believe in the "REAL GOAT" scoring system that compares all the great quarterbacks since 1947 to the average quarterback of their era and then compares how far each is ahead to how far above average all the other greats are. If you do that then Rodgers is just a few points ahead of Brady with both scoring in the upper 500's. That said they rank #7 and #5 among all quarterbacks since 1947. The top 4 of all time when you compare them against average are Johnny Unitas, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Fran Tarkenton. That is including the team success category. Without the team success category if Brady were to have to be rated on just his own personal play he would drop significantly down to #11 and even lower if the longevity category were removed.
Tom brady, the real GOAT, won just as many NFC championchips as Aaron (choak) Rodgers dispite playing in the AFC for 19 years. You have to be able to elevate your team, Aaron can't.
It’s a team effort. Team accomplishments are relevant, at least to an extent and no, certainly not to the extent of individual stats, and Rogers was better
Lolz. Bad takes are us. Also, redefining the term GOAT doesn't help you. It makes it appear that you can't make the argument based on the real definition. Which, of course, you can't. Also, get your audio sorted - it sounds like you're making the video in your bed at night and you don't want your mom to know you're still up. Weird.
you tell me what you think the goat is. because i think it means who was the best the greatest. and it was aaron. if you think it's based off s then that's you not me. if you think it's based off trophies and accomplishments and yes it's brady but I think it is what it took for you to get your accomplishments and how good you where with the position you where in. and that's rodgers
The LeBron and Jordan debate is way different because Jordan’s individual stats of the time. Are way better than LeBron‘s well Rogers individual stats in the time. Period is better then Brady’s. and they also weren’t completely two different areas with different rules well Rogers and Brady played in the exact same era with the same rules so that comparison is not an accurate analogy. And Rogers is better in the big games it’s just he doesn’t get billed out as much as Brady did
I actually agree with u but they this video was made and the arguments used and stuff was poor. Makes it hard to watch. I wouldn't use the term GOAT for any player, maybe if u insist using than possibly Jim Brown or a Don Hutson type player.
What argument to do not like? And that’s also why I said, in the beginning of the video, the goat of the quarterback position, because I think Lawrence Taylor and Jerry Rice are the true goats of the NFL. But glad you agree
@@the_SportVille I dont think I liked really anything said to be honest. It seems very anti-Brady and Patriots and just obvious statistics being thrown out. Like how about compare multiple QBs. How about using examples of like maybe the all INTs in the playoffs and showing how much were actually on the QB, just an idea like showing how both INTs in the 2014 playoffs were not really on Rodgers or even a subjective non PI that allowed Murohy-Bunting to hold Lazard and jump in front for an INT in the 2020 championship. U also way overexaggerate things. Like the average fan probably knows Rodgers has better passing stats (I know he has less passing yards per game but if u added rushing yards per game then Rodgers averages more yards per game). Like ur trying to convince people it seems which generally a video doesnt really do that but that seems like something ur trying to do but exaggerate and make it seem like the Patriots scandels are a reason why Brady has more SB victories than Rodgers or that 2020 Bucs is some kind of all time team. I rather u said the Bucs are more talented imo. The Bucs got hot that year and they didnt even win their division. U could even brought up mistakes by Packers players or bad/non calls. Could of showed that Lazard play i mentioned leading to #25 dropping a pick on the next drive then TB gets a 4th down conversion then they give up the hail mary which King who is injured, is playing and allows Miller behind them, then after half. Aaron Jones fumbles. That got GB in 18 point hole. U could of picked the 2014 championship game. Showed the 1st INT on the 1st drive where they miss the offsides. Could of showed the 4th INT of Wilson where Burnett just falls down or gives up on the return. Could of showed the special teams miscues or Cobb stopping on an out route for INT (a QB/WR miscommunication)These are just two games. U had 231 regular season games and like 21 postseason games. Ur bias and argument is so slanted it just doesnt make it a good debate or argument. Like ur few good points are usually common points people make like the PPG that each of their defenses in the postseason. Like I dont expect u to necessarily go by game or go through every game unless u were making a 10 hour video. U made the whole video a Brady-Rodgers thing which if thats what u want then okay but I was just annoyed watching it. I also dont want to write a 10 page essay going through each playoff game or big game because Im not making the video or doing this for every video I see like this.
@@FlintGiven well, I understand your criticism and I’ll give you this. No, I am not a fan of Brady, but in the opening part, I made it very clear that accomplishments are great, and he is a great player of all the respect, and at the end I gave him his hat, saying his accomplishments are way greater.. and no, I did not go play-by-play or game by game. I really just show the overall stats because I didn’t wanna make this too long and I already spent hours on the research. And this video is not a knock on Brady it’s more of a praise on Rogers to be better than Brady because it’s all well known that Brady is great and yes, maybe most fans do know that his regular season stats are better, but when I’m making a video saying he’s better. I have to show that for the general audience. and the reason why I did not show any other quarterbacks is because I have and know there stats and none of their stats come close to Brady and Rogers Drew Brees had the passing yards Peyton manning had the passing yards but way too much interceptions and Joe Montana just has not as much passing yards and his slower career even though he was amazing in the postseason The reason why I only really compared Brady stats because he is widely excepted as the goat and that’s why I compared Rogers to Brady not other quarterbacks. And I think that the cheating scandals are really really important to bring up because it did happen, and it definitely affected the beginning of his career with the spy gates and whether I was arguing, Peyton, Manning, or Joe, Montana was the Goat i would bring that up because it did happen, and I’m not gonna ignore it and yes, the Buccaneers team was a super team. Regardless, they won the division or not. They had one of the best o line with Tristan and Leonard Fournette when he was playing really good they had Mike Evans Chris Godwin, Antonio Brown. They also had gronk. And not Defense to have the best middle linebacker core in the NFL also with one of the best safeties Winfield Junior also at Jason Pierre Paul, when he was still playing really good I think it’s ridiculous to claim it’s not with that team is not an elite team and even if not it’s a better team than Rogers ever had and it’s barely even close. And that speeks volume and that’s why I had to bring it up. But with all do respect i understand what you are saying i guess the video can not be made to the liking of ever qb. If you would want to make the video how you would want to argue the points then I would love to see that because I am glad we can agree he is the greatest
@@the_SportVille I understand where u r coming from those standpoints. Stats can only go so far without context which u did add some. I would argue the 2009 and 2010 and even the 2014 were in that same talent level as the 2020 Bucs, it is at least debatable. My point about that was to say they are a SB winner but there not even a top 50 all time in the 104 year history of the nfl. Were they more talented than the 2020 GB team...yes. Idk who i would put as a "super team". I dont really use that term but maybe u can say that for the 2007 Patriots team or something like that.
Rodgers is a a stat padder and choker and nothing more. Sure he looked good stat padding against the bears, lions, and Vikings for 15 years (so did 28 other teams) but the guy can’t perform and win when it actually matters and his one and only NFCCG win was against a back up where he got bailed out his defense. Goats don’t have only one ring and go 14 years without even making a SB appearance lmao.
Hell no. I don’t even like rodgers I like Peyton manning way more. This is my opinion and if you don’t like I don’t care. I have stats to back It up to
mahomes is in in the debate yes it is to soon to say he is the goat but he has had the best 6 season by a qb in nfl history in anyones time period and its his first 6 he is still in his 20s and has won 2 mvps and 3 superbowls. you have to respect that. but Rodgers stats are way better then joes. hes not even top 20 in passing yards all time but yes he is still top 5 because how clutch he was in the playoffs but goat hell no not even close. i mean for starters mahomes already has over half his passing yards and hes only played 6 seasons and thats with out jerry rice may i add. joe played 192 games here is his 192 all game stats to Rodgers fist 192. joe has 40551 passing yards Rodgers has 10000 more with 51245 passing yards joe has 273 tds Rodgers has double that with 412 joe has 139 ints Rodgers has 50 less more with 89 joe has 1676 rushing yards Rodgers has 3271. stats are not even close so next time bring facts or i will bring them for you.
@@cobrakaikarateYT Mahomes been carried by god squads his whole career, infact over 50% of his stats are caused by either Hill or Kelce, also you put the smartest coach oat behind the calls also helps a lot. He’s get more media attention for cool sidearms and no looks but that doesn’t affect the score
@@extellenredrapfan he won two superbowls without hill and kelce did not even have 1000 yards this season he carries his team. did joe not have jerry rice did brady not have gronk.
So what? The only thing Rodgers is the GOAT in is his unmatched ability to choke in the conference championships (1-4). 1 -- ONE -- SB win in 18 years does not make the GOAT. You have to be a Packer fan to even try to push this joke.
As I said Brady choked in champions and playoffs almost just as bad. The difference is he had way better team a better coach, and it got them to the next level
He’s not, and only in the top 5 in one category all time TDs, and he’s choked in the playoffs except for the one year he won a SB, and that had a lot to do with the defense too, Brady is the GOAT for one a few reasons right now, and I hate Brady, he and Belichek cheated, but that’s ancient history now. Brady has the most, yards, TDs, attempts, completions, regular season wins, playoff wins, and SBs. Rodgers could have done somthing similar, but he went for the huge contracts while Brady didn’t and it might have cost him several more SBs, I also didn’t watch the video, there’s no need, oh, and one more thing, Rodgers is about 20th in winning drives, guess who’s #1? lol, and you can say, “they were always winning,” but they weren’t going deep in playoff games to make multiple SBs. Rodgers also has an 80% failure rate in NFC championship games, unless your an optimist, then he has a 20% win rate in the NFC championship games(1-4), lol
@@the_SportVille Because a lot of your arguments lack nuance. One that stuck out most to me is the sack numbers you brought up. Tom Brady takes a lot less sacks because he's a guy who gets rid of the ball before taking a sack. The only times Tom takes sacks is when the defense blows up the play. Rodgers is a pretty mobile QB. He holds onto the ball to try and extend plays to make something happen. QBs who play like that naturally take more sacks. The weapons argument lacked nuance as well. For a large stretch of Tom's career, he was a guy who did more with less. He did not have elite talent on offense. In the second half, he had Moss for a year and a half. Moss was traded in the middle of his 3rd year on the team. He played one full season with Brady. Welker was good, but he dropped a TON of open passes. Often at the worst times. Amendola was actually better. Gronk is the goat, sure. But Roger's and Brady have had comparable talent on offense. Rodgers usually had better talent at halfback, too. A balanced offense makes it easier to pass if opposing defenses have to respect the run. Rogers is a beast. But you did a lot of P hacking with the numbers to support the conclusion you wanted. There's more, but this comment is long enough.
@@the_SportVille The most ridiculous argument you made for all of Brady's weapons was Antonio Brown. He was in NE for one year and didn't start a single game. Sure, he was on the roster, but he BARELY played ANY snaps the entire year.
@@matthewsmith1779 ok let me response to the first part. first off you are wrong Rodgers is more mobile and does not hold on to the ball to long that's why he has way more rushing yards he is faster and his 14 seasons as a starter fumbled 88 times and bradys is 95. and the reason he got sacked more is becuse he had a way better ol. like how aaron in his career only had 6 pro bowl line men in Elgton Jenkins David Bakhtiari T.J. Lang Josh Sitton Chad Clifton Mark Tauscher, and bradys 14 starting seasons had 10. so you can stop with that silly not true argument.
@@matthewsmith1779 and say its less or not you can not argue it the slightest that he had better wrs or TES then brady and i am glad you broght up the ab. he played 16 games with brady in 2019 2020 and 2021. and that 16 games adds up to about 1 season. and this is his stats in those games 1084 and 9 tds. now yes he was past his prime and i never made it out to be he was still in his prime but lets not act like he was some bum now
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Aaron Rogers is the GOAT when it comes to being the biggest drama queen of the league.
Boo hoo. It’s about what you are on the field not off
@@the_SportVilleDisagree, what they do off the field has a huge impact on what they do on the field. For example Brady and Manning, true goats for their generation.
@@user-ek8sh2fg6f that’s ridiculous. By that means Lawrence Taylor is not the goat linebacker or should not be in the Hall of Fame. Just a dumbass take idc if you like him or not that should not matter to how good they are
@@the_SportVille The butt-hurt runs deep for you when it comes to the drama queen. If Lawrence Taylor had other players near his skill level and working like Brady or Manny off the field, they would be better than Lawrence Taylor. It might be tough to hear, but its true in every aspect in life. Its the extra effort the separate the great from the good, and rogers didn't didn't do it, thus he didn't have it. Also, rogers focused on money and being the highest paid player, not winning super bowls. The goats care about legacy over paychecks. Something you never heard about rogers, he took a team friendly deal to help his team, instead he's the highest paid player in the nfl contract after contract. I'm not a brady fan, but he did everything rogers didn't do. He took team friendly deals contract after contracts and did the extra work off the field. That's why brady he is the goat and rogers is not. The results are undeniable and speak for themselves....
Bold take, in terms of pure ability your not wrong, really comes down to what metrics you use to determine who you think the GOAT is
i agree
Marino, Mahomes are better throwers of the football then him and Montana Brady Elway and Manning are better game managers and winners! So unless your criteria is his first name is Aaron and last name Rodgers he isn’t the goat of anything but underachieving.
@@dustinbridges6831 goat. The greatest of all time. Aaron rodgers is the most talented quarterback god has every made and the stats back in up. I am not here to argue against facts it is pointless. It comes down to how you define the goat.
@@the_SportVille Thats just not true. He maybe the moat talented to play his whole career in-the NFL where you cant touch the receiver past 5 yards and the rules make it super easy to throw the ball. These guys today would have a hard time in the 70s, 80s, and 90s where the qb was punished. Manning was blown out in the playoffs yearly until they changed the rules. Marino won zero super bowls but threw better than Rodgers ever dreamed of. Guys like Aikman only threw 20 TDs or more one season because it was hard to do back then.
No one that choked in the playoffs that many time is anywhere near any goat talk.
Brady’s choked more as the stats prove. It’s a team sport
@@the_SportVille one is 35-13. The other is 12-10 but yes Brady has choked more. Not to mention the packers always lost at home with rodgers throwing multiple picks
@@jeffkiewiet806 did you see the playoff stats in the video or not ? Did Brady not win the 2007 afc championship well trowing 0 TDs and 3 interceptions. It’s obvious most of his wins where not all because of him it’s almost like it’s a team effort and coaching matters having better receivers matters having a better defense matters having a way better office of lineman matters. There was so much stuff the plays into winning so I like to look at the individual stats and Rogers was better not just in the regular season, but in the postseason, especially when you consider the weapons coaching office of lineman he had
@@the_SportVilleBrady has 7 rings rodgers has 1 you’re clueless lmao
Hey not wanting to make more work for you but it would be interesting to see when did Rodgers interceptions occur? How many were legit mistakes and how many were just being chucked at the end of games. Also, the rushing stats are great but how about how many first downs Rodgers picked up while getting those yards. I agree about Rodgers that when you are considering skill/athleticism that he is better than even Brady. I think Rodgers wins all those Super Bowls with the Patriots and maybe even one or two more. All of that is coming from technically a life long Bears fan.
Yeah. It was hard to fine all these stats. But from me watching both of them play many times I am gonna guess it’s rodgers
Didn’t watch video just wanted to let you know you’re wrong 😂😂
This proves how arrogant Brady fans are 🤣🤦♂️
@@the_SportVille Montana was better Elway was better. Manning was better. Mahomes is better a prime Farve believe it or not was better.
@@dustinbridges6831elway with 226 ints and lost 3 super bowls. 🤣
@@the_SportVille Yes. He was far better aNd would have put up crazy numbers in todays NFL
@@dustinbridges6831 no he would not. There were many quarterbacks in the 80s and 90s that were better than him so he would not do better today’s NFL. He is one of the most overrated quarterbacks throw so much interceptions. And lost 3 superbowls and it was on him. Aaron Rodgers is way better and it’s not even close he head two times less interceptions did him and played way less games.
Tom Brady hands down, but if Mahomes wins 3 in a row then he is in the conversation!
He already is in the conversation and on track to be the goat and that’s for whoever you think it is. But Brady is great but rodgers is more talented and that’s why I think he is the goat
@@the_SportVille Are you saying Rodgers is the goat? Brady has 7 rings!
@@gongshow6766 it’s a team effort. What Rogers did individually compared to what Brady did individually Rogers stands alone. He is way more talented and if he was put in the position of him, the stats prove he would have more accomplishments and that’s not me taking away from Brady. It’s me giving to Rogers people just don’t understand how good he really was and he look at him the wrong way because of 1 ring what was not his fault he did not get a other one
I believe in the "REAL GOAT" scoring system that compares all the great quarterbacks since 1947 to the average quarterback of their era and then compares how far each is ahead to how far above average all the other greats are. If you do that then Rodgers is just a few points ahead of Brady with both scoring in the upper 500's. That said they rank #7 and #5 among all quarterbacks since 1947. The top 4 of all time when you compare them against average are Johnny Unitas, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning and Fran Tarkenton. That is including the team success category. Without the team success category if Brady were to have to be rated on just his own personal play he would drop significantly down to #11 and even lower if the longevity category were removed.
Tom brady, the real GOAT, won just as many NFC championchips as Aaron (choak) Rodgers dispite playing in the AFC for 19 years. You have to be able to elevate your team, Aaron can't.
It’s a team effort. Team accomplishments are relevant, at least to an extent and no, certainly not to the extent of individual stats, and Rogers was better
Lolz. Bad takes are us. Also, redefining the term GOAT doesn't help you. It makes it appear that you can't make the argument based on the real definition. Which, of course, you can't. Also, get your audio sorted - it sounds like you're making the video in your bed at night and you don't want your mom to know you're still up. Weird.
you tell me what you think the goat is. because i think it means who was the best the greatest. and it was aaron. if you think it's based off s then that's you not me. if you think it's based off trophies and accomplishments and yes it's brady but I think it is what it took for you to get your accomplishments and how good you where with the position you where in. and that's rodgers
"You Keep Using That Word, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means" - Inigo Montoya
The goat doesn't choke in biggest game
buddy did you not see his stats in the big games. did you not watch the video?
there really isnt a playoff game he has choked.
@@FlintGivenall of them
@@extellenredrapfan thats really not the case for any player
You gotta win the big game that’s all that matters. That’s like saying lebron is the goat and you know is the goat Jordan!!!!!
The LeBron and Jordan debate is way different because Jordan’s individual stats of the time. Are way better than LeBron‘s well Rogers individual stats in the time. Period is better then Brady’s. and they also weren’t completely two different areas with different rules well Rogers and Brady played in the exact same era with the same rules so that comparison is not an accurate analogy. And Rogers is better in the big games it’s just he doesn’t get billed out as much as Brady did
What is this 😂😂😂😂 but fr respect to Arron Rodger
Did you watch the full video 🤣
@@the_SportVille yeah and I didn’t realize I turn the volume up high and when I heard you speaking the volume made my fall off my chair
@@Hoop356 oh brother 🤣🙏
BRO FORGOT RANDALL COBB AND JAMES JONES 💀💀
Oh wow Randall Cobb the second coming of Jerry rice
@@the_SportVille Chris Godwin the second coming ? 💀
Gronk and moss??
@@the_SportVille and?
Seems like you started watching football as of 2018. Young buck
@@milkcrate805 so you think Randall Cobb and James Jones is better than gronk and moss got it 👍🏼 old buck
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Brady 0 TDs 3 ints in the 2007 afc championship and still gets to the Super Bowl.
Enough said
As a liar he's a goat.
I actually agree with u but they this video was made and the arguments used and stuff was poor. Makes it hard to watch. I wouldn't use the term GOAT for any player, maybe if u insist using than possibly Jim Brown or a Don Hutson type player.
What argument to do not like? And that’s also why I said, in the beginning of the video, the goat of the quarterback position, because I think Lawrence Taylor and Jerry Rice are the true goats of the NFL. But glad you agree
@@the_SportVille I dont think I liked really anything said to be honest. It seems very anti-Brady and Patriots and just obvious statistics being thrown out. Like how about compare multiple QBs. How about using examples of like maybe the all INTs in the playoffs and showing how much were actually on the QB, just an idea like showing how both INTs in the 2014 playoffs were not really on Rodgers or even a subjective non PI that allowed Murohy-Bunting to hold Lazard and jump in front for an INT in the 2020 championship. U also way overexaggerate things. Like the average fan probably knows Rodgers has better passing stats (I know he has less passing yards per game but if u added rushing yards per game then Rodgers averages more yards per game). Like ur trying to convince people it seems which generally a video doesnt really do that but that seems like something ur trying to do but exaggerate and make it seem like the Patriots scandels are a reason why Brady has more SB victories than Rodgers or that 2020 Bucs is some kind of all time team. I rather u said the Bucs are more talented imo. The Bucs got hot that year and they didnt even win their division. U could even brought up mistakes by Packers players or bad/non calls. Could of showed that Lazard play i mentioned leading to #25 dropping a pick on the next drive then TB gets a 4th down conversion then they give up the hail mary which King who is injured, is playing and allows Miller behind them, then after half. Aaron Jones fumbles. That got GB in 18 point hole. U could of picked the 2014 championship game. Showed the 1st INT on the 1st drive where they miss the offsides. Could of showed the 4th INT of Wilson where Burnett just falls down or gives up on the return. Could of showed the special teams miscues or Cobb stopping on an out route for INT (a QB/WR miscommunication)These are just two games. U had 231 regular season games and like 21 postseason games. Ur bias and argument is so slanted it just doesnt make it a good debate or argument. Like ur few good points are usually common points people make like the PPG that each of their defenses in the postseason. Like I dont expect u to necessarily go by game or go through every game unless u were making a 10 hour video. U made the whole video a Brady-Rodgers thing which if thats what u want then okay but I was just annoyed watching it. I also dont want to write a 10 page essay going through each playoff game or big game because Im not making the video or doing this for every video I see like this.
@@FlintGiven well, I understand your criticism and I’ll give you this. No, I am not a fan of Brady, but in the opening part, I made it very clear that accomplishments are great, and he is a great player of all the respect, and at the end I gave him his hat, saying his accomplishments are way greater.. and no, I did not go play-by-play or game by game. I really just show the overall stats because I didn’t wanna make this too long and I already spent hours on the research. And this video is not a knock on Brady it’s more of a praise on Rogers to be better than Brady because it’s all well known that Brady is great and yes, maybe most fans do know that his regular season stats are better, but when I’m making a video saying he’s better. I have to show that for the general audience. and the reason why I did not show any other quarterbacks is because I have and know there stats and none of their stats come close to Brady and Rogers Drew Brees had the passing yards Peyton manning had the passing yards but way too much interceptions and Joe Montana just has not as much passing yards and his slower career even though he was amazing in the postseason The reason why I only really compared Brady stats because he is widely excepted as the goat and that’s why I compared Rogers to Brady not other quarterbacks. And I think that the cheating scandals are really really important to bring up because it did happen, and it definitely affected the beginning of his career with the spy gates and whether I was arguing, Peyton, Manning, or Joe, Montana was the Goat i would bring that up because it did happen, and I’m not gonna ignore it and yes, the Buccaneers team was a super team. Regardless, they won the division or not. They had one of the best o line with Tristan and Leonard Fournette when he was playing really good they had Mike Evans Chris Godwin, Antonio Brown. They also had gronk. And not Defense to have the best middle linebacker core in the NFL also with one of the best safeties Winfield Junior also at Jason Pierre Paul, when he was still playing really good I think it’s ridiculous to claim it’s not with that team is not an elite team and even if not it’s a better team than Rogers ever had and it’s barely even close. And that speeks volume and that’s why I had to bring it up. But with all do respect i understand what you are saying i guess the video can not be made to the liking of ever qb. If you would want to make the video how you would want to argue the points then I would love to see that because I am glad we can agree he is the greatest
@@the_SportVille I understand where u r coming from those standpoints. Stats can only go so far without context which u did add some. I would argue the 2009 and 2010 and even the 2014 were in that same talent level as the 2020 Bucs, it is at least debatable. My point about that was to say they are a SB winner but there not even a top 50 all time in the 104 year history of the nfl. Were they more talented than the 2020 GB team...yes. Idk who i would put as a "super team". I dont really use that term but maybe u can say that for the 2007 Patriots team or something like that.
Rodgers is a a stat padder and choker and nothing more. Sure he looked good stat padding against the bears, lions, and Vikings for 15 years (so did 28 other teams) but the guy can’t perform and win when it actually matters and his one and only NFCCG win was against a back up where he got bailed out his defense. Goats don’t have only one ring and go 14 years without even making a SB appearance lmao.
You just want click bait and you got it
Hell no. I don’t even like rodgers I like Peyton manning way more. This is my opinion and if you don’t like I don’t care. I have stats to back It up to
Mahomes and Rodgers arent in the debate it’s manning montana and brady
mahomes is in in the debate yes it is to soon to say he is the goat but he has had the best 6 season by a qb in nfl history in anyones time period and its his first 6 he is still in his 20s and has won 2 mvps and 3 superbowls. you have to respect that. but Rodgers stats are way better then joes. hes not even top 20 in passing yards all time but yes he is still top 5 because how clutch he was in the playoffs but goat hell no not even close. i mean for starters mahomes already has over half his passing yards and hes only played 6 seasons and thats with out jerry rice may i add. joe played 192 games here is his 192 all game stats to Rodgers fist 192. joe has 40551 passing yards Rodgers has 10000 more with 51245 passing yards joe has 273 tds Rodgers has double that with 412 joe has 139 ints Rodgers has 50 less more with 89 joe has 1676 rushing yards Rodgers has 3271. stats are not even close so next time bring facts or i will bring them for you.
@@the_SportVille I didn’t read any of that
@@extellenredrapfan ok if you don't want to defend your argument don't
start it
@@cobrakaikarateYT Mahomes been carried by god squads his whole career, infact over 50% of his stats are caused by either Hill or Kelce, also you put the smartest coach oat behind the calls also helps a lot. He’s get more media attention for cool sidearms and no looks but that doesn’t affect the score
@@extellenredrapfan he won two superbowls without hill and kelce did not even have 1000 yards this season he carries his team. did joe not have jerry rice did brady not have gronk.
The Goat of what? If it's not Tom Brady it better be Patrick Mahomes, it damn sure ain't Aaron Rodgers that played 2 mins for the jets.
tell me you did not watch did video without telling me you did not watch did video
So what? The only thing Rodgers is the GOAT in is his unmatched ability to choke in the conference championships (1-4). 1 -- ONE -- SB win in 18 years does not make the GOAT. You have to be a Packer fan to even try to push this joke.
As I said Brady choked in champions and playoffs almost just as bad. The difference is he had way better team a better coach, and it got them to the next level
He’s not, and only in the top 5 in one category all time TDs, and he’s choked in the playoffs except for the one year he won a SB, and that had a lot to do with the defense too, Brady is the GOAT for one a few reasons right now, and I hate Brady, he and Belichek cheated, but that’s ancient history now. Brady has the most, yards, TDs, attempts, completions, regular season wins, playoff wins, and SBs. Rodgers could have done somthing similar, but he went for the huge contracts while Brady didn’t and it might have cost him several more SBs, I also didn’t watch the video, there’s no need, oh, and one more thing, Rodgers is about 20th in winning drives, guess who’s #1? lol, and you can say, “they were always winning,” but they weren’t going deep in playoff games to make multiple SBs. Rodgers also has an 80% failure rate in NFC championship games, unless your an optimist, then he has a 20% win rate in the NFC championship games(1-4), lol
This is ridiculous.
how so
@@the_SportVille Because a lot of your arguments lack nuance.
One that stuck out most to me is the sack numbers you brought up. Tom Brady takes a lot less sacks because he's a guy who gets rid of the ball before taking a sack. The only times Tom takes sacks is when the defense blows up the play.
Rodgers is a pretty mobile QB. He holds onto the ball to try and extend plays to make something happen. QBs who play like that naturally take more sacks.
The weapons argument lacked nuance as well. For a large stretch of Tom's career, he was a guy who did more with less. He did not have elite talent on offense.
In the second half, he had Moss for a year and a half. Moss was traded in the middle of his 3rd year on the team. He played one full season with Brady. Welker was good, but he dropped a TON of open passes. Often at the worst times. Amendola was actually better.
Gronk is the goat, sure. But Roger's and Brady have had comparable talent on offense. Rodgers usually had better talent at halfback, too. A balanced offense makes it easier to pass if opposing defenses have to respect the run.
Rogers is a beast. But you did a lot of P hacking with the numbers to support the conclusion you wanted.
There's more, but this comment is long enough.
@@the_SportVille The most ridiculous argument you made for all of Brady's weapons was Antonio Brown. He was in NE for one year and didn't start a single game. Sure, he was on the roster, but he BARELY played ANY snaps the entire year.
@@matthewsmith1779 ok let me response to the first part. first off you are wrong Rodgers is more mobile and does not hold on to the ball to long that's why he has way more rushing yards he is faster and his 14 seasons as a starter fumbled 88 times and bradys is 95. and the reason he got sacked more is becuse he had a way better ol. like how aaron in his career only had 6 pro bowl line men in Elgton Jenkins David Bakhtiari T.J. Lang Josh Sitton Chad Clifton Mark Tauscher, and bradys 14 starting seasons had 10. so you can stop with that silly not true argument.
@@matthewsmith1779 and say its less or not you can not argue it the slightest that he had better wrs or TES then brady and i am glad you broght up the ab. he played 16 games with brady in 2019 2020 and 2021. and that 16 games adds up to about 1 season. and this is his stats in those games 1084 and 9 tds. now yes he was past his prime and i never made it out to be he was still in his prime but lets not act like he was some bum now