'Full Fat' Processing Tutorial in PixInsight - Broadband Nebula Workflow
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the amount of techniques I have learned from your videos is immense, thanks for taking the time to show us how to get the best out of Pixinsight. Have a great Christmas
That's very kind of you to say mate, thank you!!
Merry Christmas and a happy New year to you too :-)
Hi Luke I just got the extensions for pixinsight i used your links mate i am going to process today thanks for the help with processing images i have been out of astronomy for 25 years due to an accident I can't believe how much things have changed now I'm relearning everything your videos are a great help i now got my passion back thanks to you i hope you have a great new year mate i can't thank you enough. Sean
Hey Sean! Ah mate that message made me smile to read, thank you so much for taking the time to share!! :-D
Hoping you have great fun with all this my friend, thank you for your support!
Happy new year to you and yours 🙏
@@lukomatico I followed your Rossetta video i messed up first time but after resetting i got a great result i printed it out on A4 photo paper thanks for the data it is helping me with learning pixinsight i am nearly finished building a new rig I've got to get a auto focuser and some decent filters then have fun collimating ahhhh (shit cardiff weather) as i have upgraded and rebuilt my new telescope.
Keep up all the great work on your CZcams channel mate you should be proud of what you have achieved thanks again. Sean
Ps. New video for you to make: Seestar has been updated i won't tell you what they have done but i think you will like it.
I use my one to teach my 6 year old granddaughter Poppy astrometry and astrophotography she has claimed it for herself now i have a new rig. Yes i am an old git
This is so funny Luke as I was about to send you off a message, telling you I was going to try PI and do have any or can do a video of your workflow with a OSC and PI! Look at this Thank You!! Great Video
Brilliant haha :-D thank you mate, and merry Christmas!!
@@lukomatico Merry Christmas
Seriously Luke, you are the best - not only your vids that cover latest/greatest script or trick, but the ones that go into just how it all works - the step-by-step process, workflows, logic, options . Thanks for all you have given us!
You're too kind my friend!! :-D thank you ever so much!!
Thanks, Luke! Another evening spent with benefit and fun!
My pleasure! 👍👍
Great tutorial Luke mate thanks for sharing your workflow
My pleasure Tony mate! - Thanks ever so much and sorry about the late reply :-)
Merry Christmas Luke, thanks for sharing that with us, and I am looking forward to doing some processing on the image. By the way the hairs looking good. Well done 👏
Thanks so much Neil my friend! :-) Hope you had a lovely Christmas and new year, here's to a good 2024! - p.s: sorry about the late reply, some comments straight up went missing for 11 days it seems!
Thanks Luke! This was a great entry into PI!
Thank you ever so much Claire! That's tremendously kind of you :-)
All the best and clear skies!!
Thank you so much Luke! I started using Pixinsight a few weeks ago and was overwhelmed by the interface and all the options. Your tutorials really guided me toward an efficient workflow :)
You are so welcome! That's wonderful to hear :-)
👏👏. Once again Luke you kind of nailed it. A well paced, highly instructional presentation. I always look forward to your output...seasons greetings, Happy and clear 2024 .🫡
Thank you so very much my friend!! Happy holidays and wishing you a lovely new year too :-) sorry about the late reply! This comment went missing along with some others it seems!
Great Tutorial, great hair cut, and by the way "hell of a name"🤣. Thanks for sharing Luke!!
Haha! 😂 Thanks so much mate!! 😃
Just brilliant Luke as always. You have imparted so much knowledge and help through the year , you probably don’t realise. Happy New Year and more strength to your elbow in ‘24. Thank you.
I'm chuffed to hear you think so highly of me, Pete!! Thank you ever so much my friend, truly 🙏
All the very best to you and yours for the new year!!!
Outstanding! Thanks for the help, this really changed my workflow.
Great to hear that!! Thank you so much 👍👍
So useful, thanks for bringing awesome content for free to the masses! 😊
My pleasure, thanks so much my friend! :-)
What a guy! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and help to get the best of our images. Hands down image processing is the hardest thing.
Happy holidays!
My pleasure! Thanks so much for the lovely comment mate and my apologies about the late reply, - some comments went AWOL! Hope you had a lovely Christmas and new year :-)
As usual, par-excellence !!
I always pick up new tricks, tips and processing nuances from your brilliant tutorial. And just love your presentation style and dry British humour!
I look forward to the future tutorials.
Wishing you a wonderful festive season and sure your mop of hair will soon grow back 😊!
Warmest regards mate!!
Thank you so much mate! :-D that's awesome to hear!
Hope you have a wonderful festive season and a tremendous new year too my friend! 👍👍
Thanks for the early Christmas present Luke! Very useful, especially the section on GHS. I always learn something new from you! Have a great Christmas and a happy, healthy new year buddy! Dr B from Manitoba, Canada 🇨🇦
Hey Brian! So sorry about the late reply, it seems some comments are going missing!!
Hope you've had a lovely Christmas and New year my friend 🙏
Hey Luke, this is just what we need mate, a detailed demonstration of the fantastic tools within Pixinsight! A great series to come I’m sure! Excellent job mate, thanks for sharing this information, I’m still learning from you Luke👍 Keep them coming mate! Great hair do by the way😀 Happy Christmas to you, Chloe & family! CS
Thank you so much Simon mate!! :-D Hope you had a lovely Christmas and new year! sorry about the late reply to this, it seems a lot of comments went missing for me and randomly showed up today!
Awesome upgraded tutorial Luke
Thanks so much Craig!! :-) clear skies my friend 👍👍
Great tutorial as always. Peaceful holidays and a great 2024 from Slovenia
Happy holidays and an amazing new year to you too my friend, so sorry about the late reply - this comment went missing for a while it seems! 👍👍
Just so great to follow this workflow. Thanx my friend!
Thank you so much my friend!! :-D that's really lovely feedback to hear 👍
Luke, thanks again for sharing the flow process, I learned a lot on this session, I’m so thankful with you sharing techniques, Merry Christmas! Thanks
Glad it was helpful my friend! :-) Hope you had a wonderful Christmas and new year!! :-D
Hey Luke, great tutorial, I really enjoyed that and learned a lot, cheers buddy.
Glad you enjoyed it my friend!! Thank you so much :-D
Brilliant! Thank you! New to PI and looking for tools, ideas, and tutorials. Your download package was god send just setting up the tools to hand. I can't believe the Dumbbell I've just made using your steps! :)
That's absolutely tremendous to hear Claire, so glad you're off to a flying start with PI!!
Clear skies to you mate 👍
Great OSC workflow Luke 👏🔭🌌👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Nicely done - you do a nice job showing how to do some more fine tuning in Pixinsight where I just usually head to Photoshop but being not everyone has or wants to learn another software, this will help out folks wanting to stay inside one program!
Thanks so much mate!! :-D Hope you've had a lovely christmas and new year! :-)
Nice video Luke! Wishing you merry Christmas and A Great new year ahead :)
Merry Christmas and happy new year to you too my friend!! So sorry about the late reply, the comment went missing for a while!!
Hi Luke. Always learning from your videos. Thanks for the excellent tips and techniques. Your videos are assets to the new astrophotographers like me.
That's so kind of you to say mate, thank you! 👍👍
Another excellent tutorial, mate! Learning image processing is a never-ending task...I seem to pickup some useful nugget of info or a tip with every video I watch, and this one is no different! Now I have something I want to go back and tweak with my Heart & Soul image......cheers!
Thank you so much mate, that's lovely to hear!! :-D Hope you had a lovely Christmas and new year btw! :-)
Hey Luke! Where I live I could only dream of capturing nebulosity like that without a narrowband filter! Once again, enjoyed your tutorial and GHS is a hard animal to tame but you whispered it into creating a masterpiece for you! Happy holidays mate!
Thank you so much Dave mate!! - my apologies about the late reply to this, it seems quite a lot of comments went missing!!
Wow i dont know if you have had any formal training Luke but once again you have managed to communicate something complex by distilling it down to the basics. Its genius it really is, not only that but also suggesting we can have fun whilst learning takes the anxiety out of it. I'd actually abandoned ghs but now I feel i understand it. Thanks i really appreciate it
Ah Ken mate that's just tremendous to hear!! Thank you ever so much for your kind message, happy to have helped!
Clear skies! 👍👍
As usual, Luke, great tutorial video. I always learn new techniques after watching these types of videos. I need to practice more with GHS. Baby steps here, but forward steps, nonetheless.
Thanks so much Pat my friend! Hope you've had a wonderful Christmas this year :-)
Nicely done Luke, it's always great to see how other people process their images as everyone's taste is different which results in some very unique interpretations of the same target. I have just switched to using GraXpert and am very happy with it as I feel it results is a much better colour balance compared to ABE or DBE. I have now reprocessed two of my images (M13 and M101) and feel they look so much better now compared to my previous efforts.
Excellent to hear that mate!! I definitely think it's lightyears ahead of abe/DBE, 100% agree 👍
Hope you had a lovely Christmas mate!!
Thanks. Great video. More appreciated !
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Wow, thank you so much for the support my friend!! :-) Clear skies to you!
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Great demo.👋
great tutorial mate still need to sort out a better pc before pulling the trigger but these tools are excellent, hope you all have a merry Christmas & clear skies in the new year (we can hope) All the best mate
Merry Christmas and a happy new year to you too buddy, so sorry about the late reply - no idea where this comment went till now!! 😅
Good! I see your hair is growing, and I approve of it 😊. I like your workflows, simple and well explained. Merry Christmas, Luke 🎅 🎄
Thank you ever so much Diana, merry Christmas to you and your family too, I hope you've all had a wonderful day :-) ❤️
(I'm on the fence about my hair, haha - I'd love to grow it again but the middle phase is a nightmare! 😂)
@lukomatico Thanks Luke! You're doing good. We had a very warm Christmas. 66 degrees but very cloudy. Unfortunately, I was very sick for the last couple of days, recovering now, but always enjoy your videos.
Hope you're fully recovered soon Diana! Look after yourself 🙏 thank you for the lovely message!
Really nice walk-through Luke! While I don’t use any of these tools other than Graxpert, I’m taking away loads of ideas that I can use in my own toolset. Thanks mate!
Thanks so much for watching mate!! :-D I appreciate your time!
@@lukomatico watch time is where it’s at! Gotta help out the community however we can! 😉
Awesome video. Thanks so much!
My pleasure!
Very helpful video, Luke! I've been struggling to get decent results from GHS, but your run-through here was really clear and simple, and already has helped me improve. Thank you! I'd also like to put in a plug for Bill Blanshan's and Mike Cranfield's free Star Reduction script for PixInsight, which is terrific. Clear skies, Matt
Merry Christmas Matt!! Clear skies my friend :-D
This is awesome! My player one Artemis c pro is getting here on the 28th, (purchased after seeing your video about it)
Hopefully I'll have a dataset ready to process not long after!!
Awesome mate!!! Hope you have a superb time with it :-D happy Christmas!
@@lukomatico you too mate! Cs
Luke, you remain the uncontested champion of tutorials. No one does it better! No matter how far I progress with this hobby, one thing I’m certain, and that’s that I can’t afford to miss one of your tutorials. Like so many others, let me add my voice and express my gratitude for your hard work and dedication. Quick question, how might you compare Graxpert with APP’s LP tool? Wishing you and yours a joyous Christmas and not a cloud in your sky for 2024.
You're too kind Joe, as always!! :-)
I think graXpert is a better method of LP/gradient removal than APP's tool in my opinion 👍 hope that helps!
Merry Christmas to you mate!
Thanks! I went from Siril to Pix using your videos, icons and ressources h it made a very easy learning curve :)
2 things I do that you light try is when using GHS is to play with Highlights slider to bring up faint details without burning the whites. The other thing is that I still do the star reintegration process with Siril that has a recomposition tool to use GHS while on stars while seeing the effect on the finale image. So muuuch convenient and precise :)
Awesome to hear that my friend, thank you so much for the quality feedback! Clear skies to you :-D
HI Luke. You are a champ and thanks for the opportunity to process your data . South East Queensland has been a wash with no short time easing so this is soooo good!. Apologies if you have share the info regarding your equipment and date /subframes etc. Please point or share as your data looks better than top picks in Astrobin and I would love to share a collaboration. Thanks again. I had fun processing!.
Thanks so much mate!! I'm really glad to hear you enjoyed this :-)
RE: the data, it was taken with a RASA11, Player One Poseidon-C Pro and no filters. total integration was about 7 hours IIRC!
Clear skies mate!
Just wanted to say I had an absolute blast following along with your excellent PI tutorial. So much fun!! Also, it was a big treat to process your beautifully captured data. Was a filter used or perhaps it was unfiltered? Thanks so much -- looking forward to more!! P.S. I liked the SPCC results on my version (nudge-nudge, wink-wink) 😉
Thanks for the great feedback mate and I'm glad to hear SPCC was worthwhile, nice!! I'll have to try with it 👍
It was shot unfiltered, well - just UV/ir cut!
Cheers!
What an amazing person you are, been following you for a while and notice all the human values you still conserve in this troubled world. Thank you so much for all your kindness. I haven’t got the chance to pay for PixInsight license yet, still paying for my rig. Is it possible you do the same tutorial with Siril. Thanks again and have a very merry Christmas.
Aw wow mate, thank you ever so much for that lovely message - you've lifted my day! 👍👍
I hope to try and do some siril tutorials again one day but I currently feel my skills and familiarity with that program have likely slipped to the point I'll no longer be an effective demonstrator! 😅
Wishing you and yours a very merry Christmas and the happiest new year!!
All the best,
Luke
Nice work through, Luke. This is roughly my workflow. I tend to use a bit more local intensity adjustments in GHS as well as picking my area of interest by clicking on that part of the image. I've never tried to adjust the black point more than once nor have I used dark structure enhance. For me, though, the first thing I do, either before or after using GraXpert, is to use SPCC. And, finally, what happened to your hair!
… and from watching Adam Block and Russel Croman, I now know to run BXT at correct only before SPCC.
Thanks for the great feedback Jack!! :-D I'm glad you've got your workflow perfected, nice one 👍👍
Re: the correct only stage: I believe with bxt 2.0 that might be disabled now?
On the note of my hair, you may have missed it but I cut it all off in a previous video to raise money for charity :-)
Merry Christmas to you my friend 👍
Luke, checked BXT with AI4. Correct only is operative and, per Russel’s documentation, is advised prior to SPCC. Merry Xmas!! For you, 30 min to Xmas eve.
Your tutorials are SOOO helpful - I loved your GHS one - no one else does the black point and it's so easy to just trust your eyes. This one was great too. My only question is, do you have a video in which you explain the star screening (how to combine them?) a bit more? I usually use pixel math but I downloaded the two new star tools but I'm confused on how step by step to use them. Thanks!
Thank you so much for the great feedback my friend!! Glad you've found it useful 👍👍
Re: screening, if you downloaded my 'drag and drop' tools they should work as shown as long as you unscreened the stars during removal - it's always better to perform re-screening rather than plain addition which over brightens.
Hope that helps! Good luck
Excellent! Looking forward to more! Quick question about your initial crop. Since I use WBBP & auto-crop, shouldn’t that take care of the edges (& not lose the plate solving)?
Sorry about the late reply to this mate! - you're right, that should be 100% fine to skip that step :-)
Nice. Didn't work on my data (2hr of Rossette Nebula using OSC camera). My image falls apart when i start using GHS. I think i will start over all the way from WBPP and see if i get somewhere. Thanks for the tutorials.
Hello Luke. Nice tutorial again. Please do not stop doing these videos.
One question my friend. I saw in your OSC galaxy PI tutorial that before you used GradientCorrection you made use of SPCC, and here you performed Graxpert directly without SPCC. That means that if I use Graxpert instead of GradientCorrection I don't need to perform before an SPCC?
Thanks my friend!! Good question and well noticed! I think it's just an inconsistency in my workflow, - ideally you can perform gradient correction before doing SPCC, but I've done it both ways around and there's not a big difference, so I'd say don't worry about it much! 👍👍
Clear skies!
Great video Luke as always ! Even though I've been using pixinsight for a couple of years now there's always something to learn. Your method of GHS stretching of stars seems a much more structured method to mine so will definitely try that mate. I think the only other thing I use is colour calibration( SPCC) early in the workflow ? Would you say there's little benefit of SPCC ? Anyway mate wishing you and all your family a very Happy Christmas 🎄
Hey Paul! So sorry about the late reply to this, some comments have been going missing unfortunately, then reappearing at random! 😅
Hope you've had a lovely Christmas and new year's mate!! 🙏
Re: SPCC, I've personally stopped using it mate!
Thanks!
Thank you ever so much my friend!!!
Hi Luke great tutorial. If possible can you show us how to annotate the image within PI with names of Neb and stars?
Great video as usual Luke…👏🏻 just an FYI you said you used BlurX at defaults, but you used 0.25 on the star sharpen setting, on the new AI4 version 0.5 is the default for that version…I myself have to reduce to 0.25 too…👍🏻
Good catch mate!! - you're quite right, I've reset my tool and remade the icon, thank you! :-)
Great workflow my friend!!! I was looking at this integration Graxpert, if you apply it from the standalone app you can see that smooth as 0 tends to remove details from the nebula itself I run It through some images myself. When you click on an extracted background check for some “not background patterns” from now on I always play Graxpert from the app using very high smooth. Ps.: Heilung is back on track hahahaha clear skies 🔭
Thanks so much for the advice my friend! :-D Glad to hear you've got a fine-tuned workflow going on, that's awesome!
RE: Heilung, it shouldn't drop again haha!! - I've tucked it into the picture frame now :-D
Clear skies and happy new year!
@@lukomatico happy new year too!!!
this is going to be so helpful when i do get pixinsight, thank you very much luke! unfortunately that’ll have to wait a bit, instead of a computer i’m putting my pennies towards a trip next year to see my first total solar eclipse :) have you ever gotten to see one?
Thank you mate!! - I did get to see a total eclipse as a 10 year old child, back in 1999! :-D I've seen a few partials too, but it would be cool to one day see a total eclipse as an adult!
@@lukomatico ‘99, i wasn’t even born yet! definitely have to see one as an adult apparently, I always hear about how formative of a life experience it is lol
Fab Tutorial. Wondering what you think about a Modified Arcsinh stretch on the stars, seen that elsewhere, to push their colours a little. (I normally do this in Siril, so not sure if it works the same in PixInsight).
Hey mate! So sorry about the late reply, I've personally just been sticking to GHS for all my stretches, maybe arcsinh would be worth a go though!
Thanks for the suggestion 👍👍
What a great tutorial! As usual, I have picked up on a couple of new tricks! I have a question..... I have been using pixel math to put my stars and starless images back together. Where did stars/starless for rescreening come from? Dale in Idaho
Thanks so much Dale!! So glad you've found it useful my friend! :-)
Re: the drag&drop re-screening tools, I made them this last summer 👍
Merry Christmas to you!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well!@@lukomatico
hello luke can i use this image for my next CZcams video?
Sure mate! Good luck 👍
@@lukomatico i will Wright in the description the picture by lukomatico 🤩 , my 40k
@@lukomatico thanks from Saudia Arabia land of the stars, name The BST
Your booming Scottish accent just destroyed my laptop speaker... where do I send the bill? ps Thanks for the OSC tutorials!
Thank you for watching and sorry about the speakers, haha!! 😅 Clear skies!
Happy Holidays, Luke.... You really have excellent computer skills. As a staff newspaper/magazine photographer for over three decades, I'm fairly proficient with Photoshop (...CS6). But, PS sharpening seems pretty crude compared to these new plug-ins. It appears that they will work OK with PS, so I'm going to give them a try. I'm currently using a laptop running an i7 1355u, Iris Xe graphics, 16GB ram and a 2K screen....not really a high- performance graphics machine, but perhaps it will be workable.
I'm curious about what computer gear you're using with this state of the art software? Thanks for your thoughts, Michael
Hey there Michael! So sorry about the late reply to this my friend, hope you've had a wonderful Christmas and new year's :-)
Re: my computer, I'm using 32gb ddr4 ram, rtx4070ti GPU, AMD Ryzen 9 5900x CPU 👍
Exactly the video I'm looking for! I've been using NINA for a while and feel very comfortable using it. I've use APP to stack and have some great images out of it but am now jumping into post processing with PI. On my own image, I follow along great until I get to stretching my nebulosity. My histogram curve is so far to the let, I can barely see it. When I magnify it gets blocky looking. DO you know what would cause that? BTW, RASA 8 user here! Again, great video and thanks for any suggestions you or anyone else can supply.
Hey mate! It sounds like if your histogram is crammed to the left then you're needing to stretch it, - try histogram transformation and drag the mid slider, see how it alters the data :-)
Good luck!
Hello again
How everyone has had better skies than me
It's been a rough one hasn't it mate, this is old data I took during summer with my rasa 11!
Hey! Can you post a tutorial on processing nebulas from the SeeStar? I like your method but I don't think all of this applies. Also, a tutorial on mosaics from the SeeStar?
Hey there!
I'll hopefully get back around to that kind of content soon, I've just got a lot of gear here that needs reviewing first 👍
Clear skies to you!
Thanks, Luke. Do you feel there is a need to include SCC in the process?
Hey mate! :-) I've stopped using SCC/SPCC these days, maybe it needs investigating more!
All the best!
@@lukomatico Many thanks, Luke.
Assume you started with a stacked processed image, what software did you use before pixinsight
It was stacked in APP :-) good point!
Thanks very much for your videos. Are the links for down load still available?
Thank you so much!! And re: links, they should be mate! Are they not working for you?
@@lukomatico Thanks 0 they worked fine today. Thanks again for some awesome content. I will be finding the time to watch it all. Currently trying to working out OSC processing. Cheers from NZ
Cheers my friend!! Enjoy 👍👍
Thanks for a great set of videos! I just bought and installed PI. When I download, select and drag your process icons, they are not installing. The Arrange Icons is grayed out. Am I missing something? Thank you in Advance.
Hey there! Congratulations on your purchase 👍👍
Re: the icons, I believe they now need to be saved on your C:/ drive directly, inside the users subfolder IIRC, - this is a very recent change with Pixinsight I believe,
Hope that helps, good luck my friend!
@@lukomatico Much appreciate the fast reply. I will try that option thank you!
@@lukomatico I'm having trouble locating that folder.
I have never been able to get graxpert to run on my pc i just get a freeze and 'Not responding' error.
It may be worth checking again with the latest updates mate! :-) Good luck!!
PI has suddenly started importing my OSC images as grey (ie not debayered) any ideas why?
I'm at a loss mate, sorry!! I don't know what's going on there
Luke are you playing any pc games?
Hey mate! I'm currently playing a bit of WoW and 'Death Must Die' at the moment! I'd like to re-play some of my favourites soon though 🙏
@@lukomatico I thought you were playing FPS games because of the lightweight gaming mouse in your videos! Death Must Die is awesome, though.
Gonna get expensive!
True mate, haha! Merry Christmas 👍