The Audi Allroad Was The Most Unreliable Car Ever Made, But May Not Be For Much Longer
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Way to heart your own comment...
There is a black BMW on your stack. You never told us about it 🤔🤨
Stop buying new cars! Its far more economical to keep an old one (unless its German or built in Germany) older than 15yrs and learn to repair it.
Hoovies Garage Tyler Hoover... the type of guy to like his own comment. I love your channel, but Cars and Bids... not so much.
Hope you get all the money! Show my new channel some love, you'll love it!
This Allroad looks like it's already seen all of the roads.
Yeah, that plastic is really low grade for a car that was so expensive when new.
Haha
I live in the UK. I had the upgraded 2.0l 170bhp turbo diesel s-line estate (station wagon). The trim and general condition of the car was amazing and I loved the way it looked. The turbo however failed after 110k miles and the quote to take it out and replace it with a refurbished unit was crazy expensive as the labour cost to take it out was insane. They clearly didn’t care about the long term life of the car and the turbo they put in it just wasn’t up to holding the extra power over the standard 140bhp edition. Never again.
It has seen it all and now just wants to rest.
Psych0technic Audi AllRest
Any kind of Audi repair:
Step 1. Remove front of the car.
Assume the service position
so annoying -.-
@@elitesniper923 That's what she said?
Step one is call salvage lot to pick up with a boom tow truck. Dont want to get oil on a flatbed.
It's nice having the space once you do it though. I was surprised how easy it was to do to my B6 A4 and after fussing about having to do it I was super grateful for the extra space. The mechanic who did it previous me pulled too hard on it and cracked the seal on the condenser for the a/c which just needed a new o-ring and I changed out the receiver dryer to find out my a/c still works perfectly a decade and a half later.
The wires dragging are a feature, it means they are well grounded ;)
Did you ever have the craze of fitting a thick rubber strip with a lightning bolt on them to 'ground' your car? They were very popular in the UK during the '70s, 'to prevent static build up'.
@@terencejay8845 lol for real?
@@jordanmercier3616 You can still buy them if you look around, but I didn't see one with the lightning bolt yet. They were so popular in the UK in the '70s the motoring industry issued releases saying they didn't work.
@@jonr3332 Maybe Hoovie could go back in time and make Audi build the car better :P
@@terencejay8845 I think i've seen what you're talking about, rubber strip attached at the rear end of the car that drags along the ground? I've always wondered what they were about. I'm in Australia by the way.
It's funny hearing about reliability from a dude who sold his landcruiser
Ah, a fan of Mr Kilmer, disappointing.
If he buys reliable cars his channel will not have a purpose
Andy a ppfftt🤭
Thomas M N what disappointing, I know the point of this channel is, but if you want information about what’s reliable and whats not, scottys a good source. I don’t like that he clickbaits a lot, but other then that I think he’s a good source. Yes I know he loves Toyota, but if you watch many of his videos you’ll se he also like a lot of fords, and he’ll even answer your questions you can ask him!
@@NewYorker613 And he loves toyota for a reason, if you look anywhere else, toyota is pretty much on top in terms of reliability.
210k miles on my twin turbo 2.7, 6sp manual, air suspension allroad. Loving it!
You are a dyi-er?
Georgi Georgiev lol if he wasn’t, that thing would not be alive. Same goes for my 21 year old bmw though😂
Same here i have 2 actually going stage 3+ in a couple of days only thing id say is a real issue is the torque converter in the autos but i swapped to 6 speed and have no complaints.
@@kylekosman2294 you won't regret bigger turbos, been daily driving a k04 03 6 speed for a few years and love it!
E46 M52 probleme mit der hinterachse gehabt?
Anyone else completely shocked almost to the point of fainting that Tyler didn't buy this at the end of the video?
because the engine service and parts cost less then his broken BMWs usually. For someone who knows what they are doing a timing belt and upper engine re-seal on jack stands without a lift can be done in 8 hours or less.
Even he knows his limits!
I was about to post that! That looked like the perfect car for him!
Kris Nicholson really I don’t have a lift, I’ve built several 2.7t engines, can do timing belts and head reseals with my eyes closed almost. You don’t need a lift to do the job while it is nice to have it is not required. Knowledge and the correct tools and it is easy.
@@Tjockisen right up his alley. 1. Terrible car 2. Basically mechanically totalled. Tyler ," TAKE ME MONEY NOW!!"
Had one of these in new Zealand for 3 years. Best car I've had in ages. With the front brakes from the V8 model and bigger antiroll bars, it drove great. Had sunroof, Bose, recaro and sport steering wheel. All worked as well as the suspension. The issues with the suspension are so easy to sort to.... Completely blew me away off road and I took it everywhere. Race down through mountain roads and then hike up the suspension for going off-road to Hart to reach scenic places for a lunch and even slept in it while out high up in the hills. Well insulated and super quiet. With regular maintenance, I would buy it again, even today.
I bought one for $400! Used 125 k miles!
Sitting for 6 years.
Very smooth ride and comfortable.
But the suspension is air shocks don't operate.
I think I have to buy the whole computer for it
with the same engine? 2.7t?
@@riccardocastiglioni4311 yean mine was a 2.7t. 😁
@@victorchirilas9005 thanks 😊
@@melissakarlsen1706I got a 4.2 ALLROAD for free
I have owned four of these cars, and four because I moved continents several times and had to let them go. They are a delight, solid. One needed the suspension changed. But, my experience is that inexperienced mechanics can cause major problems, which are then resolved when the cars return to experienced trained repair folk. My worst car was a Jeep.
Hoovie: so today I bought this 2003 Audi Allroad-
Doug DeMuro: (Angry chimpanzee Noises intensify)
Next day:
Hoovie: Today I'm here with this very broken Land Rover Defender belonging to Doug Demuro. He is in the hospital though as he crashed into my house trying to kill the Audi in my garage. We're going to take it to the Wizard's now and see what he thinks we can do for Doug.
And deep nose breathing!
lol im dying🤣🤣
Hi. I have had now three of these and many basic A6 quattros. ITS a matter of a DIY or not. Its economically impossible to service these in VAG service. I do all my self and feel really comfortable driving them. I have had all engines now and 2.7Bit + manual 6 speed is the best solution. 😂
Doug has to go to the wizards because his Google fu sucks
Hoovie: "This car is terrible, you should never own one of these."
Hoovie talking himself into buying.
ha haa good one.
2.7 is an absolute iconic engine. I have a 2000 Stage 3+ S4, one of the fastest cars I have ever driven. An absolute rocket ship!
I have an 02 allroad that's driving Great, just do your maintenance on it like any car and you will be find not to mention they are very cool and versatile.
I remember when a Yellow Land Rover Defender was parked on top of one of these.
I also remeber it with a kia next to it ;)
Only og Doug fans would know😂
I bRoKe ThE sTeErInG wHeEl
Two unreliable crap boxes decided to get busy
Nice TVR Tuscun
“Is this the most unreliable car ever?”
*2007 BMW M5 has entered the chat*
Maserati Quattroporte
Hold my beer
@Vibe amc straight 6 is one of the most reliable engines ever made
Nah. A manual V10 M5 only has one fatal flaw- once it's fixed, its fine. This Audi has several fatal flaws.
Trevor Philips i didn’t put much thought into my comment but after thinking about it for a minute I realized I could come up with like 5 cars that he’s owned that we’re more unreliable haha
Oldsmobile 350 Diesel: Hold my Fuel Injector
"The Audi Allroad WAS the most unreliable car ever made, but I've since bought multiple BMWs that were far worse" - Hoovie.
My mom has one of these. It was fast, comfortable,an animal through midwestern snowstorms and very reliable. Today it lives at their winter home in Arizona where it’s still delivering perfectly reliable service. Every mechanic that has serviced it has offered to buy it, the 2.7 allroads have a cult following for a reason.
I'd your mom Marge?
I don’t know what engine options did you had in the US but back in Europe we had 1.9tdi and 2.5tdi wich were bulletproof. There are still a lot of them on the roads.
Exactly... US and EU audis seems to be a diffetent cars since EU audis are doing pretty well with reliability if well looked after.
2.7 L twin turbo was the only engine offered in the United States .
Welp, we have a knack for having uninteresting engines, which usually correlate to reliability at least. I will say though, the 2.5tdi V6 is AWFUL at everything, even if the 1.9 is probably the best diesel engine ever made
The 2.5 TDi was not all that reliable.
2.7tdi is also bulletproof
Hoovie: this is a terrible car
Hoovie a couple days later: So I bought this new audi allroad
He's pure clickbait garbage, has no idea about cars, talks like a 12 year old, and can't even dress up properly for his videos.
Taipei Geek Then Unsubscribe.
Doug DeMuro: *Kia Spectra and you?! You both going down!*
@@TaipeiGeek and that is why he has 230,000 views, and over 1 milion subscribers. and you have, well NONE
Paul Schless absolutely agree with you, and you prove my point. This is how Google works. Shit floats on water, as they say.
I love how mechanically inclined Tyler has become over the years. I feel like a proud dad.
Me pre Hoovie: "BMW is a very reliable brand"
Me post Hoovie: "You can't pay me to own a BMW." I'd say you're making a difference.
For real! After Scotty Kilmer and Hoovie, I promised myself I'd never do a BMW though the looks of those wagons are oh so sweet! And I'm a wagon guy!
I feel like a diesel 3 series wagon might not be too bad but maybe I'm wrong
That’s not entirely true. It really depends on who owned the car before you did lol.
@@PR0XIDIAN it is horrible, 6,5k € in parts in 2 years and it still wasnt fixed
It's on the internet, so it must be true...
I was expecting him to end it with "I don't think it's that bad, that's why I bought it" :D
i was hoping he would take it to wizzard
@@moscowhq9978 Well, that would always bring a good reaction
Oh weezardd
"Hey the green leather seats and the dashboard are actually quite and its not overdone" -> Shot of the A-Pillars: "Oh No!"
THIS IS HEINOUS!!!
When I saw the A pillars, I screamed. WHY.
My 2003 is coming up to 260,000 KMS and it's turning it to be one of the best cars I've ever owned. Love driving the AWD in the winter months. 👍😎
“The most unreliable car is probably...one being built right now.” 🤔 You’re probably correct.
What’s he referring to?
@@Prican777 how most brands today have cars loaded with tech and powered by small turbo charged engines.
@@Prican777 Most cars are built to survive a lease term and some barely do that. LED DRL/Signature lights for small minor inconvenience example shouldn't die in the 1st 3 years and cost $800+ per headlight in parts to fix.
Hoovie: "Maybe this Audi Allroad isn't all that bad..."
Doug DeMuro: "Hoovie needs an intervention" - fires up the Land Rover Defender for a road trip.
lol
(But does he make it there????)
"ruf" - Hoovie literally every video
Subaru was and still crushing it
Rüüüf
Saying ROOOOOOF sounds weird to me.
He should buy a RUF
Ok Hoovie do you say "spuf" when saying the word spoof?
I bought a 2003 2.7tt in Australia in 2009 as a respectable and fast family wagon. I don't regret it at all, because, like all cars, you tend to have good and bad ones, and ones that are well looked after and ones that are flogged. I had it for nearly 10 years.
It bashed bush tracks, ate snow, crushed miles, was a wedding car and brought my newborns home from hospital - all with elegance and unfaltering competence and style.
And now have 2018 3.0 diesel A6 allroad I bought new in 2018. Brilliant cars.
I've got a 2001 Allroad with about 140k miles on it, original turbos, air springs, everything. Never replaced anything but liquids, filters, and brakes. I don't know how you guys over there manage to break these brilliant cars all the time.
Legitly don't know must be hooning the twins
Had one with over 250k miles with original turbos. Only thing that went wrong was the air springs and only three of those broke.
Our roads are filled with pot holes, heavy bumps are common. Likely, we hit more bumps on a daily commute than you hit commuting for a year. Hoovie was overexaggerating the turbo issue, those original 2.7T ones have lasted me 150K miles before I sold the car to another person. The transmissions on the other hand, they will go, if you have 140K miles with the 2.7T, you likely have already started getting transmission codes by now. Usually ZF in that year lasted 150K-200K miles.
After stage 2 my s4 just couldn’t handle 1,500 miles without a boost pipe popping off or some sort of cooler I’m icing fluids😭
One of my friends had an Allroad just like this one. He had it since new in 2001 and drove it for 300k miles over 15 years.
i was waiting to see car wizards face when hoovie brings this to him. Suprised you didnt buy it
i was expecting that too
He should have. Low restrictions cats and no mufflers, a bit of truck bed-liner to touch up here and there.
When even he didn’t by it, you know it was bad.
Pretty bad when a guy who's gotten rich from buying crappy cars passes
My favorite part about owning one was hearing that engine startup in the morning...but then I was often greeted by the all-too familiar amber glow of the check engine light.
This dude doesn’t really know what “reliable” means😂
He knows what it means, he just doesn’t care lol
I feel like Hoovie needs to buy a first generation VW Touareg. Lots of people are recommending this car right now, and I'd love to hear his perspective on this "Bargain"
Why, nooo... I work at a VW/Audi dealer, every time an old Touareg enters it either leaves for partout or with huge repair bills
@@EuroTrashLife TFL CZcams channel purchased a cheap one quite a while ago and they've taken it off road and all sorts, don't think they've had any issues with it
Good Lord, first gen Tour Hogs were the worst!! I was there when they came out.
Phil Atkins one with a V10 diesel, too haha
@@nmg997 I had that engine in my Phaeton. Would recommend
I was driving behind one of these a few weeks ago and it killed itself right in front of me. I have never seen so much smoke come out of a car. 😂
oh then you never drove behind my wife or I in our daily drivers yes cracked heads or headgasket wont stop a lil 4cyl mitsubishi or ford escort evar.
My dad was once driving behind a car, and we thought it was getting foggy, there was that much smoke coming out from the car in front.
Black smoke was normal in my 2.5 TDI A6...
@@johnditch6357 what Mitsubishi are you talking about!!
@@brian_jake 1974 Dodge Branded but 111% misubishi was my sisters. great lil car.
I own a C5 allroad with the BAS 4.2V8 and as much as I DO love it, everything requires engine removal. It's so common that as my brother and I walked into the Audi dealer's workshop, he pointed to one of THREE engineless Audis and said "must've needed a new wiper blade". THAT'S how bad it is. *But it's OUR fault* - we WANTED a north-south engine with 4WD, ground clearance and true offroad capability, which forced Audi to do the following ;
• A north/south engine in a 4WD car without a transfer case is always going hang way forward, so Audi shortened it by moving the timing gear into the bellhousing. Day one of ownership I bought an engine crane to replace the broken slippers and worn tensioners etc. They didn't have a choice tho.
• On top of that, Audi needed to keep the nose short enough to drive off road and not get stuck, so they HAD to introduce "service mode" where you have to pull the front out to even SEE the serpentine belt.
• We wanted ground clearance so we got airbags. Stones create splits in the bags that are only noticeable when the height puts the split on the rolled bit, and being kinda random we tend not to fix them immediately (it's hard to even figure out which bag) so the same top notch wabco compressor as every mercedes uses wears out.
• I guess the eye-level torpedo tube they put the steering rack in was necessitated by the huge range of ride heights? The only job I delegated to a genuine Audi dealership was replacing p/s hoses and after 6.5 hours they said "we couldn't get a tool on one of the bolts properly but it's probably tight enough". THAT'S what working on an Audi is like.
• So it's a double firewall deal, with the battery and booster etc on top of the torpedo tube. Fun fact - the two drains in the bottom get blocked up and the car floods. Literally this morning I learned this, my battery was within one inch of being totally underwater, and it floods the cabin when you drive off or go up a hill. But it's a 10 second fix that's easily checked annually.
They really are a GOOD vehicle - the only non-dedicated 4WD offroad vehicle to pass landrover's death test. But if you HAVE to work on one, buy an engine crane, and a therapist.
I have one. 2001 Allroad 2.7t. 160,000 miles, still runs great. Absolutely love the thing.
Edit: Forgot to mention it's the manual model. It's also, like the one in the video, GREEN. EVERYWHERE. Personally, I like it, but it is a little overkill. I have had one turbo fail and it was a bit of a pain to replace, but I love the thing so much I can look past it. Never had the air suspension fail, and I love it to pieces.
Same!👍🏻
How much did the turbo replacement run you?
@@johndoee4742 I admit I don't quite remember, but I can say that if I had it done at a shop it would have been twice the cost. Hardest thing I've every replaced on anything, not just a car. The joke about having to remove the entire front half of the car to do anything is absolutely true. I'll edit this comment when I find the receipt.
@@cameronlane1281 I appreciate it👍🏻. I'm looking at a 2001 standard allroad 90k on it and just curious if I should actually get it. Never had an audi before so not sure. They did the timing belt and all the add ons that go with that, and the air suspension replacement doesn't seem top hard of a job to do myself, but I wouldn't even try doing a turbo. I appreciate the response
My father bought one of these new. Green with green leather. Only 3 air suspensions ever worked at the same time. (EDIT: What’s the VIN? I’m starting to wonder if this is his car!)
Plate to VIN it on VINwiki and get back to us!
Graham Dolamore No dice. I think that’s hoovies dealer plate that he slaps on temporary automotive fosters.
@gunit 010 u think ur edgy by saying that? It could be his if its the same spec, dont be weird mouthbreather
Same. Ours did same thing. One leaked and it "levelled" itself slammed on the ground.
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I owned a high trim level Passat from that same era, let’s just say I carried a gallon of every type of fluid in my trunk
Really?
So, do I.
Never had an issue with leaks on any of my cars, because I fix them before they become a problem.
You should've bought a diesel. Here in Europe a lot are diesels and my sister had one from the year 2002 for about 6 years and my dad one from 2003 for a short while. Never had any big issues with it!
But than again, the 1.9TDI from de Volkswagen-Audi Group is really the last terminator they've ever made. Had it in a Golf mk4 and an A3 8P. Love those engines in their 'all or nothing' power delivery due to the turbo lag and their robustness, all the while they are efficient as hell! Just give it it's oil and filters on time. Change the timing belt on time and those things will outlive your own grandchildren.
The petrol engines weren't that great. The only one was the 1.8T that was good which later models began to gain a thirst for oil. And the 2.0TDI that came after that where sh*t as well due to errors in the headdesign which blew out your gasket and also had turbo problems for days. Biggest issue was that the head would often just crack due to a design flaw. It's only with the 1.6TDI en 2.0TDI common rail that they redeemed their self for a bit even though you still had critical design flaws: central bolt of the oil pump that gets dull over a time and refused to pump oil into the engine... And the fuelpump of Bosch that was designed with no margins and with wrong fuel could blow out the pump and shoot little metal particles through your entiiiiiire fuel system... But besides that, they were just fine 😅
@@a3bmm594 thanks for reminding me to always buy Japanese cars !
Tyler is disorientated because it's a car that even being supposedly completely unreliable it works better than most of his fleet XDDDD
The most valuable part of the allroad is the rear cargo cover.
2002 owner with 173k miles refusing to give up until 200k miles. Unfortunately bushings, o-rings, seals, hoses, plastics and wires start to deteriorate because of age. Best damm snow mobile ever for a wagon minus the heater core❕
Buy your parts from FCP Euro ( guaranteed lifetime parts ) if you really want to afford this car.
I drove one of these new in 2002 and I thought it was AWESOME. The interior was great. The Bose sound system was very nice. Why would they change the original one for that crappy, adolescent, stolen-looking thing? It drove great, it had a suspension-lifting system that worked great.
I loved it. Sad to see it this worn out.
Maybe to have bluetooth /shrug
Or the stock one crapped out like half the other stuff on this car..
This car is trash
These cars are good, the point is people trash them and break thinking it is a tank it can do anything. No, it is a car.
ZN you are very right. Now luckily they make head units that look stock that offer Bluetooth www.continental-automotive.com/en-gl/Trucks-Buses/Interior-Cabin/Infotainment/Radios/FM-AM-Radio-with-USB-Bluetooth
We're all pretty much witnessing the evolution of Tyler into a much more powerful and obscure entity: Doug DeMuro.
Should've given him evolution candies to evolve faster
I know I recognized it from Doug too
I could listen to Tyler all day but I quit Doug de muro,he's just weird.
Hell no!!!
2001 green/green Allroad owner here. Mine's a 2.7t Tiptronic like this one, and I absolutely love it so far! It has been converted to regular coil springs, but the other common issues are non-existent for me so far.
So...not economically viable to keep them air?
It uses the same coils from A6 Avant ?
I had two of those. My favorite cars ever!!!
I agree, if you havent owned one you'll never know, mine is at 420hp today, but maintenance intensive unfortunately
Same! I have a 2.5 V6 Diesel and I‘am just impressed. 😍 Love that car!
I had one for ten years, never had a problem with it. It had 50000 miles when I bought and I put over 210 thousand miles on before I traded it in for 2008 RS4
Wtf
@Believe Inyourself there's alot of cars like that now a days. My gfs 2012 Malibu LTZ is the most over engineered shit I've ever laid eyes on. You have to pull the front bumper for everything, including changing headlights. The V6 also eats thru timing chains like nerds rope. It's more bs than my MK7 Jetta lol. Modern manufacturers are just rubbing this over engineering shit in our faces while we drive to the dealers with our tails between our legs and our wallets on a fasting diet cause they're making everything impossible to work on at home. You know Ford has it's own specific tools nowadays to work on their stuff? 15 years ago people shit up and down the name of BMW for doing the same thing lol.
@blaise takoy LOL really hard till I lose my lunch 2 cycle air cooled engines make more cents.
That's some seriously Fake News you just posted. Every car, even Toyotas, have probelms with over 200,000 miles on them.
blaise takoy And I thought we were talking about reliability!! I changed all the belts at 78000 miles, had full inspection and auto box oil changed. That was it. I didn’t change the timing belt myself so I don’t know how difficult it was to change. I’ve owned a lot of cars, never once I’ve I asked the Garrage how difficult it is to change a timing belt or chain, never.!
Me before the engine started: What a piece of junk!
After hearing the engine: Okay... let's not jump to conclusions...
The engine is legendary. It's good for like 500hp with stock internals.
Watch some running videos on built B5 S4s. 2.7ts sound fucking awesome, especially with dual pipes, and can make some really good power.
I have the exact one and the amount of compliments i've got... It aged really well, the seats ( leather) are comfortable af and the road noise is not even there. The bbad things i would point are: gas and the suspension ( mine takes 14,3L/100km...jeeez but has 250hp of course it drinks a lot)
@@quattno1506 Some of them have been modified to over 1000hp! They are a great base for tuning but, as was explained in the video, horrible for access and routine maintenance. Definitely not a car to buy if you don't like doing DIY!
@@soundseeker63 no S4/A6/Allroad engine has over 700whp, they start to crack and split blocks at around 650whp. All the 800whp+ 2.7ts are RS4 engines, that were devolved by Cosworth. They are similar engines and all the parts can be used on S4 2.7s but the RS4 blocks are much stronger and the RS4 parts were much stronger and more efficient.
The timing belt is extremely easy to do on this car and for the service position you don't have to fully take off the front you can just move it forward about 6 in and you'll have plenty of room to do everything
It's only like a $1,200 job at one of the best shops near me for Audis plus parts
When Audi’s work they are the best ... love hate relationship
My A4 is a dream.
Audi's twin cam, twin turbo, 5 valve per cylinder, variable valve timing, ULEV 2.7T with CANBUS was WAY ahead of it's time, and I've owned and driven one long enough to know. I have 5 vehicles, but my '01 A6 2.7T manual 6 speed sedan has been my daily all-season driver for 19 years and over 200,000 miles (335k, as I'm in Canada.) I considered Allroad at the time, but after two earlier Avants preferred the unique "fitted" Bauhaus styling of the sedan better. Plus, I wanted the 6 speed and I couldn't find an Allroad with one. My 2001 A6 2.7T was a Audi-Canada executive car bought with very low mileage through factory auction just before the '02s came out. As CPO they added another 3 yrs/80K giving me up to 6 years and 100,000 miles (160K) of total warranty + servicing.
It's a gorgeous car, gets lots of compliments with its unique "vanilla/royal blue" (looks way better than that sounds) interior and real sycamore wood accents plus a deep blue "Ming" pearl exterior. Right at the end of their 12 year no-rust warranty I got Audi to pay for lots of new panels and 60% of a full, proper repaint, so it's still a joy to detail. Xenon lamps are kept crystal clear, newer style rims, Conti DWS06 tires, nobody would have any idea how old and used it really is. I think '01 was a time when quality and content were at peak. This was the last year of full semi-aniline leather INCLUDING the seat backs and door panels, which has worn well and still smells great. Factory GPS and EVERYTHING still works: power rear shade, high bolster power sport seats, sport suspension (same shocks as new.) Replaced the cd changer with a 60Gb Phatnoise hard drive driven by the stock Bose system with updated speakers. Replaced turbos at 140K miles, steering rack at 180K, but all other maintenance on this car has been normal wear and tear, perfectly acceptable, nothing extraordinary. I do some things myself but the big stuff's done by an honest, experienced independent shop and have never deferred maintenance, so I think that makes a big difference. For $250 I replaced the notorious dead-pixels display. I never chipped it, choosing longevity over bigger speeding tickets and over-beating it.
Several times I've had the opportunity to sell it but frankly have yet to find a more capable, quick, satisfying and affordable daily (especially winter driver) that would justify the big $pread, or the unavoidable "just more stuff to fix" on about any new luxury car. Just a great, underrated ride that can still be enjoyed driving briskly in any season.
I have an 02 2.7t 6 spd ming blue lol what speakers did you use to upgrade the bose?
I love how you described the car. That sums up the reason I haven't parted with my 2000 Audi a6 v8. I particularly love the widebody fenders, and of course the sound from the muffler deleted v8. Mine is brilliant black exterior with onyx black/vanilla interior.
I have a B6 Avant instead of a C5 Allroad, but it's been such a great car. It's a classic Audi joke that "service position" means remove the front end, and while that can be annoying, it's actually pretty easy. The headlights and front bumper are quick to remove and the whole core support slides forward to make access super easy. It's better than doing a timing belt on a Golf where you have to squeeze through the wheel well!
Like you said of your car, the styling of these vehicles still look fantastic today. Many non-car people are surprised to find my wagon is 15 years old. Everything about the interior just feels good and, besides the B6's lack of cupholders, everything else is really well designed. I don't know why Audi get's a bad rap in comparison to other German manufacturers, it's really just a Volkswagen that's styled differently. I know people that've had way more problems with their Jetta or Golf than I've had with my Audi.
Paul Marentette
B6 A4 1.8t owner here , love my Audi
@@redrock861 I just bought an 01' A6 4.2! I used to have a 98' A6 with the 2.8 and I decided to buy the 01 after I found it for a good deal.
Those wagons in Europe with the diesel engines, were so good, i remenber seeing two or three for sale with 600000/700000 km
Igor Vieira not the allroad with POS drivetrain
Fuel pump failure, injector failure, cam shaft wear, cylinder head wear, alternator failure....
Yeah, very reliable engines.
dpf would have been replaced 10 times in that time at least...
Igor: my dad had a 1.9TDI one. With minimum maintenance he got 835000km or 520000miles before it was sold on as a working car. The clutch had to be changed twice. Other than that, no major issues.
Yep,big big service every 5000km and drive like an old lady on her way to the sunday-church(never exceed 1500rpm) and keep it in a warm-garage and.. it mite be possible to run it more than 500.000km.. in theory..😄😄😄
I have an 01 with 240k runs like a top, the struts can be easily converted. Very reliable once you do that
The Audi A6 Allroad c5, or the Ur Allroad, is actually an amazing car, if you take care of it. The germans were first out with making the car industry more profitable for them (as in harder for the consumer - since all the other brands were so simple built and less profitable), and in the later years alot of companies have done the same..and even extended Audi. Today cars break if u look at them just so the StealerShip can make more money from u, since "the lifetime of a car is estimated to be 5 years". But if u just drive a car without changing the oil etc, it will break after 5y lol. So u gotta be smarter than the stealership's "reccomendation", such as "lifetime gearoil" and "longlife engineoil" "intervals". Rubber airbellows will rot on any car from any company, that's just what rubber is. Rustwise the Allroad has almost every component in rustfree aluminium, except from the exhaust and the bodypanels, which the rustfree A8 has the luxury of. The tiptronic gearbox is alot stronger than the modern days Multitronic and S-Tronic gearboxes today. If u change the gearoil 2x faster+ than the CarkillerShip's reccomendation, its good. Also, if u dont wash it at the doorleafs, u will get rust forming there. But hey, what car, other than the A8, doesn't rust in this SaltWorld today. Comfort wise its mint. Quiet. Awesome soundsystem. Downside is leaky turbos that is hard to fix urself. 9 years of owning, still running, only changed break pads, discs, 1 airbellow, 1 compressor last month, 1 window regulator and some rust fixes - that's it, except oils. Got a 2001 mod. Got another 02 mod aswell. If anything will kill it, it's gonna be door rust or the gearbox - or just me getting more money to upgrade to a s6 or rs6 haha - goodluck me in this human caused global warming with restrictions all over. ECO-Taxes gonna be the biggest moneypit than fixing an old fossilefueled car. Also have 2 Mitsubishi Outlander '12, which are 10+yrs younger, but have had bigger expences, like 3 turbo swaps, egr fkups etc. And yea, having 2 cars of each makes it just family eco cheaper (we are 4). If 1 part breaks, we can borrow the part from the other car etc for testing.
UK here. Lots of these about here, because the TDI lumps in these are waaaaaaaay better.
Good point. Still the only car I’ve ever rejected though... Electrics on mine were 🤪.
@@samcadwallader2899 iirc mine was the 2.5, but the engine was the least of its worries! RS2 👏🏻!!
US only came with 2.7T
@@samcadwallader2899 2.5 Inline 5 is bulletproof. 2.5 V6 is shit
@@corwininadsm They made a few with the 4.2L as well.
The "entire front end" of that car comes off in ~20 minutes, rendering it in "service position". No big deal. Servicing the turbos sucks and, as for the air suspension, retrofitting traditional coils and struts is the solution. Oh, and they ARE available with 6 speed MANUAL transmissions as well. Still...hate 'em.
Thats still ~20 minutes added to say, a simple serpentine belt service. Plus the ~20 minutes to return it back to normal. Turbo replacement is practically impossible with the engine in. Plastic pcv spider hoses are also a nightmare. Just so much bad with the c5 platform. (At least here in the states)
They take a bit more than 20 minutes.
@@racerx8410712 yeah I agree. I could do it in an hour! Daniel Son has learned well grasshopper :)
@@Daniel-lb7bu why would u just service the serpentine belt,??? That one gets also replaced at timing belt interval
@@racerx8410712 I have literally done one in 20 minutes 15 with a friend
I bought a 2004 Allroad last fall with the 2.7. The interior is starting to look a little beat and the outsides been re-sprayed, but it's got 222,000 miles on it and runs pretty nice. The air ride, windows, AC, heated seats, etc all work and the original turbos dont even leak.
Can I have an update on mileage. I’m looking for one that beats my 250k miles.
7 Minutes in the video and two ads already. CZcams is getting unwatchable.
Install an ad blocker, bruh!
@@therealistnicko7027
Sure, but I'm mostly watching on iPad...no adblocker there.
You know it's the youtubers choice to put ads, where and how many. He's gotta pay the repair bills somehow
SJ R
CZcams changed it’s policy recently and added mid video ads whether the creator wanted it or not. It can only be deactivated per video...lot of work for bigger channels.
Most decent CZcamsrs don’t want multiple ads in the middle of their videos.
@@AttilaTheHun333333 No that was retroactive and only for videos between 8 mins and 9:59 minutes. All new videos after July 28th is up to the creator to decide.
The Allroad is one of best cars ever made, and it's one of my favorite. If you maintained it properly (high quality oil), put premium gas in it as instructed by the owner's manual, it will still run to this day just fine, and for many years to come. It's stylish, rugged, quick, safe, and very comfortable.
Have an 04, and it’s been great. 126k now. Replaced the front air struts with some Arnots air struts. Replaced all the cv boots and cooling fan last weekend. I love it. Always will!
Water pump and timing were done before I bought it, of course.
@@leerob2403 It's an amazing car!
My 1995 Audi A6 150k has been a tank everything working original. Even the 25year old original AC still blowing cold which if u hear hoovie or Scotty they'd say I'm lying..
@@JohnDoe_88 I believe you 100%. My uncle had a 1994 Audi 80 Quattro. After 350,000 km it was still like new. He sold it to his friend, and it still runs great with over 500,000 km on the clock.
When the V6 is so crammed on that engine bay imagine how fun it would be to work on a V8 one.
You mean W8? That is what you get in the B5 passat, which is basically this.
@@rkan2 No the Allroad also came with a 4.2 v8
@@rkan2 No, I mean the 4.2 Audi V8.
The same platform , the A6, also came with a 4.2 Twin Turbo V8 in the RS6 sedan and wagon... now THAT engine is a nightmare.
Or the V10 in the next generation rs6
Mines done 230,000 and still going well, 2.5 Tdi, 12 speed manual box. A few suspension arms were required at 100,000 but apart from that, all good.
I must be lucky... I purchased a 2004 Allroad new and put 84k miles on it. Zero issues. All regular service done at my local Audi dealership.
The scary part is when these self driving cars start getting old and sensors start giving false information back to the computer
Engineer much?
@@8584zender yep I'm an electrical engineer. You can definitely disable self driving if something fails or have redundant systems but electronics don't always fail in a predictable way and may be intermittent under certain conditions. There's only so much you can do especially when you can't add redundant systems to keep costs down or when people keep driving with warning lights on.
@chris younts and so will the coroners, morgues, and undertakers
I suspect the car will go into "limp on 10BHP" mode
The C5 Allroad was from the A6 line, so there's a lot of nice stuff (auto dimming and heated mirrors, heated front and rear seats, etc etc). This car with the 4.2 is FREAKING AMAZING, and a different beast than the ones with the 2.7t. The air ride is no more of an annoyance than any other car with air suspension.
2.7ts also respond to tuning very well
The 2.7 with the 6sp is sublime bruh
Jack McMaster 100% agree. My Allroad had the 4.2, but my tech and I talked a lot about how awesome the 2.7t can be with the right build. He knew a few that would run circles around my stock 4.2.
My daily is an 03 allroad 6 speed with K04s making 370hp at the wheels. Air suspension intact. It's a very unique car, but isn't that unreliable. Once you eliminate a bunch of stuff it's way better
Love to hear that! Mines too but not with K04s :(
I owned a B5 S4 6spd with full exhaust, downpipes and Tial 605 turbos. 550 hp and I LOVED the exhaust tone on the 2.7T. That car was great and even with all the mods, could still manage 30mpg with AWD on road trips! Nogaro blue. Miss it so much! Sold to pay for home repairs! Dang life ruining fun!
Last time I was this early Corona was a drink.
Last time I was this early, the "Last time I was this early" meme didn’t exist 😂
haha that's a good one!
Alcohol solves all problems ;)
Tyler : Most unreliable car ever made Audi all road
Me : laughs in Subaru EJ rumble .
My cousin : Braps in rotary
Me laughs in 6.blow scream
Nah, these are worse than EJs. He forgets to mention the turbos all break, and while K03 (and even 4s)s aren't that expensive, they're an engine pull. An RX-7 though is a good competitor.
@@nmpls Hey man I haven't seen a stock 6.blow last for that long before floating the heads via egr cooler shitting it's pants into the intake.
The 70’s Audi 100 was worse. Everything was a brand new design with little testing. A common repair was just dropping the engine and trans and putting in an entire new unit.
Stock EJs arent unreliable to be honest
Not sure if the USA got it, but the Audi Allroad was available with the 2.5TDI engine and a manual gearbox. The only problem then is the adjustable suspension.
I’ve had several of them without any particular parts to fail on any of them. I could mention loooots of other cars I would rather give the title of a lemon
Hoovie: "The best station wagons of the time were Mercedes and BMW"
Me: sad Subaru noises...
*sad EJ rumble*
I was thinking along the same lines. Did he forget the Outback?
He’s never been in an Australian v8 wagon....
Yea I agree good buddy, Subaru is quite better than all the Eurotrash, I don’t even wanna hear it about the headgaskets from anyone, that said, I love my E39 although I’ve already dumped hundreds more than I ever dumped into my Fozzy
Volvo V70 stations are more reliable and more popular in the Netherlands. Especially with a nice 5 cilinder.
Doug: this car is only good for crushing
Hoovie: I want to buy that
Well, Hoovie does still have the Excursion...
The AllRoad was a unique, advanced and cool car at the time. On the manual versions, one could even have low range as an optional extra! And, if I recall correctly, Porsche also had a finger in the Pie with the development of the AllRoad, but to a lesser extend compared to the RS2.
My 2.5tdi allroad has 431K and stil going strong.. great car ! although it cost a lot in the Netherlands, about 208 euros road tax a month excl insurance. but its worth it
Wow, I had one of these (U.K. diesel) one of best cars I’ve had, practical with estate form, got me everywhere I wanted to go. Kept it for 8 years with very little problems other than general servicing.... I still miss the car to this day
I think the words "UK Diesel" had alot to do with your experience.
Key part... "General servicing"
Most people in North America think you just half ass services and then cry when the car breaks constantly down the road lol.
I was warned by everyone when I bought my old B6 A4 and it's been one of the most reliable and inexpensive cars to maintain that I've owned to date.
@@freakinbox Excellent point
@@freakinbox exactly! I was afraid of German cars my whole life until I started doing my homework, went into the real world & actually started interacting with them when I'd finally had it with spending thousands on my Acuras. Contrary to US belief, Japanese cars can also cost alot when they break & they do break. I found all the "trashed" bmw/benzes I saw were trashed because of neglect, abuse, & half-assing. If your money supply isn't endless, it does take a different mindset to own a German car here & most ppl in the US don't have that mindset unfortunately.
Yeah well I love German cars, been driving them for about 20 years, started with a bmw 3 series, then moved to Audi, loving the Quattro drive especially in the Scottish climate.
I’m now on my 5th German car and still have 4 of them ( all Audi) my daily is an A8 diesel, I’ve a 97 4.2 A8 sport, a 96 2.6v6 cabriolet, and a 90 2.3 20v (7a) Quattro sport coupe. Little bit of something for different occasions and driving moods lol
Dougs Hummer ran over that PT Cruiser. His Land Rover struggled to even get on top of that allroad
VW/Audi transmissions are sometimes known to have valve body issues. One thing to consider is that any automatic transmission can have those issues but for some reason some people love to hate German cars.
These were amazing cars in their day. I had an 04. That 2.7T from the S4 was an awesome motor and could have been had with a stick. Biggest issue was the air suspension. One of the best cars I had but glad I didn’t keep into high miles!
Same here..had 2003 2.7 all road..loved the car..ride was smooth as hell, great acceleration and comfort. Suspension air bags sucked as they always went and couldn't afford to replace after a while..had 150k when I gave up😄
Remembering the still shot of MacGyver actor standing over the engine bay of his dead allroad.
Dude I had a 6-speed manual 2003, yanked out the air suspension and replaced it with Arnott spring conversion kit, APR Stage 1 tune, thicker anti-roll bars, did the timing belt and water pump, etc. and drove it 14,000 miles all around the United States one summer (2014) hitting many national parks, and it performed beautifully. Yes they are unreliable, but if you don't have the automatic, you convert the air supension, and you maintain it well, it's a pretty awesome do-it-all car that should run for a while.
Great for someone mechanically minded, but the majority of people who bought these things (and most Audis) aren't, so off to the scrapheap they go once the shitty suspension or transmission craps itself.
My 2.7t Manuel has 360.000 km with his first engine and the second air suspension. These cars are Bomb proof in my opinion
Bought mine wich was the cheapest,serviced it right away - timing belt,oil etc,mapped it to 310bhp and after 2 years of daily terror i've changed only some cheap sensors to this day.The car runs perfectly it even has 8y old lpg installed :)
The front end comes ‘off’ easily and as one piece with a few bolts and will swing out the way to allow access to the front of the engine without dropping coolant, AC gas, or other fluids, people just don’t realize and struggle in the tight space or remove all the hoses and radiators by draining the fluids 🙄
Never knew that, go figure.
And how you can remove radiator without dropping coolant? Or if you leave it in its place, how it helps with room?
xiukn8 the radiator, condenser and oil coolers etc stay attached to the front cross member, once the bolts are out you can leave the hoses connected and pull the front end out for plenty of room, if more work or room is needed, drain and unclip the hoses and remove the whole front end cassette as a single item, it’s quick and easy... people don’t know and struggle. 🤨
You’re actually right after working on a few of these this is by far the easiest way to do it
@@xiukn8 You dont remove them, just slide the front out into what is known as the service position.
Remove all of the bolts that go into the frame and insert 2 long bolts for the assembly to rest on, then slide the whole thing out.
That gives you plenty of room to do whatever, even taking the entire engine out (even though it's supposed to go out from beneath).
8:15 your neighbors must love you 😆
As an owner of a 2004 audi allroad, I can say that I’ve been very lucky with the previous owner fixing multiple common issues. I have 190,000 miles and besides a few small issues my car runs and sounds really good with a full exhaust
One of the ways to know if the timing belt was replaced at some point in this old audis is to check the alignment on the front bumper if if it's not aligned that's a good sign because to replace the timing Belt you have to basically disassemble the entire front end of the vehicle
Audi allroad: i am the worst car in the world!
Yugo 45: hold my slivowiz
I think the Yugo would be more reliable, at least that's not complicated in any way, and easy to service...
Fix the Yugo with tin cans and duct tape
The wizard runs away screaming....
Nope, running to his boat dealer.
He's going to have to instill a Hoovie Audi ban to go along with his Hoovie BMW ban.
He actually likes VWs
Pretty sure Wizard just go "Ca-Ching" for his next boat payment when Tyler shows up with this Audi.
@@davidpick1076 My tech was licking his chops when he told me about a new customer with a Bentley Arnage.
I've always loved these, despite the problems, I still want to buy one. I keep my eye on all of the ones that come up to market, hoping that they don't get sent to a junkyard somewhere.
I've found one 1200
My father had one brand new with the 2.5 diesel engine, it has been a great car, super cool for the time, really different from everything else and never had a problem in 5 years of ownership. It had the exact same spec of this one (but with leather/alcantara seats, much better and cooler than full leather): that interior was (and still is) absolutely gorgeous. It really was something special.
Audi executives: “The Subaru Outback is a popular car, let’s make one.”
Audi engineers: “We’ll put in expensive air suspension that uses the cheapest plastic air hoses we can find and stuff the engine bay with so much crap so nobody can access any basic maintenance items. Plastic EVERYTHING so that it all becomes brittle quickly and cracks/leaks!”
Executives: “Brilliant!”
The “all plastic parts” is just baffling when you think about it. Some parts, yes, but plastic for cooling parts? Thats absurd and definitely planned obsolescence.
@@kenim on their older models plastic bits held up perfect, after c4 everything got low grade materials
Because Subaru’s don’t become leaky messes at 80k. Perhaps the most overrated brand today, plus driving a Subaru is such a non-rewarding experience.
Actually, you say that but the A4 wagon with the 1.8T and a manual is honestly fairly reliable. Obviously that had to change for the all road as they weren’t making enough money on repairs
Tyler how could you fail to mention the Subaru Outback 😭
This. Allroad was "inspired" by Outback.
@@kimihikotsukagoshi8946 The Outback pretty much started the whole trend..
@@crispindry2815 the emoji is a replacement for all punctuation ☔
He mentioned luxury wagons. Outback is not luxury
@@BlakeGibbons my 05 LL Bean 3.0r begs to differ
I have the 2004 Audi Allroad 2.7 T.... and at 180,000 miles, is still going strong. Easily goes over 200 km/hr, easy to work on (as there isn't anything that needs fixing).. it's pretty bomb proof. I drove a 1994 sunbird prior to this.. and yes, I love the Audi (minus the extra fuel costs)... but the sunbird would never go 200 km/hr... so. I'll keep it, and run it until it dies. :)
any overly complicated car will be unreliable after 20 years, regardless of the brand. Especially if it has not been properly maintained.
It's one thing when the gadgets are unreliable, it's another thing when things like, you know, the motor and transmission are completely failed in less than 100k miles... Audi, Volkswagen, BMW are a disgrace and absolutely do not in any way deserve the reputation they had in the 2000 to 2010 range, even now they are wildly overvalued
@@finish_my_projects exactly, I am so sick of people praising german engineering...like HOW does this make sense, the most unreliable, expensive, overpriced, depreciating, plastic junk is the best??? Undeserving is a good word, I've been puzzled my entire existence how everyone sees it so differently 🤯🤯🤯
@@VNCTHE1 I believe they take full advantage of "perception of quality" vs actual quality...
@@finish_my_projects how do those german brands keep this up for decades though? Proof that the human mind wants to fit in more than make sense....
@@finish_my_projects No, actually no...
working at a car wash, those rims were a nightmare
Probably great to get mud in for an off-road vehicle.
I’m a detailer I hear you, you’d have to move the car a million times to get the spokes all clean
@@lawnmowerdude mud wasn't a problem, the high pressure wands took care of that. It was brake dust, you had to floss it out with degreaser
Everyone gives allroad bad flack for the air suspension. But an allroad is Eastern European drivers wet dream. The air suspension isn't that expensive to fix as long as you don't replace the entire shocks. When the bags or seals fail.
My dad used to have one and I didn’t give much issues. Only a valve cover gasket and the air suspension bags.
@@zohaiblughmani5089 yep. As long as you keep on top of the maintenance there's nothing to worry about.
Had one too. Guess the 2.5 TDI makes it a mich better car. 😁
well my dad has one, and he loves it. yesss, it got all the problems with oil, windows moter problems, transmition, and clutch, and airconditioning is not working, but he still loves it ....
I had one and drove it for 100k miles, just drive it like an adult and it will serve you faithfully...
200,000 miles on mine and still going strong, look after them and they last
Did your mom not teach you lying is bad?
basshead lol refer to my video...
176,000 miles on my 2007 a4 3.2 cabrio. Left timing chain tensioner was replaced due to noise on startup. Other than that, I've never had a check engine light and only mild oil leaks from the valve covers. Take care of your car.
Exactly @James Cherrill. I hate when people say a car is unreliable no the owner is. Just take care of it and it will go along way
+Simon Say35 It's still not reliable if you have very often take care of your car.
11:52 I agree. Just watch in ten years, all the cars with CVT piling up in the junkyards.
Valdeck all of them, yes
If it's a Nissan CVT you won't have to wait half that long.
Except Toyotas.
I have a 2.8 and has 480.000 km still running best car I ever owned