Hear Roy Hargrove, Terence Blanchard, Poncho Sanchez, Wallace Roney, Gregory Porter and Kenny Barron talk about what it takes to make in the music business.
An old woman approached a violin player after a show and said "oh, you played beautifully, I´d give up my whole life to be able to play like that" (loose translation). The violinist answered "well, lady, that´s exactly what I did".
I am happy that a lot of you are beginning to have this concept: Isaac Newton gave up all his life for the love of physics, and without such passion, there would be no cars today. Same goes to music. I am new in music. I started learning an instrument (guitar) and singing two or three years ago (2017). I only have the passion, no matter how slow my progress is. Those who learn it for the women or for money get lost and will not achieve the knowledge I have achieved in just under three years.
Thomaz da Silva ha, yes! However, even if u don't play ur instrument, singing along to music, or listening to study pieces, or maybe singing over hip hop or drum n bass as if it was your instrument, is still study/practice. I play flute n sax, but did about 90 mins serious cajon study on Friday night!
Can't be about money. Can't be a hobby. Can't be just to get girls. In order to make it, it has to be who you are, nothing more, nothing less. The grind is too rigid and the demands are too great, and that's to be average!
thejazzman210 that's why i can't get on the next level then. i don't want it enough and i'm a lazy piece of shit. i want to play real good but can't ( more like ' I don't want to') get on that level
@@GrumpyStormtrooper I want to be a mucisian and im a lazy piece of shit too XD just practice 5/10 min a day for the rest of your life and dont burn your head so much.
@@andralfoo practice practice practice. Robotically then when you feel something loosen up hit it hard and loud you will loose a sense of time, Or Time Dilation, almost, after that ... put it down for a while, a week maybe two, then start practicing more complex pieces Robotically Repetitive
AD isn't as much of a thing anymore and a lot of niches are already populated. Therefore the competition is very stiff, there is money against you, and then on top of that you need to stand out. Tough.
I could see someone misinterpreting what you are saying. From what I understand, you are saying that, to make it in the music industry, you can't make the music a hobby or for money or girls. But someone might understand you as saying that music just can't be a hobby. There are many people who play music as a hobby, and they're pretty good. Not everyone is called to be a professional, but that doesn't make the music invalid or something if it's a hobby. Like I said though, I believe you're talking about making it in the music business if I'm not mistaken.
Thomas J DiGenno Sr And Kenny Barron is a very complex, densely layered pianist (in my view). But he's always right there, never aloof or formal. The guy has a ton of heart.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIM. The younger kids I see are about"riffs and runs" very little heart behind it. I didn't start playing piano untill I was 35( I'm 54 now) and I'm STILL in process.
@@frederickweeksjr.3287 How has your journey progressed? I Just started in earnest this year and I'm 38.I wish I would have started earlier but at least I'm here
I read a quote about Chet Baker once that said he could say more in one note than most people can say in a whole song. That is the kind of heart felt musicality that most musicians lack.
Word up. If I could afford it I would pay cats like Wynton Marsalis not to play. God bless you Kenny Barron for speaking the truth and carrying the torch.
Yes he is Lesole. But not all new Jazz musicians. My stuff is soulful and I'm so glad he pointed this out. Many students I know study the rudiments and get them right, but asking them to feel and connect is a whole other issue. Kenny is on the money when he says there is a disconnect. Music isn't about the head.
Melted Honey How do you suggest a new student learn? Barron mentioned the woeful emphasis on scales and some other technical things over the emphasis on feeling, but how does one go about learning music from an emotional standpoint rather than a technical one?
@@lukaswarner5372 learn all the technical stuff first. Knowing chord voicings, scales,chord progressions,licks and your theory inside out and it will aid you in your ability to express yourself it doesn't hinder you at all it aids you. Just remember your playing music and it's not a contest and it's about expressing yourself.
Thank you so very much for this share. All them cats said the same thing in their individual voices. Just like improv. Bring it from the soul, no matter how long it may take. Day by day, you get closer and you make another heart happy. Bless.
I once heard the great New Orleans vocalist and musician, John Boutte, tell an audience that if anything is going to save this planet it just may be MUSIC.
I’m a drummer (16) all of my past drum teachers lessons I’ve cancelled until I found a teacher that let my play and learn improv learning techniques I can implement into playing .... Cut to my live musicals in which I’m the core drummer and I’m making big decisions on how to cue the dancers and end songs and even the bows section all because I can feel the story of the musicals and can adjust accordingly
I am a young, upcoming musician myself, I am only 57 years old, non American, non rich, can't market my music, I have a very bright future, for I am the future :)
guard your heart , dont sell your soul, keep your eyes fixed on your purposes for creating if there no particular one, Get One, Make It The One who Created you and the Sound And Air the Light Water Currently Tiding By Moon and the Rising Red Flower, the One God the Existing One JeHoVah blessed be His Name.
And you need to form a union. It ain’t about the money, but a musician puts so much time into his art, and he gives so many people so much joy that he (or she) deserves to live a life of dignity, not be nickeled and dimed.
Music is spiritual and it creates a mood...you know when your on your game..sometimes if you play to predictable it's ok but doesnt always create something special where as when you let everything go and do something different in moment..the listener will be inspired *
There is no secret, only practice. I grew up with a knack for dancing and relied upon this (proudly) until one day I got destroyed in a dance battle in a club. I went back to my friends feeling demoralised telling them of what happened. One of them replied with brutal honesty "Well, what did you expect? You don't even practice." That very moment...the sobering truth woke me up and then the real work began...practice, practice, practice.
Very Inspiring comments from the greats. I agree that their are a lot of technical players out today but I very seldom remember what they play after it’s over and the music never leaves me in chill bumps. The soul is just not there.
Terence Blanchard nailed! By the way breathless is a beautiful album and so the live album with e-collective I have the honor to see him at Newport jazz festival.
Great advice...... Remember you and all before you made the blueprints. These younger musicians are the children you all gave musical birth too. From a heavy black phones to the smartphone. Same concept but, the rate of process information and communicating is much faster. With age comes wisdom. I give blessing and thanks to those before, the present and future. The Creator is always creating......
I like what Kenny baron said and Pancho said Kenny said it best so many musicians are playing these technical stuff that actually the audience can not connect to I love traditional jazz but my audience can not get into that stuff so I switched over to smooth jazz it's easier on the ears I remember when I first started talking about getting started on my debute CD Let's fly away and my female friends asked me is it that old jazz or the smooth jazz cause the old jazz is hard to follow ...once they told me that I def switched over to smooth jazz because my fans are the ones I had to make sure they would support the music the traditional jazz artists are way to technical you must play from within yourself other wise you won't have any where to go without the scales or arpeggios and theory stuff like that ...Kenny baron hit it right on the nose
One thing I’ve encountered through the years of playing, is the amount of competition, jealousy and back stabbing some of these so called musicians will pull. It’s a gift we are given to share, to entertain, not to compete.. Some will only try to bring you down. Get out there and surround yourself with the same like minded people to play with. Gig,play,gig,play and then some. Your best practice and learning will come from gigs. If your passionate about it, you will in time benefit from it, even if that one person approaches you after the gig to tell you how much they enjoyed your performance.
Chris, I can attest to what you just said. People will try to bring you down. I would add that if that's what you encounter, don't stay too long in that situation. In some cases musicians will force you to play louder or harder than you need to. That can lead to injury. Move on. I didnt know I could play again due to injuries. This won't necessarily happen at higher levels of well respected musicians. But because in jazz and certain Latin genres the gigs are disappearing and never were that plentiful in the first place, competition can be brutal ( since we're keeping it real). In other words if there's a lot of tension in the group or club situation, move on! Be more like water and flow on.
I came upon this channel and read your comment and I will say you're SPOT ON. I play piano for a church and even in this arena it's a problem. I can't put the hours in what most do( I drive truck), bit when I'm home I practice quite a bit. Most people forget that it's not so much about the ooohs and aaahs as it is touching the heart. I believe we believe we need to encourage one another in their gifts and not be so quick to right someone off. Enjoyed your comment.
Frederick Weeks Jr. thank you. My wife always refers to me as the tortured artist. It can be frustrating when you are flooded with ideas, no matter the time of day or night. So much to share, so many ears not to hear. Just keep moving.
I can relate to what Kenny Barron is saying 100 percent. I miss the backyard B.B. Q. Jam session type music of the Golden Era of so called Jazz . Where have all the pretty triplets gone?
Ive noticed too that there are some younger players with mindbogglingly great technique but they dont seem to play from the heart. At first its very impressive but it does not really go anywhere. Lots of the younger players say standards bore them but perhaps they did not live the life of the older players who stayed in segregated hotels or killed themselves trying to get a gig for a long time.
An old woman approached a violin player after a show and said "oh, you played beautifully, I´d give up my whole life to be able to play like that" (loose translation). The violinist answered "well, lady, that´s exactly what I did".
zaxapitsa was the violin player old?like the old woman?
Antonio Mantané ...his age was never determined, but he did let the old lady blow him some moments later
Which is precocious talk for a 6 yo
I am happy that a lot of you are beginning to have this concept: Isaac Newton gave up all his life for the love of physics, and without such passion, there would be no cars today. Same goes to music. I am new in music. I started learning an instrument (guitar) and singing two or three years ago (2017). I only have the passion, no matter how slow my progress is. Those who learn it for the women or for money get lost and will not achieve the knowledge I have achieved in just under three years.
@@christophervance7080 lol
How to get rich playing music:
1 Practice 2.Practice 3. Find oil
What does this mean? lol Someone please explain. I really wanna know.
How do you make a small fortune playing jazz?..... Start with a large one lol
The last one just hit so fucking hard I got guilty. I really need to do some shit now
Thomaz da Silva ha, yes! However, even if u don't play ur instrument, singing along to music, or listening to study pieces, or maybe singing over hip hop or drum n bass as if it was your instrument, is still study/practice. I play flute n sax, but did about 90 mins serious cajon study on Friday night!
Can't be about money. Can't be a hobby. Can't be just to get girls. In order to make it, it has to be who you are, nothing more, nothing less. The grind is too rigid and the demands are too great, and that's to be average!
thejazzman210 that's why i can't get on the next level then. i don't want it enough and i'm a lazy piece of shit.
i want to play real good but can't ( more like ' I don't want to') get on that level
@@GrumpyStormtrooper I want to be a mucisian and im a lazy piece of shit too XD just practice 5/10 min a day for the rest of your life and dont burn your head so much.
@@andralfoo practice practice practice. Robotically then when you feel something loosen up hit it hard and loud you will loose a sense of time, Or Time Dilation, almost, after that ... put it down for a while, a week maybe two,
then start practicing more complex pieces Robotically Repetitive
AD isn't as much of a thing anymore and a lot of niches are already populated. Therefore the competition is very stiff, there is money against you, and then on top of that you need to stand out. Tough.
I could see someone misinterpreting what you are saying.
From what I understand, you are saying that, to make it in the music industry, you can't make the music a hobby or for money or girls.
But someone might understand you as saying that music just can't be a hobby. There are many people who play music as a hobby, and they're pretty good. Not everyone is called to be a professional, but that doesn't make the music invalid or something if it's a hobby.
Like I said though, I believe you're talking about making it in the music business if I'm not mistaken.
Kenny Barron hit it right on the head, alot of current jazz and fusion long on complexity but short on emotion
Thomas J DiGenno Sr And Kenny Barron is a very complex, densely layered pianist (in my view). But he's always right there, never aloof or formal. The guy has a ton of heart.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIM. The younger kids I see are about"riffs and runs" very little heart behind it. I didn't start playing piano untill I was 35( I'm 54 now) and I'm STILL in process.
Cohesion/ compassion > complexity ALWAYS.
@@emmitjohnstone1734 great summary
@@frederickweeksjr.3287 How has your journey progressed? I Just started in earnest this year and I'm 38.I wish I would have started earlier but at least I'm here
I read a quote about Chet Baker once that said he could say more in one note than most people can say in a whole song. That is the kind of heart felt musicality that most musicians lack.
Heart or ego? I heard him, after a gig, arguing with Paul Chambers about who had better ears. Dumb shit.
That was Louis Amstrongs note. Not Chet Baker
Louis was legendary with good reason, but the quote was about Chet.
Elders droppin knowledge.
to all young jazz school graduates... listen to kenny!
I agree. Many young players do not play with heart and feeling . It's all blowing too many notes and writing the most challenging compositions.
From south park?
Great advice from all these greats. Kenny Barron is right on target.
Kenny Barron is ON POINT.
Word up. If I could afford it I would pay cats like Wynton Marsalis not to play. God bless you Kenny Barron for speaking the truth and carrying the torch.
Yes he is Lesole. But not all new Jazz musicians. My stuff is soulful and I'm so glad he pointed this out. Many students I know study the rudiments and get them right, but asking them to feel and connect is a whole other issue. Kenny is on the money when he says there is a disconnect. Music isn't about the head.
Melted Honey
How do you suggest a new student learn? Barron mentioned the woeful emphasis on scales and some other technical things over the emphasis on feeling, but how does one go about learning music from an emotional standpoint rather than a technical one?
@@lukaswarner5372 learn all the technical stuff first. Knowing chord voicings, scales,chord progressions,licks and your theory inside out and it will aid you in your ability to express yourself it doesn't hinder you at all it aids you. Just remember your playing music and it's not a contest and it's about expressing yourself.
Thank you so very much for this share. All them cats said the same thing in their individual voices. Just like improv. Bring it from the soul, no matter how long it may take. Day by day, you get closer and you make another heart happy. Bless.
practice practice practice!!!!!!!!!
Sum it up, practice everyday even if it's 10 minutes.
Uhhh no. I think other important point is to play music that’s from the heart. Something you feel. Not some intellectual nonsense.
I once heard the great New Orleans vocalist and musician, John Boutte, tell an audience that if anything is going to save this planet it just may be MUSIC.
Terrence Blanchard is really on point! I think many of the others are as well, but Terrence expressed what I feel very much.
I agree!
I must keep studying. . . . enduring with a great attitude. . .my own style and concept. . Thanks
Kenny Barron sums today's scene perfectly
I’m a drummer (16) all of my past drum teachers lessons I’ve cancelled until I found a teacher that let my play and learn improv learning techniques I can implement into playing ....
Cut to my live musicals in which I’m the core drummer and I’m making big decisions on how to cue the dancers and end songs and even the bows section all because I can feel the story of the musicals and can adjust accordingly
music from the heart.
I am a young, upcoming musician myself, I am only 57 years old, non American, non rich, can't market my music, I have a very bright future, for I am the future :)
Dream on baby!
Dont let ur dream be dream :)
guard your heart , dont sell your soul, keep your eyes fixed on your purposes for creating if there no particular one, Get One, Make It The One who Created you and the Sound And Air the Light Water Currently Tiding By Moon and the Rising Red Flower, the One God the Existing One
JeHoVah
blessed be His Name.
By Him
Through Him
For Him
are all things.
PBUyou
And you need to form a union. It ain’t about the money, but a musician puts so much time into his art, and he gives so many people so much joy that he (or she) deserves to live a life of dignity, not be nickeled and dimed.
Gerald O'Brien Agreed!
Gerald O'Brien for a minute there I thought you was a fellow Scouser ✨✨✨🤔😮😂😂😂✨✨✨🇬🇧💌🇬🇧✨✨✨
Polo Lounge Whatever a scouser is.
Okay, now I know. No, my ancestors sailed West out of Ireland, not East.
VERY TRUE.
thank you for posting this!
This is beautiful. Thank you.
This is wonderful.
Awesome advice and straight talk to us musicians!
Wow! That was awesome! Truly inspirational.
thanks to all involved in making this video! Proper got to me this one 👊😊
Great stuff. I wouldn't mind hearing several of videos like this.
Music is spiritual and it creates a mood...you know when your on your game..sometimes if you play to predictable it's ok but doesnt always create something special where as when you let everything go and do something different in moment..the listener will be inspired *
Thank you for posting. This was helpful.
Awesome feedback
Master Barron! Heart!!
Fascinating, great advice from all of them. 🙌🏼
Really awesome! Thank you! This is so inspirational and encouraging!
A great video. Thank you all!
There is no secret, only practice. I grew up with a knack for dancing and relied upon this (proudly) until one day I got destroyed in a dance battle in a club. I went back to my friends feeling demoralised telling them of what happened. One of them replied with brutal honesty "Well, what did you expect? You don't even practice." That very moment...the sobering truth woke me up and then the real work began...practice, practice, practice.
3:15 that's exactly what I feel when I listen to these super shreddy metal guys.. especially the ones on CZcams
great channel thank you so much for existing .....
Right On fellows !
Preach Kenny Barron, preach!
Beautifully Beautiful.
Amazing!
Thank you, these are gold advises
Great Advice!!! Music is life long endeavor to which one must be commited. Thanks.
Thanks for the video, great advices indeed. 📌
great video I really appreciated this !!
Thanks!
Awesome!!
Great points!
3:14 i really agree with him!Ihope every young jazz musician listens to this
Gregory Porter. Great singer, great material and great soloists backing him. Really glad he made it.
This is so inspiring.
Terrence Blanchard speaking truth. And it’s encouraging.
Wow, this advice applies to life. I can apply this to IT and keyboard.
thank you so much
Very Inspiring comments from the greats. I agree that their are a lot of technical players out today but I very seldom remember what they play after it’s over and the music never leaves me in chill bumps. The soul is just not there.
Agree with Kenny Barron 100%
This was great.
Words of wisdom right there.
Existence of exploration........ thank u
Thanks " God bless
I watch this video frequently as jus a regular musician! Can’t wait to revisit after I make it!!!!! 🖤 love to all
Terence Blanchard's words from 4:47 were brilliant!!!
Kenny Barron. Loved your stuff with Getz. Yardstick, man.
I appreciate this a lot
Kenny Barron has the key in my opinion. It's supposed to be a conversation more so than a lecture. It's all great advise from great musicians. thanks.
Terence Blanchard nailed! By the way breathless is a beautiful album and so the live album with e-collective I have the honor to see him at Newport jazz festival.
Kenny Barron said The It.The heart is the lighthouse for the mind
I'm a beatmaker but I've always thought of myself as a jazz musician, this advice was so helpful
Great video✨
Brilliant..
Great vid!
Best video I’ve encountered on the internet ever.
“A constant existence of exploration” 💘
Gregory Porter, thank you for mentioning Leon Thomas!
This is all so true too. I'm only 34 and understand all of this
Kenny Barron's comment👍
Great advice...... Remember you and all before you made the blueprints. These younger musicians are the children you all gave musical birth too. From a heavy black phones to the smartphone. Same concept but, the rate of process information and communicating is much faster. With age comes wisdom. I give blessing and thanks to those before, the present and future. The Creator is always creating......
amazing
Most apt advice for the younger generation
totaly agree
I like what Kenny baron said and Pancho said Kenny said it best so many musicians are playing these technical stuff that actually the audience can not connect to I love traditional jazz but my audience can not get into that stuff so I switched over to smooth jazz it's easier on the ears I remember when I first started talking about getting started on my debute CD Let's fly away and my female friends asked me is it that old jazz or the smooth jazz cause the old jazz is hard to follow ...once they told me that I def switched over to smooth jazz because my fans are the ones I had to make sure they would support the music the traditional jazz artists are way to technical you must play from within yourself other wise you won't have any where to go without the scales or arpeggios and theory stuff like that ...Kenny baron hit it right on the nose
Beautiful.. Thank You!
Good stuff
There is no such a thing as talent! There's Devotion and (a lot of) Work.
"The problem with talent, is that you never really know if you have any." Robert Wyatt.
LOVE IT IAM OLD SCHOOL ANDY WILLIAMS SINATRA SMOKEY ALL THOSE GREAT S
These are the kind of guys you want in the band.
this was nice
So agree with Kenny Needs more music from the heart. And yes it’s constant existence of exploration ❤️
great comments...
Has to be from the heart. 👏🏼
that's a start but you're going to need more than that.
One thing I’ve encountered through the years of playing, is the amount of competition, jealousy and back stabbing some of these so called musicians will pull. It’s a gift we are given to share, to entertain, not to compete.. Some will only try to bring you down. Get out there and surround yourself with the same like minded people to play with. Gig,play,gig,play and then some. Your best practice and learning will come from gigs. If your passionate about it, you will in time benefit from it, even if that one person approaches you after the gig to tell you how much they enjoyed your performance.
Chris, I can attest to what you just said. People will try to bring you down. I would add that if that's what you encounter, don't stay too long in that situation. In some cases musicians will force you to play louder or harder than you need to. That can lead to injury. Move on. I didnt know I could play again due to injuries. This won't necessarily happen at higher levels of well respected musicians. But because in jazz and certain Latin genres the gigs are disappearing and never were that plentiful in the first place, competition can be brutal ( since we're keeping it real).
In other words if there's a lot of tension in the group or club situation, move on! Be more like water and flow on.
I came upon this channel and read your comment and I will say you're SPOT ON. I play piano for a church and even in this arena it's a problem. I can't put the hours in what most do( I drive truck), bit when I'm home I practice quite a bit. Most people forget that it's not so much about the ooohs and aaahs as it is touching the heart. I believe we believe we need to encourage one another in their gifts and not be so quick to right someone off. Enjoyed your comment.
Frederick Weeks Jr. thank you. My wife always refers to me as the tortured artist. It can be frustrating when you are flooded with ideas, no matter the time of day or night. So much to share, so many ears not to hear. Just keep moving.
@@chriscollesano8463 TRUE. I hope your time comes to bring your stuff out
Play everyday as much as possible
I can relate to what Kenny Barron is saying 100 percent. I miss the backyard B.B. Q. Jam session type music of the Golden Era of so called Jazz . Where have all the pretty triplets gone?
A word to the wise is sufficient!
talent and knowledge and a heart for music are all necessary, but without courage, a musician never gets heard
Even with courage you don't always get heard. There are no guarantees.
Terence Blanchard really knows what's up, especially with this many distractions these days.
Nice Burka Gregory!
You is a fool.
Ive noticed too that there are some younger players with mindbogglingly great technique but they dont seem to play from the heart. At first its very impressive but it does not really go anywhere. Lots of the younger players say standards bore them but perhaps they did not live the life of the older players who stayed in segregated hotels or killed themselves trying to get a gig for a long time.
who posted this? Thank you so much
RIP Roy Hargrove