Fender, Vox & Marshall Overdrive Tones? Classic Vintage Guitar Amps CRANKED!
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
- What do cranked vintage amps actually sound like? We’re about to find out…
Welcome to the show. What is the overdrive sound of the classic guitar amps in history? Well, we have three such beasts today to plug in and find out.
The amps are…
• 1956 5E6 Fender Bassman www.atbguitars.com/
• 1961 Vox AC30 Top Boost
• 1974 Marshall Super Bass 100 overdriveguitars.com/
Needless to say, there are NO PEDALS in the first part of the video, only a Three2One by TheGigRig to switch between the guitars.
Once we’ve cranked ‘em all to maximum, we then add a few pedals and find out if they’re actually usable in today’s world.
Enjoy the show!
Big thanks to ATB Guitars and Overdrive Guitars for the amp loans!
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Dan’s Board
• Boss TB-2w Tone Bender
• Analogman Beano Boost
• Crowther Audio Hot Cake
• Electro-Harmonix Electric Mistress Flanger Filter Matrix
• Diamond Vibrato
• Echo Fix EF-X3 Chorus Echo
Mick’s Board
• Thorpy Warthog
• Mythos Pedals Argo
• Origin Effects Halcyon
• Jam Pedals Harmonious Monk
• Universal Audio Del-Verb
Interesting bits and go to sections…
0:00 Show preview
1:04 What are we doing today?
2:45 1956 Fender Bassman, Telecaster
4:56 Bassman, Collings 290
7:20 Bassman, Les Paul
9:55 1961 Vox AC30
11:05 AC30, Strat
14:08 AC30, LP (SG) Junior
16:20 AC30, LP (SG) Standard
19:04 Marshall Super Bass 100
20:45 Super Bass, Les Paul Standard
24:24 Super Bass, another cab?
26:11 Super Bass, Strat
27:40 Super Bass, cranked!
30:53 D&M Rigs - AC30 & Super Bass?
33:19 Dan’s reverb and delay choice
35:08 Mick’s reverb and delay choice
37:45 Dan’s modulation choices
39:08 Mick’s modulation choice
41:01 Dan’s gain pedals
45:40 Mick’s gain pedals
47:10 Two sounds from the Argo
51:26 Dan’s rig with humbuckers
54:03 Mick’s rig with humbuckers
Guitars in today’s show
• Fender Custom Shop 1952 Heavy Relic Telecaster - Dan's video • That Pedal Show - Dan'...
• Collings Guitars 290 DCS - Mick's video • That Pedal Show - Our ...
• Gibson Custom True Historic ’57 Les Paul Goldtop. Murphy Aged - no video yet, but it gets played on the channel a lot
• 1961 Fender Stratocaster - Mick’s video here: • Three New Strats For M...
• 1961 Gibson Les Paul (SG Junior) - Dan’s video here • That Pedal Show - Our ...
• 1962 Gibson Les Paul SG - no video yet
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - Dan’s video here: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
• Gibson Custom 1958 Les Paul Standard - Dan’s video here: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
• Gibson Memphis 1958 ES-335 - Mick’s video here: • Gibson Memphis 1958 ES...
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I challenge anyone to name a CZcams show/channel that captures the sound of mic’d tube amps more accurately than That Pedal Show. Gents, on a consistent basis, the audio quality is truly glorious!
Thank you!
THIS!👏👆🙌🙌🙌
Now we need the classic small amps cranked. Champs, and Princetons, and 18w Marshalls, oh my!
Bluesbreakers? That's just a British 2x12 5F6-A Bassman
@@lennybrowntooth5009 yeah, you're correct, I was thinking the old 18w Marshalls, not the Bluesbreaker.
@@lennybrowntooth5009 1974,1958,1973 are all 18w marshall clones of the watkins dominator ,nicknamed baby bluesbreakers,but they sound completely different more chimey ,less bass etc ,they share the same speakers and looks. the 1961 is the closest marshall to a bassman being a 4x10 combo, peter green used one.
Yes please
One of the best sounds I've ever gotten was playing a beat to shit ES-125 downtuned and strung with flatwounds through a CRANKED 1966 Princeton. Unreal sound. Come to think of it, that amp sounded really great with an Epiphone 230T Casino too. Maybe it was just a good amp for P90's.
Isn't the electric guitar just friggen great! Aren't loud amps just so amazing!
Well said
When you consider all the things in both Physics ,Electronics and Acoustics that have to align in order for this to happen ... the lyrics in Mott the Hoople's song "God gave rock and roll to you" seem take on new meaning.
Why are you yelling?! 🙂
@lescaster2179 what?! I'm not selling anything!
@@mattswanton795 😆
when you're that loud that you can hold a note and it goes through its own harmonics you know you're doing something right.
Dan is the reason I own a vox, they should pay him a commission cause I know I’m far from the only one who he converted. Such a fantastic episode.
I have slowly realized my Morgan AC40 Deluxe is my best sounding amp. It has all the Vox flavors, but as a Strat guy that EF86, hit with a germanium booster, is harmonic heaven 🎉. It has power scaling and have a 2x12 w Golds. 🎉. Lucky me!😊
Also Mick please buy that Marshall
🤚🏻Bought a hand wired one cause of him
He should get a commission on Candy Apple Red telecasters too
This show is everything I love about TPS! Killer guitars, killer amps, exceptionally chosen pedals, inspired playing.... and Dan and Mick with smiles galore from all the incredible tones! ❤🔥
Thank you Wes!
@@ThatPedalShow with Mick giggling at Dan's love of "movement" 😆
Your next show on cranked amps could be about those amps that are NOT beloved for their overdriven tones. Maybe a Silverface Twin or a Roland JC120. Why don't they work as well? What do you think?
Love this!
@@ThatPedalShowYes! Do some solid state or less beloved circuits! Let’s hear some chaos!
transistor amps (especially class a/b) always sound their worst near their clipping point .that's why home stereos are usually 100 watts so they can work on 10% -20% volume, the jc has the worst on board distortion ever made and hates drive pedals but loves multi effects. the silverface twin is too clean and bright so the breakup is very late, getting rid of the bright cap and having a high gain tube at v1/v2 helps .
@@subjectt.change6599 I'd say the youtube algorithm would basically cancel their channel if the put the words "solid state" in the title of a video about amps. LOL!
I regret not being in that room, must have been glorious.
Really great video. Loved the real world context in the 2nd half of the video. You were essentially taming the beast. The tones were remarkable. Have a great weekend.
That was a fun watch and listen especially, can't believe how quick an hour went by watching! Thanks guys! I loved that Bassman sound!
These amps, especially the AC30, sound so good being driven the way they were meant to. I know CZcams is not the same as being in the room but still, so good. Thanks for this one!
I was at a small club right in front of the stage recently. 2 guitar players in the band both playing cranked 100W Marshals. I had a few fillings loosen up in my teeth but it was glorious! Wearing ear plugs of course.
I’ve been watching this since the early days. This has got to be up there with your best shows.
Getting the best tones out of the best old tube amps is almost always accomplished by turning the volume to 2pm and turning down the guitar until it's as clean as you need. BB had it right! So much fun every single time.
and BB used solid state Lab Series amps.
@@GCKelloch later on, yes. But check out his 1972 sing sing performance on CZcams for his tones through a proper Fender
That album doesn't sound good
Cool show. I really liked seeing how the different guitars reacted with each amp. Now I’m wanting a guitar with humbuckers! Thanks.
Awesome episode guys. This was really fun playing along with my Katana Go.
Thank you.
4:49 This is a ‘56 Bassman, most likely circuit designation 5E6-A, which was quite different from the 5F6-A from ‘58 that everyone fawns over. Closer to something like a Bandmaster than what it would evolve into.
Anyway, gotta get that Hiwatt going again.
Part 2: Hiwatt, that silver Bassman and the Laney.
I was looking for this comment, sounds like my Tweed Twin same circuit
They also had 12AY7 tubes in V1 which lowers the gain considerably vs Marshalls copy etc. though a healthy fully roaring Bassman (even a 56) should be louder and gainier. Still, a very lovely bit of pushed air.
I was thinking the ‘56 might be too early to get the 100% classic sound. Thanks for the info
@@chrisquinn9104 I have a 5E8-A twin that's essentially the same circuit with a 4 ohm transformer instead of 2 ohm. Definitely does the thing!! Best Fender amp ever made IMO
I'm not even sure I would consider the 5E6-A a "classic"... It's kind of a transitional design. And it's a very different amp than the 5F6-A Bassman that built rock music.
Another wonderful Friday....cup of coffee.....and another GREAT That Pedal Show! Can't get better!!!
What makes me happy is how happy you are playing these amps cranked. Nothing like it to bring out the inner teenage wild man.
I've always been a fan of Vintage Vox amps, and that 61 AC30 is killer, but that Bassman sounded really friggin' good.
Best amp of all time
that Bassman was the weak link. didnt come close to the AC30 & Super Bass.@TheToneLounge
Part 2
Y'all gotta get the Hiwatt out
Y'all gotta get an Orange OR120
Y'all gotta get a high powered tweed twin
❤❤❤
Please get a high powered tweed twin on the show. That would be incredibly interesting.
I second that, Orange and Hiwatt are really underrated. I mean, they're pretty highly rated but don't get the air time they deserve.
Sunn Model T time
I just love listening to you guys play. Such good stuff as always! The look on Dan's face when you first started to turn on the Marshall was priceless. Mick never ceases to show how glorious the Strat can be.
Fantastic video, stellar guitar playing by both of you! I'm in awe! Cheers from France!
Merci beaucoup!
Why is it that regardless of how often I hear a great sounding guitar through a great sounding amp, I never get tired of it?
Rock On!
Best video in ages!! Pushing classic amps to the max... Never heard an AC 30 sound so good in a long time. And when MIck Used the Strat's neck pickup in the Marshall at 26:20....Ahhhhhh! And showing how good modern effects sound with the Amps too. This is the good stuff!
Mick the strat through the AC30 is ace. Stick a treble boost or phaser in front and that's Rory Gallagher country 😎👍
Brilliant vid D&M! True magic!
That AC30 sounds so good! Thank you for doing this.
Legendary episode. Killer job on this one mates!
This was an F'n Awesome episode. Thank you guys, please keep up the brilliant work.
Epic stuff lads. Love your channel, been watching for a few years now, first time commenting. I've got an all original '77 100W Super Lead (non master volume) with matching angled top 4x12 cab (used to have the full stack, but it was just utterly ridiculous, had to sell bottom cab) ... I literally have no way of gigging that thing anymore because sound guys would just laugh at me, it is just insane, loudest amp I have ever heard, but I've owned it for 26 years and won't get rid of it.
Keep up the great work boys!
So I love you guys and adore your videos but due to my day to day and stresses from life I’ve not been keeping up. Me and my partner are having IVF and it’s abit shit and taking all my concentration. This episode has made me present with the guitar world and made so incredibly happy to be a tiny part of your channel. Holy ‘crumbs’ these amps sound incredible. Guilty pleasure the 61 strat thought the super bass. It’s the sound that makes me play guitar when I can
Mick, when you picked up your coffee cup during the Marshall, I half expected it to shatter! Epic show guys!
Hahahah!
So impressive how tight the bottom end stayed on the bassman with the Collings what a sound!
This is why so many of the great Guitarists didn’t use pedals they all got what they needed with the amp and their guitars and understanding which guitar with which amp a lot to learn here .love the show .
There also weren’t many pedals. Maybe a fuzz or an MXR Dist +
I’m 66. In the 70s you had no choice but to crank the amp.
Great show, immense sounds from classic amps and guitars, what could be better ?? 👍🎸😃
THIS!!!!! Playing your deluxe reverb cranked on the experience day was truly cosmic - and this is next level!!!
Interesting that one doesn’t care about the usually requisite reverb when one’s cranking a vintage heroic valve amp!!! Ace chaps. Just ace.
I think you did your defining video. Hugely enjoyable. Thank you very much!
That Strat and AC30 combo is so stellar!
Love my '59 Bassman LTD, but the Strat thru the AC30? Beautiful! 👍👍
I had a few long drives today. I really really enjoyed the background music you guys supplied
Dan's tone on the Bassman was really sweet. I understand you expected it to get a bit dirty (er), for a light touch and the proper piece of music, it was stellar.
Great show guys ! 👍😎👍🎸
What a cool subject 👍 another great video guys🙏
44:40 The point regarding a natural progression of drives rather than a left field, distinctly different on/of distortion - was really exciting to hear. That’s everything I strive for in a pedalboard. Great stuff today, guys.
😮😮😮 pumped for this one gents - there is nothing like that power in the room and at your finger tips 🥰
A love these videos! Great work folks! Crank the Benson!
haven’t even started watching yet but i know how much im gonna enjoy this one, cream
Has to be the first time ever I preferred the Marshell over a Fender, and that Vox was lovely. Been in a tired funk lately and this video had me playing for an hour straight. Thanks for that it was much needed.
Mick + Strat + Cranked AC30. Just whaaaa 😻😻
I have an AC 15 that I just cant get excited about the cranked sound. Too trebily no bottom with a strat
Love how everything was showcased here. Amps, guitars and pedals. 👌
I've grown to really appreciate outdoor gigs because I often use an ac15c1 that can be a little too much in a pub gig but becomes too crunchy and small in an outdoor space- I've been bringing an ac30s1 (single 12 instead of dual speaker) and that thing never gives up.. when the power amp starts to overdrive it's just the most glorious textured sound.. the ac30 in this episode brought me back to that. The clean up dynamic is fantastic, my only issue is certain pronounced mids that can get overboard.. I love the more neutral sound of a fender there.. but can't beat the ac30 in monstrous big power chord saturation.. love it to my core.
That ‘61 Junior with the P 90 sounded glorious through the cranked AC 30!! Holy crap that was superb!
WOW this show was like a perfect eargasm of tone. Love me some cranked amps 🤩🔥🤘
Tweed magic! Love the volume rolled back a bit, and how dynamic and bright these open circuits stay. Really rewards touch, working the volume.
If you have the headroom in the amp, there are so many shades of gain. Of course there’s the edge of cave in…but amazing!
Great video guys 🤩
fantastic show😎
Great show, and woah, Mick’s playing Strat-Vox was amazing, dare I say it, better than sometimes on the sho, as unencumbered by those silly pedal thingys? 😂
Hahaha! Yes!
cool. i started myself playing the amp crancked on maximum all the time, adjusting the distortion with the Volume knob on the guitar.
Good day to you fine gentlemen!!! What a phenomenal episode as per usual.
Super stuff here and the amps themselves are killer, but Danny Bhoy, that Beano boost on its own was the absolute show stealer.
Unfathomably good.
Great show and tones! I wish I could turn my AC30 to max at gigs, but sound guys would kick me out of the bar, venue and club. Loud is good!
Killer episode legends, amazing the tones coming out of the super bass, can't believe it
Half-through, my takeaways are that turning down the volume on the guitar makes more sense when the amp is shaking the floor, and that the two of you seem very happy.
Check. Check. :0)
Man. I have to do an experience day when I get overseas. That looked like too much fun!
Nice to see the HM1 featured. After the HM2 came out, I didn't expect to see the HM1 here again.
(I notice it's all at 2 o'clock, just like the picture on the package it comes in.)
I know this show was focused on amps-and it was absolutely glorious-but my focus kept drifting to the finish on the Strat . . . It has the most wonderful soft shine, just wow.
spent a day in the studio today using a 71 Plexi, Motherload, 335 and Strat. Glorious doesnt come close!!!!!
Mmmmmmmmm
I’m so excited to watch this tonight on my big screen and listening loud with my soundbar! Just thought I’d let you know 😊 For the algorithm!! 😂
For me, these are some of, if not the best tones you've ever had on the channel. Biased as an old amp junkie myself, but there's just nothing else like it!
Wonderful Sounds and faces pulled - see you in Teignmouth next week Mick :)
See you there Rob! Can’t promise any cranked Super Basses… but the tones should be pretty good nonetheless!
That earlier version is quite different from the bassman we all think of when we think tweed bassman, but still great!
Hell YES! Finally watching this been waiting for the chance to run it through the hifi at volume! Makes me wonder if you guys would ever consider making the high res bounces of the audio files from these eps available…
We talk about. I’m genuinely interested to know if anyone notices much difference. We should try it!
Amazing video mates! I'll have to give the nod to my '72 Ampeg 60w V2 head into the tall, ported V4 cabinet. 7027 RCA valve goodness, louder than you can stand at 40% volume.
The Strat into the AC30 got me! And all along I thought I was a Fender Deluxe Reverb person! Or may be I just need BOTH, AND a padded room, oh, I meant sound proofed LOL. Thank you, gentlemen.
💖🕊️🤘
I feel the Vox just made every guitar sound special. The strat vox combo was very Rory Gallagher ❤
Mick's trousers are sparkling fabulously!
I dimed my Deluxe Reverb last night and it was glorious. Starts breaking up at around 5 and after that it’s just amazing chaos.
Overdrive pedals and cranked amps is every electric guitar players fun time!! I’m finally happy with my rig. All the elements are where I like them. ….. I still bought an overdrive pedal today, just to have fun and enjoy a new sound! For me the skill is in knowing what YOU need. After you master that, everything else is just for fun!
My friend Chris has a Marshall Origin 2x12 cab. We are going to run my Supro Delta King 12 into it. I am hoping for awesome loud sounds . Love this episode! Loud guitars just hit the spot sometimes.
That lick Dan made right before Mick turned the Marshall off. The way you played with the feedback, it was amazing. What an incredible tone👏👌🤘
Greetings from Portugal, keep going strong with the content. Thank you🤘
I'm referring to the moment that begins in the minute 23:50
Thanks Pedro 🤓🙏
the Marshall feeding back at 57:00 is glorious. dont see a lot of bands doing that - i need to see more :)
Very few people do it now because it’s impossible with in-ears and low stage volume. And all those glorious harmonics and overtones that are generated by acoustic proximity… are just gone.
It’s one of the reasons anyone who actually gives a shit about rock n roll should refuse silent stages.
Now it’s okay to not give a shit about rock n roll of course. Music has to move on.
But. R’n’R does not exist without volume and loud guitar amps.
Couldn't afford my dream amp , a Fender Bassman just like yours (it sounded beautiful ❤) , so i brought the Fender Deville 1996 and i really love it including the overdrive and the reverb to me it sounds beautiful Contrary to many people thoughts.
That Vox sounded killer and that Gibson SG is ❤
I have new neighbours since a week ago , most days they have their music loud playing disco electronic music style then suddenly their music evaporates from the space 😂 as i crank up my Fender Deville 💪 and i think to myself to my neighbours welcome to the neighbourhood 😇
Lovely bunch of amps and cool sounds this episode, cheers guys!
The only thing I was missing from the part where you turned the amps up was bringing in the bright channel on the Marshall, which would've probably given you the amount of drive you thought was a bit strange not happening while also making it less bloated sounding.
A great watch, nonetheless!
It was in the normal channel. No brite channel in this one. The other channel is duller.
@@ThatPedalShow Ah, I see. The more you know!
Cheers Mick!
dear lord the Marshall on TWO hit 107db?! The 70s were a wild time huh.
Awesome. I think we all have a personal, genre specific reference tone for a 'perfect' guitar tone. To me it was/is my old 68' JMP50 through 'fane power tone 60w' with a SG/P90 because of Brian Baker (Bad Religion amongst others) and Johnny 2-bags (Social Distortion). Thank you so much for conducting this 'scientific experiment'😊 love it❤
So much fun!
Boy I loved all this - yeah that Baseman didn't do it's thing .. guess they are all different - Marshall into a 2x10! Who'd have thunk it? -- genius --- as usual for me, Dan's VOX setup at the end was just incredible - thank you very much
You can hear the vox making ghost notes! And The bassman and the tele sounded phenomenal.
Thanks for yet another inspiring and educational episode guys. You are simply the best! Better than all... 🤩 What I would love to see, is Mick Taylor, from the Blues Implosion (what a great band name) testing a Blackface Fender Twin 65 RI (because I believe it's more stable than a vintage one) with a Matt Schofield inspired board. Get a Supreme or a Royal Blue from Mad Professor as the main Overdrive for the Strat, a Sweet Honey Overdrive for the humbuckers and your favourite wobbly, delay and reverb. I wonder if the choice of overdrive and boost we saw today is too fiddly and have too many choices. My two cents is that you don't wanna bend down to adjust a pedal in the middle of a gig. In fairness it's also marginal what is to be gained from that (pun not intended). I bet that would also work wonders with the Two Rock. The Marshall sounded great, but I'm not convinced it is THE tone. And I really hope to be able to attend one of your gigs no matter what amp and board. I just love your playing man. All the best from Norway! Cheers.
Mick. The AC30 brings out some different playing from you. Sounds awesome.
I'm still hoping to hear a TPS album!?!?!?!?!? Gentlemen your guitar playing makes the soundtrack to my every day. I don't think you realize how much cool music you turn out every month. Pool it all together to a "TPS Soundtrack" ......I'm ready to buy the cd!!!! Great shows !! Thanks for them !
Yeah man, had my hands on a 68 Bassman 100 watt head for a while. That was a thing of beauty.
Glorious! Lovely episode.
STRINGS Y'all outta strings on the site. I'm almost out!
Respect! I don't know how you guys could do that? I had a 1964 Vox ac30 and if I played it 'full pelt' it was so loud I started to get scared!!! hahaha!
Dude I have multiple AC30's and I run them both cranked and with my 335 I can literally FEEL the air coming from the F Holes on the guitar and it actually tickles my arm. It is absolutely AMAZING! LOL!
@@SimpleManGuitars1973 Oooofttt!!!
I know you guys don't really get into things like the OX that much, but I've been using one in a small studio where cranked mic'd amps aren't always an option and it has allowed me to crank my Magic Brit MK2 AC15 style amp for the drive tones. It's worked out pretty well. Subectively better than a lower volume amp combined with pedal drive for what I was after. I've been perfectly happy with drive pedals into a cleaner amp in the live situation. It's all song and scenario based of course.
You can always tell there are some amazing sounds being conceived when Dan and Mick both smile and giggle like school boys😂 what a luxury to be able to crank those badass amps up all the way!!! Best electric guitar gear show on the internet 🤘🏼
My Jr is my favourite guitar for just playing on. I never "widdle" on it, I just get a lovely sound dialed in and let it ring.
Vintage iron, vintage iron!! I’ve been repairing mostly vintage amps for 2 years and I’m totally hooked! Listen to TAVA with Bryan from Soursound as a guest. It gets super nerdy into vintage iron. It’s not the only thing that makes vintage amps great but it’s a big part of it
Turning electricity thru tube wizardry to glorious racket. LOVING IT!
A tube amp cranked and pushing air is just an awesome thing to behold.