Compression Driver Review --- RCF ND-850 1.4 with ES-600 Biradial Horn
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- I test my newly acquired RCF ND-850 1.4 compression driver with my ES-600 Biradial Horn. I conduct a full set of measurements plus my own listening impressions. I then modify the driver to deal with some resonance above 10kHz. The ES-600 Biradial shown in the video is one of my first prototype horns for my own testing. I make this horn along with other sizes in my workshop using my CNC machine. I sell these horns along with other products on my website which can be found here. I am not commercially affiliated with RCF however it's in my interest to find drivers that are suitable with my horns for audiophile applications. Thanks.
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Another video awesome! Nothing but thumbs up from us 👍👍 👍 👍 I'm grateful for the juicy info again, thanks for sharing and tweaking/testing drivers. Brilliant!
Excellent content for the music loving DIYer.
Thanks for the review. Love your designs. Time to move on to designing a flat pack 3-way 80-18kHz Synergy horn now, Joseph :)
This is really awesome. Your channel really needs more views!
With an abrasive paper, rub carefuly the inside of the kapton coil former, until the kapton is thin enough. but do not rub the diaphragm.
you will notice higher eff in less watts.
Very cool to see the CSD differences.. Have you tried the Radian Be drivers? Or even the 18sound Be ones? Sad about Fostex stopping production..
Clicked because I'm wearing those headphones on your desk there 😂 also curious about content of course
I use RCF Compression drivers in PA application and they are great . Now I tried also Italian brand FAITAL PRO in My opinion they bit better in 10 -20 kHz.
you just solved an issue with my Ig4T speakers. the one had some strange distortion, a sine tone sounded fine, but when playing el piano some tones sounded distorted in the one speaker, in the lower end of its working area, but a small pease of sok (what i had) solved the problem :) thanks
I am a speaker novice. I am an instrumentalest that can hear a qaulity speaker which is how I found RCF. I was curious if assuming the build construction and design of the cabinet and woofer were of sound/quality design would a larger compression driver (3 or 4 inches) in a 2 way 12 or 15 inch speaker increase the overall performance of the system when paired with a sub?
Or would pairing a speaker with a smaller compression driver and a Sub achieve the same result?
For example: RCF Art 932 vs. the RCF Art 912
Lovely vid there dude!!! Xx
Hi Joseph. I am just curious…Why is it that the wrap around curvature is applied to the horizontal profile of the horn, but not the vertical?
The guys who started 18sound came directly from RCF. That was back in -98 if i remember correctly.
Today everything is different, thise guys aren’t there anymore and i think one of them in the R&D is now with B&C (atleast i saw a photo recently of that) and also B&C bought 18Sound.
I believe RCF are doing very good stuff today, as always. I use their L15P400 and thinking of trying ND950 or 850.
Thanx Joseph for you detailed videos.
I’m the guy btw that runs SB Acoustics Loudspeaker fans on Facebook🙂
Great to know! The L15P400 is a great driver.
The ND850 is great from 600Hz-10kHz. Much better than any vintage compression drivers.
So the heading say ND-850 but you speak about the ND-840!? 850 is expensive but 840 can be found for 216€. Also would like to know do you really hear 15k-20k. As I don't hear more than 13k it would have been interested to see if it would have been possible to rectify the 10k resonance with some stiffer foam.
More treble EQ boost and you will get there. :P
My Meyer driver came with preglued foam. I removed most of it.
You can use a piece of 3M surgical tape like the foam I think the foam will move with time I was wondering can you get carbon fibre diaphragms have not heard of any
John sweda Carbon composite will be tested shortly with the ES-290 using JBL 2446J compression driver. Thx.
@@JosephCrowesDIYSpeakerBuilding who's making the the carbon fibre diaphragms then JBL other makes,
@@johnsweda2999 My colleague makes them which are just prototypes however he has the manufacturing capacity to make them commercially. His company specializes in high performance composites.
@@JosephCrowesDIYSpeakerBuilding right can he do extraction on the carbon fibre so you get a double skin affect, with an foam layer in between I am talking micron distances between the two layers nothing big probably the width of a hair. Or even making the diaphragm honeycomb shaped is the best shape, individual honeycombs to form the shape less material is needed and is stiffer, could be achieved through a vacuum, by just milling the Honeycomb in the block of aluminium the shape you need of diaphragm, not sure which is better both sides honeycomb shape or just the one side something to experiment on
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Is this the same as Textreme from Oxeon? Very new material...
have tryed faital pro, b&c or beyma?
I've tried B&C mostly about six different models. The RCF is a step up from B&C although more money but well worth the extra cost.
@@JosephCrowesDIYSpeakerBuilding I know. it`s true.
I have both of them. RCF is a gear up more.
Try 18SOUND too.
It`s better than RCF
I intend on trying 18sound. The titanium nitride looks promising.
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My dear friend try beyma .CD & u will forget all
Have you done this blind?
What do you mean?
@@JosephCrowesDIYSpeakerBuilding Confirmed that the measured improvements are possible to detect in blind tests?
Using beyma cp755ti for home hifi & it's wonderful
@paul best While I'm all in for improved measurements, if it's not detected, it's an over engineered procedure...
I've had better results with 18Sound 1" drivers on CD waveguides than bi-radials.