The Vienna Game | Chess Openings Explained
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- Nick Risko teaches all about the Vienna Game in chess, 1.e4 e5 2.Nc3. See how to continue, including how to handle the Vienna Gambit.
2021.02.08
C26 Vienna, Falkbeer variation
C25 Vienna game, Max Lange defence
C25 Vienna, Paulsen variation
C29 Vienna gambit, Paulsen attack
1:32 vienna gambit taken but missplayed by white
4:02 gambit taken and well played by white
4:59 punishing defending the e5 pawn
7:05 black correctly give up the e5 pawn
9:22 Nc6 copy cat variation
16:05 3.Bc4 d6
16:54 3.Bc4 Nf6
18:44 3. Bc4 Nf6 4.d3 Bc5
21:10 interesting middlegame tactic after Bg4
24:53 Ng4
26.43 promising position for black!
27:40 3. g3 (fight over d5 square)
28:48 Black saved his bishop pair
30:13 3. f4
30:44 2. ... d6
31:44 vienna gambit denied. D6 defending the pawn
32:17 vienna gambit denied. Nc6 defending the pawn
33:20 vienna gambit denied. Bd6 defending the pawn
34:18 vienna gambit denied correctly
35:08 correct play follow up Nc6
38:36 correct play follow up f5
41:12 correct play follow up Nxc3
44:01 draw by repetition
Absolute legend for this lad
This.
legend cheers!!
Absolute legend. This should be pinned or added to the description.
GG
finally an opening video at a pace I can actually take information in
I needed this... as a 900 rated player, I’ve chosen the Vienna as my opening for white. I appreciate this upload. Lol
Nice that'll put people way outta your comfort zone especially at the low level
I like the Italian or the English. London is cool too. Black is always Sicilian or Nimzo
Gotham Viewer?
same
I still play the Vienna at 1600-1700 exclusively - offers tricky lines, gambits and is a bit more aggressive than the London.
This guy obviously did his homework and preparation for the lecture seriously. Once again proof that you don't need a high rating to be a good teacher. Nice flow to the presentation and delivery. Good job dude!
what a backhanded compliment, need to work on your social skills buddy
@@Hebii69It’s literally not backhanded
@@Hebii69 Spoken like a true 800.
@@benjaminsmythe8967 looks like magnus carlsen is in the chats
The opening music for these videos is so funny, it sounds like some hard rap beat is about to begin and then it's just a dude teaching chess
Yeah. It's an old music intro, so it sounds cool back in 2013.
I love the Vienna game. Makes for so many interesting positions and most players don't know what to do.
Yep
Yeah it works brilliantly at my level, around 1100 elo, because I know all the lines fairly well but my opponents usually don't which always gives me an advantage.
@@ddandymann i am one of them lol… that’s why i’m here
@@ddandymann it works really well even in 1800+ but in copycat variation you might wanna learn what to play if opponent doesn't play Qf6
Beautifully explained Nick. Loved watching this!
I love this tutorial! It's been hard to find an openings video that explained things not like a Chess 100% glitchless speedrun, but rather a well-explained walkthrough. I've learnt a lot of the Vienna Opening with this and can recite up to like move 29 of a branch of this theory. Thanks a lot!
Excellent job-well done Nick!
Mr Risko, you just make my evening much much much more enjoyable ! From the start to the finish, A +++
Fantastic analysis. Nice and thorough.
Thanks. I love playing the Vienna. Great posting.
That was super helpful, much thanks. I've been plateaued in the 1100s for a while now and looking to understand some other openings besides my routine Ruy Lopez, so this is helping me branch out and hopefully rank up.
This was so in depth! Thank you so much
Great video, you really stepped up my Vienna Game!
My friend, that was a very instructive dive into the Vienna. No picking out the most obscure lines, no clickbait. Just real-world-applicable positions and their best moves.
Thank you kindly for uploading it. Oh, and your name sounds like an 80s action movie B-lister. :)))) Love it!
Very clear and thoughtful presentation! Thanks
Really enjoyed this!
Gracias homie. This is amazing and you’re the only one who did it. Good work bro.
In the line where black accepts the gambit (a deep error), we should look at Qe7 instead of Ng8 initially. It’s a bad move but white can punish it immediately with Qe2, Ng8, Nf3, d6?? and Nd5! Wins on the spot! So black can lose realistically lose in the Vienna gambit after 6 moves. Also in the copycat variation black can play Nd4 after Qg4, which after Qxg7, Qf6 and black isn’t so bad here.
Thanks for mentioning these lines! Definitely forgot to put those in as their own items.
@@nicholasrisko2465 you’re welcome and that line comes up at lower and intermediate level chess fairly often. d6 seems natural but Nd5 comes like a sledgehammer!
In the copycat variation, ...Nd4 definitely needs analysis. Fritz 11 doesn't even mention it (maybe newer releases of Fritz do) but it's not a move to ignore, if nothing else it is a psychologically clever reply to Qg4 by White.
@@stevemansfield8530 surely after 4. Qg4 Nd4 you blunder a pawn after Qxg7 Qf6 Qxf6+ Nxf6 then Bd3 which defends the pawn?
If black tries to fork the king and rook and greedily take the rook there’s Qxf7#
@@rebeccamasse1557 That’s perhaps the most beautiful line in the Vienna gambit imo. After …d6. Nd5, Qd8, you can even «sac» the knight, forking the king and the queen. Queen can’t take because you take on d6 with a discovered check, and the pawn also covers e7, so black loses the queen. Or you can just win the rook by taking on d6 before you jump in with the knight.
Excellent explanation - thanks very much
thank you alot for this great lesson! :) I love playing the vienna
it's amazing how one seemingly small move can change the entire game
Great topic and lecture!
Such a great guide!
As a beginner I'm really interested in how to play against Andersen's defence, which is
1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Bc5
i know this is really late but you can make a chessable account and take the “short and sweet vienna game” course that goes over all the main lines
Best practice against the Anderssen defence continues with Nf3 for white and follow up with Na3 in order to kick the bishop from the diagonal. If the option occurs to take the dark squared bishop you should.
Thank you Nick.
Thank you. No silly jokes. Just serious chess teaching. You are awesome.
whats wrong with silly jokes?
Gotham doesn't make silly jokes 😢
Thanks, man and greetings from Vienna!
13:47 Very easy development for white ( ...and a full rook ;) ).
Great stuff - thank you.
Good analysis thanks
Excellent presentation and discussion. Thank you. I look forward to more of your chess lessons .😇
This is so good classical explanation with master and good classical chess music 🎶 👌👍👍👍
Long well all of you 🙏
Thankyou for the guidance
Keep the good work Saint Louis chess club kudos 🎀 in good luck from India!
the viena game is simply my favorite, Not many play it which makes it a nice surprise in turnaments.
Wow great video thank you!
Thanx a lot fornthis video, a great guide for me as 1400 player.
Amazing video. Thanks for making it :)
Good teaching!!!
Excellent lecture.
Thank You for this walkthrough
I'm 800 Elo and have a friend about the same level who I play with a lot, and he plays 1...e5 probably 90% of the time, and I have tried this opening on him quite a few times since watching this lecture, and won them all, thanks!!
Nice detailed presentation
Steady pacing unlike some CZcamsrs that rush through lines
I win so many games with the Vienna gambit. It’s so good
It’s crazy that 1 opening has this many variations and theory
It's chess
great video, thanks
Me, an 850, here trying not to lose a game in 10 moves
29:44 If black plays Nf6, Bg5 would be a mistake because: Bxf2+ runs into Kxf2, Ng4+, Ke1, Qxg5 and engine gives -2.6.
But great video with in depth explanation, well done.
Extraordinary!!
Thank you
This is interesting opening
What an opening🐐
11:09 i literally had the exact same position BUT it doesn´t win the queen... my opponent put his knight on f6 attacking my queen.. i just took his queen, he took mine and then i recaptured on g4 and was up a full piece.. he resigned regardless.. so thank you very much for this great video
The video was really great and comprehensive! I've been watching it again to keep learning different positions. One position that wasn't covered was 2....f4 by Black, protecting the E5 square. Should this be treated conceptually similar to the 2...d4 opening where White should look for a lead in development? Or is there another continuation which is winning for White.
Your the best teacher on CZcams
I agree
that line that begins around 20:55 when Black plays Ne5 and white sacs the queen is fascinating, I'd love to get that on the board. 2 rooks and 2 bishops vs a bad knight, bad queen and a rook would be a very wild middle/end game
I’ve been playing the London a lot on white but I don’t really enjoy it too much so I’m thinking of switching it up and play the Vienna.
For the Vienna Game, I like F4, Fx4, NF3, G4, BC4, G5, 0-0, Fx3, Qx3. White is down material but has an amazing position
That does not make sense.
Im 1500 Viena and Rousseau gambits are the love of my life. But lately i started to get opponents which actually know what they are doing so i came to review the lines
17:00 probably also important to note that Nf3 in this position runs into Nxe4, and if white plays Nxe4 there's d5 forking the bishop and knight. Doesn't win for black but gives them a slight edge. People at the 1500 level still fall into this
Great breakdown!
After playing the Vienna Gambit and they play pawn to D5 and you both take pawns.. I've heard play queen to F3 before as well but I still don't really understand it.. Especially since even if knight takes knight on c3 the engine recommends taking back with a pawn anyways
Well I guess if they play pawn to d4 attacking your knight you could then just take their knight rather than moving your own knight.. Maybe that's part of it?
@@liljackypaper A bit late, I know, but from what I gather the idea behind Qf3 is to put pressure onto black with an attack plan to avoid ending up in a position where black has 10 different moves that are all viable and hard to prepare for. It also gives white an easier plan of attack, which helps players that are not as refined in positional play or prefer attacking style chess
The idea is to put immediate pressure on f7. And if black castles short, you often slide your queen one square over to g3, x-raying the king, aiming for a quick attack.
Nice 👍 choice
Sir, can you point to videos where you explain openings with the c3 knight after black has moved only one square up?
nice
At 30:25, 4...f5? is very strange, when 5. exf5 has to favor White. Surely 4...g5 was intended.
21:56 there is a very interesting situation there. If Black doesn't capture the knight with the rook, instead moves the queen to e7, computer evaluation shows +2.2. However, the only moves that don't send the evaluation into negative territory are discovered check, then come back with the knight and repeat, basically resulting in a draw! How does White win from that position?
I'm also the same rating now wanting to learn the opening how did it turn out
I love how you broke down both sides, several options, just everything about your presentation. Almost every video I watched so far goes from white's perspective only and ignores the possibility of you ever having to defend.
@24:23 why is Rd2 worse then the suggested Rb1? Rd2 protects the b2 pawn the same and preps white for Rb6 (pinning black’s knight if black went b6).
I’m sure I’m missing something but I don’t see it.
My guess is to prevent Ra1+. Might not want to allow the rook to harass your bishop/pawns from behind? But looks completely fine to me.
oh my god, another hot chess nerd, SLCC is really hiring the finest of them
In the Vienna Gambit, you looked only at lines if black plays Qf6 after white Qg4.
What does white do when black plays g6? That's the move I encounter most.
This is my favorite opening, even more so that people accept the Vienna Gambit and I have made a massive in-depth lichess study for the Vienna Game
Could you link the study pls? Would be very helpful
@@prathmeshmehrotra634 Still discovering new lines and adding on bit by bit.
@@nopeyt3387 can you link it now please?
Please Can you give us the link of the study sir?
Could you please link the study?
This opening makes me wanna talk about a parents love in an orphanage
13:16 what will I do if black decide to retake with the knight on c6?
oh nvm, then Qf7 checkmate
at 25:33 what if the knight forks the queen and the rook?
Omg can I please redo yall's music
*sigh* no one develops their peices when i pin the pawn they just unpin it with the queen
Good. Then you can simply take it since there is no longer the threat of u development. If you queens after you take the pawn, take with your bishop
Are you talking about d4 dxe5 Qe2 Qe7 in the accepted line? Just play Nd5 and the queen has to defend the fork and the e pawn and you’re up a lot
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its amazing how i can watch this at 2x speed and absorb all the info still.
I haven't watched the video till the end when writing this but in the copycat variation black usually plays g6 after after Q move. And it's unclear why it is bad in this case
FYI, I'm a 1,200 rated player with very little opening experience. Here's my input.
2:05 - This needs a little more weight. You aren't just developing normally, this is an absolutely crucial knight move to cover Qh4#. If you make absolutely any other move, you're suddenly in a horrible position.
6:50 - The only thing I've come across not covered is Qe7 to defend the pawn. The best move against this is to move the knight up to Nd5, attacking the queen and threatening the classic fork on C6. After Qd6 (only move), you take the pawn with your queen, force a queen trade, and black has to move his king manually out of check to avoid the fork.
16:00 - I've played the copycat a few times. Just remember that if they respond with Nf6 to attack your queen, giving up the pawn and letting you capture, THEN capturing the knight you put on D5, you need to remain VERY careful of the bishop protecting against checkmate, as well as protecting the G2 pawn. This is overwhelmingly winning for white, as long as you DO NOT take the knight with your E4 pawn. After scooping the free rook, you need to bring the queen back (with Qg8 to prevent a queen trade that allows him to save the knight) to diffuse the checkmate, protect your rook, and liquidate pieces. If they pressure your bishop in any way, you'll immediately lose the game, and if they take the G2 pawn you will lose your rook and probably the game.
(I'll update this for my own sake as I make my way through the video)
@BlueScreen In the queen trade? Your queen.
You attack it with the knight but don't take it as he'll move
@BlueScreen Ahhh
Knight isn't BAD, but pawn is better. That's so you can jump your knight forward next turn to threaten a knight-rook fork both ways. You'll be immediately threatening a fork after the queen trade so black will have to prevent it, and when you can jump your OTHER knight forward threatening a fork the other way, and his only defense is to move his knight to the rim to guard against it which is obviously good for white.
Why not Bd4 discovered check and win the queen after? instead of bishop takes g7+?
Queen blocks the check on e6
3:13 Why didn't the knight on f3 take the pawn on e5, instead of taking it with d4 pawn
at 6:35 maybe Bishop D4 was better move no?
3:02 is this not a missed opportunity to bishop b5 if they pawn to c6 bishop to c4 then most times I see pawn takes on e5 push pawn to d4 against almost always they take on d4 then bishop takes f4 of they're greedy and take knight on c3 bishop to e7 check if they take with king bye bye queeny if not you still have a ton of options including putting queen on e file moving knight up and discovery check while putting queeny in danger with knight and again bye bye queeny?
23:20 if they don't move their king, Rf5 but they would probably move their king because its a sensible move
Wow didn't know Morata could play chess!!
6:40 can't the bishop go to d4 to win the queen?
6:12 why is queen to e5 not an option here?
Edit: now that I look at it again its probably cause the other option is much better
@2:00 What if black plays Qe7 pinning the pawn. I'm around 1300 and my opponents keep playing this.
at 6:30, why not Q - h4 ch? if p - g3, Q - e7, Same for B - g3 Dis. ch., Q -e7.
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Vienna Game (Positional Variation)- 27:30
25:30 why don't you take with the knight? It would make a fork with the Queen and the rook. Knight can't be taken because of the bishop
Ps. Thanks for the video, it's extremely useful!!! You explore a lot of variants 😊
@37:15' "this position should be fairly equal".
You gotta be joking: White is a pawn down, and that passed & extra e4 pawn is extremely dangerous.
And of course instead of the mechanical 18...0-0 Black can simply play 18...Rf8 and keep his king centralized, which looks like being close to winning. The generic concept is allowing one white rook on the seventh, centralize the king further and create an unstoppable pawn duo by ...g5 and ...f4.
Instead of 10.Be3?! white can play 10.Ne2 which is a better move, although I do not think white can claim an advantage.
25:28 why black doesn't play knight to f2? Can someone explain?
Qa5
@litfire9392
@@ShortSavvy13 ty
Started using Vienna at 900 jumped straight to 1100
What elo rating range is the Vienna good against? Like obviously it's good against low rated players..but is it good in the 1700-1900 range?
It is a good opening for intermediate players and players of all ratings
According to what I’ve read it’s good at all levels except master level
Hikaru plays it in blitz sometimes. Even played it in the Rapid tiebreaks against Wesley So in the latest Fide Grand Prix (although Wesley got a completely winning position very fast lol). So it’s good at all levels, really.
Open chessbasd... many gm's Played it
6:34 Or you could do Bxc7+ And then next move Bxb6 to get you a queen
Because then black just play Qe6 and white won't be able to get the queen
@@Inbarv152Oh right! Thanks.
Why he took the rock and pawn istead of the queen
If they accept the gambit, after they retreat their knight, i play knight f3, then they play pawn g5. What do i do about that?
There is a line called the muzio double gambit look into it
@@Amoeba_Podre thank you ill give it a look!
Could do a simple h2 move to defend g4
You play 6. d4 and if 6...g4 then 7. Bc4. It is not a good opening for players that are not prepared to play dynamically.