Z-CAM E2C - The ultimate budget cine camera? iPhone control? Lok investigates

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  • The new Z-cam E2C is a low cost iPhone controlled cinema camera with a M4/3 sensor and the ability to shoot cinematic images. But how good is it? Lok finds our for us.
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Komentáře • 94

  • @Middlestepofficial
    @Middlestepofficial Před 5 lety +15

    I don't understand how people constantly complain about autofocus, tracking etc. This camera is intended for cinematographers specially and people who use manual focus with cine lenses not vloggers or youtubers. For comparison, the Z-Cam 8K camera records in 8K, has a 4K in 120 FPS, 12 and 14 bit RAW internal, for a same price you get as the Panasonic S1H, that doesn't come even close to that.

    • @TheLokCheung
      @TheLokCheung Před 4 lety +6

      At least I'm not complaining about AF, I simply can't just skip it as a review. I don't expect AF to be good, if it was good it would be a pleasant surprise!

    • @Middlestepofficial
      @Middlestepofficial Před 4 lety

      @@TheLokCheung Absolutely! Your review is completely honest and depicts the reality and what one should expect from the camera. In any case, keep up the good work with the superb reviews 👍

  • @xray111xxx
    @xray111xxx Před 3 lety +4

    $800.00 starting price folks. You need much more stuff beyond to make the system really work for you. This competes with the newly made Panasonic Box camera just introduced. Always good to see you Lok. i am still blown away how you have the same shirt after all these years. Always followed since Digital Rev. You and Kai. You guys are a riot!

  • @JanChoc
    @JanChoc Před 5 lety +11

    Finally a real world review for this camera! Thank you, the price is really huge deal and that's great for upgrading from shooting videos on old dslrs.

  • @derrekrichardson4862
    @derrekrichardson4862 Před 5 lety +16

    It has been hard to find info about the e2c. Thank you! I learned a lot.

  • @seuqram0145
    @seuqram0145 Před 4 lety +6

    @8:55 yo was about to get jacked.

  • @samgphoto
    @samgphoto Před 4 lety +5

    It's Lok from Drev TV! I use to watch those vids all the time! Hey Lok how Alambi and Kai doing these days?

  • @markhou
    @markhou Před 5 lety +12

    Plus you don't need a gimbal if you have lok's hands 👐

  • @metamuhamudnoah2856
    @metamuhamudnoah2856 Před 4 lety +1

    This review is the best of all the reviews i have come across

  • @STUDIO-514
    @STUDIO-514 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank God finally someone Reviewed this!! been looking everywhere for Z-cam E2C review!!! Thanks Lok

  • @_rhapsodist
    @_rhapsodist Před 5 lety +40

    8:55 watch out for thieves Lok

    • @TheLokCheung
      @TheLokCheung Před 5 lety +9

      No worries, all my stuffs were in front of me

    • @user-yv2cz8oj1k
      @user-yv2cz8oj1k Před 4 lety

      Why, it's the middle of London. As long as you keep your wits about you there isn't an issue. It's it because he has dark skin? Are you a racist? 🤣 I suspect he was just wanting to get on the internet with Lok.

  • @ItsJustTedd
    @ItsJustTedd Před 5 lety +5

    Thanks for this! I wonder why there aren't more people talking about this camera?

  • @focuspulling
    @focuspulling Před 5 lety +4

    At around 5:55 the video incorrectly claims that the Remote port facilitates control of aperture, shutter speed, etc. It does not; it's just a Sony LANC port for start/stop.

  • @EatsTooMuchJam
    @EatsTooMuchJam Před 5 lety +2

    CAF is definitely not super usable on the Z Cam cameras (I have some videos up where I test it with similar results to what you got). For vlogging, what I've been experimenting with lately, and it seems to work really well, is to plug a decent antenna into the camera and use the mobile app with single AF (and then not move around too much). With the mobile app in single AF mode, you can tap to focus and it seems to work really well... and since a decent antenna gives the camera good wifi range, I can usually make it work from around 5m away which is enough for most of what I do. :)

    • @TheLokCheung
      @TheLokCheung Před 5 lety

      I had been trying to use USB-C cable as much as I can, but you're right a lot of time the wifi from it is good enough and it would be so much more convenient!

  • @tumbles9445
    @tumbles9445 Před 5 lety +2

    The terrible AF isn't really a breaking point for me, I don't know one cinema camera that I've used in the past where I left it to the cameras built in AF to do the work. Most of the time, when shooting film I rack focus manually with a focus puller. Still a great camera for this price point especially if you've got M4/3 glass or an adapter already.

  • @raredreamfootage
    @raredreamfootage Před 5 lety +2

    I have the E2 + BMPCC4K. I have to say the BMPCC4K is easier and quicker to use. I think the FPGA method makes it more flexible than ASIC on the E2.

  • @ala-bp9lj
    @ala-bp9lj Před 5 lety +18

    human tracking AF is terrible (unless you've set it up wrong)

    • @ElliotWhitehead
      @ElliotWhitehead Před 4 lety +11

      Dammit, I thought your profile pic was a hair on my screen.

  • @prince-chambers
    @prince-chambers Před 5 lety +1

    It is great that you can get cameras like this at this price point. Great idea with the network port and storage options. Auto focus is not a problem, I wonder would you selfie lot get good focus if you just set aperture to f4-8 and set your focus distance to the length of your arm and then you would have some breathing room with a higher f stop. That's if you have good light or ISO I guess.

  • @rickvestuto
    @rickvestuto Před 4 lety +1

    Please do a video on the difference between the Z cam and the Sigma FP

  • @BigBlobProductions
    @BigBlobProductions Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you so much!!!! I have been looking for a review of this camera!

  • @minigpracing3068
    @minigpracing3068 Před 5 lety +1

    Portkeys monitor is said to control all functions on this camera as well as the other E2 series of cameras.

  • @0311uli
    @0311uli Před 5 lety

    That color corrected shots of the ducks looked beautiful. Interesting cheap cinema camera.

  • @BocarandaPodcast
    @BocarandaPodcast Před 4 lety +9

    2:25 *Your face is out of focus*

  • @yuchenglong672
    @yuchenglong672 Před 4 lety +1

    Though it might not be a very necessary question, Can this Cine Camera take still photos? And how does it perform. Lok :=)

  • @lindsaydickson3096
    @lindsaydickson3096 Před 4 lety +1

    Great review, thanks!

  • @RiceAndRun
    @RiceAndRun Před 5 lety

    I didn’t know Lok Was back !

  • @CoscarelliFan
    @CoscarelliFan Před 4 lety

    Love this review. Thanks! Nice colors and location.

  • @ZJProductionHK
    @ZJProductionHK Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for the review, do u have any suggestion if i wanna buy a budget professional cam? This one is good, but looks a bit too small, plus difficult to control ..

    • @yudela1
      @yudela1 Před 4 lety +2

      Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4k. $1300 for insane features and comes with DaVinci Resolve Studio, which is worth $300 alone.

  • @snipper599
    @snipper599 Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for this...this is very informative. I wish i got this sooner. which cable did you use to connect the camera to the phone and can it connect wireless?

    • @TheLokCheung
      @TheLokCheung Před 4 lety +1

      Simply a USB-C to Lightning cable from Apple. Yes it works with wifi, it comes with a wifi antenna!

  • @rjderama
    @rjderama Před 5 lety +2

    Great video. I wonder why they switched the battery from the Sony to Canon?

  • @randytate
    @randytate Před 4 lety

    I thought your handheld footage looked OK, at least in terms of the Rolling Shutter. It was not too jello-ish. When you demonstrated it with the whip-pans, later in the video, it seemed truly awful. Were the whip-pans played back at the recorded speed - or did you slow it down?

  • @themediaman100
    @themediaman100 Před 4 lety +1

    "It's got a Canon battery which many people have got" Maybe they have, but Canon users don't usually have micro four thirds lenses. Or am I missing something

  • @h00b00
    @h00b00 Před 4 lety +1

    what about wired connectivity with android phones?

  • @MR.BUCK_MAN
    @MR.BUCK_MAN Před 5 lety

    how suitable is this camera for youtube content creator? i am looking to buy one for my youtube channel.

  • @sergioknuf
    @sergioknuf Před rokem

    Does auto focus work with manual lense?
    Desqueeze anamorphic?

  • @AlanShieh
    @AlanShieh Před 4 lety

    What was going on with the wobbling in some of the tripod shots? Was the OIS left on? Maybe a bad interaction with the rolling shutter.
    Can you do a remote focus pull focus with the phone app? How well does that work?

  • @michaelgraham6959
    @michaelgraham6959 Před 4 lety +1

    No photo, can I do screenshots from the video though? This is a need to know

    • @5minutemovies977
      @5minutemovies977 Před 4 lety +1

      You can always grab a still from your footage, whatever your camera is.

  • @nightdonutstudio
    @nightdonutstudio Před 4 lety

    Does the,camera can also charge the iphone at same time when connected?

  • @DOVEDELS
    @DOVEDELS Před 4 lety

    Thanks, really great video! What phone mount are you using here ? Cant find any good with male 1/4 screw and also 360 rotatable.

  • @othoapproto9603
    @othoapproto9603 Před 3 lety

    where can I find this for $800? from a junky in an alley?

  • @hovermotion
    @hovermotion Před 5 lety

    Very nice kit for the money...

  • @mohammedabobakr6549
    @mohammedabobakr6549 Před 4 lety

    I don't know if you know that you're focus is off or not

  • @LE672AJ
    @LE672AJ Před 4 lety

    11:52 Welcome to Trafalgar Square 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🍺😆

  • @mrredtheman
    @mrredtheman Před 4 lety

    06:27 I could get this for this feature alone. Solid and innovative little camera. Great review Lok!!!

  • @TerenceKearns
    @TerenceKearns Před 4 lety

    nice review

  • @suptarotangel
    @suptarotangel Před 4 lety

    I love you ! New sub!!

  • @anastasiaviruch4978
    @anastasiaviruch4978 Před 3 lety +2

    "Just use your phone" who shot video better than this cub???))))

  • @peter.karundeng8841
    @peter.karundeng8841 Před rokem

    what lens can i use on E2C?
    can i even use sony zoom lens on it?

    • @Photogearnews
      @Photogearnews  Před rokem

      I believe there’s an adapter for Sony lenses now yes.

    • @Photogearnews
      @Photogearnews  Před rokem

      The mount is native to MFT on the model shown in the video, but now they do EF, E, PL and some others. It really depends on the model you get.

  • @photovideooz4084
    @photovideooz4084 Před 4 lety +1

    not even 4K 60P, I'd just add couple of hundred to get BMPCC 4K 60P , 2.7K 90P you'd be much happier

  • @mdifilm
    @mdifilm Před 5 lety +1

    this is just like gh5 with AF or maybe worst actually lol

  • @orange42
    @orange42 Před 5 lety +8

    AF, who needs it?

  • @lobaskovdmitry4415
    @lobaskovdmitry4415 Před 5 lety

    Can anybody tell, how is it in comparison to GH5 in picture quality? Those two are close in the price range, and I'm hardly looking for a piece of advice.

    • @LakeHowellDigitalVideo
      @LakeHowellDigitalVideo Před rokem

      It really comes down to stabilization. If you plan to ever film handheld, the GH5 is the only one that can do it. If you need to shoot raw, the Zcam is the only one that can do it.

  • @jhenukumar
    @jhenukumar Před 5 lety +4

    All the time it’s focused on background.

  • @ChrisKoehn
    @ChrisKoehn Před 5 lety +4

    6:07 hahahha!

  • @AidenAidens
    @AidenAidens Před 4 lety

    *4/3 sensor not MFT

  • @emiliomurillo20
    @emiliomurillo20 Před 4 lety

    cool, way better than the fs 100 that took all my money

  • @captainawasome8985
    @captainawasome8985 Před 5 lety

    Make it full frame!

  • @RAPPEDUP
    @RAPPEDUP Před 4 lety +1

    I love this guy ..just a pitty i cant hear 1 third of what he says 😂

  • @meninjey
    @meninjey Před 4 lety +1

    GREAT DESIGN, SHIT CAMERA.
    I'm waiting for a BMPCC with ZCAM design!

  • @CYLok
    @CYLok Před 4 lety

    The autofocus is off....

  • @robertluxamafreethinker
    @robertluxamafreethinker Před 11 měsíci

    It would be a great Camera, if the price was under $500. But at $800, there are so many better options on the market.
    11 Stop of Dynamic Range is not really good, 2.3x crop is bad, no dual native iso 640 and 2500 is other bad point in the price range. It's an expensive vídeo Camera, because at this price what is offer is not good enough for video and at the other hand it doesn't have any photo capability like the other Hybride Camera in this price range as good or Even better for video.
    It's would be a Nice or great Camera, if at this price range they would offer the best on the market Level for the price. But is not really the case.
    Maybe an upgrade Z-Cam E2C M2 at the same price, but with better boby, sensor, processor, specs and with More Mount Opción like Fuji X or Sony E, would a Beast!! Best saler!
    With full sensor 4k up to 60p.
    Better Rollins shuter.
    Dual native ISO 640 & 2500.
    13 stop dynamic range.
    16 stop HDR video more.
    Full HD 120 or 2.5k 120p full Sensor.
    SD and SSD recording.
    A Sony battery and a better one.
    The Option to Choose between MFT ou X-Mount Fuji or Sony.
    Everyboby would buy one, for the price and posibility it would offer compare to the price range competitors Hybride Camera.

  • @c0pyimitati0n
    @c0pyimitati0n Před 4 lety

    How is the video latency when using your phone as a monitor??
    I have a 5d MK IV and the Canon app has EXTREME latency issues.

  • @user-yv2cz8oj1k
    @user-yv2cz8oj1k Před 4 lety +1

    I don't see how it's actually worth $800... Squirrel footage... Take my money! 🤣

  • @metamuhamudnoah2856
    @metamuhamudnoah2856 Před 4 lety

    oh men that black yellow red is my Country flag.

  • @patli778
    @patli778 Před 4 lety

    u r not in focus tho

  • @catnamestaken
    @catnamestaken Před 5 lety

    Hmm

  • @eyrieproduction172
    @eyrieproduction172 Před 4 lety

    Overpowering magenta and blue.

  • @AgentBlackCrow
    @AgentBlackCrow Před 5 lety

    I thought this channel died!

  • @PremierReviewer
    @PremierReviewer Před 5 lety

    Yes Lok is a FE
    welcome to the truth 🗺

  • @TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss
    @TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss Před 4 lety +1

    Literally out of focus the entire video... 😂😂😂

  • @mr.tarkovish2587
    @mr.tarkovish2587 Před 5 lety

    2650$ here in Canada.... Better of with a c200

    • @TheLokCheung
      @TheLokCheung Před 4 lety

      You're probably talking about the E2 that shoot 4K/120p. This is E2C, just US$800 around CA$1065

    • @ItsJustTedd
      @ItsJustTedd Před 4 lety

      And isn't the c200 over $6,000 Canadian?

  • @user-ur2nx1hi8w
    @user-ur2nx1hi8w Před 4 lety

    BUY E2

  • @automatisatorpeace5453
    @automatisatorpeace5453 Před 5 lety +1

    if i look at the image quality, i would still prefer the original BMPCC/BMMCC instead and am even cheaper, better DR (13 Stop), CinemaDNG/RAW (12Bit), ProRes (10Bit)...
    There is still a few €/$ left, for external microphone, screen (or Accsoon CineEye for Smartphone), battery...
    i think that the top-mounted iPhone on the E2C, with the front camera makes better shooting and that without the filmicpro app... then you don't need the Z-Cam underneath anymore.
    Sorry Z-Cam, but you're gonna have to do better than that. And maybe CinemaDNG, instead of Australian BRAW in Chinese ZRAW.
    Maybe choose a Fairchild sensor instead of Sony. Sony is built into almost every smartphone and can make even more beautiful recordings than what is built into E2C.
    The idea with smartphone as controller and screen is good, but then the E2C worst Sony sensor must make better recording than the smartphone itself.

  • @aquawalter
    @aquawalter Před 5 lety

    proof of flat earth... You are funny!

  • @levelazn
    @levelazn Před 4 lety

    flirst

  • @abisaiborder
    @abisaiborder Před 4 lety

    Terrible AF

  • @Canoneosmiami
    @Canoneosmiami Před 4 lety

    U can hardly talk don’t do videos in English please!