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- Two of the men who accused Bishop Eddie Long of sexual misconduct sat down for an interview with Channel 2's Jodie Fleischer. Read the full story at bit.ly/39JU5t7
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This is a prime example of why people should not idolize or blindly follow so called men of god
Treadlightly orelse shoot anyone!! And the sad part they're still under his spell!
There are true men of God that walk among us, so I can't agree with you. You just got to test their characters and see if they are found wanting.
@@karmaok6657 yes, they are. Its all in the eyes, they're the keys to the soul. ...
And now your sagging your pants. Smh
God bless us all. Look at our feature this is why we have to continue to keep our younger generation in prayer.
Also a prime example of how a man can exploit the absence of a Father in a child's life. Stop abandoning your children.... 🤦🏾
Yep and that includes all these black cults that are popping up.....Black Israelites, Black Aboriginals, Hoteps etc. Why Black Americans are starting to fall for these wolves in sheep's clothing is beyond me!
This is why I don't want any strange people around my kids. I barely trust family members with my kids. you never know.
It is really scary and I would hurt someone if they did this to my kids. I trust no one with my.kids. Man, woman or child, pastors, coach etc.
You have the right state of mind mama. Don't let anybody try and convince you otherwise.
Kizzy Sands Hartsfield I don't blame you!
cathy thomas o
TrisHit TheFan my kids have their actually father in their lives. whom is my husband. it still does matter. because predators are just that predators
Molestation of a child is MURDER OF THE SOUL. So proud of these two beautiful young men.❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I PRAY FOR EVERY SOUL THAT THE ENEMY HAS ABUSE IN SUCH A WAY. ALTHOUGH OUR GOD TURNS BAD INTO GOOD❤❤❤
The young man in the blue can be an excellent counselor... he completely understands the process of how this happens in it's entirety. Praying for his day to smile & cry in Jesus name
Extremely intelligent young man.
I agree, but he shouldn’t have touched the other guy like that. I understand he was trying to explain how the pastor touched them, but you can’t just run up and touch a sexual abuse survivor like that. Especially if that’s how the abuser touched them? You can tell that the guy was uncomfortable.
The guy in the blue kept over talking the guy in the black. Every time he tried to speak, he kept cutting him off. I feel it is something truly wrong with him, & I 100% without a doubt feel that he was sexually abused (penetrated). I hope gets the help he deserves.
@@dewilew2137This guy in blue is in between being a victim and being a manipulator himself. He's learned it, and he can't decide if he should use it or speak against it. This is the moment in hero movies when the victim decides to use his pain to fight for good, or let his pain turn him bad.
no he wouldn’t, he has too much hate in him which he even admitted. He can’t help other kids if hasn’t heal.
All of Eddie's employees who saw this going on will have to answer for these lads being taken advantage of...
Amen!
DLBMOS Money tends to shut many people up.
what they shut up for here, they will need to answer for before the Lord...
Landlord?
DLBMOS his wife too
Nothing wrong with the guy in blue....he has just completely opened his mind,body and soul to what happened to him and has, studied a lot about abuser/victim relationships, accepted what happened to him and forgiven himself. The reason why people find him odd is his openness to what happened to him, which is something considered a TABOO or weakness (especially for men). On the contrary it seems like he received plenty of good counseling and should be used as a model of recovery for other victims.
I agree with you. There are so many people who could relate to His message. I understood him because I respect his story and I can hear him. Judging eyes can't hear anything he's saying. But someone in need received it 100%
Shelly Long h7
Kenneth Kigundu
Kenneth Kigundu I agree I am in process of promoting this healing now I'm Black Men who are either mentally Ill or they are traumatized. I agree he doesn't sound sick to me he has a deep level of awareness and some of it may be that he is coping but he sounds alot more honest and Has a better perception of what happened to him!
why do make
why do the person who was victimized , always become the who is wrong......grown as men preying on young innocent boys........thus the homogeneity explosion...God hates this sin above all sin because they chose to make themselves different than how they were created,,, in other words making themselves above God..all sin is a stench to Him but this one is of greater weight.Man was created for woman......woman was created for man ....for the purpose of procreating......man to man....unnatural......woman to woman unnatural.....no matter what people think...I didn't say it , God said it!!!!!!!!, now take it up with Him....when you stand on judgement day...peace to how all
They're telling the truth....I'm a survivor of this and it's been a constant struggle...I pray that they will overcome.
I pray that God will continue to keep you strong thanks for sharing your story
Natasha Thompson me too
It took me 39 years to let go and start healing
I'm sorry that you endured this God bless you and your family 🙏
I also, am a victim of sexual abuse, it is so taboo in the black culture, where it seema they believe black men, a d women cannot sexual abuse children, it happens especially in my family. My older sister, my cousin, and my sister's that was abused by this Uncle her daughter was abused by him also. This man is still around, for my mom's sake, and family nothing has been said. My daughter has never been in a room alone with this man ever. I trust God, and my kids, and my siblings, and a few friends other then that no one.
Who’s revisiting this since TD Jakes story broke?
These 2 young men told the truth period. And it goes to show you don’t have to have actual sex to seriously damage someone. He preyed on young fatherless boys, played on their emotions by becoming their ever loving father, then broke them down by molesting them. Sick and ungodly.
Meeee lmaooooo This has got me in a frenzy 😂😂😂 now it all makes sense!!
@@SenDaGem 😆 me too it’s so much madness goin on rn
Me!
Preyed not prayed 🙂
@@HealingInVictory thanks, it’s corrected now
Anytime a grown ass man like havin lil boys around him u kno sum ain't right!
not true at all!!
I learned that over 20 years ago when this preacher in Portland, Oregon tried to make sexual advances toward me. I was a teenager (but not a minor) when he first approached me. It took him about a year and a half before he did so. He tried to groom me in to making me think he was so concern for my soul and my spiritual well-being. He would always tell me how feminine i was because I didn’t sit a certain way and was always groomed and smelling good. To him that was “effeminate” as he would say. When he couldn’t get me to move in with him so he could try whatever he felt he could, he told me that the “Holy Ghost” told him to cut me off. What these young men are saying lines up (almost exactly) to what that guy tried to do to me. However, there was no sexual intercourse of any kind. However, he did touch me several times inappropriately and tried to blame me for his flesh getting weak and that it was mutual. He always had teenage boys around him that were emotionally attached to them. Most of them were very nice boys. Some were feminine and some were not. This person is still pastoring and calls himself and apostle. Perhaps he has repented and gotten it right before God. But I still deal with this psychologically 20 years later to this day. I had to go to therapy a few years ago as a result. He was always telling me he loved me as if it were some type of spiritual thing. As a young man I did not understand what he was doing. Now, years later, I see what he was doing. He was very controlling, acted as if he was the most anointed person on earth and was always touching us on our heads. Even tried to snuggle up with us, making us think he was just a gentle affectionate man as Jesus was. It was a whole hot mess. I hope those young men are doing ok these days. I pray for healing!
+MaeSekou You bind the strong man of homosexuality and loose the spirit of a Holy covenant. You are straight, any thoughts coming into your mind is trying to change that . You fight against the lie, by applying the word to your mind and meditation. Your testimony is being used. Your offense does not define who you are. What"s it is , is that people get thoughts that come to their minds and they except it as their own, and sometimes it really is not. But its the enemy trying to change who you really are. Long has his church members under a satanic spell and it needs to broken. Check the history of New Birth, in two different States, they shut him down, they had the good sense not to welcome him in their State and city.
They gay any..way
Right. It shouldn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out...and STILL ppl let their sons go with these men.
The one in the blue shirt is going through the most difficult trauma...instead of judging them they need prayer
Touch not God's anointed, where is the fear of God? You don't put this before unbelievers to bring reproach on God or bring accusations against his Elect!
@@deborahcannon7299 Please stop with the touch not God's anointed B.S. that's the first scripture some of you carnal church folks who blindly worship pastor's who get caught doing dirt use out of context eddie long violated these young men and took away their innocence and he's paying for it now in hell right where he belongs
@@deborahcannon7299 you sound silly
@Shondra Clemons Exactly Sistas and sadly pastor's like eddie long and creflo dollar have so many gullible blind carnal church folks under their spell's that if they get caught doing something foul like stealing from people or touching on little boys and girls they will quickly defend the wolf in sheep's clothing just like mister BryanTrevorMooreRomannn and tbh with the way he thinks I would be very scared to leave or even have my children around him or someone like him cause best believe if someone touches my kids they will be layed out in someone's funeral home and I will be in jail best believe
@Great Lakes THAT'S. THE.POINT. DUMMYYYYY! THERE'S A REASON WHY THERE'S A LAW REGARDING AGE.
I appreciate my parents everyday for keeping me safe from creeps like that guy. May their souls rest in heaven.
They died?
@@Gorgeouslife101 yes. About 2 years apart
@@dabiz4272 oh wow I did not know that what happened?
@@goldenstar2656 my dad died of cancer and my mon had a heart attack
da biz wow. May they rest in heaven 🙏🏾
PARENTS REMIND YOUR KIDS DAILY THAT THEY CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT ANYTHING. TELL THEM THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU. MOST OF ALL TELL THEM "NO ADULTS SHOULD ASK THEM TO KEEP SECRETS FROM THEIR PARENTS". NO SECRETS...TELL YOUR PARENT. #KEEPOURKIDSSAFE🙏.
I BELIEVE every word they say!!!
MegaCOOKIES3 what did they say...he was compassionate and took care of they broke asses oh yeah and no sex
Tanisha Byrd right i think they are gay lovers on the low trying to get money from that man
MegaCOOKIES3 I don't for some reason
GODISLOVE&HEHASFORGIVEN me either I just truly don't believe it
me neither
I'm so confused what to think about the young man in blue! He's gonna have a lot of issues ! praying for all the young men involved in this!!! Parents listen to your children! protect your babies!
Preshia Johnson he's in a lot of pain, he's going to hurt himself or someone else, the one in the Black has Stockholm syndrome.
Preshia Johnson They were 17 at the time, not babies and when the checks stopped they started talking
CrimsonTide doesn't matter he had a huge influence of these teens lives and manipulated them a clear case of Stockholm Syndrome there age doesn't mean anything this happens to women in the church all the time does that mean they aren't victims
Preshia Johnson The one in the blue is very hurt and angry.
Preshia Johnson The one in the blue is very hurt and angry.
I'm so sorry this happened to these young men
What happened??
Watching this interview for the first time after watching Honk For Jesus, and I'm just speechless. These poor babies. Ahhh, my heart breaks for them.
SAME HERE
Same
Yeah I came after watching the movie seemed connected very much so.
So you see the similarities to Bishop Eddie Long.
After watching That movie it had me coming to this also
the guy in the blue hurt telling it all
He loved every minute of it and then some 😄😄
Mary it does sound like he is both hurt that he was used, but also low key hurt that he aged out. That's gotta be a tough mental space to navigate.
@Mary Lane 🤣🤣🤣
@@russelwilliam6051you’re weird he was a kid
This was recorded back in 2011 and his demise was in 2017. I bet no one believed theses men until now, poor babies. 😢 Breaks my heart!
Spencer (guy with locs) was a cell phone kiosk rep at Costco when I worked there. Eddie came by often to check up on him. My coworker and I noticed how Spencer never gawked at attractive female customers like the other male employees did. I didn't know what was going on or who Eddie was at the time. I literally felt the darkest energy I ever felt in my life every time that man was present.
That's not surprising I remember watching eddie long on TV and everytime I saw him the hair on my arms would stand up and I would get a very bad vibe and this was way before his scandal happened and I didn't understand it at the time and now I know why
@@Mr.Boddie I never would've even guessed this stuff was happening when it was.
@@anonimothy5979 Me either tbh but I always knew was something wasn't right about that man.
As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse - I can completely relate to what these young men are describing.
Parents and caregivers please listen - please be intentional about who you children are around. Pay attention to changed behaviors.
EVERYONE says “not my child” - yes your child too.
I salute these young men for their bravery! This is courageous!
Survivor here as well. All you said is true. I am very careful with my kids. 🙏🏼
They still Love Jesus just stay in the world! Get true the truth Jesus spirit!
@@marieambeau1072 Are you serious? Do you know the trauma these many Christian pedophiles cause? People like you are the problem.
When i was around 23 years old there was a married man who told me that he loved me and he was my land lord. Sometimes that guy was always trying to touch me stuff like that, he told me that he loved me, trying to be my friend stuff like that. I told him hey sir i don't go that way and i love girls. I was very upset about that, i really can't blame these young man.
People have lost their minds.
I would have pulled out the blicky!
SICK! I hope your ok though fr fr 🙏
@@barringtonmorris90 On God
@@treroney4720 on GAWWWD
Wooow! Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus, I pray for the both of these young men. For deliverance.
The young man in the blue shirt is highly intelligent and I hate to hear that their innocence was taken away from them. The guy on the right has such a sweet spirit and is so nice. I pray Lord God, that you keep these young men and deliver them, in Jesus' name
locafly amen
yeah that's not gonna work!!!!
+ProphetJones
You mean +locafly 's prayer isn't going to work....? Why??
(Just curious)
locafly I agree with you! Jesus never fails!!
Who are we praying to Jesus? Who is Jesus? Who is Amen? Who is all these different people..Any evidence of a person named Jesus/ Zesus/Zeus/Hero/Horus/Heru?
Do you even know any of your African deities? Do you even know where the story of Jesus was stolen from?
Sorry but with books google anicent artifacts and more books that European Christianity religion is washed up...Faith without works is dead is my answer!!!!
Plus there was no J in the alphbet in those days so the name Jesus has no power for it is not the charaters name!!!
Sorry It's just sad to me to see black people still haven't woke up out of this fairytale, man walking on water, heaven in the sky, burning hell underworld, spooky nonsense..
These young men are extremely courageous!
The dude in the blue shirt need some counseling that man mess his head up praying he ok in 2020
That's really sad
No, he is intelligent and he understands what happened to him and he can describe it clearly...When you know what has happened to you AND can describe it, you can heal quickly...💯
I’m glad Eddie is in hell now
trust GOD, not man
Period
Where is Rev Ike when you need him
He messed the one in the blue UPPPPPP... pray for him y'all. ..bc he needs it
you Tuber he said they didn’t have sec 😒😒😒
you Tuber yessssssss he is all over the place.
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As a 13-year-old my MALE friends & I were sexually abused by a pastor. He was real nice to us trips, gifts etc. Their telling the TRUTH
😥
I believe you. I hope you’re well in your life.
Why is the dude with the blue shirt kind of funny to me? "I'm going to EMBARRASS you.....again"!! Sarcastic ASF!! 😝😝😝
@@mandia469 Cuz at the time, almost the entire brainwashed New Birth congregation supported Eddie and attacked these guys, so he was probably mad and rightfully so
@@strnglhld I totally get that. My comment wasn't intended to discredit what they been through. I just found the guys demeanor to it a bit humorous!! But I totally understand how they were feeling though!
This video is 10 years old and I’ve just watched it for the first time. Wow. This is a wake-up call for all ministers of The Gospel. What a huge responsibility to walk above reproach and live a Holy life. We’re affecting so many people with the decisions we make.
Go watch unfiltered stories bill Haley on CZcams. Extremely disturbing, and the church is COGIC, look up their lawsuits too!
I’m here again. This is powerful. My family will be viewing this tonight. Great training film.
most of the stuff the boy in blue did was ILLUSTRATING what the pastor DID TO HIM..he was DEMONSTRATING what the pastors behavior was, and he probly got that mentality from trying to SURVIVE being around a MANIPULATOR..its a sad lesson to learn, but there are LOTS of predatorial people out there...soooo many narcissists and control freaks
Tekno Logik that's exactly what he was doing, have to pay close attention and listen
Tekno Logik when he start rubbing the dude w the dreads back 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Only God alone I trust my kids and grand child.
This interview is amazing. This is real testimony service. These brothas are telling it like it is. Thank you! This is needed.
Amen
I believe them
I'm speechless. Listening to him (young man in the blue) speak left me mesmerized. I feel the pain. My anger kept rising, and my heart breaks for those boys/men.
Grooming it's called Grooming. Hurt is very deep even though He denies "sexual" stuff!!!
Maybe it wasn't "penetration"
It's obvious ya'll don't know a lot about molestation. When he said it wasn't sex, sex and molestation are not the same thing. Sex is consensual. Molestation and rape is not. And it could have very well involved mainly touching, oral, etc., but it was not consensual. And very likely meant that it was not penetration; penis to butt, for example. Please look this stuff up online and understand more before judging.
Molestation is when it's fondling, dry humping, caressing, making out, sucking, jerking and even fingering. Basically everything except putting the penis in the vagina or butt.
I hope you guys got some help.The same happened to me at the age of 7,I'm 56 now and didn't seek therapy till a year ago. I regret not getting help sooner.So sorry this happened to you.God Bless
Hi Mercedes sorry to hear that, how is therapy going?
What therapy did u get? Hope ur doin OK.💙🙏🏼
When he got up and touched him that was a trigger... there whole description was on point..... they're lives are ruined... the mental shyt is horrible PTSD is the result.. lose of hope... drugs...suicide..... 😢
Wow cause when he got up and touched him and rubbed his shoulder i was like what the Hell this guy doing then I said Okkkk that's how Eddie did it
waldon warner RIGHT
And he had a gun to feel more protected
I went through the same thing for 15 years. I love y'all bro's. Y'all got a very special place in my heart. God bless you both n great testimony
Wow, I really hope your abused was prosecuted. Sorry you had to went through that 😔
@@zoozagt5 naw, sadly it never was. Nobody still to this day, would believe me. 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾but I thank you for your great thoughts and wishes towards me. May God bless every desire of your heart. Thank u I really appreciate, just even being noticed.❤️🙏🏾
He was a Narcissist for sure. Hopefully the victims will heal.
I'm 30, men offered me money as a kid and I never ever ever allowed my flesh to make me sell my dignity and principles for money.
That was you! These guys didn't sell their dignity it was stolen from them. They were groomed by a predator who pretended to only want to be a father and mentor. Get off your high horse and quit with the victim blaming!
The saddest part of this, outside of the abuse and manipulation, is that you can tell that these young men sincerely loved this man and looked to him as a Father, even after he violated them. When I look at Eddie Long now, I see judgement all over him. But these poor young men probably don't even feel fully vindicated when they look at him, but sorrow and pity for him because they loved him as a Father. I hope before Long dies, he comes clean about the horrific things he did to them and offers them the apology they deserve. God doesn't sleep Eddie. You will not get away with what you did to them.
Emicia Parker it's real.
Emicia Parker idk if you heard yet,but he died 2day
Emicia Parker Wow!
Emicia Parker it is indeed, extremely sad...
salome kerr maybe it was oral sex or maybe he got away when it got to that point
The darker skinned brother still loves Eddie. He still cares for him and that’s sad. Eddie still has his mind. I hope he went to counseling. The brother in the blue shirt has a more fighting spirit and is more in tune with his feelings and emotions and what happened to him. He will go far in life
This happened to me also at 5 years old by my own father. Went through 15 years of serious recovery from this. Started at 30 yeRS OLD. WHAT THISYOUNG MAN SAID IS SO TRUE. WE ARE NEVER THE SAME. I TRUST NO ONE TO THIS DAY.
I am sorry to hear that Lara. I need to seek recovery as well I am in my late 30s. I haven’t been the same since my trauma
@@heartofplaydoh7647 God bless you. Take care of yourself & don’t carry toxic shame. That shame belongs to the perpetrator not you.
Lord Jesus!!! I’m sorry about this
@@laraoneal7284Do you still have a relationship with your dad ? I ask because my friend was molested by her dad and she still celebrates him on social media . It makes no sense to me .
@@stacyr4768 I went no contact from from my parents and all my younger siblings over 25 years ago. My entire family is systematically narcissistic and abusive in a covert way. I was not going to subject myself to anymore invalidating toxic behavior. Your friend sounds to be in denial and trauma bonded to her father. You’re correct not only does it make no sense it makes her potentially dangerous to any children she has contact with bc she obviously is condoning sexual abuse. I would tell her this and then proceed with going no contact from her. I hope to God that she doesn’t have children. Good luck. God bless you. You have good judgment. Follow through with ur discernment. Be courageous. Correction: systemically.
after this people still worship at Eddie Long's church? wow goes to show were peoples priorities are. Evidently not to protect their own children.
***** do they have proof that he didn't? Was he not "mentoring" young boys and having them with him without other adults around? when you are looked up to by someone who is young and naive about peoples intentions and are just starting to explore their sexuality then you have an easy prey. Sadly this happens more than you might think. I know because it happened to me.
***** you are naive. This is why people like Bishop Eddie Long continue to get away with things like this. Just because he is a man of god does not make him invulnerable to corruption. He had a lot of influence and he could enforce his influence to get what he wanted or who he wanted. The only thing he had to do was hide it. Then it would be them against me.
+MICHAEL STEPHENS Proof for what? The proof is they were there and we weren't!!!
+Judi Lynn
Don't use a RED HERRING since I didn't lump ALL people together, I specifically addressed my point at Black Christians following their oppressor's religion. They are the IGNORANT ones. If you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen.... nuff said part deux
Dreambro1, you are minimizing the damage Eddie Long did to his victims. All you have to do is watch the guy in the blue tshirt to see the harm sexual abuse does. That is an angry, betrayed, hurt & damaged man. Eddie Long chose boys he could manipulate & then manipulated & betrayed them. He taught them all they were good for was sex, being used. In other words, he taught them they were worthless as human beings, that people who claim to love them would actually just want to use & betray them instead. He also f***ed them over spiritually, because they'll never again feel like the church is a place of sanctuary, support, guidance. Eddie Long has alienated them from a source of spiritual strength & community that was clearly very important to them. The one guy even said he wanted to be a pastor before he met Long.
That is a hard thing to go thru as an adult, then imagine having to survive that as a kid. These young men may struggle their whole lives to unlearn those lessons they internalized at the hands of Eddie Long. How are they supposed to have healthy relationships, for example, when they both said what they learned about life is TRUST NO ONE. Guy on the right has that tattooed on his arm, that's how hard he learned that lesson. So it's got nothing to do with Eddie Long being famous, it's about how damaging sexual abuse is & how longterm the harm. Oh, & also what a hypocrite Eddie Long was, condemning gay people while all the while secretly targetting teenagers.
The dirtiest of the dirties are leading our churches! SMH
+BigBoss AndTheDoll I was shown that Billy Graham began a full blown vatican inspired, Jesuit assault on Protestantism in 1948, with the assistance of Kathryn Khulman and Robert Scheuller, all were Masonic Jesuit Catholics. Their children continue the infestation and deceive Protestants with the same dedication, while pretending to be Protestants, just like their leader did. I believe all churches have been contacted and the legitimate pastors have been threatened or removed.
Here's what the American icon of Freemasonry, Albert Pike, an officer in the Confederate Army and the founder of the K.K.K. had to say about the organization. The grammar, punctuation and sentence construction are on an 8th grade level, because he was semi-literate.
"That which we must say to the crowd is: We worship a God, but it is a God which one adores without superstition. To you, Sovereign Inspectors General (33rd Degree) we say this; that you may repeat to the brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: The MASONIC RELIGION should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the LUCIFERIAN doctrine. If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay (Jesus) ...calumniate (Spread False And Harmful Statements About) him? YES, LUCIFER IS GOD..."
Albert Pike 1870 Franc Maconnerie Universelle (Page 588)
“Lucifer, Son of The Morning! Is it he who bears the light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds the feeble, sensual, selfish souls? Doubt it not!" Albert Pike 33 Degree Freemason
Jesuits And Knights of Malta Oath To The Pope
.....“I do further promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics and Protestants and as I am directed to do to extirpate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex, nor condition, and that will hang, bum, waste, boil, flay, strangle, and bury alive these infamous heretics; rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women, and crush their infants’ heads against the wails in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same can not be done openly, I will secretly use the poisonous cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I, at any time, may be directed so to do by any agents of the Pope or superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Father of the Society of Jesus.”
Read matt 25:15-16 here the Lord show's is why it is so dirty in the church
he shows us the abomination (saton,,) now rules. 2nd thess 2:7The LORD says the same thing he says in matt 24:16 Flee get out,the church has fallen away from the LORD, the Bible it was for told this would come to pass read Isaiah 5 this vineyard is not the nation of Israel, shockingly it is the new testament church .Falling away, Hebrews 6:6,Hebrews 10:26 the willful sin here is to refuse to come out of the apostate church God no longer uses, we argued ,with God ,my" church this my church that, the LORD had his time table "thine end is come" yet the gospel is to be preached outside the church ,this will really show were peoples faith is ,in a pastor, a church or the very written word of God, finally this 2nd thesjes2:7 here the LORD tells us the restrainer( the holy ghost) will be taken out of the mist of the church, saton will now rule through man
this is WHY U see so much dirt
+BigBoss AndTheDoll That is because the head of Christianity is Satan.
YOU got that right.
Aisha Blount it is a most terrible horrible doctrinal teaching that actually is in the scripture but the church for so long have ignored the biblical precepts on how to preach the Bible and the Lord simply work around the church saving them whom he planned to save.
He work around the false preachers, the money-grubbing prosperity group, the lukewarm church members who merely came to church to get their blessing, and went home with no changes, no salvation.
The truth is we must look at what the Bible tells us concerning the gospel, especially how we are to interpret scripture.
30/40 years ago it would have been unheard of to have a gay or lesbian pastor, today these things are happening right before our eyes.
we disregard the warnings that these are Abominations before the Lord, the churches have decided, we are wiser than God, we will pick our own pastors, we will pick and choose the doctrines from the Bible which we like, We Will Worship the Lord in this way
And the Lord has consistently and constantly warn the churches they were to keep his Commandments, or else he would remove the candlestick, Revelations 2 verse 5, the Lord clearly warned, he would come upon them when they are not aware and bring his judgment which is spiritual, shockingly amazingly he would turn the churches over to Satan this had already happened in one of the churches in Revelations when the churches were still babies, One Church Satan had already Soul invaded the church with unsaved numbers he now was ruling the church, and though Christ still with saving, the elect in the churches, Satan has gained a foothold
today if we are not spiritually asleep we will see utter wickedness , the Rebellion, the pride of the church that has the audacity to change one word of the Bible
We had better listen God has sent ,warnings he will judge a backslidden church, in fury of his anger , and jealousy
the fear of the Lord is no longer in the churches,,
Jamal should educate himself to become a counse lor and help other abused youth. He broke down a predator so wonderfully! As someone who was involved with a predator/sociopath I've never been able to describe it. Thank you Jamal! Where ever you are now, I hope you are healthy and have received some form of healing going forward. You are a man! I love your no nonsense spirit and realness, other victims need someone like you.
❤❤
The anger in his voice sends chills down my spine.
The guy in the blue looks like he is mentally going threw something,
Traumatized is what I'd call it, so sad
Through*
PTSD
mark simms Why are you surprised? He was sexually abused.
You think?¿¿¿
I believe that it is very difficult for some people who have not been exploited and sexually violated to understand the various stages that an adult goes through after being sexually abused as a child. It takes a lot of resilience to live with sexual abuse, and to overcome the traumatic events. These two young men have shown great bravery by telling their story in front of people who may disbelieve them. I commend them, pray for their continual recovery.
Just buried my very best friend 3 days ago. He struggled with alcohol and drug addiction for more than 40 years, due to horrific sexual molestation as a young child. He overdosed. I despise child molesters, and I miss my friend so very much.
Accept my sympathy
My condolences to you❤
Very eloquently spoken. I was a victim of a Pastor of another church. I went to my own Pastor for help, he urged me to chalk it up as a lesson learned, and to let it go.
I’m sure that pastor was guilty of it himself
keep telling your story. YOU are saving other young people. God knows your heart and thier are people who prey on the innocent. YOUR SO RIGHT. . .WHAT'S DONE IN THE DARK WILL COME OUT IN THE LIGHT.
Amen
The young man in the blue is just hurt and very angry because he esteemed Eddie long as a father figure and he took advantage of him. The young man just needs to be healed and delivered. A lot of adults take advantage of youth who are vulnerable and looking for love and validation from someone and its unfair. I believe these men, its just this situation affects each one differently. Some can move on easily, others cannot right away.
Men do the game on women just like this
And they grown , looking for love and not asking Christ is
This the right one
Lord? So in a hurry
To get blazed by some guy , the wrong
One? These were babys, where was the
Parent?
@Niashe that's because they are not
Saved and are looking for the guy
Without Christs holy
Spirit guiding them
The Bible says weak
Woman loaded down
With sin. They haven't
Come across truth yet that sets you free
Christ!
Emotions set into their minds and that
Body we wear called
Flesh has a sin code
That you get rid of by
Going in prayer to Christ. They are to walk with him, keep
His words after
Repenting. He will
Stay right with you,
When you stay right
With him
There is a hell.
It's like the scriptures
Said " when I want to
Do right, I do the
Wrong o don't want to
Do, thank God for
Sending Christ Jesus...... Cause that's the way to
Beat that sin code
Adam and Eve dealt
Man kind.Christ is
The second Adam.the word!
Yeah he's mentally Screwed
As of this date, December 1, 2019, is there an update as to how these young men are doing? I'm praying all is well with them now.
Whats the name of the show
Kessa R didn’t they sue for Money? Civil Suit?
They paid in full and off the grid.
Kessa
Spencer is actually on fb I think he is doing just fine at least looking at him on the outside
The one in the Blue I would love a Update on his mindset!
look how fast the 1 N blue jumped & said you sound like him....He was so uncomfortable
What the hell were their mothers thinking letting their teenagers go on trips with a Pastor like that . I'm quite sure that all the young men who got molested came from homes headed by single mothers.
What? He did not molest them.
ChilePleaseStop Yes he did...brainwashed/
Red Davis Exactly
Red Davis Fuck you! Thank God, I'll never give birth to a black man/child. I'll throw myself down a flight of steps before than happens. Blame it on the single women...but where were their fathers? Nevermind, it's the women's fault anyway.
Yvonne Criddle WHO GIVES A FUCK!!!!!
The guy in blue CLEARLY had some sort of sexual relationship with Mr. Long.More than he is telling.There is something about him and the way he tells his story.You can not say you never had sex but say something sexual happened inappropriately and then say what happens in the dark comes to the light in a joking way giving one to think something sexual did happen. I hope these men are in a better place.
He is trying in heal and telling the world what he feels comfortable telling at that time.
I feel the same. Something sexual definitely happened
I would bet they both did.
You guys are not alone. I know exactly how you all feel. Being a victim/overcomer of church abuse myself. Noone will ever understand until they have gone through it. Thanks for sharing.
I am so proud of these two young men for their candor and courage. Yes, each expresses his hurt and honesty in a different way, but each young man is sharing his experience so that others can know the truth.
The immature comments some have made on this video, especially the unfair remarks some have made about the lad in blue, proves that even when you tell the truth, fools will not appreciate the pearls you cast.
Today, in both the Protestant and Roman Catholic Churches witchcraft is performed by the clergy to please The Dragon their GOD.
Eddie Long performed witchcraft at the Baptist Church where he was head clergy.
This is true, but we have to still tell our stories for ourselves, so the next young person can get the encouragement to tell the truth. Eventually, they will have to believe because it will then be many small voices speaking out loud.
Now that Bishop is dead, I wonder can they now tell the whole story without compromising the legal settlement? Guess we'll have to wait and see if that tell all book comes out.
+Nickelwindow53 nasty bitch...
Lee EightiesBaby yo mama!
Brandi Lanear I live in Atlanta so I might be 😏how you doin?!?
Centino Kemp's book was so graphic about the sex he had with Eddie in church it was shocking.
MYSPIRITUAL LIFECHRONICLES post book excerpts
I was hurt as a child. My whole life changed in those moments so I know exactly how they feel. When you are abused as a kid it alter your whole life. You don't even know who you are anymore.
Me too! And several other women in my family same abuser. It is hard this brings back so many bad memories. I am praying for all who have been through this.
Lord my heart breaks reading all these comments of people who have been abused… I wish I can give u all a huge hug and tell u how much God loves u and this had nothing to do with u and u didnt ask for it, it was a sick person with demons who did this… im so sorry this happened to you… but I pray for healing, and for freedom from this chains.. God has so much for you in store!!
the guy in the blue keeps interrupting the other guy
The other guy is babbling and not making any sense
@@theteatv2348 How was he babbling, when he's not getting a chance to talk?
@UC04t4TT_Nc_dmTYK2oEtthA yes conversation is supposed to be about quality not quantity less is more
I believe everything these guys said they went through. My thoughts and prayers are with them. May they heal, grow, and advocate for children who have been sexually abused.
praying for healing for all of these victims. may they be fully restored. I'm glad they had the strength to speak up for themselves as well as those who couldn't speak for themselves.
These young men communicate so well and it's very admirable. I would say to them or anyone who has experienced this or any kind of abuse, you can renew your mind through the Word of God, regardless of how tragic your experience in life is. God can do that. Stay with it. Read the Word daily and let it wash your mind as it claims to do. My heart really goes out to them or anyone who has been violated in this way. It's very sad that Pastor Long wasn't able to confess the truth but I'm guessing he just couldn't do that because of his wife and children. It was far too much for him. But I feel sure he did repent to God. I think if he had confessed publicly he would have been healed physically of what he was struggling with medically. Young men, learn to see yourself as God does. Then you will know this wasn't about you but about someone else. That's the key. It wasn't about you. And don't focus on all you lost because that isn't what God speaks to His children. He said, "I will turn EVERYTHING for YOUR good." We cannot loose in life if we know God's Word and believe His promises. They will work for YOU!
Amen, well said I love the way you put this and I hope people will realize that the Lord heals broken hearts and people who read the bible and understand it will renew their minds and their faith.
I wonder how these young men are doing now?
I'm from Atlanta. Please beware of the cons. I've seen friends from other places come there and get their souls snatched looking for a savior. They left Atlanta with less than what they came with emotionally and physically. Attention black people a city or a pastor or a school will not save you! I'm done.
Well said.
May the LORD heal your wounds
ESSY QUEEN How is your Lord going to heal their wound? You see.....thats the problem we have in our society with all this biblical crap.
Amen 🙏❤
@@donnamckie7101 you see that's your problem the "your Lord" issue.
Who's keeping you from the problems of this evil world.
Who's keeping you from killing, stealing and destroying yourself.....
Hummm let me guess. Your Lord huh...
Don't try to destroy what someone else believes in BC you don't believe in what they believe in.
Now that's the problem with this world today. You can't determine who and what someone can or can't do you are not God almighty...
Learn to...
Stay in...
Your lane....
And let others be who they are.
Your ancestors ain't gonna heal em. Your consciousness ain't gonna feel that void. May THE LORD HEAL THEM!!!
I don't allow my kids to be around family members let alone strangers
I really believe these young men this was so wrong. Omg 😮🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
They are unfortunately telling the truth. Back in 2007 I was on memorial Drive at the liquor store getting me a bottle of wine and a strange man jumps in my car. I was scared shitless. I hadn't had a chance to lock my door and start my car. He was much larger than me and truth be told I was paralyzed....I couldn't even scream and no one was out side to help me anyway because it was late. He was already drunk and ordered me to take him to the weekly hotel that was just down the road and he was ranting and and raving about some dude that had taken everything from him because he would not give in to his sexual advances. I didn't give a damn I just wanted him out of my car. But he just kept talking. Eventually, I I took note of what he was talking about because he said Eddie Longs name and I had just attended his church once with my aunt at her insisting(That was Before I finally figured out I'm definitely an atheist). Anyway, This guy used to be Eddie Longs Personal Trainer and apparently Eddie Long Had given him cars and all kinds of things and eventually wanted something else in exchange. This dude was not having it. So Eddie Long pulled the rug from up under this dude. Took the car, left him homeless and he ended up living in the weekly hotel on memorial. So he had no intentions of hurting me. Thank Goodness. I was lucky that night. I actually ended up sitting in the parking lot of the hotel talking to the guy cuz he was distraught...yeah Eddie Long was a Dirt Bag.
Lynne Harrison wow
Not Savannah Suites 😆
Lynne Harrison very true. I had a friend that told me about him in 05
Antonio Harris everyone has a story😐
Lynne Harrison ...wow
Wow! You can tell that they are being very truthful and honest about their horrible experience with Bishop Eddie Long. The way they speak on how it all started, how he lured them in, and brainwashed them. Dude in the blue shirt, is telling it like it is!! He is telling it like it went! Real Talk! This is sad, and so many young men have suffered and have been lured into being exposed to this type of lifestyle in a church setting...,Catholic or otherwise. It is sad overall. I always say that people are human, no matter what position they play in the world and evil lives within many of us, don't care if you are a doctor, lawyer, preacher, teacher, president, officer....You really cannot trust in the church anymore, why, because we are human... F'kd Up....
Some try to hide it, but the truth comes out in the end. So very sad...
Amen " what's done in the dark will come to the light" Glory.may God Bless yall!
My heart breaks for these young men! A predator took their innocence and childhood. Gave them gifts to keep them loyal and subservient! Just shameful! I pray that they receive the counseling and support that they need to have the life that they deserve ! 🙏🏽
Obviously these men came from a broken home. Obviously they were groomed for just the right moment. Someone they trusted and who stood in that father role took advantage of them. I am glad you guys came out with your story. Parents be aware of who you allow to mentor your kids.
After nearly 20 years dominating Cincinnati talk radio, I have learned that victims react differently. You cannot predict a victims behaviours. The human brain is unique in all of us, and it deals with stress according to a system than NO man has full understanding of. I AM THE KING OF TALK!
Nathan Ivey- well said. There is no set way to cope with trauma, there are some positive avenues as well as negative pathways take. With that said no one can assign a true method of displaying traumatic symptoms- the symptoms exemplify themselves uniquely in all.
*CINCINNATI where? Lived here my entire life. I'VE never heard of you!*
I believe these young men. Truly. So sorry they went through this.
1/14/22: There are thousands of young I ung males as ND young females going through this date.
Thank you for sharing, I can't even imagine the pain and loss you both have experienced. I pray your hearts are healing, and that you have amazing healthy support around you. I pray each day brings healing and freedom and that your stories will help others who have been traumatized by abuse. I heard you, I believe you and believe in you both.
They are being truthful.
don't play with the Lord
These two young men are being truthful , you can feel it and you can see them express their inner hurt. I feel so badly for them but God will heal them , prayers your way young men .
I hope these young men are doing good in life now. They deserved better. I’m proud of them for speaking out.
The one in the blue really seems like he doesnt want anything like this happen ever again. And yes he is handsome
Beauty fades along life's road, you will need something else
To pull you tru, like
Christ Jesus 🙏 he is
Always beautiful and
Ready to hear you call
His name.
Girl get outta' here tellin' that guy he's
Cute! He just jumped his little self up and
Kissed the other guy
Showing off something,? An I'm trying to vision beyond that kiss to
His mind set.
He don't need super
Facial comments talking about he cute.
He don't need to take
That to any woman
Or the streets . Baggage may be
Heavy in cute and
And a unsuspecting
Other will get the opposite of cute coming out the bed room.!
@@joyceboyd23boyd87 I agree with you there..No need for complement at this time this young men need proper care love and compassion...
the guy in blue is very scary to say the least but i can't judge him...these guys are examples of sexual abuse, their emotions and thoughts are everywhere
It's some guys who act just like him and
No one abused them.
They're just not saved by Christ and the mind of God is not
Activated in him.
Didn't he say he wasn't sexed up by
This Church leader?
But still he like projecting himself
Look at how he got
Up and dramatically kissed his who ever
Black shirt. Is he saying something
Without words?
I have seen many
Things on Earth ,
My grand daughter
Acted out in 1st grade something in
School with body
Language and I got
That right away!
She didn't open her mouth but her
Body sitting in that
Chair. That white
Non teacher had to leave that school!
That kiss struck down the structure
Of the interview.
May our savior heal
Both of them.
Scary???
Thank you for having the courage to speak out on this to help others know that this really can happen as a abuse Survivor myself I give you courage and thanks for speaking up thank you
What courage it took for them to speak. I'm praying they are both well even now.
As a victim and survivor of incest. Please dont judge all those person that is in a Spiritual positions and in the Catholic churches or other Churches ALL PERSONS ARE NOT BAD. I FEEL STRONGER for you and others that have had to endure it.
Pray Pray.
My father ( birth factor) died 2 years ago. I had a child by my father thats where and who my incest started and ended From 14 yrs old till 16 .I was made to have 2 abortions I was determined not to have aborted. I love her and shes been told the truth and I want her to get therapy she needs this to feel good by herself.. I WOULD love 2 meet you and chat with you about SO MANY THING,,As a victim and survivor I started keeping a diary and under therapy, writing helped me. it helps. But no matter how often I say it, its like going through it/ I was encouraged to write a book lol not a writer at all. I still occasionally wonder what my life would be if, just if I had stayed in the teachers home. I was not safe then, thats why I have a sexual addiction I see certain tools instruments around the home that I refuse to use or have in my procession due to my father would use them on me.
My father was married at that time. we all were living under the same roof. I called her recently she had the same phone number after all the years, I am terrible with math. But number stuck in my brain. I called her if she recognized my voice she did. I jump right the point...What kind of woman would sleep in her bed room night after night. he entred my room same day after night, she never asked why or what. Or was it not your concerned because me being their took the sexual abuse, rapes, baths away from your child? what kind of woman are to listen to me being yelling crying and YOU NEVER SAID A WORLD?WHAT KIND OF PERSON DOES THAT. TELL ME WHY/
HEY IF YOU HAVE THE CHANCE CONTACT ME LETS CHAT.
Jesus bless you both,
Kourtney M. Franke
Praying for you guys. So sorry this happened to you.
Your helping a whole lot of people who feel alone my coming forward. Priceless! Keep speaking truth Guys.
I love these two kids and now grown men. God has a purpose for both of them.
WOW....they were "in love" with Eddie and ashamed at the same time...
I must agree with the comment of them being "preyed" upon at such a young age though....
The first time I heard him speak I told my older sister I was with what he was saying. Something about him did not set right with me and lo and behold 10 years later all this came out. smh
I felt the same way when I heard him preached too. My spirit man didn't care for him at all.
BryanTrevorMoore Romannn I can't explain it it was something I just knew. It's called discernment.
@@alfredaalfreda4328 Me too! His Tv sermons were more polished, but in person, a dog and pony show! I had a friend who adored him & that church. I could never have given as much money as she did. She even bought every one of his sermons on audio tape. Wow!
Long was creepy, but this other guy, Earl Paulk, had a huge church a few miles away fr NB. He might have been worse!!
The young man in blue isn't crazy,this young man went through something that no young boy should. No one but GOD EXPOSED EDDIE LONG.
God gone expose Christianity as a whole
@@carltonbenjamin9431 Christ will save only
144,000 Jews and a
Multitude of gentiles
In white robes.
@@joyceboyd23boyd87 😂😂
Not too sure if I heard about Eddie Long but when I watched Honk For Jesus last night I had a feeling it was based on a true story. This is crazy I feel bad for these victims
Sad smh
That's facts the movie blew me away I didn't know anything about this but it wasn't hard to put the pieces together
wow this is true wickness. the way he controlled them. I know they are telling the truth. I am sure of it.
I conquer, these guys are way to knowledgeable about the situation to be lying. Eddie robbed them of their innocence and trust. My heart goes out to any persons who suffer from any form of abuse. These guys are truthful, and eddie is a master manipulator period.
agreed
:''-( this is all so true. I've been there
I know, it rang so true. saddness
He was their spiritual FATHER.
He said he was a jerk now because of this. Something he did makes him feel evil. He said he was a jerk...he said look into a persons eyes who was sexually abused...then he says he never had sexual relations with the bishop. What happened then? What did the bishop do to them?
They were underage. He said it was sexual stuff, but that they didn't have sex. When he said it wasn't sex, sex and molestation are not the same thing. Sex is consensual. Molestation and rape is not. Molestation means it could have involved mainly touching, being touched in a sexual manner, oral, etc., but it was not consensual. And very likely meant that it was not penetration; penis to butt, for example. There's lots of info online. Please look this stuff up for more details.
I’m sending those brave young men all the blessings in the world. I’m so proud of you guys. I wish I could take away the pain bless you both.
thank you for sharing.
I KNOW ALOT OF MEN SEEN THIS AND WAS LIKE DAMN..... and still holding their secrets...LADIES JUST BE AWARE, never let a man BELITTLE YOU
Anthony Banks that's right love
Amen
Anthony Banks
Thank you 💙💙💙💙💙
Anthony Banks Are you saying a man who belittles a woman is on the DL?
Let the other guy talk. He has something to say too.
Right he was annoying me!
I as well am so proud of you two young men and some time has passed and the abuser is no longer here and I wished he would have before he passed had told the two of you and all the other victims that he was sorry. I pray for God to heal all you - mind, body, and soul. Unfortunately, I know what you have gone through and I too will never trust anyone. May the love and peace of God be upon all of you. Thank you both for having the courage to come forth and tell the truth 🙏🏽❤️
Thank you for being brave and telling the truth. I hurt for you , my heart breaks over and over. Please write that book.