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I have been critical of Football Manager for years. If you watch the streams, you know as much fun as we had with Taunton Town there was just something about FM23 that didn’t hit the mark. But, I am very happy to say, that era of my angst towards FM and its direction seems to be coming to a close.
This is the earliest I’ve done a review of a Football Manager game. There are certain features that will take years in the game to test, like the new changes to the dynamics system and player morale, but what I’ve seen so far is worthy of something I’ve never given -- a glowing review of Football Manager’s early access. FM24 is a banger.
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The match engine this years is light years ahead of any of the past versions.
Yep it is.
I'm halfway through a PL season as Liverpool and Konate is the leagues top scorer from nothing but corner goals. Match engine is good, but set pieces are busted.
@@MaulwurfBuddelflink I mean it’s maybe goal heavy just now but the movement is miles better is much more fun to watch. Nothing done tweaking can’t fix.
The engine is still way too easy to crack. Forcing heavy pressing systems still leads to overperformance. I get that's what works in real life aswell but it's still an issue in my eyes.
That's what I was thinking for real
This is the kind of incremental improvement that I expect for $45 and nothing more.
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have you seen the tactic of Xavi at Barca?
also the lack of formations for the rest of the managers, most dont play with inside forward something you see many clubs doing.
The price is ridiculous for a database update.
@@tomeboaventura9054 Not when you consider how many people are involved in keeping that database meticulous, we are lucky we only pay what we pay.
@@krashdits nothing when you think about it per month
The moment i played FM24 i said: this is the match/animation engine that was advertised in FM23.
I'll just pirate fm24
@@makchot3263you didn't need to announce your crime intention...
@@makchot3263 We are all waiting for fm25 bro
@@makchot3263 np
@@makchot3263 No you wont mate there's no one left to crack FM's denuvo nowadays.
Players being able to head downwards is such a revolution it felt like the fall of a dictator. Pure elation and dreams of what to do with the sudden freedom. I couldn't believe what I saw the first time it happened. Absolutely joyous.
Is this a saddam reference?
@@braviodambe2371 Not particularly, no. But thanks for the chuckle
This wasn’t already a thing? (Genuine question)
@@sopro4622 I can't speak for FM23, as I do no own it, but I do have several thousand hours in the previous games. About 3,500 in FM22, for example, and not ONCE has the ball been headed towards the ground. Sometimes straight at goal. Most of the time towards the sun.
@@braviodambe2371 In what way is his comment connected to Saddam? And if you just say "because he used the word dictator" it will worry me.
Having not played 23 the jump from 22 to 24 is insane. It feels like my players are scoring in different ways now
I have the same situation, It actually feels like a new game. Great decition to skip a generation
I made the same jump and u agree , i feel like it feels more unpredictable and the aray of goals is much more different
I just carried across my 23 save with Crystal Palace, my wingers have gone off the charts and can ACTUALLY glide in and out now, first time players like Eze move like Eze in game haha
bro i play FM21 for the past years, now buying the 24 version hopefully hits diferent
@@haboxwhite2172downloading it right now as fm24 is free on xbox pass, whats your opinion on it sfter a week?
I am playing FM series for the last 15+ years, and oh my is this one(fm24) THE BEST one i have ever played.
Already on around 100h and can't get enough of it.
Engine is so much better,ball movement is incredible and player movement is over the top.
Only words of praise for Devs and team that made it this year,i can only imagine what are they gonna do next year in Unity.
Im enjoying it so much every second of it.
PS
Big fan from Croatia,Rijeka
Greetings Zealand
Sports Interactive bot nothing matter changed
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Tha ks bro your comment are 1 of many comments to made my decision buy fm24. My latest fm is fm20 😂
Eventough the match engine is good,i find it too easy.Every game at least 4 goals.7-3,6-1,5-2 the results i get all the time
I dunno if you played FM23, but regens there were horrorcore. It was the holocaust of talent. It's a fact, I know Ca and PA (using GenieScout) of every single player. for several careers. Now in your experience are regen better in FM24?
In terms of the speed of the game, I'm close to finishing my 4th season on my beta save, this after playing half a season on a crossover FM23 save to test that. In previous FM's, I've never managed more than 2 seasons in a beta. And yes, the match engine is absolutely glorious this year. It's just a shame the game is brought down so much with the awful interactions, but hopefully they have fixed this for full release tomorrow. Has the potential to the best FM ever, if it isn't there already.
Im still playing FM21 and im going to buy FM24. Its the last of this "gen" and with the unity engine next year I know FM24 will keep me busy the next 2-3years. Then I hope FM26/27 will be running smooth with the new engine and stuff
well apparently fm25 is going to very different and very good. i’d recommend waiting till fm25 comes out. I just feel like that may be the better move for you but obviously do whatever you think is best.
This is my plan. I've bought 24 to last me the first year teething years of the Unity set-up and I'm excited to play it out of the beta.
@@LamineYamalinho Should be good, but it is possible that first new engine for this game, that there might be a lot more bugs than usual, which they may not have time to fix everything in the first iteration with new engine. I can see logic in skipping the first unity game but I would wait to see the reviews when it releases to see how many bugs it has.
My first FM was 21, I brought 22 and 23, and tbh, I hardly noticed a change between them. This is an actual positive update and improvement to the game, I feel way more invested in the game, to the point where I didn’t even carry my save from FM23 over, I restarted fresh in FM24 with the same team. The game feels fresh and fun again, it’s a game I’d willingly recommend to friends
One thing I would love, is if they added more player traits to reflect the new animations. Eg the stutter step and the half turn. If there were "Likes to stutter step" and "Likes to half-turn" then that adds a new bespoke quality and personality to each player, and something to appreciate when that player pulls it off in a match and leads to a goal.
I'm still waiting for them to put in the step over dribbling animations lol
I have left my set pieces completely to my set piece coach who had great stats and it’s been amazing, the variety of corner and free kick goals is so good. I have actually scored a corner where my taker has pinged a pass to a player on the edge of the box who has taken a touch and then smashed it top corner. It’s great
Bros got paul scholes on his team
I agree with all your points. The one thing that needs to be looked at from my time with it is there seems to be a big difference in shot velocity between what's a goal and what isn't. If they can normalize that a bit it'll be great.
Great review of the early access game, and what an amazing experience it has been so far. The only little thing which bothers me slightly is that free kicks from dangerous positions are rarely scored whether it'd for or against. I've played 4 and a half seasons and I've only seen 2 goals from free kicks.
I'm a huge fan of corners IRL, and pay a lot of attention to them, so having the creative freedom in this FM has allowed me to make a couple of corner routines that have enabled me to score 26 corners in a season (over double of second place, and 26x more than a few other teams in La Liga)
Fun fact: I played that exact formation you use mirrored in an old version of FM (I wanna say FM 14) in a save with Juventus. Pirlo was the key player in DM and Kwadwo Asamoah had an insane average rating in left midfield. ☺️
Set pieces are absolutely OP, expecially throwins (where its too easy to create overloads) and corners (where the taker gets a free run after the set piece to do whatever)
Othersise i totally agree
Dear Lord of the Loans, Saviour of the saves, Master of FM Zealand,
I was hoping you could create an updated version of the player roles video you created in 2020. I'm having a hard time visualising them on the field (ie the spacethey operate in on the field on At, Su and De). I think that is something every FM player can benefit from. Really hope you could do us a favour when you have the time.
I haven't watched the video yet, but one thing in FM24 that makes me happy is that the matches aren't just long balls behind the defenders like in older FMs. The attack build up is massively improved and the defenders can actually track long balls and when a through ball does happen it feels natural.
Especially FM23 had that problem. Now the players actually try to play it short if you asked them to do so
I can't wait to get the game this weekend! I just hope the match engine changes and the coaching changes, carry over to FM23 saves that're imported over
I got my Striker to score around 30 goals from corners the first season. Felt a bit broken, but the opposition seems to have figured out my plays a bit the following seasons.
true, also noticed that there's no "winter form" results drop. It happens, but not exactly on winter which is make more sense
I'm enjoying the libero in the middle of a back 3 much more as well. It seems to work so much better even its traditional position in addition to being able to use it in a back 4.
This sounds awesome. I skipped FM23 and haven’t played 23 in over 6 months. I loved what I heard about 24 even before this video and can’t wait to start my 1st save tomorrow
One thing that still annoys me is the transfer market, this year is quite better than last year but still there's a lot of weird things. The first one is how the prices skyrocket after a few years to buy players, I'm playing with Bayer Leverkusen and bought Talles Magno for 6M, in about two years later he was valued 30-40M (Borussia bought him for 42M), in the same season Udinese were relegated in Série A, and Man City Bought Wirtz for 120M, so I thought "ok, I'll buy Samardzic because he plays in the same position as Wirtz and he should be quite cheap because Udinese got relegated"... They were asking 90M for him in his last year of contract, and PSG bought him for 50M a few days later.
The other thing that makes me crazy is how it's almost impossible to offer a player for other player, so, on this same save with Bayer I offered Tapsoba, valued 50M for Arthur Theate from Rennes, valued 40M, Rennes (both were unhappy and wanted to leave) completely ignored my offer, asked 70M plus Tapsoba and I was like "??????" Dude, I'm offering you a better player, in the same position, my guy wants to leave, your guy wants to leave, let them freaking leave... So, yeah, I'm enjoying a lot FM24 but the transfer window it's a fucking NIGHTMARE
It's nice to know about the match engine improvements. I've been playing FM23 for the past 2 months and the amount of shots that hit the woodwork in a single match is crazy, never fails to grind my gears.
The number of times goals would be chalked off for offside also seemed a bit excessive, certainly in my save.
@@jd-rm4ez I also had a not so good experience. I'm certainly waiting for updates so I can play it again.
And one thing that happened to me, players mutinied cause they said the squad was short. With one little detail, my team had a pregame transfer ban 🙄
Wasn't going to buy the game this year because I thought it was going to be exactly like FM 23 and I am glad I bought the game during early access. First season with luton and won both cups and was thoroughly enjoying playing FM again and when I got off I wanted to play more. SI did an amazing job on this years game to make it feel fun to play again
I wasn't that averse to FM 23, but I agree that after spending some time in Early Access, I don't think I'll ever look back to older FMs. And I'm glad that FM24 turns out to be great, because with Unity coming, I'm not sure if that might be the last FM I'm playing, as I can't see myself playing the game on console and don't know what my PC might have to say about FM25.
This said, there's still things that drive me nuts about the engine, because as someone that used to play the game for 30 years and has been a trainer myself, there's still a lot of off the ball movements that really make me scratch my head. It's not as pronounced as it used to be and that I'm playing third league might factor into that, but there's still movements especially from the wide players that don't make any sense and would probably put those players on the bench if it happened that often in real life. It's not even that I'm experimenting with new roles or try some fancy tactics that hasn't existed for I don't know 50 years as of now, so I have not the slightest idea why the players do some of the things they do. And it certainly doesn't help that opponents have become much better at exploiting those weaknesses (even though I love to see those passes played, they look beautiful). Little rant aside, I have to admit that I'm much more focussing on those little details, because a lot of the glaring mismovements from former FMs seem to be a thing of the past. So yes, I have a lot of fun with that game, and I can easily see myself tons of hours with it (though with my team completely overperforming this season, it seems that I set myself up for a rude awakening next year ^-^).
FM 23 was shit. You couldn’t win anything on that game because a team 20th place would hammer you 3-0 if you’re top of the table and high flying, it’s fucking hot garbage: stop lying.
It’s awesome. Continuing my Guillermo Brown save in the Argentinian second division and it is so much better. I can finally get rid of players that won’t leave and the overall improvements have just made the game time on Sundays so much better
I've been critical of SI for certain features that have been poorly implemented so far but I do agree with every point made in this video they have done a great job on those.
9:15 - speaking of nerdy immersion things. For years now I've been waiting for more realistic behaviour not on the pitch but in the stands. Correct and individual spectator animations according to the match situation instead of synchronized swimming on dry land would make a monstrous difference to immersion and the match engine overall.
gotta say, normally i skip most of your intro's but this one was really funny
I absolutely agree with you on all points , the game processing is really fast for a fact, i play fm on my old laptop that can barely run database of 6 countries , and in fm24 the same settings but game flyes !
I love it. I loved FM23 too, but the match engine changes alone this year are worth the money. I’ve already started my long term save at Chester
That's great news as I only buy FM every second year and this year I'm buying it but first have a new laptop on the way!
I am not gonna lie FM24 make me so happy and excited for FM25 more and more.
As someone still playing FM20, it seems like its a actually time for an upgrade
Yeah, I'm still playing FM20 myself. Actually, I loaded up my old FM2010 save a few weeks ago and have been having a blast with it!
I play with almost every country and league in the game activated and playable, so as realistic as possible. If FM24 really is faster then I will be interested to see how it handles compared to FM23 that I am playing today
Nice Geylang International Football Club jersey. Thanks for supporting Singapore football!
I'm still wondering how he got it haha 😂
I think Zealand hits the nail on the head when he talks about craving. Not sure what it is - probably a 'the whole is more than the sums of the part - style deal, but there's something that makes me crave playing FM24. Much more than 23 or 22.
Find myself thinking about it all the time. Get angry with people as I say to myself 'why am I wasting time talking to this idiot, when I could be playing FM24.
And all the little quality of life things. Chef kiss.
Ahh youre wearing the Geylang International FC jersey, a club based in the Singapore Premier League (SPL). Nice shoutout
Thank you! Was trying to pause and see it
I love the fact that now Keppers can get injured in the match.
They could before its not new
@@jondoe-qi3vo Not really, they were almost never injured during the match. I haven't seen it at least in the last few versions.
100% they way the players move , goals , blocked shots , movements , everything is new , and each game feels different , they did a great job , but the injuries man , way too many injuries
Do you perhaps play a high pressing system? I play a low block counter attack style and I haven't faced nowhere near the amount of injuries I see people complaining about and I manage in Brazil which is known for its nightmarish schedule.
Real life is presenting us with a lot of injuries so it is just realistic
i really enjoyed signing poull kallsberg from a faroese club in fm23.. excited for fm24
What I like in this game is long shots, they feel maybe a bit broken but in FM23 every tactic required work ball into box to prevent anyone from trying a long shot that wasn't gonna score 90% of the time, even if they had good long shot rating, instead of passing it to your free striker.
If anything I think I have the opposite this year. I have a bunch of players with 9-12 long shots who just bang them in for fun.
No matter the set piece tactics i do even on default i cant score when the game is on comprehensive but u score lots on highlight mode. Do i basically play it short n i score in comprehensive mode.
So excited for fm25, its gonna be crazy
Hey Zealand. Could you ask FM to provide access to a database with the details of the career of the play, not just the recent club he has managed but all clubs over the course of the years with all matches. Like it could be an elaboration on the history of the manager or the player, including individual and annual states of managers and of players alike.
Gonna be a good year zeeland
Will watch all of ur streams from portugal ❤
I enjoy any FM game, been playing since CM97/98 it’s finding the time to play that is the problem for me. So repetitive games don’t tend to keep me invested.
The last few have felt very similar and I haven’t played much. Fm24 feels like it’s worth finding the time for. Loving it so far.
There’s a bug with defending corners where a player with stay on edge of the area doesn’t do that and tries to man mark, happens to me a lot, quite annoying. The rest about set pieces is fantastic.
omg yes the final point. i used to do other things while spamming continue but on this version after 2-3 clicks its already the next game day... soo refreshing
Hmm, after FM22 and FM23 I was going to skip a year and focus on other games while awaiting the move to Unity. But you have made me reconsider. Especially because the improvements are match engine related.
It’s great that you’re wearing a Singaporean football team, Geylang International jersey. ❤👍🏻
This video might have got me back on FM. Last played pre-Covid so I have been looking at the last 2 version but found them lacking.
Set pieces (with new coach for it) and JLeague might swing me. In-game play enhanced. All good stuff
Then you looks fired up and I will hope weeks to come you present even more ups or downs with this version. Think it's time for me to get back but been waiting for the Right version. Next years version got so much new things with graphic that it surely will mess up and take another 2-3 years to settle.
Thanks for this video and good info on FM24
Welp, apparently they've bungled the JLeague stuff and aren't adding it until a later date, so just a heads up there.
@@Toniodomino95 Later date ? That's ominous. Could be anytime, even fm25 if we are unlucky. It is the hardest thing to mod when those updates in January comes out from SI, all is messed up with players moving there and from. Thanks for warning.
is it worth to buy when youre relatively short on money or should i wait for 25 and keep playing 23?
Z is the reason why I got fm24. I'm having a blast playing with my hometown club. Managing the players I actually know and went to school with. I reconnected with many of them. Thx z
Hi david mate , really apreciate your uploads and cant wait untill midnight , quick queston , iif we can continue a 23 save to 24 , surely we could do 24 to 25 , everyone sais about the unity engine , but goddammit im not waiting i year , i need my fm fix
My favorite thing so far is prolly small for others but I always play small leagues and nation build and I’ve been getting emails on wether league signs new tv deals and the money involved
I played the original Championship Manager - yeahz the one eithout the licence for real players so all the player names were autogenerated at the stsrt of every game. I played every iteration of CM (including the divine CM Italia from back when foreign football was super exotic) into FM up until 2013. By then olayability had been sacrificed for detail and the graphics and speed of the game ruined it. I havent been back since other than the occasional game on FM2010, which I soon get bored of. Its great to hear that this year's game has improved in so many ways. Youre tempting me back in, which is no bad thing when both winter is about to hit and my son is now old enough to try this out.
I got a beast of a pc but theres just something abou the 2D view that makes me use it often. My first fm was the 2004 version.
someone who has played fm16 on steam every year, I 100% agree with all the points Z, Will say at someone point deflections may get to a point that they will annoy us but rather this then what we had previously. If they (SI) can get on top of the player interactions (some of the bugs in the beta with promises etc) This will be the best FM ive played (till fm 25 which will be nuts).
I haven’t played FM since 14, before that I played it consistently every year since the champ days. Been thinking about playing it again, is 24 the one to get or should I pick up a different version? I do like the bit you said about tactics as that’s what I love the most, creating my own tactics.
one of the best updates for me is players not missing an open goal anymore because they want to take the longest to shoot
Fr, they shoot at an open goal like passing a ball to a 9 year-old for me
Having fm2015 be my first FM the game has changed so much since back then and I'm all for it
Everytime i played fm previously. After match - read news - praise/warn player - holiday until next game.
The best thing on fm24 is I never use that holiday feature again right now. Best update is the game run very fast. Very enjoy the game this year
yo Z as i was watching the volley into the ground part, abraham just nodded a bolted into the ground to score😂
This game feels so much better to watch. Like leaps and bounds in terms of quality. Also the dynamics system on Xbox seems to be more interesting than they said cause some of the choices you can make help players develop “new skills” e.g. Joao Felix developed “the Felix flick”
Might finally do a watch all 90 mins save
Nishimura absolutely bagging the goals.
Can't wait for the full release and my journey with Roda JC in the dutch second division! However, don't trust your set piece coach unconditionally. I let my spc (set piece coach) do everything and assign all of the roles. This made me RB go up and take the offensive throw in on the left side. Of course he messed it up and they managed to counter on the side where he was suppose to be.. I took control and made sure he didn't take any thrown ins on the left side. And no, he is just a right back and can't play on the left which could have been an explanation.
I can’t wait to get FM 24, I feel is the most significant Fm ever made.
Hi Z, after watching this I got FM24, I would like to ask you and your watchers a question. I am interrested in a save to build from youth and have them play in the national team. Now I dont want to take over the national team like a build the nation. So which country would be good for my idea? I was thinking about Island.
The playing time is REALLY noticeable on bullshit loaded databases. For context, I'm continuing an "Hexagon Hard Mode" save from FM23 on FM24 (save game compatibility is the biggest feature imho) and that save has at least one active league from every country. Processing a week on those conditions was taxing for FM23 (way heavier than FM17 and 21, my previous Hexagons starting points), come FM24 and it's around 3 times faster, give or take. Easilly the most noticeable feature for me!
Does it actually make a difference watching the game or just having it on 2D? is it not pre-determined by all done before it and half time talks etc? Cheers, Keep up the good work.
are the new signings from the summer transfer window in place? And is lamine yamal in the game?
In your Inbox when you click 'remove from shortlist', do they actually remove them from the your shortlist?
Is itn easier to sell players rather than the same excuses from teams?
Do they still ask the same boring, repetitive questions from the media?
Is there any improvement to free kicks? Can you implememt creative routines and what not, or is corners that is the winner? I mean, a great free kick always wins against a good corner im my book
I agree with the take, I've got over a hundred hours in the early access already and its noticeably improved. Loving fm24.
Early access has been great game fees smoother and just generally better
12:50 gonna start calling ramen Oodles of Noodles again 🫡
Is that a Geylang International F.C jersey that you're wearing in this video?
Been to Faroe Islands. Have to say... Just a teeny weeny bit let down by that. From the pictures it looks very nice, and it is nice. Took a boat trip, that was cool, and at least one restaurant had a pretty good lamb shank. you'll find it. But outside of the capital there's barely anywhere to stop for a coffee/beer/whatever. It could possibly be nice if you go there to do some kind of sporting activities like hiking or other stuff, didn't try that.
I like the game but one thing that needs a major re-do is the transfer values of players, at least in the prem. It makes no sense that Bournemouth have several €70m players. And it makes even less sense that I could theoretically sell them to saudi for 100m or more. it just makes the game too easy if you are in a premier league club.
Big Z. You are without a doubt one of the most entertaining YT creators out there.
Aw mate, you missed a cracking opportunity at the start to say, "Here's a word from today's sponsor. Sports Interactive".
First one I bought since 2021. Great video :) you always makes me laugh
I have been wondering, when there will be commentary I'm fm, it would be hella amazing with commentary
I never play the beta, just watch all the videos that emerge and get excited for it and, based on what I've seen, I'm more hyped than normal
Look forward to it mate, I’m lucky enough to have it and it’s a big improvement
Great video, I am loving fm 24 early access
Is it on nintendo switch not showing up upcoming games but says its out on the 6th November???
I’m trying to get in FM. Should I start with FM24? Is there going to be a sale soon? I’m on pc
Zealand wearing Geylang International kit 🇸🇬
Will you be doing a skin this year?
looking forward to it
Mr Zealand. Do you have any tips on managing big clubs? I keep finding the overwhelming number of players...well big. I prefer smaller clubs like those in the national league
It would be useful to have a video for new players showing how players with different roles move
I had a GK injured in match for the first time ever
same here
Nagato making use of The Rinnegan there
Fm23 was my first one. Ive played it for over 2000 hours. I prepurchased fm24
I had one issue with FM24 and that was a red card where my player never even touched the opponent
Honestly can't wait for SI to use Unity next year (yes I am talking about next years version without this years even being released yet), what they have achieved with this years version of FM is commendable. Once they introduce Unity, it becomes almolst limitless to what they can do with the match engine. To name a few:
Matchday experience.
Stadium atmospheres.
Manager camera angle: This in itself can introduce to immersive experiences for the player, including bench animations yours and the oppositions. Throwing shade at the fourth official, because why not. Telling Klopp to sit still or tell Pep that without Haaland he's nothing (Haaland need nerfing just for the sake of my sanity.
Although I am aware this is only a "simulation" game, I strongly believe this game can rival the FIFA's of the world or EA FC whatever its called nowadays.
The issue is with player licences - if you'd had Fifa-like graphics but no licences most of the players would have to look differently
@@ChaoPakKei It's exactly what happened, I was big into playing career mode on FIFA, but since picking my first FM, it completely changed my outlook on football video games.
@@mavisu0 Very good point, however I've played FIFA long enough to put up with players not looking like their real life counterpart. And when they started getting these licenses for players, I thought og it as a nice touch more than anything, but that personal preference I suppose.
i miiiiight have started the games in 2d, due to easily see positinal play and see if any roles are not working well togeher, and i have had issues with inverted wingback on attack holding hands with my RCM, so was easy to spot and adjusted it!
but then i turned on 3d in game.. and i was shocked on how good it is this year, besides the fact graphics looks like from 2007, but fm 2024 seems so far like a huge step up and im way too hyped to play it this year lol
@@MaulwurfBuddelflink would be good bisiniss if I did get paid, instead I have to pay them and "enjoy" the games the years it was lackluster!