4 Unwritten Rules Of Doing Business in Indonesia
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Hi Folks,
In this video I am going to share some unwritten business practices foreigners need to be aware of before starting a business in Indonesia. The list isn't exhaustive and I won't go into nitty gritty details or naming any institution.
Aim of this video is to prep you what to expect at street level. Yes, unwritten business practices mentioned here are unsavoury but it's better to see reality as it is so we can best prepare our responses.
I am still waiting for the day where rules of law are enforced indiscriminately and people act with utmost integrity. In perfect world this video won't be necessary.
Indonesian phrases mentioned in this video:
Uang Rokok: literally means cigarette money. It's coded word to illicit bribery or facilitation money
Uang Keamanan: money paid to provide for security. it's coded word in preman's world to extort business owners.
Uang Pelicin: facilitation money to smooth things out e.g. procuring necessary licenses or securing tender.
UUD (Ujung-Ujungnya Duit): at the end of the day it's all about money. Humorous derivation from UUD abbreviation (Undang-Undang Dasar) - Indonesian 1945 Constitution.
Pungutan Liar (Pungli): illegal charge extorted by shady officials or 'Preman' (see below). Usually dressed up as 'Uang Keamanan'.
Preman: street thugs or gangster. Sometimes act as hired hands to intimidate rivals, collect debtors or 'protest for a cause'.
Kena tipu: being deceived, scammed, back stabbed.
Kalau bisa dibikin susah kenapa harus gampang: why make it easy if you can make it hard. Sarcasm, usually uttered out of frustration with bureaucracy.
Tolong dibantu ya Pak: please help us smooth things out Sir.
Nanti ada uang rokok: I'll compensate for your trouble.
Wish you all the best running business in Indonesia.
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Hendra
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Have any experience running business in Indonesia? please share your insights in comment, thanks :)
Masalah seperti ini bisa dibilang mendarah daging, karena bukan cuma dari kalangan atas dan menengah tapi yang paling bawah pun dari dulu sudah ada, awalnya saya kira hal seperti ini di dunia bisnis hanya bagi orang-orang kelas menengah atau keatas tapi ternyata kenyataan berkata lain, dan saya bilang begini karena waktu saya jualan sebagai pedagang kaki lima di pasar dadakan tiap hari dan tiap bulan ada namanya uang keamanan dan kadang hati saya sedih banget dengan kenyataan kayak gini, mereka tidak memikirkan apakah hari ini kita bisa makan apa tidak, modal bisa diputar balik apa tidak pun mereka tidak perduli dan pengalaman saya tadi saat terjadinya pandemi di Indonesia
Terimakasih pak atas sarannya dan maaf saya curhat disini
Nah ini dia yg bikin keselin, yg buka usaha capek2 diperas sana sini ama preman. Koq minta maaf, saya yg terima kasih atas sharingnya. Bener2 gak nyangka pedagang kaki lima juga sampe diperas, mudah2an Ke depan rejeki lebih lancar
@@Hendra23155 amin pak, dan anehnya atau miris bisa dibilang itu adalah preman berkedok ormas, tujuannya katanya untuk masyarakat tpi ormas bisa berjalan itu dengan cara pungli kemana2
Saya juga,tidak dipungli tapi kios diganggu beberapa preman sampai omzet drop 80%....mau pindah tempat jualan berarti tambah ongkos sewa lahan,belum lagi ada kekuatiran dipungli.
Ah damn. I recently visited Indonesia and took notice of the investment opportunities there. Did some math while on vacation and started to think it seemed too good to be true. Now it makes more sense. Bribes to government bureaucrats, bribes to local gangs, ah yes now it's starting to feel like a third world country.
You are not talking about robotrading are you? Haha. People still fall for get rich quick schemes :)
@@Hendra23155 Haha no, I was thinking about building a boarding house or hotel or something. My girlfriend is Indonesian so if we got married she could own the land in her name. And from what I could tell, building a small hotel is cheaper than owning a modest American home... But maybe not when you factor in bribes.
@@Navak_ haha paying for bribe is just like paying an application fee in Indo. Not saying it’s the right thing to do. It is what it is unfortunately.
What you explained in this video it’s the situation about twenty years ago. Now is the situation in Indonesia much more better!
I made this video after speaking to a small business owner friend going back to Sydney for good and some Jakarta based friends as well in case my pre-pandemic observation becomes obsolete (visited my hometown 3 years ago before pandemic). If what you are saying is true then it’s fantastic news!!
I don't know where you live in indonesia but it's still true today. If you want to run you business smoothly then you have to tax "the side tax."
Damn.. 😆
"Famous ytber like me"
I'm dead 😂😂
Ameenn for that tho
ameeen hahahaha
Hi Hendra! Thank you again for another great video! I am so grateful for your advice; it will be invaluable when doing business in Jakarta! Have a very happy and prosperous Chinese New Year!
Glad it was helpful! Wish your business great success Stu!
Itu sangat menarik, terima kasih,
Terima kasih kembali:)
Wow dear friend you are right
Thanks my friend, I wish I am wrong.
@@Hendra23155 Dear friend I want to know some things from you that I can earn money by driving in that country
It's same in all the third world countries, pay bribe to the officials and get your business documents legalised
Unfortunately you are probably right :(
is it?
I am going to open small business. Unfortunaly one consultnat who took money from me and runaway
So sorry to hear that. Words of mouth recommendation from someone you trust is the best, please let me know if you have any questions around business I will do my best to answer
Asian countries aspire to become the next Singapore. Developing countries allow citizens to took advantage of their loopholes, soon this extra cost will destroy an entire nations.
People taking advantage of loopholes are everywhere. In Indonesia they'll make their own holes where loopholes don't exist. Corruption, collusion and nepotism are so rampant. I can't imagine becoming developed country with that mentality.
@@Hendra23155 Foreigners benefit from cheap labours compared to the west, I think all the advanced investments on IT, Web 3 will diminish corruption worldwide.
Is fraud is legal in Indonesia? Jawa eye application looted millions of dollars seting in bali,
Fraud is illegal everywhere my friend 😅
Salah satu alasan kenapa gak mau jadi civil worker, PNS, anything along those jobs : mentalitasnya busuk. Isinya gabut. Duit aspirasi. Duit bancakan.
Meanwhile, when we try to make our own business, the hurdles just always there. I mean, the system itself is the hurdle.
Another problem is, the govt. forbide people to do this or that, but it cannot provide necessities for people to living. Such as, opening cafe above 8 p.m when lockdown. The reason is right. But, how they act toward people are harsh. The result, it was a really heartbreaking dispute.
Policeman : "YOU HAVE TO CLOSE THE CAFE. RIGHT. NOW !!!"
Cafe owner : "Yes. We know that. But, YOU'RE NOT IN OUR POSITIONS !!! YOU HAVE STABLE MONTHLY SALARY !!! BUT WHAT ABOUT US ???? I NEED TO FEED MY FAMILY, MY EMPLOYERS !!!! DOES THE GOVT. FEED THEM ???!!!! NO !!!! IT. IS. ME !!!!"
Policeman : ".................." (dead silent)
Oknum birokrasi emank bobrok, banyak denger crita horror dari temen2. Pandemic emank bikin semua org susah tp bantuan talangan pemerintah minim. Mudah2an keadaan makin membaik biar kita semua lbh lancar cari makan
@@Hendra23155 aamiin.
Iya kang. Temen pun sempet kena kendala pas ngurusin dana BOS di sekolah. Saya yang dengar ceritanya pun ketawa, trus bilang, aku itu bolak.balik pindah kerja itu ya itu alasannya, sistem kita udah rusak, ke akar2nya. Hasilnya, ya macam saya sekarang ini, kerjaan gak stabil. Megang prinsip emang berat, income gak jelas, gak stabil.
Tinggal pilih, mau kerja stabil tapi sistemnya bobrok, apa mau kerja sesuai kata hati, tapi penghasilan gak pasti.
Kebetulan juga, tes psikologi saya jaman kelas 1 SMA dulu, kira2 15 tahun lalu, salah satunya jadi wiraswasta. Alias, butuh otonomi sendiri. Bener2 kerasa, gak bisa diatur2 orang. Mentok jadinya mitra, bukan karyawan. Berat ? Jelas iya. Jadi kadang2 cekcok sama orang.
Ada juga yang cerita, awalnya sales, jelas kompetitif, trus nyoba jadi PNS. Ternyata bener, dia ngerasa kek gini amat jadi PNS. Enakan jadi swasta, lebih terlatih. Gabut bener jadi PNS. Bukan ngejelekin PNS, faktanya emang demikian.
@@lelouchlamperouge3077 Megang prinsip emang berat=> nah! gak banyak yg kek gini. Bykan embat duit trus tutup mata. Pegang prinsip biar berat dlm hati lbh damai and ada self-respect.
Beberapa temen balik Sydney kerja jd pegawai padahal di Indo bs jd boss tinggal lanjut usaha ortu. Hati gk tenang liat praktek di lapangan, terlalu kotor. Disini paling gk hatinya bs damai.
@@Hendra23155 guru saya sendiri yang bisa dikatakan jadi panutan orang, tempat rujukan kalo ada masalah, sampe bupati pun pay respect ke beliau, mengamini kok kalo orang2 kita ya emang udah busuk kek gitu sistemnya. Susah mau dibenerin. Udah membudaya.
Serius, beneran berat megang prinsip disini. Megang prinsip, tapi duit jadi dikit. Lepas prinsip, auto kaya. Pernah dicritain bahkan, kalo ada proyek anggaplah nilai 1T, realisasinya paling 300M. 700M nya ? Buat bancakan, duit dibagi2. Gilak...... I feel soooo disappointed... Malu banget. Beda sama orang luar yang dianggap negeri kafir, tapi mereka kerjanya jujur, punya prinsip, menghargai orang. Disini malah kebalik. Begitulah ujian Tuhan. Sekuat apa kita bisa megang prinsip di tengah badai. Ini perkara sampai hidup sesudah mati nanti, bukan cuma perkara perut kenyang doang di dunia yang sebentar ini.
Sy punya teman org London. Dia menjelek jelekan orang2 indonesia. Katanya orang indonesia suka kawin campur suka tinggal bersama sebelum menikah seperti yang dilakukan negara barat. Dan punya anak dr hasil tinggal bersama sebelum menikah. Dan banyak lagi... Katanya moral oran indonesia itu rusak. Tolong kalau bisa buatkan vidio dan luruskan pandangan ini.. Please...
Have business in here is a big risk.
Oh ok, lot of my friends going back for good because business opportunity is much better in Indonesia. They accept pungli as an unfortunate reality