Man I install these everyday at work seeing you use the wrong head socket kills me. I've literally got a bunch of these at work would've sent you one 🙃
I would sure appreciate some information on where to buy parts I want to put a system in my home in Missouri new construction not required but just think it would be awesome 417-825-0160 thanks
You could have just done the hydraulic calculations to determine the head's flow. This would be accomplished by calculating the water pressure as it enters the structure and a flow test the size of the orifice through the outdoor hydrant less any static for the length of the pipe going to the head. This system (one head) would not even begin to fall under NFPA standards. And would fall under your local Authority Having Jurisdiction. NFPA 13D is for residential dwellings where the system protects life safety in the event of a fire allowing the occupants to exit the building. They often will put out or contain the fire but that is not the primary intent of the system. I understand the minimal approach to the system but the test that you did for the inspector was not required as simple calculations could have been done using the apparatus you made using a hose fitting and conducting the test outside of the structure all the while the inspector could have inspected the actual installation inside the building at the same time. In conclusion, I would advise the AHJ to have their own test equipment as specified above to conduct such a test! The stove/range is however the highest hazard rating in the structure but the NFPA 13D does not cover the actual kitchen appliance and is only for cooling the area around such appliance. The standard for residential fire protection for a stove /range would be a multi-type fire extinguishing system ABC that would fall under a non-water system in a residence. I would also advise the AHJ to require a 2# ABC-rated fire extinguisher within so many feet of the appliance.
I want you guys to note: not using the Head wrench for the correct head can damage the head, help create false trips flooding your home or place of work, voids the head warranty. the Spec sheet on the sprinkler heads will tell you what type of head wrench you need for the sprinkler head.
If it’s to the point of activating a sprinkler head it’s well beyond being just a grease fire, dude. There’s a reason commercial kitchens have sprinklers in addition to hood suppression.
You do that to install them heads and it voids the warranty! You need the correct head wrench. I've installed fire sprinklers for 14 years. If you just protecting the stove you should have a dry chemical hood type system.
Over the stove I don’t know what code is but that doesn’t sound good I imagine the most common stove fire is a grease fire and a bunch of water sprayed on a grease fire isn’t going to end well
In order for the sprinkler head to be activated, the temperature at the ceiling has to be significant, a grease fire will not increase the temperature at the ceiling level to the to the level necessary to turn on the sprinkler head. The point is if the sprinkler head goes off your house is on fire not the grease.
Thank you, something else, am planning install around 28 sprinklers, when inspector show up, all needs to be installed, and he gone choose which sprinkler, or I can be ready with anyone.
@@alexspcs8688 your initial question implied that you might only be installing one sprinkler head. If I had to install multiple sprinkler heads, I would’ve had to had a technical specifications produced by fire design company. The sprinkler head specifically is determined by the application and the drawings and specifications. There is absolutely no way for me to make these determinations from the two simple question you have asked. Also, I am not a certified fire suppression system installer or designer, so you really should refer to one of those type of individuals.
Unfortunately, there has been a significant price increase since I purchase this, however, with that being said, the sprinkler head includes a sheet rock cover plate that assists in mounting. It also includes decorative cover plate that is designed to drop off at a certain temperature and the sprinkler head is designed to go off at 202°F which depending on your location is a requirement many of the other ones that I looked at after your comment did not meat any of these requirements and yes, the other ones are very expensive as comparison. But you’re not comparing apples and apples with the other sprinkler heads.
Sprinkler heads are installed in the center of the room not on the range hood. You can buy a stovetop firestop system for less than $100 at Home Depot or Amazon. It is attached to the range hood by a magnet and is an automatic dry extinguisher system that is commonly found in many apartment units.
In western Washington there’s an allowance for this specific single sprinkler head above a stove in a residential single-family dwelling to be installed by the primary owner or builder of the home.
at about 4:45 ...thats a galvanized 3" nipple and the valve is called a quarter turn, not a ninety degree... be precise not lazy with language BUT otherwise great video, thanks!
And a small fire could turn into loss of life for you and your family. Your an absolute moron. Nothing for rewarding as a sprinkler fitter than coming to a service call of a fire and the sprinkler system out the fire out and there was very minimal damage and no loss of life.
@@fitter5423 In Washington state, where this guy lives, you are three times more likely to be the victim of homicide than to die in a fire. I'm generally a safety conscious person, but systems that raise the floor cost of housing and contribute to our ongoing housing affordability crisis are not things I can get behind. I just don't see the benefit of these systems outweighing the costs.
@goatofdeath Perhaps for retrofit. But for new construction these sprinklers would tap off the cold water piping. You’d be testing it every time you turned on a cold tap. The reduced insurance cost and enhanced resale value should pay for the incremental materials and labor. The safety increase - priceless.
@@goatofdeath you also don't need auto insurance until you need it or you don't need to wear your seal belt until you wish you were wearing it. Automatic fire sprinklers are an insurance. Automatic fire sprinkler systems insure that you and your family (young, elderly or disabled have time to evacuate the home). Automatic fire sprinklers are life safety systems that also preserve property aka your investment. They are the first responders on site and are on duty 24/7.
I wish there was more fire sprinkler content on CZcams. I’ve been working at a company for a couple of months and crave content haha
@plasma9839, are you in texas?, what do you need to be in a sprinkler company?
Sounds like a side hustle to me! 🎉 Please make videos about what you're learning!
Check out nics systems and garage (something something) he does a lot of fire alarm and sprinkler stuff.
Don't wait 20 years to join the union
I just bought a 36mm deep well Husky socket. Thanks for the tip
That was impressive, thank you for showing everything, I never knew it was so involved to install that sprinkler.
Man I install these everyday at work seeing you use the wrong head socket kills me. I've literally got a bunch of these at work would've sent you one 🙃
I would sure appreciate some information on where to buy parts I want to put a system in my home in Missouri new construction not required but just think it would be awesome 417-825-0160 thanks
Send me one. I’m about to install it myself
Great video. You helped me a lot with my plans for fire sprinklers.
They say necessity is the mother of invention, but I'm pretty sure "Fuck that, that's too expensive" is the father of it
You could have just done the hydraulic calculations to determine the head's flow. This would be accomplished by calculating the water pressure as it enters the structure and a flow test the size of the orifice through the outdoor hydrant less any static for the length of the pipe going to the head. This system (one head) would not even begin to fall under NFPA standards. And would fall under your local Authority Having Jurisdiction. NFPA 13D is for residential dwellings where the system protects life safety in the event of a fire allowing the occupants to exit the building. They often will put out or contain the fire but that is not the primary intent of the system. I understand the minimal approach to the system but the test that you did for the inspector was not required as simple calculations could have been done using the apparatus you made using a hose fitting and conducting the test outside of the structure all the while the inspector could have inspected the actual installation inside the building at the same time. In conclusion, I would advise the AHJ to have their own test equipment as specified above to conduct such a test! The stove/range is however the highest hazard rating in the structure but the NFPA 13D does not cover the actual kitchen appliance and is only for cooling the area around such appliance. The standard for residential fire protection for a stove /range would be a multi-type fire extinguishing system ABC that would fall under a non-water system in a residence. I would also advise the AHJ to require a 2# ABC-rated fire extinguisher within so many feet of the appliance.
Who was the AHJ?
Cool video and really don't see why these aren't standard in new builds. Can't cost that much VS what it could save.
Another question where did you end up going for the reducer tee, bracket, and the test flow setup items?
Great question, would love to know what these things are called...
Water sprinklers are not supposed to be over a stove. Water can cause a grease fire. A powder system is placed over the stove.
I want you guys to note: not using the Head wrench for the correct head can damage the head, help create false trips flooding your home or place of work, voids the head warranty. the Spec sheet on the sprinkler heads will tell you what type of head wrench you need for the sprinkler head.
That was excellent!
Grease fire on a stove + water could be bad!
Extremely bad
That is very true f inspectors lol
Sprinklers have a liquid in them that makes them work for those too
@@Avianca-rr3rf haha no, it goes directly to your main water source in the house. (which is water)
If it’s to the point of activating a sprinkler head it’s well beyond being just a grease fire, dude. There’s a reason commercial kitchens have sprinklers in addition to hood suppression.
Unless you are doing diy drywall and hang 1/2”, ceilings are generally 5/8”
You do that to install them heads and it voids the warranty! You need the correct head wrench. I've installed fire sprinklers for 14 years. If you just protecting the stove you should have a dry chemical hood type system.
@joshua torres Agreed. It’s a safety system - it’d be worth it to me to know I was using the correct tool.
Like to know more about it.
Over the stove
I don’t know what code is but that doesn’t sound good
I imagine the most common stove fire is a grease fire and a bunch of water sprayed on a grease fire isn’t going to end well
In order for the sprinkler head to be activated, the temperature at the ceiling has to be significant, a grease fire will not increase the temperature at the ceiling level to the to the level necessary to turn on the sprinkler head. The point is if the sprinkler head goes off your house is on fire not the grease.
Question, in house which gone be used for commercial business, can I use pex pipe or needs to be water pipe, thank you, great tutorial
Pex is water pipe, yes you can use pex.
Thank you, something else, am planning install around 28 sprinklers, when inspector show up, all needs to be installed, and he gone choose which sprinkler, or I can be ready with anyone.
@@alexspcs8688 your initial question implied that you might only be installing one sprinkler head. If I had to install multiple sprinkler heads, I would’ve had to had a technical specifications produced by fire design company. The sprinkler head specifically is determined by the application and the drawings and specifications. There is absolutely no way for me to make these determinations from the two simple question you have asked. Also, I am not a certified fire suppression system installer or designer, so you really should refer to one of those type of individuals.
Do you have the link for that water pressure gauge?
👍 nice job
TK u
The sprinkler head you used (link above) shows as $88 but there are many at < $15 - why?
Unfortunately, there has been a significant price increase since I purchase this, however, with that being said, the sprinkler head includes a sheet rock cover plate that assists in mounting. It also includes decorative cover plate that is designed to drop off at a certain temperature and the sprinkler head is designed to go off at 202°F which depending on your location is a requirement many of the other ones that I looked at after your comment did not meat any of these requirements and yes, the other ones are very expensive as comparison. But you’re not comparing apples and apples with the other sprinkler heads.
@@DanielWoodell I need a hands-on comparison..with a Uponor sales person next to me ....I don't get 4x price difference.
So for oven fires? This would spread a grease fire
Sprinkler heads are installed in the center of the room not on the range hood. You can buy a stovetop firestop system for less than $100 at Home Depot or Amazon. It is attached to the range hood by a magnet and is an automatic dry extinguisher system that is commonly found in many apartment units.
doesn't municipalities require fire sprinklers to be installed by certified technicians?
In western Washington there’s an allowance for this specific single sprinkler head above a stove in a residential single-family dwelling to be installed by the primary owner or builder of the home.
I would not trust the Opinar system.
Hey Daniel, What is the brand name for these sprinkler parts ? Seem like a good idea for my out buildings !! J. W. Ladder II, retired .
I believe he said the system was from Uponor.
look at the video notes : Uponor AquaSAFE
Thanks, does the sprinkler need a Shut off valve
No because you can shut the water off at your meter.
at about 4:45 ...thats a galvanized 3" nipple and the valve is called a quarter turn, not a ninety degree... be precise not lazy with language BUT otherwise great video, thanks!
You lost me as soon as you used Teflon tape. Use pipe dope - far better/more reliable.
@Mitchell Nova I wonder if the teflon tape lobby paid for those results? Just a thought.
No! I'm Here To Warn You ! Lmao not sure if your kidding
I’m not a fan of fire sprinkler. Single malfunction can cause catastrophic damage.
And a small fire could turn into loss of life for you and your family. Your an absolute moron. Nothing for rewarding as a sprinkler fitter than coming to a service call of a fire and the sprinkler system out the fire out and there was very minimal damage and no loss of life.
I truly hope your last comment wasn’t for me....
@@fitter5423 In Washington state, where this guy lives, you are three times more likely to be the victim of homicide than to die in a fire. I'm generally a safety conscious person, but systems that raise the floor cost of housing and contribute to our ongoing housing affordability crisis are not things I can get behind. I just don't see the benefit of these systems outweighing the costs.
@goatofdeath Perhaps for retrofit. But for new construction these sprinklers would tap off the cold water piping. You’d be testing it every time you turned on a cold tap. The reduced insurance cost and enhanced resale value should pay for the incremental materials and labor. The safety increase - priceless.
@@goatofdeath you also don't need auto insurance until you need it or you don't need to wear your seal belt until you wish you were wearing it. Automatic fire sprinklers are an insurance. Automatic fire sprinkler systems insure that you and your family (young, elderly or disabled have time to evacuate the home). Automatic fire sprinklers are life safety systems that also preserve property aka your investment. They are the first responders on site and are on duty 24/7.