Sneaky spectates a SCRIPTER (who got BANNED by Riot Vanguard)
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- Sneaky spectates a scripter's final game before he got banned by Riot Vanguard (Riot's anti-cheat system) on June 2, 2024.
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Scripting doesnt only come in the form of auto dodge/aim you know....alot of people would just script for info(cooldowns,ward locations,etc)
Pretty sure just having attack/cast range indicators turned on is pretty big. Scripters who are good at the game in terms of clicking and decision making usually won't use anything but that.
@@yGKeKe Isn't this an option without scripts?
@@user-us3xi7se5bthe scripts show you enemy cast and attack ranges
@@user-us3xi7se5b You have to A click over and over to see attack range but with scripts you can see it perma and not have to A click allowing you more freedom and less work.
@@user-us3xi7se5b I think he is talking about seeing the opponent's ranges and stuff
The E to dodge Warwick wasn't just any spam clicking, it was perfectly perpendicular to Warwick's flight path. A perfect 90 degrees to avoid it the millisecond after just auto attacking the guy.
Warwick?
@@jackspinner4727 Can tell you didn't watch it all, there's a clip of another game cait was in, that had a warwick in it.
@@FieryLeMoonlight ah.
Ive been there and tried to execute that dodge many times and I can confidently say its near impossible to do that. Your reaction speed must be so high and your motion must be so precise else you are ulted gg. Combine it with the auto yeah thats just not possible. Literally inhumane
He was obviously just trying to pick up Yummi faster. Any good player would have done that.
My issue is that cait isnt standing behind minions and is basically baiting pyke hooks because she KNOWS she will dodge them.
Her overconfidence says it all
@@bahamutzero4903 Modern scripts always make the players shooting skillshots look bad. Good players preemptively dodge because they don't have instant reactions, scripts don't even need to flinch because they can instantly calculate the minimum movement required to dodge it before the animation even starts. i.e. don't always dodge instantly (old scripts), but just sidestep minimal amount with fake reaction time to look realistic.
yeah i feel like its so obvious to tell if someone is scripting nowadays, even a bad pyke will land one skillshot
We might have cracked how Vanguard works. If a player is suspicious they are put into games with streamers. Then riot checks the streams audio for the phrase "scripter".
That would be a great anti-cheat system, keep suspicious accounts flagged under suspicion, and then just put them more in the public eye so their antics get caught. Probably the best anti-cheat design ever made, now that I think of it. Peer review and crowdsourcing is the way.
Hahaha
@@Riaining7 2 issues: 1. "scripting" has become a slang for "very good"
2. they could straight up have a system checking for codes not included by them. the information about enemy wards, cooldowns, charging skillshots etc. all could be secured behind a wall or smth. but ofc we're talking about riot here.
If you notice it, all hooks that Pyke landed were when Cait was placing a trap, that's just enough evidence honestly, if the instant trap to Pyke's flash wasn't enough
u can instantly tell by the movement if ur actually a good player that cait is scripting
@@EternalAngel333 are you genuinely calling sneaky not a good player?
@@gingergamerza3611 Man if you were actually good you can tell by movement alone the movement is to circular and way to smooth to be a real human clicking
@@EternalAngel333 hes literally a pro and you call him bad..
@@gingergamerza3611 just because you are in the pro scene does not mean you are really good.
magifelix held 5 accounts in challenger on EUW but isnt pro does that mean he is bad ? no..
the flash predict trap was pretty obvious even if the stuff before wasn't
Not rlly the stand aside was only good dodge really
@@BabyKnxckz The trap is the most obvious example because she locked herself out of movement (so doesn't expect to get flash hooked) and somehow drops the trap in the most perfect position before Pyke Q release animation even starts.
@@Waterfiendz its not that hard placing the trap like that, the e dodge would be the most sus one but also nothing impossible
@@BabyKnxckzit 100% is, when a pyke flash to your face, not even Gumayushi or Ruler 1st reaction would be trap on the spot , im not talking about reaction time im talking about decision, no player in challenger 1st reaction (desicion) in that situation is trap on spot, everyone 100% will try to dodge or E and then trap , like u have to be bad to make that decision of insta trap, or either a software is placing traps for you when someone enters a certain range
@@JanDarkyy yeah hes doing lots of wierd desicions
Don't actually have to review that much, look at the rest of his gameplay compared to the sus elements. He's on a fresh account with an 80% winrate, playing vs Master's tier players, is dodging every skillshot thrown at him, instant reacting to Pyke flash with traps. And walking melee into Draven and is down 30 CS at 10 minutes even though the Draven is 0/4. It's so obviously a bad player scripting.
For you, a lot of what this Caitlyn is doing seems normal. You're a Grandmaster/Challenger tier player and a former pro, in the top .0001% of players worldwide. This Cait is Emerald.
Yeah, most people are complete trash compared to him, even master players look like new players in front of him.. so imagine emerald players. This caitlyn is obviously scripting 200%. The traps are obvious. Everything else is not that obvious but the movment she have, dodging everything while not missing a single occasion to auto attack while dodging AND placing traps.. c'mon, the dude is scripting that's obvious.
And the thing is, I already see 2 scripters in my games since vanguard ( one kogmaw and one jinx ) and vanguard didn't caught them during the game. They were scripting 200%, it was completely obvious. And i'm not the type of guy saying '' he is scripting '' easily, most of the time I just assume the guy is good or is a smuf.
to be fair I've seen high emerald and diamond+ players get into a flow state and play out of their minds. I've played like this before where all your dodges are by the book perfect and you just predict everything that's going to happen. you could explain all the clips individually as well played. too bad the expectancy of an emerald player playing like a korean masters player every game with low cs/fundamentals makes scripting way more likely. the pyke trap predict could just be putting a trap between him and the pyke to stop the dash and then he just flashes. but the way he kepted placing his early traps were so robotic and didn't factor in real player pathing psychology was so obvious. a mid emerald player would understand the basic vait trap placements. this guy kept putting it exactly on champions locations after a flash and in bushes too many times. he's either scripting or legitimately on hallucinogens.
He didn't examine closely enough at this caits play style. He only looked for weird animation dodge canceling. The cheater couldn't even auto space properly on a lone minion wave.
Mate, I was hard stuck gold, then got banned then got into Dia 2 on a fresh account and sometimes when my brain is fired up to 200% I can dodge 10 skillshots in a row. I've been accused of scripting ofc.
He only get hit by skill shots when hes autoing / W ing
Or if he doesn't have vision
He actively dodged one stand aside, idk but you can watch any player and u would find dodges like that
I mean ive had games where Ive dodged skillshots the entire game to near perfection and other games where I ate every blitzcrank hook I could ask for. I feel like the biggest tell tale sign of scripting is character model behavior. I was playing against a senna that would frame perfect cancel her autos every time a skillshot or ability was going to hit her. I had another game where a twitch did this really strange dodge when hugging the wall by moving backwards at an angle into the wall and the biggest tell of the script was whenever he would be in a team fight and our Gwen had her W up his character model would freeze and stop attacking because the script didnt know what to do
However the net backwards from the warwick ult was definitely the biggest script indicator though IMO
Notice how every dodge is EXACTLY perpendicular to the attack. A human would never play like that but a script would do that every time. Even if you were a dodge god you wouldn't always move in an exact 90 degree angle away from the attack.
On thing I notice with scripters is that they don't ping AT ALL, if you look at the chat logs it's been dead silence from Cait the entire game. While yes there were other fishy things like the flash trap predict, the no pings is just a small detail I notice
i saw the clip one day where some streamer played with scripter who predicted janna's q and constantly pinged the spot where it would go to. strange altruistic way to expose themself
I mean i dont ping myself on purpose and i have 14+ years of league. pinging is annoying af, i report people on my team who ping and make me lag like theyt did in 2015 fortunately i have good pc now but lately starting to lag again when i have my usual 14 winapms opened and multiple google chromes ands streaming on twitch, sometimes on twitch+facebook saeme time, i usually go afk during combat in master elo just to mute aellies who ping coz its annoying af but im not gona bother muting people every single game. they need to know to not ping., pings must be used only for targeting which enemy we focus in a team fihgt 2v2 .. 5v5, not to be careful - if some1 pings then i cant see mini map coz of their spam and annoying me during fight i cant see where enemy goes - ive muted sounds since 2011 due to annoying rumble laughs or vladimir being legendary 24/7 laly has been slain, but even sho the visuals are super annoying too and its laggy.. liiiiike.. meh i gotta send agent smith to dislike ur comment too but fortunately ure cov ered by newton's law of lowest gravity meaning waste of time to dislike..but yeah got my poiont across. mm lemme send hhim a screenshot of this comment b4 i post it on discord
@stanimirborov3765 Unistall you're too sensitive. You can turn your teamates pings off btw.
@@paulklein8556 satire imo
Idk if that's anything to go by... I almost never ping and never used a script
CAUGHT my bad CAUGHT
I'm a scripter and this is 100% scripting.
1. Orbwalking - its like you spamming right click where your mouse is but in her case she just holding spacebar (for the script to automatically use combo while orbwalking when it detect enemy in her range) or holding C (when there are creeps in the range and it will automatically last hit while orbwalking. While farming with holding C also have features like harass function that you can enabe so if the character have harass ability while looking for last hit on creep, it will also look for a chance to harass enemy with Q or something make it even harder for enemy to farm)
2. Auto dodge - the script will force the user to auto dodge even if you click to somewhere else. For example if the script auto dodge to left and user click right, the character will still forced to move to the left and the user input is not registered. Auto dodge is easily noticeable due to how "forced" a user movement looks like especially if you have use the script before. It also have features like automatically dodges with flash when enemy is flashing at you or when it detect a dangerous skillshot that can bind/stun you. You can also choose which skillshot to dodge with flash and which to dodge manually with just orbwalking.
3. Auto trap - This option can be enable in the script and it will automatically place traps when you hold spacebar (the full combo button). The full combo is a mix of orbwalk (spamming right click where your mouse is) + auto attack (on enemy only based on settings to target low hp enemy or closest enemy) + (other features like auto trap when the script detect enemy and calculate chances of the enemy being trapped if a trap is place) + combo (whatever combo Caitlynn user usually use to kill an enemy including the ultimate (which can be set if you want spacebar - full combo to automatically use ultimate or not)
I'm sure theres many more features nowadays. But the routine as a scripter player is
- Hold C when farming creeps (using the harass feature)
- If enemy is in range, hold spacebar to win
That pretty much it. Spacebar and C is usually the bread and butter as a scripter. That's why you can really tell when someone is scripting when they are switching from Spacebar to C (from orbwalking to full combo on enemy to orbwalking to last hitting creep) and the very obvious autododge.
The biggest red flag to me is the standstill dodges,and how overconfident he is at Qtpie clip,legit misspositioning but has an insane e after he auto the ww
After seeing 3:33 & 8:20 it was clear that she was scripting. I personally like to call it "wobbling" as it's always a dead giveaway that someone is script dodging. The only way to move like so is by either overriding a script input, or by using a macro (which is still cheating). For a human to be able to move like so it requires you to do 3+ inputs on top of 2 repositions all within a fraction of a second. Which, again, isn't possible without macros and/or the use of a controller that's been rigged to let you play League without the massive input loss caused by being restricted to using a mouse.
Exactly. To do it with your hands would require clicking to have your character move in several different directions in an instant, which to be able to do while aiming spells is basically impossible without scripts. You’re basically fighting the script trying to move you a certain direction
Nah, a click can do that because a click will path you towards the champs
For me the trap on Pyke flash was very notorious. Too much coincidence.
Idk if you know what words mean
@@AyeeSkippy mean you Idk if words know what
Bro don’t use words you don’t know.
For me the trap on Pyke flash was very harmonious. Too much cacophony.
For me the trap on Pyke flash was very loquacious. Too much pedantic.
well...that trap into the flash, he did the exast same thing to heimer when they first invaded top
When Pyke flashed and cait immediately dropped a trap ON HIS NEW LOCATION... that's 1000% a script
8:34 cait dodged draven e 3 times before this point, still doesnt find it sus? xD
what are you smoking? that was the first E cait doged.
I'm convinced vanguard doesn't do anything besides gather information on those actually scripting.
+9 ms ping difference ever since they added Vanguard to league, like what.
62 games in ranked using autododge and autocombo. Vanguard definetely works great! Imagine how long it would've taken if he only used legit hacks.
You know you can go .5x or .25x slower on spectator mode right?
the pyke flash trap was more than enough, inhuman micro adjustment. no possible way
Just look at the way she moves perfectly smooth following the mouse. Normal humans cannot click that fast
She spins in circles when dodging csing etc. its the best way to see someone is scripting, Because while shes still moving the mouse it's not her clicking.
I hate the fact that Vanguard is a chinese rootkit, but seeing it in action is an amazing sight. It not only detects blatant cheaters, but also those like this Cait who don't seem as powerful as the regular scripter we're used to because the scripts can be configured to make it barely suspicious to real players. And the best part is that it improves itself (evolves) with the data collected. I've seen it evolving in Valorant, and lately the rare occasions where it pops up nobody in the game was even aware that there was a cheater.
Or it just does falsbanns
@@BabyKnxckzfrom my understanding it has access to everything on your computer files etc. and only bans you if it finds something that is actually impacting the game so how is it supposed to false ban?
@BabyKnxckz percentage of this error is very low btw. It takes in a lot of data from your pc and game your gameplay. So I wouldn't say it false bans people often.
@@paulklein8556 seems like the lol version is better in that regard, i remember when valorant came out it would fals bann lots of ppl just for habing applications open that didnt do anything with the game
the movement on pyke q is not that sus honestly, the traps and insta cait e after aa input are
he only dodged by standing still and perfect 90 angle, pretty sus
That this guy was able to play 62 games without getting banned is kinda sad ...
I mean its better then before as they survived till challenger or so and like 200 games but still ... To much games being unrecognized by the system
At least its working and faster as the old system ^^ but i guess there is much more room to improve it
that was what worried me... he still got in master/gm lobby... like what is the point of vanguard
He got manually banned, what are you on about, only because streamers exposed him
@@xe3704 haha no vanguard on mac osx, scripters are chilling bgx mac os hahahaha ezpz boost acc to master then sell xd
62 games is still minimum 30 in game hours. Which is a long time to get away with hacking, it's funny because it seems that other anticheats detect it faster (on other games) vanguard is not on my main PC I don't trust it at all. I know most anticheats are kernel level, but most anticheats aren't related to the Chinese government, so yea no vanguard on my main PC
@@KOSPhemBoy buddy which anticheats are better than vanguard?? start naming them or learn to stfu.
i feel like the flash hook was possible to predict with the trap bc he wasnt able to land long range hooks he has to close distance where it makes sense to flash forward and not to the side
the only hook he got hit by pyke was becuase cait was in animation of placing a trap
if u ever play agaisnt scripters, summoners spells are their weacknes, ur flash is ur win condition
When someone moves in a 90 degree angle from how they were moving when a skill shot is thrown, it's a really big tell that they are scripting.
We don’t do mistakes, we just have happy accidents
The draven axe dodge was good but the pyke flash trap and warwick dodge are the only things that I think are truly sus.
This sorta thing just seems hard to tell. I’m a bit biased because WoW players do these sort of super late reactions effortlessly. Vanish coil, blind, etc.
I don't know he was hit on some easily predictable shots and also was hit by the very dodgable Draven ult at 7:22. I don't think it's super obvious if he is
Trap placement is a part of this script, but it's outdated (it didn't try to put traps on Draven's axes landing points).
yeah. seems like the script isn't very obv, except when it comes to trap placement. the trap into flash, and also trapping on top of invis pyke like 7:03. The dodges were a lil fishy, but nothing too blatant imo.
his skillshots are either perfect or horrid
on the wave it's always perfectly parallel (not the biggest tell) and on players it's either dead on center pixel or movement prediction
9:31 that looked pretty blatant to me. He only dodges like that when the Draven actually throws his cc, they aren't trying to predict it
idk... 7:03 isnt that bad imo, you already know he's in a bush, so you might as well trap between you and him. But that draven 9:31 is hella sus.
@@cap-ml7kybut its like nothing impossible... most players would do such a dodge while playing a league game
You can smooth dodging and configure it extensively with delays and pathing, good scripters don’t use evade. She is using orbwalker though 100% so you don’t need to investigate her dodging.
Looked this person up on opGG and the ranked winrate on Lucian (15 games) was 93%... and 76% winrate on Riven (17 games) so that's kinda sus too. First time I've felt good about the Vanguard rollout. I legit quit League when it was announced, after playing since 2011.
she is shooting through the smallest gaps in a group of minions without missing at all when she doesnt want to farm., prime example after she lives with a draven and pyke right on top of her pops potion healing enough to surive and move quick enough with standard boots only to get out of range from further damage THEN LITERALLY bang on 6m 30s watch her fire this shot right through the minions just as pyke comes out of beiing invis and is barely close enough to be visible to caiylyn imo.. so far thats the clincher for me, sorry if this already spotted now as watching 12 days after you posted this
Bro was playing with Wild Rift's trap auto aim 😂
CAUGHT
Average adc main blaming Support
3:33 is pretty significant because it shows the program knows it's more efficient dodging perfectly perpendicular as opposed to a little off. It's a weird correction to naturally have made so perfectly.
1:33 there was another flash trap predict
Thank god upgrading to win 10 solved all your issues.
12:57
hear me out. the way cait walks forward and back looks like a moment of indecisiveness on whether to walk towards yumi or not. So what if she pressed E not to doge ww ult but to get to yumi after a delayed decision?
Yes I'm aware that yumi got in range to latch onto her just before then, but this cait gives me vibes of being accidentally good by being slow.
I've done some plays like this myself accidentally because I have extremely terrible reaction times. I play better when I DON'T try to dodge things lol.
I love how everyone is in agreement that this Cait is a scripter but it could be Faker playing in NA 🤷
Well the whole point of scripts is that they're inhumanly quick. That's how they get detected. Everyone does things that look like scripts here and there, but 5+ times in a single game is just impossible.
@Squidmoto3 fair enough, but I'm just making a bad joke tbh, but with how every good player have great MS and FPS on their computers + possibly playing so much league that it comes second nature to predict perfectly when to dodge/ move quickly. Idk tbh, I ain't trying to defend this Cait as Sneaky says in the video too that this Pyke is probably bad at Q hooking so, but is kinda of stupid if Vanguard terminates games and bans players for being that good that it is suspicious, is quite ridiculous.
@@CoolzTR Trust me, whether she got hit by the Pyke Q's or not she would have gotten banned. Vanguard is checking for impossible clicks and inputs that literally can't be done without scripting or macros. It's got nothing to do with what's actually happening in the game. They have 100's of millions of matches to reference for data so to them finding a scripter is basically just finding the strong outliers
@Squidmoto3 yeah, fair enough. To me though I'm in low elo so I haven't seen it first hand and watching pro play as well as a few challenger YT/ Twitch players. This Cait's movements is what I expect in mid-high elo but one thing I agree with is though, this Cait should not be dodging almost every skillshot so. If this is what Vanguard should do then I have no complaints I guess. Nor should I even care about it 😅 since I'm trash so
if a fresh 30 gets banned for botting (as in botting from level 1-30) it will terminate the match and has the same punishment as scripting
I'm really good at side stepping but it's about reaction time so it was weird she seems unbothered at all with the dodges and nice spot on her auto attack on warwick before that perfect E because if she auto attack that dodge wouldn't look so clean no matter what except for scripting like having a second mouse in game 😂
Pretty sure vanguard can see your clicks. I got accused in this game. Went to watch the replay and it was sus a few times I dodged things with no vision. It’s gotta see your mouse movements.
If my Pyke couldn't land a single hook without flashing in I'll assume enemy ad is scripting like wtf and the trap placemment instead of e-ing is mega sus
Sure theres different settings on scripts but many scripters can be called just by looking at what frames they dodge / dont dodge. Mostly they start dodging at same frames. Also non scripters wouldnt just ignore every closely missed skill shots they would still actually try to dodge. Also movement during scripting is a tell also. Also some scripters react your cd's coming up which can also be seen in a slow mo in replay theres many way to check multiple things and make conclusion.
Also in games with 9-10 low level accounts with majority 60%+ wr's theres been way less sus players after vanguard came up.
That guy is so good at scripting its kinda easy to miss
Well, I also had few games I dodged literaly everything and my dodging style is bit weird
I'm a software developer and a league player, and I don't think he's using a script at all. I believe he's baiting skillshots on purpose and/or timing them.
I can provide evidence of this dodging technique because I use it a lot myself. He might have been manually banned by a human mistaking it for scripting because his timing is perfect. This isn't unusual when using this dodging technique.
Here are some examples of dodging using timing, baits, and fake dodges:
1. **Dodging Soraka's E**:
m.czcams.com/video/Hif_PLG0-V4/video.html
Soraka's E is an ability that can't be dodged by scripts or humans because it has no cast time or animation; the silence area drops instantly. I managed to 'dodge' it by using my E before she pressed her E. This is pure prediction and instinct.
2. **Dodging Mundo's Q**:
m.czcams.com/video/Hif_PLG0-V4/video.html
I dodge by reacting/timing and predicting where the Q will never go. I move in a direction he doesn't expect, or along the line he expects, which is why I don't tumble to my right or left.
3. **Baiting Yasuo's Q**:
m.czcams.com/video/Hif_PLG0-V4/video.html
Here, I bait Yasuo's Q by using my own Q to kill Varus. I didn't need to use Q; I could have just used auto-attacks. Instead, I tumbled on purpose to appear exposed, baiting Yasuo to throw his Q at me, allowing me to E flash it and go for Mundo.
Obviously, I don't have Faker-level reaction time with 80 ping on a smartphone. I'm baiting Yasuo's Q to E flash Aatrox and dodge it. It's a combination of baiting and timing (prediction). It's like W'ing into an Alistar as Tristana. He'll insta-Q you, so you can do it on purpose in a close fight to "remove" Alistar's Q from the cooldowns you have to worry about. Caitlyn might have done this to bait Warwick's ulti by stopping to "fake auto" him. There's no point in stopping to auto a Warwick; you'd try to escape. By stopping, I'm pretty sure she baited Warwick's ulti, using average human reaction timing to dodge it.
4. **Baiting Aatrox**:
m.czcams.com/video/Hif_PLG0-V4/video.html
I bait Aatrox by walking into his W, making Yasuo press R on me and die. I knew they didn't have enough damage to kill me from full HP with that combo.
5. **Predicting Varus**:
m.czcams.com/video/Hif_PLG0-V4/video.html
6. **Predicting Sivir's movement**:
m.czcams.com/video/Hif_PLG0-V4/video.html
7. **Predicting Aatrox's second Q**:
m.czcams.com/video/Hif_PLG0-V4/video.html
8. **Predicting/baiting Phantom's W**:
m.czcams.com/video/Hif_PLG0-V4/video.html
You can tell it's a prediction/bait, not a reaction, because I used my ult before he was in range and walked directly into him. I also used knowledge of skill ranges and movement speed, knowing I could even auto him once before he was in W range. The flash on Gragas is another prediction. I can't react well on a smartphone. On a PC, I can react to skills by watching the animation, but with 100 ping on a smartphone, it's impossible.
TL;DR: I think this Caitlyn may have been manually banned for scripting when he's not. The only suspicious thing I saw was the W on Pyke's flash, but that could be a coincidence. Caitlyn might have wanted to trap there to create space between her and Pyke, and at the same time, Pyke wanted to flash on her. This happens a lot. Human thinking and timing are similar for everyone. In-game body language can bait reactions. It's like when you run and a dog starts chasing you; if you turn back, the dog runs away scared. You can bait a dog to chase you by running away on purpose. You can do the same in League to bait skills and flashes.
It's obvious she's scripting, notice that the only time she's taking a skillshot is during or when she cast a skill at the same time the skillshot was thrown at her, she stops because of the animation 👌🏼
Scripters will often avoid the types of scripts that are easily detectable, so he's probably using things like a more zoomed out camera, less fog of war, attack range indicators, etc.
yep 6min 32s freeze or watch that in slow mo...
Is jungle map cooldown considered as scripting?
You literally get an in-game feature where if u ping a ward, you'll know where the ward was placed and where the war will expire.
Jungle map cooldown isn't breaking the game, nor it is unfair. If you have trouble keeping track of your jungle monster's respawn timer, then that's a you problem. Riot is cool with it because it gives people better accessibility. You only get the time also if you kill the jg monsters or you manually place the timer.
No, there are riot approved apps that provide you with that feature.
wish they had a more convincing enemy support. like in my humble plat opinion i would say scripts, like against a hook champ what i do mostly is just hug minions for safety but like she is standing out in the open and she pretty much only get hooked when she is actually doing w's due to the minor cast time. then again the pyke is NOT convincing at all and the lack of other skillshots makes it hard BUT the qt clip sealed it for me
In those cheats, you can turn on/off anytime you want. Probably she turns off when she's safe farming minions, and activate the emergency hotkey whenever she's in trouble.
Honestly, between the flash traps and all the dodges im surprised Sneaky was so on the fence about the suspect
For me it was 4:17 that made me positive he is scripting. Perhaps because it was in slo-mo.
He starts moving to cover behind minions (doding) literlaly the same moment the hook gets into vision. The same frame. Sure, to run behind Naut and/or minions is the most logical choice here. Sure, everyone knows the full trap animation never plays out and stuff. But the 0.00001 msec reaction time was just too perfect for my tastes.
Especially considering the fact most players on any elo beyond bronze would be standing behind the minions while placing the trap to begin with. But not Cait. As if he is too confident to care about hooks
So its not the action itself, but the manner in which it was performed
i kinda disagree the first cait game was 2 sus with the trap on pyke flash and the movement on draven e dodge made it clear it was scripting with the amount of pyke hooked dodged imo that wasn't hooman inputs you could see the clear difference in where cait did hooman inputs to dodge hook before it came out and the actual movement after was to inconsistent
Not enough. This is some regular cait gameplay.
these weeaboo costumes are getting out of hand
Only from the first minute of watching her movement I can already tell she so scripting, she is no only using info like people say in the comments.
Orbwalker is very obvious if you have used it before.
if cait was scripting
should yuumi be banned as well? since she's moving with cait LMAO
lol now I might be banned cause somebody could think that I am scripting because others play badly … the only sus thing I saw was her instant w on pykes flash … not sure if it help her at all
Kaizer morde such a Chad 🗿🗿🗿
Hopefully he got HWID banned.
only reasonable outcome
That doesnt really do much. PUBG would HWID ban cheaters when I used to play and they would just load up a virtual desktop or use some other hwid spoofer that you can buy. It would get rid of and deter a few, but most cheaters know ways around petty stuff like that
@@Black-nf3tx using a vm is a lot of work.
I don't know the breakdown of cheaters and their level of familiarity with computers. But I would assume a reasonable amount of at least 30% would give up facing hwid.
@@drjamaymay405 Vanguard also doesn't boot if ur using a VM so u can't launch the game in one.
@@drjamaymay405 There's easier methods other than VM's for the ones that are not technically inclined. If you look up "how to get around hwid" there's immediate answers and tons of forums of troubleshooting. It might help get rid of cheaters too stupid to google or poor ones, but they would be filtered eventually anyways due to moving on to cheating in something else or running out of money to waste on cheats every month.
5:50 he wasn't doing a dodge script coz pyke is just bad but this one is just... lool
Maybe he's just the next Gumayusi. 😂
i dont know man. Some impressive plays but it doesnt look too suspicious to me even that trap on pyke flash. I saw some high elo players doing that. But yeah if vanguard says so, maybe it's what is it.
I love the "maybe pyke was so bad that made look cait as if she was scripting". Yes obviously, Vanguard, the program made to be an average salty lol player that blames others of scripting instead of saying "im trash" 😂
If the program doesn't works on feelings. If it terminated the game it means that it literally found something.
wtf is with that haircut
femboy cut
5:53 blatant
I thought it was very clear already early sneaky completely missed the 1 inch dodge pyke q early game 2:46 he has no time to react yet does with micro precision, then again around 3:10 and then top it off with pyke landing qs on everyone else but never caitlyn through the whole game plus the flash trap and alot of other plays Id say 100% scripting
I've seen a scripter jayce once but dude lost to a garen since he has no skillshots😂😂😂
What's the fun of scripting if you are not the one writing the program yourself? I would understand if you were to try yourself as a hacker but to buy this crap?
5:54 why are u looking for more evidence xd arent u a former pro player? That trap play said it all
0:38 lmfao imagine playing easeiest champ in game riven n using cheats
cringe comment
@@Wat450 cring echamp, cringe comment deserved. also its cringe to use mainstream words such as cringe
How are there still scripters with vanguard? Care to explain?
Because Vanguard is just a bad joke... just a way for Rito to harvest your data for selling... but actual scripters don't care about it. Was bypassed it in the first 12 hours from going live
I bet Vanguard can't catch people and MOBA games are way to hard to read and detect people.
If I gonna make a nice guess no one reported the player at all which made the Vanguard investigation never get started.
i still remember that one zed who flashed first part of my sejuani W perfectly behind my back, surely not a scripter, any sane person perfectly flashes sejuani W first part xd
I mean ur champ is pretty predictable your gonna run em down and spam abilities so knowing that any half decent player would flash before you land said keyboard smash abilities. Completly normal flash that i do all the time against sej
@@DownForceSimRacing the problem is that there was literally 0 reason to flash this first part of W + it was far too perfect :|
@@Ryan38475 its just a prediction flash man idk what to tell you. I literally did the same thing to a sej not 10 games ago.
script are like cs cheats they have obv dodging and aiming and soft dodging and aim
tf is that haircut
ikr
Its 100% script easy to tell. Plays super agro vs pyke+draven, dodges absoute all Pyke Draven and Skarner skillshots. The ONLY hook Pyke hit was when Cait dropped a trap at the same time so was impossible to dodge. Sneaky n ppl ego try to deny it unless super obv but i played Dota 1 and s1 League and paterns of scripters / cheaters never change.
Sneaky washed.
Lol
Wasn't this shit Vanguard supposed to be perfect? Now Im sure whats the reason they introduced it
I feel like its obvious literally because of what imaqtpie said.
Cait is just bad, like the traps make perfect sense on why they wouldn't be sus. Takes 1.5 seconds to trap and dude is just going for a constant trap predict on a Pyke flash n shit.
Also even look at how he Qs the minion wave when he goes mid. He perfectly aims at like 2 melee minions horizontal when it literally doesn't make sense why he's so bad he can't position his character to hit more than 2 minions.
I just feel like Caitlyn isn't going to make it obvious if they are scripting besides how obviously bad the plays are. I know that seems contradictory because scripting would imply he's 'good' mechanically
But Caitlyn is literally their only negative wr. Which makes sense because her traps and Q are heavily delayed. So it requires more prediction than reaction. And using Cait traps like that just doesn't make sense. Why would a Caitlyn try so hard to trap someone who's in a bush, mobile, and not cced or put into a predictable trail to force them to walk in it or die. Like 3 traps dead on the target in lane instead of saving one for naut cc. I just feel like its a dead giveaway because who tf in that elo would play like that
assuming it's in reference to the Q dodges, a very experienced player will mind game the Pyke in similar fashion by predictability "where it is most common" to throw the hook.
I agree the flash predict trap was odd and very instantanious.
whilst I am no pro, nor a high ranked player in any means.. I can only read this as a "possibly using assisted tools" in regards to the dodges.
but a very good player smurfing, would be able to handle the game in a similar fashion. predict decision making etc.
people still cheating with vanguard
is as huge loss for crappy riot
It's really not though. If they reduced the amount of cheaters noticably, it's a W. Feels weird defending Riot, but you wouldn't believe how much time and effort skilled dudes put into hacking these games, for fun or money. It's not easy to prevent it technically. Could they do a better job, especially banning high elo scripters by hand? Absolutely. But saying Vanguard is a failure merely because you see *A* scripter without knowing numbers is kinda disingenuous.
@@aufkeinsten7883vanguard makes my rocket league lag, and for that reason I can't hit grand champion 2, it's been a big problem and I had to delete league of legends because rocket league is unplayable with that lag
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what are you talking about
you're watching a video that literally shows that vanguard is working as intended and catching cheaters
how is that a loss for riot?
This is amazing. First time I actually see the Riot Anti-cheat work. I don't need the company getting root access to my PC tho
that lvl 35 account has been bought, that account was been using but to lvl up to 30 and climb to emerald, thats why its been banned
8:36 that dodge is near impossible
good joke
"hmmm Draven hasn't used Stand Aside, I think I'll bait it out"
Def looks like pyke sucks
I don't feel bad, Draven Pyke is a cheese lane and it's super annoying to play against.
It would be hilarious if Cait in fact wasn't the scripter and Sneaky reviewed her for nothing.
Seems like a good player really, many of the movements seem human.
People are realizing Vanguard does not do a whole lot. Took them years to finally detect Arduinos when people moved on to better methods a long time ago
Bro sneaky cut yo hair
Makes his head look extra long
@@DonWiick nah he use to have a bowl cut and it looks normal no?