Why knights fought snails in medieval art

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  • Look in the margins of medieval books and you'll find an unusual theme: knights vs. snails. Follow Phil Edwards and Vox Almanac on Facebook for more: / philedwardsinc1
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    Medieval snails and knights - who knew? It turns out that medieval illuminated manuscripts featured a lot of bizarre imagery in the margins, but this pocket of art history might be one of the most intriguing.
    Scholar Lilian Randall provides the best theory for the unusual motif: these medieval knights fought snails in the margins because snails represented the Lombards, who had become widely despised lenders throughout Europe. Snail was an insult and, over time, it became a type of meme detached from its original meaning.
    Of course, like much of art history, this theory is just a theory. But it gives us an insight into the rich culture of marginal art and all the complexity, confusion, and amusement that sits on the side of the page.
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  • @sammylong3704
    @sammylong3704 Před 4 lety +3917

    The answer is simple, in medieval times giant snails were a real menace but thankfully the brave Knights of Europe wiped them all out for us.

    • @wackwacker8623
      @wackwacker8623 Před 4 lety +188

      Just like how lamps have shrunk Moths, Newton invented gravity to shrink the snails.
      The government wants us to believe no beasts can touch us, but I fear the day the moths and snails go back to their original size.

    • @tavishfinnegandegroot3513
      @tavishfinnegandegroot3513 Před 4 lety +36

      ur one of the time travelling knights!!
      even tho theres no such thing as timemachine in the middld ages

    • @CaptainSeaDog_
      @CaptainSeaDog_ Před 3 lety +18

      This is my head canon now

    • @rahmat4848
      @rahmat4848 Před 3 lety +12

      @@wackwacker8623 lol 🤣 good thing Newton invented gravity huh?

    • @ra_alf9467
      @ra_alf9467 Před 2 lety +4

      Knight Jiub

  • @jordanguy4241
    @jordanguy4241 Před 6 lety +3959

    This is not a question I've ever asked, nor was I ever going to ask. yet here I am for an answer

    • @ReddishNeck
      @ReddishNeck Před 6 lety +62

      Jordan Guy This is how we all feel, I think. Weird. But it's such an intriguing video title, we all just clicked on it.

    • @SaladinGucman
      @SaladinGucman Před 6 lety +4

      😂

    • @pufwuf
      @pufwuf Před 5 lety +6

      The answer lies in the stars. Specifically; a snail can be seen in Cassiopeia, where also can be seen the shining 'countenance divine' of William Blake's 'Jerusalem'. This countenance is that of the biblical god (c.f. 'snails! - short for 'god's nails' - being an interjection of surprise and es-car-got translating loosely as 'you're for god') and it is this the knights are confronting, with good cause. There is some myth about the snail returning to Jerusalem (can't locate it at the moment) and I think it safe to say that it is well on it's way. Happy days ahead!

    • @dionjaywoollaston1349
      @dionjaywoollaston1349 Před 5 lety +1

      Nick Addey I always thought that the snails represent the French, given how the french like to eat snails and it would have been a bit ridiculous to paint a giant clove of garlic, I feel a bit sorry for the knights who had to fight giant snails”my liege why doth That fellow from palastine George get to fighteth a dragon while I must slay a giant snail”speaking in RPG terms would a giant snail be more or less dangerous than a slime?

    • @Bee_v0mit
      @Bee_v0mit Před 5 lety +1

      O wow I saw you on a Jack stauber video and I see you in this comment section as well. Nice profile pic btw

  • @r8them84
    @r8them84 Před 5 lety +3479

    everybody gangsta till the giant snail start fightin

    • @Ginerization
      @Ginerization Před 5 lety +31

      Then nobody helps with the dishes after...

    • @mickymouse2445
      @mickymouse2445 Před 4 lety +11

      That giant snail that fights everybody really, really hard but also really, really slow

    • @rahmat4848
      @rahmat4848 Před 3 lety +3

      Just throw salt.. problem solved 😌

    • @healthandsurvival4461
      @healthandsurvival4461 Před 10 dny

      You laugh but just wait....the great prophecy shall come true

  • @Andy-gq5hb
    @Andy-gq5hb Před 5 lety +5632

    The correct title would have been, "Rare medeival memes"

  • @FrizzleLamb
    @FrizzleLamb Před 4 lety +1969

    This is the medieval times' equivalent to today's "this meme will be hard to explain in 100 years"

    • @johnnoahdeandres9458
      @johnnoahdeandres9458 Před 3 lety +23

      True

    • @Mary_OTT
      @Mary_OTT Před 3 lety +16

      I don no If anyone cares but I made the likes 420

    • @ginterka381996
      @ginterka381996 Před 2 lety +2

      Hahaha, true. XD

    • @rage_2000
      @rage_2000 Před 2 lety +11

      “Here you can see an image of a common guy with a green shirt immersed in some sort of blue flame….”

    • @johnlee7164
      @johnlee7164 Před 2 lety +2

      Try explaining 4 year old memes.

  • @beelzeboo
    @beelzeboo Před 5 lety +3688

    Its quite obvious that they were fighting giant snails hundreds of years ago

    • @GrassPossum
      @GrassPossum Před 5 lety +171

      Or that people were much smaller then.

    • @anaccountmusthaveaname9110
      @anaccountmusthaveaname9110 Před 5 lety +225

      @@GrassPossum They wouldn't have written normal sized books then. I think we should leave behind these childish conspiracies about tiny knights and stick to the hard science of gigantic snails.

    • @kseventytwo
      @kseventytwo Před 5 lety +28

      anAccountMustHaveAName its not exactly ‘hard’ science, unless we talk about the shells

    • @anaccountmusthaveaname9110
      @anaccountmusthaveaname9110 Před 5 lety +68

      @B. J. If giant snails aren't real, then explain how you were so slow to get a joke.

    • @nikolasmichael6377
      @nikolasmichael6377 Před 5 lety +13

      That’s what the History Channel would interpret from this

  • @m1l22
    @m1l22 Před 4 lety +2327

    *_So basically this is the birth of shitposting?_*

    • @philiproe1661
      @philiproe1661 Před 4 lety +142

      Nah shitposting dates back to Egypt.

    • @philiproe1661
      @philiproe1661 Před 4 lety +98

      @Aleksa Petrovic
      Really shitposting is as old as drawing and writing themselves.

    • @Anti-HyperLink
      @Anti-HyperLink Před 4 lety +6

      Can you speak like a person?

    • @guyfacks1320
      @guyfacks1320 Před 4 lety +21

      @Aleksa Petrovic the egyptians are as old to the romans as the romans are to us

    • @lashlarue7924
      @lashlarue7924 Před 4 lety +9

      @@guyfacks1320 That is freaking mindblowing, but yeah. Actually I think the Egyptians would have been even more slightly older to the Romans than the Romans are to us (today)...

  • @TheSwordbird98sPage
    @TheSwordbird98sPage Před 5 lety +2272

    i have a feeling it was probably over something dumb. like a well-known person freaked out over a snail once and they started mocking them through drawings of snails vs knights

    • @foxify_
      @foxify_ Před 5 lety +62

      Kind of like sarcasm?

    • @phanvan4076
      @phanvan4076 Před 4 lety +29

      But nope it was racial slur

    • @natebush8217
      @natebush8217 Před 4 lety +19

      Hmm..."Knights vs. Snails"...yeah, that sounds like the next big Dream Works hit! :D

    • @venture3800
      @venture3800 Před 4 lety +39

      and thus dank medieval memes were born

    • @bashkillszombies
      @bashkillszombies Před 4 lety +14

      Doubtful, it was some group so powerful that you couldn't ridicule them. To see who rules over you look to he who you cannot ridicule. Or count the cookies one can bake per year.

  • @schmurble2254
    @schmurble2254 Před 7 lety +1653

    RIP dude at the end. Horrifically murdered by a mutant snail from the 1300s. Gone too soon.

  • @lukmigindnuforhelved
    @lukmigindnuforhelved Před 5 lety +3551

    Knights were the athletes superstars of the time. Monks were the academics.
    Maybe the nerds were mocking the jocks?

    • @bluemantis1448
      @bluemantis1448 Před 5 lety +203

      A time when nerds bullied jocks?

    • @lukmigindnuforhelved
      @lukmigindnuforhelved Před 5 lety +231

      @@bluemantis1448 In their little margin world, yes :)

    • @maosama3695
      @maosama3695 Před 5 lety +40

      Nah it's probably the king hired those knights to kill any snails they could find for if anyone touches the king he'll die.

    • @deusexrockina
      @deusexrockina Před 4 lety +4

      Haha! Nice

    • @venture3800
      @venture3800 Před 4 lety +6

      @@bluemantis1448 not so much bullying as satire? 😂

  • @seepdrer3990
    @seepdrer3990 Před 4 lety +575

    When you are lvl 1 player, so you have to fight some snails to get some xp.

  • @itsjustlukeRevive
    @itsjustlukeRevive Před 4 lety +877

    Snail: *slimes* on Knight's foot
    Knight: DEMON!!! 🗡️

  • @Laerei
    @Laerei Před 7 lety +2117

    600 years from now: why astronauts fought rainbow farting toast cats in digital era internet art.

    • @mk_rexx
      @mk_rexx Před 6 lety +94

      We'll never know...

    • @smaugtheimpenetrable8009
      @smaugtheimpenetrable8009 Před 6 lety +43

      The mystery will be unveiled , but until then...

    • @anonymous.t6649
      @anonymous.t6649 Před 6 lety +1

      Laerei ajakjsjjsjjehfbiejddjiosjenosodnowienodjdjowkemksidniwisn*djdj*eein(ejiiejdiiskwi*×××

    • @milascave2
      @milascave2 Před 6 lety +5

      Is that actually a thing?

    • @MrGamelover23
      @MrGamelover23 Před 6 lety +12

      Opinunate ted Well Nyan Cat is the thing he described being fought.

  • @dutchministryofdefence604
    @dutchministryofdefence604 Před 6 lety +1076

    its a older meme sir but it checks out

  • @CraftxTD
    @CraftxTD Před 4 lety +443

    This technically is a meme since a meme is an “element of a culture or system of behavior that may be considered to be passed from one individual to another by nongenetic means, especially imitation.”

  • @aabcc
    @aabcc Před 5 lety +701

    "Yo dude look at this snail i just drew"
    "Hey thats a good one!! Imma draw one too."
    Medieval meme stealing

    • @cerridianempire1653
      @cerridianempire1653 Před 3 lety +11

      yup it's terriffying to think that our humor will just go full circle and revert back to banana slipping gags

  • @3hallaman
    @3hallaman Před 6 lety +1541

    Man, this guy just ignoring the invasion of the giant alien snails.

    • @merrittanimation7721
      @merrittanimation7721 Před 6 lety +76

      gingersassy I know right? Those men died valiantly.

    • @tarasarma2888
      @tarasarma2888 Před 6 lety +56

      It's shameful. My friend's ancestors died in that war.

    • @codyg6514
      @codyg6514 Před 6 lety +72

      You mean the Snailens right?

    • @codyg6514
      @codyg6514 Před 6 lety +11

      Damnit, someone in the comments above already used my joke..

    • @AT-gk1tw
      @AT-gk1tw Před 6 lety +3

      Cody Green is a genius.

  • @hobbesfield1082
    @hobbesfield1082 Před 7 lety +830

    I just kind of learned that medieval monks made memes.
    I can die happily.

    • @ghiribizzi
      @ghiribizzi Před 7 lety +7

      Hobbesfield well that escalated quickly , well for medieval time standards

    • @92alexmaster
      @92alexmaster Před 7 lety +11

      There are even older memes. The Three Hares meme is about 1500 years old from China, The Abracadabra is from the Roman Empire and The Sator square dates to the roman republic.

    • @AxelLeJeff
      @AxelLeJeff Před 7 lety +4

      And Kilroy has existed since the dawn of man.

    • @facelessman9224
      @facelessman9224 Před 7 lety +4

      History's first trolls!

    • @crazyeyes8962
      @crazyeyes8962 Před 7 lety +12

      It's really not hard to imagine when you realize that a bunch of dudes who all lived in monasteries totally remote from the rest of the population were in control of almost all written information

  • @kitsandcards7968
    @kitsandcards7968 Před 5 lety +426

    Back then they go braggin about "I fought snails more fearsome than you!"

    • @Corvus__
      @Corvus__ Před 5 lety +12

      Just like how an f-1 racer today could say "I've seen snails faster than you!"

    • @lemiov6885
      @lemiov6885 Před 5 lety +16

      In the next few decades, it would be mud crabs.

    • @Corvus__
      @Corvus__ Před 5 lety

      @@lemiov6885 Why mud crabs?

    • @kitsandcards7968
      @kitsandcards7968 Před 5 lety +4

      @@Corvus__ it's an elder scrolls game reference hehe

    • @Corvus__
      @Corvus__ Před 5 lety

      @@kitsandcards7968 So mud crabs, aren't a real thing?

  • @willhoffman6629
    @willhoffman6629 Před 2 lety +86

    False. The Knights were granted immortality but in exchanged a snail hunted them down, if caught the Knights would perish. The photos depict said events.

    • @TurquoiseIcy
      @TurquoiseIcy Před 2 lety +10

      We have come full circle haven't we?

  • @chistinelane
    @chistinelane Před 7 lety +446

    The reason we don't see them is because the knights won. The greatest heroes we never knew

    • @scienceme9794
      @scienceme9794 Před 7 lety +45

      Yeah, Don Quixote wiped the giant snails out before he took on the windmills.

    • @JotaDeeMeO
      @JotaDeeMeO Před 7 lety +1

      Otherwise we would have heroic stories about snails and dragons nows.... and let's not talk about snail movies..

    • @Wavemaninawe
      @Wavemaninawe Před 7 lety +59

      Surely you jest. Knights were wiped off the map centuries ago.
      My brother is still fighting snails in his garden to this day.

    • @alantomy1444
      @alantomy1444 Před 7 lety +2

      chistine lane history favors the victor

  • @johnpetrov6602
    @johnpetrov6602 Před 7 lety +576

    Yes it is most accurate to say the snails are a meme. In my law class we ran over an ancient Roman law that required individuals to flee from battle if an avenue of retreat was available, rather than to fight an aggressor. This law was meant to prevent personal skirmishes from resulting in pointless death. Two aggrieved parties would menace each other with weapons then slowly back away to avoid combat while keeping their honor. In the margins of the book containing this law, there is a knight defending himself from a snail. Obviously, the point is that he could easily run away from the snail. That's the punch line. Like any meme, every time it appears the joke is slightly different until the original meaning is obscured. The joke might have several origins; there's no telling where it came from.

    • @OktoPutsch
      @OktoPutsch Před 7 lety +34

      one of the most interesting comments here ,Sir, thank you.

    • @rib_rob_personal
      @rib_rob_personal Před 7 lety +8

      That's really freakin' cool.

    • @ixian_technocrat
      @ixian_technocrat Před 7 lety +4

      Do you happen to remember the title of the manuscript with the aforementioned law and the drawing?

    • @johnpetrov6602
      @johnpetrov6602 Před 7 lety +8

      Ixian Technocrat Ah well it would probably have been out of the Code of Justinian. That's all I remember.

    • @barbequesauce7167
      @barbequesauce7167 Před 6 lety +5

      If you removed the old law then you'd have to find every reference to it and change it appropriately, then check the references to _those_ laws to make sure they still made sense...
      New laws sort of overwrite old ones. There's that one about it being legal to shoot a Welshman with a longbow, but newer laws about bodily harm have priority.

  • @eldaroses.g.r.7945
    @eldaroses.g.r.7945 Před 2 lety +161

    So, it’s confirmed. Snail vs knight was a medieval meme. We’ve been memeing way longer than we get credit for.

    • @thecandlemaker1329
      @thecandlemaker1329 Před 8 dny +5

      Even longer than you think. Ancient romans shitposted on rocks and the walls of their public structures, leaving such important messages as "On April, 19th I baked a bread"

    • @TheCasualAbsurder
      @TheCasualAbsurder Před 6 dny

      Absolutely. Dawkins just rehashed some classical rhetorical analysis as an evolutionary advantage. Even “meme” is just a variation and abbreviation of “enthymeme.”

  • @darrenlynch2619
    @darrenlynch2619 Před 5 lety +237

    The snails were very clearly just a meme for the medival arts

  • @ChronicleLiving
    @ChronicleLiving Před 7 lety +1576

    Legends says that the French Knights are still fighting with snails in their fancy restaurants.

    • @olddoggeleventy2718
      @olddoggeleventy2718 Před 6 lety +52

      How dare you insult my French forefathers..."I fart in your general direction." ( Monty Python and The Holy Grail) couldn't resist the opportunity to use that line!

    • @sendai6694
      @sendai6694 Před 5 lety +6

      Also the snails are eaten in the region of catalonia in spain

    • @jayrussell1825
      @jayrussell1825 Před 5 lety +2

      Deww nut git funnee with ME, Meeseuer - - Sir Jacques Clouseau, Knights of the Ringside Tables

    • @kwest9747
      @kwest9747 Před 15 dny

      Snails are widely eaten across Europe and can be popular village food, e.g on the island of Lebos. In fact you’ll sometimes find snails in the frozen section of Lidl (not by accident) even in the UK.

  • @roxyshow123
    @roxyshow123 Před 6 lety +584

    The knights killed off the really big snails. So only the little itty bitty mollusks were left.

    • @aljoschalong625
      @aljoschalong625 Před 6 lety +32

      @brainchild. Nonono, the knights didn't kill off the big snails - the normal, everyday mollusks, decimated the small anti-mollusc knights to extenction. So we still have snails today, but no knights, especially tiny ones.

    • @pamungkastabah8163
      @pamungkastabah8163 Před 6 lety +1

      Breaking Darwin

  • @yeah8598
    @yeah8598 Před 2 lety +94

    Obviously people back then were just immortal,the snail is inevitable.

    • @tancredi7106
      @tancredi7106 Před 2 lety +4

      Finally someone said it 💀

    • @skellybird8697
      @skellybird8697 Před 2 lety +1

      Oh this is Christmas *WAAAR IS OVER IFF YOU WANT IT and what have we done

  • @justas423
    @justas423 Před 5 lety +210

    My theory is that it's a representation of them fighting boredom.

    • @bashkillszombies
      @bashkillszombies Před 4 lety +1

      You'd be wrong.

    • @reieben886
      @reieben886 Před 3 lety +19

      Yes, before printing press, medieval scriber are very boring and time consumming job, they lose time to socializing with other people.. the snails symbolizing slowness and boredom

    • @therealrenegade
      @therealrenegade Před rokem

      YES! Finally! I knew I wasn't the only one think that.

    • @andyramirez6016
      @andyramirez6016 Před 8 dny +1

      Or sloth…

  • @fionacowell3544
    @fionacowell3544 Před 7 lety +804

    So..
    Are you telling me..
    That snails are the memes of the 14th century???

    • @quandovoceleroscomentarios9622
      @quandovoceleroscomentarios9622 Před 7 lety +11

      They had memes. They had swords and pretty people. They were cool.

    • @armanderschreckliche
      @armanderschreckliche Před 7 lety +4

      Fiona Cowell Lmao 😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏👌👌👌👌👌

    • @henryt3802
      @henryt3802 Před 7 lety +18

      Fiona Cowell yup, they were people just like u and me, they also had their jokes, memes and running gags

    • @henryt3802
      @henryt3802 Před 7 lety +4

      The Banana Melon dude my name's henry you should expect me to talk like that.😂

    • @Katie-mw7pd
      @Katie-mw7pd Před 7 lety +1

      JIM

  • @SomeoneJustWatching
    @SomeoneJustWatching Před 7 lety +421

    England, making memes since 1200

    • @marmorealcandors
      @marmorealcandors Před 6 lety +2

      Donald J Trump isn’t New York your city?

    • @Jescide
      @Jescide Před 6 lety +4

      Leonard Marc Ramos
      America is his city

    • @martind349
      @martind349 Před 6 lety

      Jescide Life and all of these Londons' still

    • @xenotypos
      @xenotypos Před 6 lety +5

      The manuscripts (in this video) are written in old french.
      So I doubt any of those are from england.

    • @taptapuyo2714
      @taptapuyo2714 Před 5 lety

      Harry Sinclair before it was cool. 😎

  • @gunfiend5175
    @gunfiend5175 Před 2 lety +56

    The snail has finally caught up with them...it's their final day, and they are going down by their own terms!

  • @cluckcluck6494
    @cluckcluck6494 Před 5 lety +291

    Goku: I’ve got the strongest enemies
    Knights: Hold my beer

  • @mugensamurai
    @mugensamurai Před 6 lety +2297

    Maybe they really hated escargot.

    • @noneofyourbeeswax01
      @noneofyourbeeswax01 Před 6 lety +52

      I was expecting to find that the snail represented the French, a traditional foe of the English and notorious eaters of the cuisses de grenouilles, flesh of le cheval and more pertinently, as you have pointed out, the escargot in question... but apparently not.

    • @Changeling9au
      @Changeling9au Před 6 lety +4

      Don't trifle with truffles!
      :)

    • @Hal-kc5bk
      @Hal-kc5bk Před 6 lety +1

      and the french

    • @TheLiamis
      @TheLiamis Před 6 lety +1

      mugensamurai or the french

    • @mywallet7367
      @mywallet7367 Před 6 lety

      are you in the wrong timeline?

  • @onewhoisanonymous
    @onewhoisanonymous Před 7 lety +1146

    God. I can heard the future historians trying to describe 21st century memes to our distant future generations. "Here we see a photograph of a young person outlaid with a black border. Notice the ancient text encircling the photograph...its true meaning lost to time. Dr. ---- has been studying their cryptic texts for years and theorized...."

    • @BvousBrainSystems
      @BvousBrainSystems Před 7 lety +199

      My most profound hope is that I'm somehow transported to the future you're describing. I'm basically a meme scholar, I can explain them all about it and finally feel like I'm good at something.

    • @Diana-mu7pc
      @Diana-mu7pc Před 7 lety +121

      This sounds like a joke on Futurama

    • @NicolasOrlinski
      @NicolasOrlinski Před 7 lety +81

      All memes will disappear. The 21st Century will be known as the Dark Ages 2 without any written documents.
      Why? Because in 2017 I can't even use links to the digital articles from 1999, because whole newspapers and portals disappeared and when you google after them you may probably find some notes that they ever existed. The digital world is as stabile as the Facebook account with hundreds of pictures and wise words which get banned and goes to the digital nirvana during the one single minute.

    • @kipicbloud
      @kipicbloud Před 7 lety +64

      That thought has always been darkly amusing to me. We have "all" the information in the world at our fingertips, but when our civilization collapses and the next one rises, it is almost a given that there will be almost no written accounts of it given our reliance on electronics and transitional media that is wiped daily.
      Crazy, huh?

    • @edlingja1
      @edlingja1 Před 7 lety +27

      Brandon Bricker it's like this analogy:
      Building a tent with no beams, instead we all have to blow as hard as possible to collectively help keep the tent up. If we all stop blowing, it ceases to be a tent and is, instead, simply just a very large blanket. Our current society relies on us ALL partaking in the fields of economics, politics, religion, and all other factors prevalent in our society.

  • @jeremyuzca7697
    @jeremyuzca7697 Před 3 lety +54

    I imagine a video in 2420: Why 2020 memes used to have a frog named Pepe?

  • @Nytr8
    @Nytr8 Před 5 lety +120

    Title : why knights are fighting snails in images
    Video: we don’t know exactly why

  • @ironsoul941
    @ironsoul941 Před 7 lety +281

    Actually, in medieval times animals represented something. Snails possibly represented slothfulness, so fighting slothfulness and to keep copying might have been a theme many monks writings these books were familiar with.

    • @naverilllang
      @naverilllang Před 6 lety +12

      You know what represents slothfulness even more than snails?
      Sloths.
      Walked right into that one, didn't you?

    • @rin_etoware_2989
      @rin_etoware_2989 Před 6 lety +23

      Sloths lived in America.
      Walked right into that one, didn't you?

    • @thatonehamster4130
      @thatonehamster4130 Před 2 lety +13

      @@rin_etoware_2989 and America is a sea away from europe
      Swam right into that one, didn´t you?

    • @muhammaddaffaarvianda5050
      @muhammaddaffaarvianda5050 Před rokem +10

      @@thatonehamster4130 and swimming wasn't invented yet in medieveal Europe
      Boated, idk, right into that one, didn't you?

    • @raenaprottengeier
      @raenaprottengeier Před 5 měsíci +3

      they actually represented strength, because they carry their houses on their backs.

  • @jaschabull2365
    @jaschabull2365 Před 6 lety +491

    1:40: Praying is no use, knight. Snails never do anything quickly!

    • @teslagirl1
      @teslagirl1 Před 5 lety +1

      Shellikybookies. There's a wonderful Irish children's song about snails, and that's what they were called.

  • @user-ff9xb7ds9y
    @user-ff9xb7ds9y Před 5 lety +223

    There is an explenation:
    The knights were french

  • @LordBrittish
    @LordBrittish Před 5 lety +28

    Modern snails aren’t what their ancestors once were. Ancient snails used to tower over man, and we had to fight them off with fire and salt.

  • @caityreads8070
    @caityreads8070 Před 6 lety +327

    obviously it's because there used to be giant killer snails and the brave heroes killed them all which is why there isn't any anymore

  • @flensdude
    @flensdude Před 7 lety +151

    So it turns out the Monty Python joke about the killer rabbit (and other small animals) has been a long running joke in Europe.

    • @Abraxas948
      @Abraxas948 Před 7 lety +15

      gladomi Ah yes, I remember when King Arthur was arrested and put in a police van before he could fight the battle for the holy grail. Oh, and how could I have forgotten about the holy hand grenade? Those crazy scribes sure were inventive

    • @VinchVolt
      @VinchVolt Před 7 lety +15

      Gilliam took various liberties for the sake of comedy, but if you remove the jokes it ironically follows the original plot of the legends closer than most other adaptations.

    • @MrMlinmlin
      @MrMlinmlin Před 7 lety +7

      but if you remove the jokes theres barely anything left... a dude named Arthur riding around with a bunch od dudes... -_-

    • @gamingolympian4245
      @gamingolympian4245 Před 6 lety +1

      Which is exactly what it was... What did you think there was some like intense war or something? It's a Dude named Arthur who happens to be king of Wales/Britannia traveling through some shithole looking for the Holy Grail.

  • @Shaun-vy9vi
    @Shaun-vy9vi Před 4 lety +13

    Just clarifying something, they were called illluminated manuscripts because they often had gold leafing/inks that appeared to make the pages glow under candle light.

  • @weaklistworm
    @weaklistworm Před 2 lety +51

    He tried to fight the immortal snail, a brave soul

  • @thelardmaker6806
    @thelardmaker6806 Před 7 lety +190

    In short these are basically medieval memes.

    • @eeeeea
      @eeeeea Před 6 lety +4

      The Lard Maker now i'm actually thinking what people in 1000 years from now will think about today's memes

  • @crozraven
    @crozraven Před 7 lety +216

    or snails pictures were just medieval trolls

  • @BOAYang
    @BOAYang Před 5 lety +187

    Lion: I'm the king of the jungle
    snail: *I'm about to end this man's whole career.*

  • @leo.6541
    @leo.6541 Před 2 lety +23

    They fought the snails to protect themselves from the legion of the Immortal Snails; they succeeded, and got rid of all except one.

    • @leo.6541
      @leo.6541 Před 2 lety +4

      They used creative mode, by the way. Deleted all except the last.

  • @vixen768
    @vixen768 Před 7 lety +1332

    FINALLY! An answer I've been looking for!
    Thank you. So much.

    • @Sara3346
      @Sara3346 Před 7 lety +12

      Yes and I also wanted to know about the snails!

    • @mdarnell514
      @mdarnell514 Před 7 lety +13

      vixen768 no way, totally medieval world's misconception of ammonite fossils that could be quite large. You can see in the illustrations that sometimes they look more like modern day Nautilus's... or squid like in the opening... but... who can prove ammonites didn't walk on land? Maybe some were alive then still. >:)

    • @RIFLQ
      @RIFLQ Před 7 lety +19

      The day I think about why knights fought snails is the day when Vox upload this video

    • @JacobJonesy
      @JacobJonesy Před 7 lety +2

      Okay the problem is that this is just an opinion. Take your "answer" not as fact.

  • @coreyshipe
    @coreyshipe Před 6 lety +365

    TLDR: Snails represent the Lombards, who were thought to be slimy merchants who carried their homes on their backs. The snail is a jest insult to the name of the time. (1400 Memes)

  • @N1GHTSTRIKER-45
    @N1GHTSTRIKER-45 Před 2 lety +26

    Immortal snail meme predecessor

  • @NikkiKrissoff
    @NikkiKrissoff Před 4 lety +28

    It’s all fun and games till the giant snail comes squirming into the room

  • @aprilrhoden116
    @aprilrhoden116 Před 7 lety +389

    This was hilarious and informative. This has sparked an interest in me for medieval manuscripts that did not exist before. Thank you, Vox.

    • @Vox
      @Vox  Před 7 lety +53

      We linked the main paper/book in the description.
      If you want to just look at gorgeous medieval ms scans, this one is great:
      brbl-dl.library.yale.edu/vufind/Record/3433279
      You'll find a snail/knight battle on 169r.
      brbl-zoom.library.yale.edu/viewer/1020266
      -Phil

    • @aprilrhoden116
      @aprilrhoden116 Před 7 lety +8

      Thanks again!

    • @fdsdh1
      @fdsdh1 Před 7 lety +12

      It might be worth taking a look at the British Library too, they have a fairly substantial collection of digitised manuscripts
      www.bl.uk/manuscripts/

    • @aprilrhoden116
      @aprilrhoden116 Před 7 lety +1

      Okay, Thanks, I'll do that!

    • @JacobJonesy
      @JacobJonesy Před 7 lety

      Are you older than 13, April?

  • @DavidBlaze420
    @DavidBlaze420 Před 7 lety +62

    this means there were huge snails back then but the knights killed them all

  • @emmytweetie2177
    @emmytweetie2177 Před 5 lety +59

    Is it ok to draw in the margins of my school books now????

  • @DZ477
    @DZ477 Před 4 lety +64

    2019: Why knights fought snails in medieval art
    2119: Why players fought chickens in CSGO

  • @Peasant_of_Pontus
    @Peasant_of_Pontus Před 6 lety +74

    Snails=boredom. Reading=fighting boredom. Knights fighting snails=reading to pass time.

    • @kimurico1
      @kimurico1 Před 6 lety +3

      Nice. I would have thought rather snail = time, knight fighting against snail = scribe finishing a manuscript after a loooong time of hard work

  • @Ares-5933
    @Ares-5933 Před 7 lety +149

    And we thought we invented memes, turns out memes are hundreds of years old

    • @dutch1641
      @dutch1641 Před 7 lety +7

      Ares5933 during ww 2 memes were a thing too

    • @nos4me
      @nos4me Před 7 lety +5

      Ares5933 memes started existing when culture did

    • @krieginphernjacobson
      @krieginphernjacobson Před 7 lety +14

      memes were born far before humanity, they will also outlive us all.

    • @horatiotrismegistus616
      @horatiotrismegistus616 Před 7 lety +2

      Memes are a new invention, like water and dirt.

  • @cernunnos_lives
    @cernunnos_lives Před 5 lety +84

    So basically: how an ethnic slur became a meme for perhaps a few generations of scholarship.

  • @klyntarkenny8046
    @klyntarkenny8046 Před 4 lety +62

    Did medieval knights do battle with snails?
    Ancient Astronaut Theorists say “yes”

  • @cheesecakelasagna
    @cheesecakelasagna Před 7 lety +138

    Someone please make this ancient meme great again!

  • @tigerboy1966
    @tigerboy1966 Před 7 lety +18

    Here's a thought- the pictures were charms to protect the manuscripts from being eaten by snails.

  • @lorettap.925
    @lorettap.925 Před 4 lety +16

    I really like that first "snail" at 0:34. It's like a cat-snail. Cnail.

  • @BltchErica
    @BltchErica Před 5 lety +74

    I wonder if they actually had memes inb4 christ. Imagine some egyptian kids drawing mummies with shiny eyes doing t poses on scrolls without any explanation.

    • @Pugetwitch
      @Pugetwitch Před 4 lety +2

      It happened.

    • @chonacastillo4777
      @chonacastillo4777 Před 4 lety +1

      Nice profile pic.

    • @Pollicina_db
      @Pollicina_db Před 4 lety +14

      There is one. When archaeologist found a place in Egypt with lots of pillars they noticed that one of them had hiyeroglifs. So they climbed up that very tall pillar to see what it said. It said:"This is a veryyyy tall pillar".

    • @swiggitysk8
      @swiggitysk8 Před 3 lety +2

      of course they had memes. memes are a human thing. they were just called common jokes up until recently.

    • @copperlemon1
      @copperlemon1 Před 3 lety +2

      Romans had graffiti accusing each other of buggery and cuckholdry, by at least year 79, as demonstrated by inscription preserved at Pompeii.

  • @nonamedpleb
    @nonamedpleb Před 7 lety +339

    TLDR: IT'S A MEME

  • @Kinopio710
    @Kinopio710 Před 6 lety +484

    Medieval memes need to make a comeback 🤔

    • @SargentoBonzo
      @SargentoBonzo Před 6 lety +3

      I want Vox to make a video about: Why knights fought RABBITS in medieval art
      i.pinimg.com/originals/67/00/c4/6700c497d421ae1d0f032e740f7dfd00.jpg

    • @edwardliu111
      @edwardliu111 Před 6 lety +1

      They have
      www.reddit.com/r/trippinthroughtime/?st=JD6NYJK0&sh=d881a549

    • @Trashproductions2
      @Trashproductions2 Před 6 lety

      Oh I thought this was a meme.

    • @lohitjagarapu9351
      @lohitjagarapu9351 Před 6 lety

      +Matt B: What's going to do? Nibble your bum?

    • @jonathanruiz866
      @jonathanruiz866 Před 6 lety

      That's what I was thinking

  • @justcallmehaterik
    @justcallmehaterik Před 2 lety +9

    So this was the first time the snail was hired to catch some dude? O.o

  • @rickro2878
    @rickro2878 Před 5 lety +22

    "And so, good Knight, thou will have to fight thy Giant Snail for your promotion."

  • @yosefyonin6824
    @yosefyonin6824 Před 7 lety +67

    *VINTAGE MEMES! VINTAGE MEMES! GET YOUR PERFECTLY PRESERVED 700 YEARD OLD MEMES RIGHT HERE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!*

  • @werbearjack
    @werbearjack Před 7 lety +268

    So snails are medieval Pepes?

    • @iAmTheSquidThing
      @iAmTheSquidThing Před 7 lety +18

      Now would be a great time to invest in rare snails before the normies realise.

    • @happyswedme
      @happyswedme Před 7 lety +46

      Imagine future scientists being like "at the dawn of the third millennia people liked to draw frogs"

    • @rocketxiv4980
      @rocketxiv4980 Před 7 lety +33

      𝖄𝖊 𝖔𝖑𝖉𝖊 𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙𝖕𝖔𝖘𝖙𝖎𝖓𝖌

  • @100KillStreak
    @100KillStreak Před 5 lety +26

    Fromsoft missed the biggest opportunity to add a snail boss in Dark Souls.

    • @lancergt1000
      @lancergt1000 Před 4 lety

      the Phalanx in the Painted World of Ariamis are kinda snails

  • @checkmatefurries286
    @checkmatefurries286 Před 7 lety +84

    I think this is my new favorite Vox video. Meme in peace, scribes. Meme in peace.

  • @yseson_
    @yseson_ Před 6 lety +126

    Love the "pray that 🐌 kills you quickly" interesting fact an ex roommate and I would make our own paper and keep it in the basement guess what creature loves to eat fresh paper? 🐌
    So I imagine it was a precaution toward being diligent in the care of precious paper

  • @liviahorowitz2225
    @liviahorowitz2225 Před 2 lety +8

    Plot twist: the crusades were actually just wars about killing giant snails, which were considered a delicacy for the elite.

  • @sarahtoonswastaken9990
    @sarahtoonswastaken9990 Před 2 lety +14

    the immortal snail came for them

  • @TheReverendGreene
    @TheReverendGreene Před 6 lety +110

    What if snails represented procrastination? Imagine you live in a monastery. People judge you harshly all the time, you're pressured to produce, but you never really go anywhere and probably lack motivation all the time. "Sloth" or laziness is a sin. Maybe it was an inside joke about how hard it was to fight off their laziness and actually make the manuscript they were always talking about

    • @yooringonghan
      @yooringonghan Před 5 lety +4

      honestly that was my interpretation as well

    • @darkmasterchief227
      @darkmasterchief227 Před 5 lety +1

      Hmm yeah i gathered that too

    • @jelkel25
      @jelkel25 Před 5 lety +2

      One of the 7 deadly sins, along with the 7 virtues a big part of Western culture that conveniently disappeared.

  • @IamMeHere2See
    @IamMeHere2See Před 7 lety +70

    So it's basically the Wilhelm scream of Gothic literature. Cool.

  • @apexshinbi638
    @apexshinbi638 Před 4 lety +14

    2:52 *First Battle Royale Mode, colorized (1260)*

  • @spineck5499
    @spineck5499 Před 5 lety +19

    everybodys gangsta till the snails roll up in the castle

  • @booklover569
    @booklover569 Před 7 lety +63

    so...knights battling snails was an ancient meme?

  • @thinkgodd2501
    @thinkgodd2501 Před 7 lety +184

    Plottwist Giant Snails Exist!!!

  • @default2591
    @default2591 Před 2 lety +10

    So the immortal snail is real?

  • @edwinpaulhermo7650
    @edwinpaulhermo7650 Před 2 lety +6

    Someone agreed to be immortal, that's what.

  • @RideTheTrack
    @RideTheTrack Před 7 lety +196

    Last time I came this early, it was the dark ages

  • @allhailqueenhelga
    @allhailqueenhelga Před 6 lety +9

    One interesting theory I've heard about the rabbits and snails is that they're simply there because the people writing the manuscripts were monks and one of the main duties of monks was gardening. And who are two of
    a gardener's main enemies? Rabbits and snails.

  • @belkYT
    @belkYT Před 2 lety +10

    The immortal snail.

  • @bluemariomedia8351
    @bluemariomedia8351 Před 5 lety +47

    Jontron: im a brave boi
    *see a snail*
    Jontron: NOT A BRAVE ENOUGH BOI FOR THIS!

  • @warhammernerd52Daxx-Lorenzo898

    +Vox, why don't we see cars in medieval art?

    • @nemoflexual
      @nemoflexual Před 6 lety +33

      warhammernerd52 those things are way too hard to draw

  • @RandallStephens397
    @RandallStephens397 Před 7 lety +114

    the rare medieval pepe

  • @AtZero138
    @AtZero138 Před 5 lety +47

    Who Also.. just got a New Tattoo idea!!????

    • @wangxian_
      @wangxian_ Před 4 lety +3

      Did you actually do it??

  • @plotwist1066
    @plotwist1066 Před 3 lety +7

    i think they include it in their drawing because the snails are beautiful and easy to draw because it moves slooooooooooowlyyyyyyy. 🐌

  • @IsThisRain
    @IsThisRain Před 7 lety +29

    *Insert comment here stating that the snails were medieval dank memes because no-one has commented this before*

  • @NeptunesLagoon
    @NeptunesLagoon Před 6 lety +523

    1000 years from now they will believe that primordeal Hello Kittys went to war with Cosmic Space Kittens with bad grammer ( has Cheeseburger)... Lol

    • @SargentoBonzo
      @SargentoBonzo Před 6 lety +16

      𝕿𝖍𝖞 𝖒𝖊𝖒𝖊 𝖎𝖘 𝖉𝖆𝖓𝖐

    • @BarryMichaels
      @BarryMichaels Před 6 lety +8

      Stop, it's cringy - its 2018, old stale cringy memes are not funny anymore

    • @NeptunesLagoon
      @NeptunesLagoon Před 6 lety +5

      the snail shape also resembles Egypt and the Gulf that boarders it, its a snail shape....
      and MEMES will return... MOCK MY WORDS Blasphemer!!!... Lol J/K

    • @ReddishNeck
      @ReddishNeck Před 6 lety +3

      Neptunes Lagoon *grammar. Oh, the irony.

    • @BarryMichaels
      @BarryMichaels Před 6 lety +3

      Memes are a thing, stale memes are just cringe

  • @z.xdtcfy
    @z.xdtcfy Před 2 lety +5

    Immortal snail existed in the middle ages

  • @ohnename4076
    @ohnename4076 Před 5 lety +48

    *clap clap* meme review.

  • @tnought
    @tnought Před 7 lety +11

    Vox: Answering the important questions.

  • @kurz6860
    @kurz6860 Před 7 lety +486

    It's interesting how the monks could draw clothes perfectly but knew barely anything about anatomy.

    • @JustinCage56
      @JustinCage56 Před 7 lety +46

      360sblulev I can't believe your comment got upvoted

    • @kurz6860
      @kurz6860 Před 7 lety +36

      I'm not complaining about humans combined with animals or other impossible stuff, that would be hypocrytical of me because I like to draw crazy creatures too, I have nothing against it. It just seems weird for me that they made the clothes look extremely realistic while the faces and body proportions of normal humans are kinda off.

    • @grandsome1
      @grandsome1 Před 7 lety +49

      Max Hofman Words and symbols had litteral reality bending property in the mind of the ancient people (especially when a nobleman can get killed with one word), so artists would often refrain from drawing living things too well by fear of the drawing becoming alive or of fear of blasphemy. There's that sort of motif in many story from the Jewish golems to Pinocchio. This is also why Egyptian drew the way they did, and were afraid of writing some people names on walls. And this is also where the concept of spells comes from.

    • @kurz6860
      @kurz6860 Před 7 lety +15

      That's cool to know! Thanks for informing me.

    • @neeneko
      @neeneko Před 7 lety +27

      Keep in mind that a lot of it was stylistic, and the styles changed over time.

  • @malahamavet
    @malahamavet Před 4 lety +16

    BEHOLD THE MIGHTY SNAIL MEME!!! one of the oldest memes in history

  • @smallstudiodesign
    @smallstudiodesign Před 3 lety +4

    Seems like we’re heading back into *The Dark Ages* - so why not learn more about Medieval Art?

  • @sias9546
    @sias9546 Před 6 lety +22

    My own hypothesis on the manuscript snail phenomenon is much simpler, less psychologically venturesome, and dare I say nearer-fetched. It goes as such: SNAILS ARE ARMORED.

    • @xaedes
      @xaedes Před 6 lety +5

      Even simpler: snails eat paper(--> enemy of books) and they put up the fighters against the snails to give the book some protection. Not that the snails would care..