The Problem With Wuthering Waves Designs
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For timestamps aside from Scar and Baizhi at the beginning, the rest of the characters are in alphabetical order.
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Have to disagree with the Jianxin take, I think she the only one where the black/white colour really makes sense given her whole thing is the ying and yang.
Finally, someone who knows what's up.
As a Main DPS Jianxin Main, I approve this message 👍
then yang yang should be all black, and ying ying should be all white. just kidding, I also love her because of her smile
@@irvinp688her wink + smile
while they did select the muted color aesthetic i personally like seeing things that people could wear. I'm in general not a huge fan of using tons of different colors or super bright colors, this kinda design is purely preference though.
I didn't consider this perspective! A lot of the designs could probably be easier to cosplay compared to the other gacha chara designs we see.
Functional outfits>>>anything else
@@Kurokami112 yeah if the function of Chixia's outfit is to look like a hippie asking for a beating then I agree.
@@noxauranyxHey just so you know that the reason why black and white is a primary color in the outfits is the fact they live in an post apocalyptic world, it’s not an excuse but it makes it make sense
@@Kurokami112 functional outfits? people are even sluttier IRL than anime characters.
I actually really like the designs and muted color aesthetic. it gives the game a uniqueness that separates it from other open world rpgs that it competes with, and gives it a sense of realism. And there are still designs like encore, Verina, yinlin, jihnsi, changli, etc that have different palates. It just makes everything fit together more nicely, and while not every character has that uniqueness that genshin has, with the setting of the game and the storyline, I think the muted color and more realistic approach fits the game better,
That is true! Perhaps instead of viewing it as an issue this can instead be a unique point for Wuthering Waves and Kuro Games!
Speaking of uniqueness, putting dori and diona side to side makes me wonder if one is just a skin for the other
That's quite classical Cyberpunkish anime style.
@@dokutah2480 Dori and Diona ? Yea, they look so same..... 🤡
@@Xelluse
I played Punishing Gray Raven (Kuro's previous game) and the color palettes and design style is similar to that game considering both games are set in a post apocalyptic world. It's definitely not for everyone but I personally prefer the characters in this game and I think makes it stand out to me. I also prefer the overall art direction/art style as well with a lot of mature characters.
Ooh that's interesting! I like the mature approach as well and I'm curious to see how not only the story develops, but what characters and their designs will look like down the road!
Kinda fitting in a apocalyptic world, again is not good having a rainbow design in this genre. Overall the design kinda cool
Agree with you here
Just cuz you can't have rainbow bubbly color designs doesn't means you can't have even the bare minimum color variety. With Changli and Jinhshi out, we're nearing atleast half the roster where their primary colors are white mixed with a secondary minor color
Atleast black universally looks cool but white by itself is a boring color which very few people can pull and most importantly, this is a gacha game. It doesn't matters if Wuwa's Genshin 2.0 or not but characters need to differ and look different from each other. Colors play a major part in separating characters from each other and if we end up getting a roster where half of the characters look nearly the same, that also on a boring color, people might stop pulling, no matter how meta the certain characters are.
Appearances matter
@@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1 what're you yapping about? Also don't mention genshin or whatever that is, doesn't care about the color as long as the design is nice and appealing to the eyes. Look what happened to Itto, that's what you call a boring design very horrendous.
I like most of the designs even though there is a lot of a similar color palette. But the jiggle physics are too much IMO, especially characters like Yinlin, she looks good, she doesn't need to have perpetual motion boobs spinning while she stands still. If the onigiri pants were too much I think they need to realize a lot of us find the insane physics distracting too. I do kind of hope the designs stray more from Genshin and other games with characters like Calcharo. Some of the designs are so close to Genshin characters they feel more like Hoyoverse characters than some actual Hoyoverse expy characters.
Dial up the jiggle
The slight jiggle when she’s idle is due to her heavy breathing. If you zoom in and look closely you will see that her body is moving slight causing it to jiggle while idle. You need to realize most characters in the game ain’t wearing bras to begin with hence the heavy jiggling. Character with tight clothing barely if not don’t have the jiggle physiques at all like Yang Yang, Sanhua etc
@@calebstephan2083 That is not how boobs work lol. Her boobs are literally rotating separate from each other, she could be breathing like a track star that just did a marathon and it wouldn't make her boobs just go all over the place in her dress. And that next point is also no true, characters like Taoqi, that kind of top would not be moving like that, same thing with Changli not to mention all 3 have no practical reason to have outfits that allow their boobs to do any of that, 2 of them are warriors with claymores and Yinlin's whole outfit doesn't really make sense with her character. She's trying to blend in and sneak around but she has the most eye catching sexual outfit. You can try and spin it but the reality is they look like that just because females in these games sell sex. The guys actually are designed for their function because they don't usually sexualize them for sales in the same way and that is off putting for people like me that would rather all the characters match their function instead of the girls just being overly bouncy at every opportunity because they want guys to pull.
@@mismismism idc, preach to someone else
@@lclnbm You commented to my post, no one is preaching but you, no one sent for you, this is my opinion.
4:40 it's probably due to her mutation
Yangyangs feather hair
Mortefi dragon arm
Calcharo corruption
Verina vine hair
LingYang being a human with animal features (he's an animal who shapeshifted to a human lore wise)
Sanhua sharingan she's blind to everything but strong energy so she sees us perfectly
Taoqis narcolepsy
Jiyans dragon eyes
Jinhsi has dragon horns
Changli has a Phoenix arm
You get the idea
Chixia isn't originally a redhead either
Exactly. Jiyan also has green dragon scales on his neck which is covered by the turtle neck he wear but you can see a bit of it coming out below his cheek area.
The black, white, and red seems to be a motif probably related to the little story Scar gives you upon meeting him. Lots of black, white, and red in that story too. Not sure where the green and blue from Verina, Yuanwu, etc., come into play though if any.
sounds more like a preference rather than a problem. I personally like the designs, especially female rover.
I like the designs too! Would just like some more variety, and this is an opinion based video so thats very fair!
@@noxauranyxthere’s literally only like 6 five star characters so far 🤦. Complaining about variety in a game that just came out with barely any characters? Come on now. Every gacha game that release in 1.0 had lack of variety of character as well because there were BARELY ANY CHARACTERS
@@calebstephan2083All the hoyo games when they 1st came out had decent color variety among all the characters. Even ZZZ, a post apocalyptic game that's gonna release next week, has more color variety in the base game than Wuwa did
It doesn't matters if the games are post apocalyptic or not. Color variety in your characters matter, especially in a gacha game where you want your characters to sell. Nobody will want to pull for characters no matter how meta they are if their designs can't attract their attention first
Having half of your roster looking the same in a gacha game is the last thing you wanna do
Personally i really do like Jianxin's design.
-The mostly black and white color scheme, representing Yin and Yang and her taoist ideals.
-The outfit being a relatively modest outfit compared to a lot of the cast, but still having a bit of skin to show that, although she's from the mountains and grew up as a monk, she's very free with how she thinks while still being able to uphold her taoist ideals. Although i feel this COULD have been done a little more nicely by making the outfit a LITTLE bit more consistent, and maybe even add more flowing aspects to emphasis her aero element/free flowing nature, like a long, detached sleeve or something rather than her long arm length gloves. I feel its good enough as is.
-The stupidly long Ahoge. Honestly i just really love it lol.
And yeah, i feel less crazy knowing im not the only who feels like Female Rovers design feels really weird in a lot of places.
-the random straps
-Her...shorts? When you look at them and think about it, dont make ANY sense dimensionally
-The BIG ASS BOW that is glued to her head.
Great video though! Definitely interesting to hear what you had to say about things.
Long live black/white/gold + character specific color.
i like most of the designs and how they mix together, the most monochromatic ones like sanhua and baizhi are really cool, and the most colorful like verina or danjin are beautiful, without trying to outshine every other character or competing for attention.
Yeah some details make no sense, like f.rover straps, but given how original the designs are in gacha space i think they turned out really good.
I'd say the designs turn out really well too! This color palette is a really good one and I can see why the designers chose to use this one lots. My main worry was that the characters may blend together. :o I do agree Sanhua and Baizhi have to be one of my top designs from that group!
a lot of people have already pointed out that the muted colors and being mostly black and white across the board fits with the world more due to the post-apocalyptic setting but the character’s outfit also doesnt look too out of place or outlandish overall
if you compare the clothing of playable characters in genshin to their npc there is a stark differences in design, their outfits feel over designed while the npc’s outfit is under designed like if you modded the npc to a different game with a similar fantasy setting of the same regional inspiration you really wouldnt be able to tell if they were native to the game or not but if you modded the playable characters instead they stick out like a sore thumb yet in wuwa outfits like what jiyan, mortife and sanhua wears wouldnt look off if given to npc outside of a few pieces like jiyan’s green outerwear for example or sanhua’s accessories, there are some outliers like changi and verina but wuwa’s outfit doesnt standout at a glance until you scrutinize it and rely on a few splash’s of colors or extra details to personalize it with the characters themselves
their outfit has an attention to detail that is both subtle yet still unique in contrast to genshin’s visually loud outfits
Encore doesnt have "white hair", it's wool, or "sheep hair"? Idk what u call it in English. She has mutations like many other characters (hard to miss with the ram horns in her ultimate). I understand not liking them but it's honestly the only indicator of her mutation outside combat so I thinks its fine. I didn't even notice it at the beginning.
All I have to say is the characters fit the world that they belong in
I kinda disagree as the muted color is very common in this setting. It also helps make any bright colors like skills and burst stand out. If it does add more bright colors, it would be harder to see the parry mechanic. On itself it does look monotone and dull but it does work very well with this game, but in a game like genshin it wouldn't work as well.
This is a really good point! I do hope the design team explores more with the muted colors, but the bursts do work really well with the game!
Basically this yeah, the art style should not clash upon itself but also not upon the game. I still play Genshin and Tower of Fantasy along with WuWa and holy bajeezus ToF had a time where they NEEDED to clean up the visual clutter from the start of design. It looks really cool but most times I just aim where I see damage numbers because I can't see anything. Having a function to just lower the effects opacity is not a good solution. Fortunately newer characters did not suffer that disastrous decision and started to look more clean like Genshin.
I think those outfits just suit characters and their vibe, chixia is a little chaotic just like her design
Yeah her design looks like she dressed herself lol i appreciate that
1:05 no you dont understand, we NEED the physics
AGREEGE lol
To give more clearance - Kokomi is not a General btw, General is Goro and he is not originally a military guy, but he began leading the rebellion, Kokomi is a Priestess of Watatsumi Shrine and her design is literally telling her story and even story of her bloodline, that forcefully made her a Priestess (no more spoilers), even when she did not want to... So Kokomi should have no details that pointing that she is some sort of General, cos she is not one and she is not a leader of an army......... Pope in Crusade wars did not wear any specific uniform that points that he is a head of entire army.
P.S. - Goro's design references the Jokyo Sodo and Shimabara rebellions and have a lot of from Tsukiyomi-no-mikoto and his outfit is shozoku and he wears tekko, hakama, and kyahan, so sorry, but ironically Goro have one of the most realistic designs in the game to real history..... 🤷♂
I do like the designs better in genshin since they stand out more. But i think both the tone and settings of the games play a part, too. In genshin, it's taking place during what we would consider 16 to 1800s, where flashy designs were the norm, especially in high society. Whereas in WuWa, its more modern where simplicity and function is the more prevalent style. I think the outfits fit the respective tones of their games at least.
the best comment i've seen so far. i hate how many genshin and wuwa fans fighting each other over which designs are better. both fit their game so genshin fans saying wuwa designs are boring bc too pale or wuwa fans saying genshin designs are too childish bc they are colorful (i hate the colorful = immature stereotype in general. let adults wear colours if they want to. 😭) is annoying, in the end it's just a matter of personal taste.
@niconii3663 personally, the "battling" between genshin and WuWa is dumb to me. It's like the whole console war thing. I just bought all the consoles and built a pc so i can play all the games. I play both genshin and WuWa, and they both have pros and cons. But i still like both and will continue playing both.
About Yangyang, her feathers turns blue-ish when she's on full stack
What ?! I have to check that out !
@@MikojinToyunda it looks really good at night
@@primadansaripudin9269 Indeed !!
iirc, jianxin too for her shield
that 5 star healer's original outfit looked like a space suit... she looked like she was a space pilot.... its actually great that they pivot it and changed it to look like she is more in tune with nature because it would be off putting to see green thorns with a space suit outfit....
I cant. You broke my heart when you said you weren't a fan of the best looking MC gacha character of all time. Objectively more humans lover her design than they dislike it.
@@noxauranyx yesn't. 🙂↔️🙂↕️
She just ain't a degenerate like u guys
Those straps were original a webbing to attach an armpit purse in the original design.
In my opinion, I like the color palette in WuWa. With the setting of the game, the designs to me really fit in with the aesthetic.
We all know this game is a competitor to Genshin, so this more "mature" style is a way WuWa can differentiate itself with Genshin's more "anime" characters. I do not read manga nor manhua, but I feel like that is a good comparison here. _"Normal"_ manga is much more stylistic than those _"mature looking"_ manhua videos I see on TikTok
+The current team I am running is Calcharo, Sanhua, and Baizhi. All these characters have that black/white/gold color scheme which I absolutely love. The least visually appealing character to me is Verina.
+ The muted red WuWa decided to add for their characters (Danjin, Chixia, Yinlin, Changli, Moretefi) and dark blues (Jiyan, Yuanwu, Yangyang) is super nice to me!
- These less poppy colors help balance the physically eye catching outfits the characters have.
+ the future team comp Jinhsi, Sanhua, and Baizhi would look divine
+ how dare you dislike Jianxin's design (understandable argument though)
The manga and anime comparison is an interesting one! I agree that the muted red and dark blues are a nice touch. Danjin I have a feeling is going to sneak her way into being one of my next built units once my main two teams are done.
Im sorry Jianxin lovers waaa!
I love wuthering waves designs. They look more mature imo
I feel the opposite, one thing that I disliked about Genshin is the characters are all wearing bright and colorful clothes, almost feels like a childish competition of who can stand out the most. I like the color palette in WuWa because it feels more mature and calm. It's rare to see a game with this many characters wearing mostly black, I love it.
With how Genshin's designs can be...I definitely understand that feeling. Sanhua in my opinion is rocking her outfit despite being in that color palette pool.
Personally I will never understand how colorful = childish to some people.
Totally see your point here and I can’t argue with you when you look at the characters in isolation. It might just be a preference thing but I actually like it.
Parts of the game world are totally messed up have had the literal colour sucked out of them. So there’s an overall identity across both the world and characters that I really appreciate.
Learned a lot about the design philosophy from this. Thank you!
I just wanna say welcome to the KuroGames
The developer who really love black and white, 80% of characters kurogames create in their previous game "Punishing Gray Raven" always have dominant white or black color 😅
Actually fits with the dev's name lol
It makes them fit into the world they are in, and since it's another gacha they have to make a lot of characters to sell on the banners. So they will end up with so more colourful designs sooner or later anyway.
The option to make your own character is definitely missing again, but at least i can find some design i like in wuwa.
When i played genshin i really tried to like at least one of the character designs there, but not a single one ever managed it, they are all just overloaded impractical designs, that don't even fit into the overly bright (and weird scale) world of that game.
I like techwear rather than grandma pants lol
I think its because they plan to release skins for the characters like they do in PGR.
Hopefully they release skins more frequently than a certain game.
Kuro being Kuro~ like their Red/White/Black combination like Punishing Gray Raven characters designs. it's pro for me though, since it's my preference.
I'm bias because i love black and white color palette, but i really like the designs, they can mix together if you try.
As an example my team is Lingyang, Sushua and Verina.
In my gameplay i see white (lingyang hair and clothing), black (sushua clothing), yellow/green (verina hair) and light blue for the ice.
In a vacuum they mix together, but on gameplay is different.
Using almost the same color palette can make someone focus on the In the differences of each character.
That's a good point! With a party of three you may not see this come into play often.
My main party is Rover, Encore, and Verina and there's plenty of balance in there too. Much respect for Lingyang! :D
Personally, i like the designs because they're easy on the eyes. They blend together so i can focus my attention on the enemy for doing perfect dodges and parries, this is especially true in Hologram 😭From a gameplay standpoint, vibrant and 'distracting' pallettes take your focus away from the action.
I enjoy wuwa character designs but yea, the muted color palette is takijg a toll on me xD. Thank god my main tema is Jiyan and Verina tho, i can see that beautiful green everyday
we need a character with a purple pallet badly or a green one
I like that they are trying to adhere to a certain aesthetic and I'm all for it, but it doesn't have to be only black and white, they could use a wide range of other muted colors and include some bright details
About Kokomi... She's more priestess than leader of an army. This is why she's wearing priestess's clothes.
Interesting Insight
11:00 her design is a work of art
12:25 her design scream to her enemies "you are going to have your as kicked; you will lose"
When it comes to balancing details of a character between the top and bottom, is a situation that would pertain to vtuber models. If it is bottom heavy, the model will look too simple because 99% of the time you only see the top half, but if you put detail on both parts, it can become overcrowded. Luckily it's a 3d character model so you can do either.
One important thing to note is that each character designs at least by my interpretation, doesn't focus on individuality but culture, clothing trends and profession, which makes not the characters individually unique, but communally unique (such as people from different factions, areas, etc).
We'll be getting more and more of the world unlocked, so it will be easier to differentiate between characters, also Kuro's previous game, PGR, their designs become more unique while still upholding the black/white aspect. It includes the enemies.
-Danjin main
I like the color palletes it makes then fit with the world around them and the other NPCs. Meanwhile Star Rail and Genshin theres these Hyper Rainbow colored super humans next to some NPCs with jeans and a t-shirt.
Just wanna talk about how most of these designs don't make any sense at all as clothes or outfits--to the point where most of them look AI-designed, then real artists cleaned up the generated concepts. Chixia is easily the biggest offender, just mentally imagining what it's like to put on or take off her outfit is a headache and actually examining her clothes reveals they make NO physical sense. Her top is made of three completely separate garments, she's wearing half of a jacket, and the thing around her waist isn't even a shirt or coat--it just looks like one. Jiyan also only has half a coat with the illusion that it's folded up and every segment of Yinlin's design is inconsistent. Game looks absolutely gorgeous, but I would be surprised if all of the designs were made by real people.
Chixia basically has on a poncho and is rocking shorts and a sports bra or bandages
What makes you question that the team used ai to design the characters
Yinlin had her design altered before Jiyan is the only character unchanged
Chixia was an entirely different being before
Back then all the characters had no sense of style or variations they all looked the same
feel free to check out the old chixia model it's a night and day difference
The only thing I can say about her design is out of everyone she's got the most random assortment of things on her
I think it adds to her free spirit of a character who's constantly on the go
Her hands light up when she shoots I'd be surprised if her clothes burned up and that's why she wears shorter clothing
Yeah cuz genshins outfits make so much sense 💀 what are you even talking about.
I actually quite like the mute palette. Idk why but I think they're good to look at.
"I'll be surprised if she's not related to scar in some way"
She might be right omg
lowkey i feel like encore's white hair tufts make her look a little bit like a sheep herself for some reason LOL and that's really cute to me, so i'm gonna have to disagree with that critique personally. good review otherwise.
I agree. Color pallette wise its been very muted and in the entire plot line its only been actually Chixia, Encore and Verina that sort of gibe that vibrant vibe in the entire landscape of things...most of the map is also following this drab, muted look so there hasn't been any real location on the map that has stuck to me as memorable so far..
If Black & White/Monochrome with splashes of color is not something you enjoy Kuro Games is really just not for you. It's the style they have stuck to for 4 years now, and I and many other Kuro fans of course, love it. They just scream Kuro designs to me and having a recognizable style definitely has its own advantages. There's always gonna be exceptions but I would expect about 80% of the outfits to be primarily white and/or black.
I dont mind the limited coloro for the outfit. But what i know from Kuro is that they are really good when it comes to mixing hair color for character. For example: Changli
Taoqi gives me Charlotte Fire Emblem Fates vibes: big boobs and border guards who don't look like they're part of any military. Not that I don't like her! I think she's cute! Charlotte tho wears the literal definition of "bikini armor" (aka a bikini + some armor plates in non-vital areas)
I can definitely see the FE Fates vibes! Taoqi is cute (I also have a bias for pink charas haha).
I need to double check her profile in the game but from her animations, Taoqi comes off as this Lazy/Sleepy type character so her not dressing the part is probably cause it takes too much effort. That's my take away at least.
@@Kazuk1787 Same here! 😊😊
Taoqi is more narmaya than Charlotte
Let's appreciate the "Oh gosh would you look at the time" meme please T_T
7:20
When you hear Genshin's music right of a bat, in a video about a different game... you know what's the real problem for these people.
After seeing how muted the world and characters of WuWa, i realised how bright and colourful Genshin and other open world and gacha games are. I persobally prefer WuWa but everyone has an opinion, we dont have to agree😁
Not a huge fan of Both rover design, female mc would look better with jacket while male mc should have a better hairstyle. That said, with the leak of Changli and Jinshi, I can see where they are going.
EDIT: I hope we get skins and dorm system, PGR has tons of them
yeah verina and encore are the only colorful units i feel like everyone else does seem to blend together with the black gray and white
I like Yinlin's design.
Don't you hate on Chixia!! the asymetry makes it one of the best design imo, but I agree Female rover would've looked much better in male rover's outfit, literally the reason I chose male rover. Also I don't think the colour is that important, the outfits themselves are very samey, like, just count the percentage of female characters that aren't wearing a dress with their shoulders uncovered, nothing wrong with those but it shoudn't be all except like 2, there's so much more they could do with female character designs.
Good video, your voice sounds shaky tho (I might be wrong), have some confident about yourself and also don't be afraid to share your thoughts with the world!
Honestly I prefer wuwa’s designs so much more, (and I say this in the perspective of an artist) for the simple fact they aren’t overstimulating for the eyes, compared to other games and I’ll use genshin as an example, I don’t think they want the characters to stand out more than the others since the designs follow the fashion trends of Jinzhou , culture, as well as the utilities of their clothes.
And I honestly thought that these characters have less color variety than Genshin characters, but after analyzing, they actually have the same or even more variety, since Genshin normally doesn’t use different colors, they use one color with different tonalities as a way to stand out more, also, Genshin characters require very recognizable shaped characters since most of their models are the same, while wuwa has slightly different models for every character, which differences to every character. You can take dynamic as well, most of wuwa characters have triangle shaped or circled shaped clothing or proportions which has a huge impact in humans eyes.
So even if people think there’s no variety then idk maybe it’s personal preference, I like the monotone characters cuz it’s a apocalyptic setting (and I use glasses too so bright colors aren’t a friend of mine) 😭😭
That clock, yu gi reference is beautiful, yea gold really overused with black and white.
Yangyang's feathers glows blue when her forte bar is full.
unrelated; I love the wuwa videos using genshin ost bc the game has none to show lmao
I personally like their designs; it just bothers me that everyone has either black, white, red or pink hair in the exact same shades everytime.
LMAO I love genshins OST and I thought it would be funny.
You hit my thoughts exactly. Love the designs but some more variety would be nice!
Danjin is a blood mage sword user
Before her personality rework she was a bloodthirsty psycho justice gal
Now she's just a justice gal
rover mc desperately need more fabric
she's fine.
I think having a design motif is what makes wuwa designs so much better than other gacha games. Say Genshin or even HSR makes me feel like i'm playing fortnite Goku vs Lebron James vs Sonic and Knuckles shooting ak47s and shotguns and skateboarding on rockets. Every character feels so out of place and goofy. It's impossible to take anything seriously. Even just casual chats are the goofiest things ever, because the designs are so out of place from the world. In wuwa while it's obvious who the playable characters are, and Jiyan is pretty out of place (not as out of place as hoyoverse characters ofc), but like you said he at least feels like his role as a general, and everyone else seems normal-ish. And it helps that Jiyan's design is very cool on its own.
I'm super happy you liked male rover and yuanwu's designs. They're probably not going to the be the most popular cosplays, but I also think they're good designs that fit in the world
The title is going to incur the wrath of the egg Sanhua has the coolest outfit
I actully think the black white color pallete is great. It really fits into the kinda post apocalyptic vibe theyre going for and i think if they added a character with a color pallete that you whould see in genshin they whould look out of place. This is why i think verina looks kinda weird and like she shouldnt be in this game like she belongs somewhere else
Personally i really like the black and white being incorporated into a lot of the designes i do think that Baizhi and Jinxun look too similar unless its revealed that they are related, but i still like both of theur designes. For the most part, to me the black and white and a third colour work to make the characters feel like they are a part of a cohesive organization and the overall design help make these characters feep like actual people. For me genshin does have good designes but they are way too busy and way too colourful. This more muted desugne is a lot more pleasant to my eyes and reminds me of a lot of my favorite anime like Bleach, JJK, Akame ga kill and Fate stay night, whereas genshin reminds me more of Salor Moon, Madoka Magica, MHA and Konosuba.
Also i totaly agree for female rover. I see so many saying shes like the best famle mc in gatcha gaming but im just not seeing it
i agree with your opinion on the black/white/gold overuse, but i think the strongest usage of it is in the male rover. i really like his design!
my biggest problem though is i have trouble discerning some of the pc characters from npcs, though i think its more a fault of the 3d models than it is of the designs themselves. i'm sorry but lowkey thought mortefi was an npc until i pulled him in gacha, and yuanwu's 3d model isnt doing him many favors either
Thats completely fair, and I agree that male rover's design is well done! I almost wish I picked him in the selection screen.
Verina's design may differ because she came from a different region.
That's what I was thinking! I wonder as the game progresses if we may see more designs like hers, but I'm hearing that this palette is a preference of Kuro Games so we shall see!
funny how you said dial down the booba effects and literally every time your vtuber avatar talks your booba jiggles lol i like pretty much all the designs except like every gun user and gauntlet users designs are not memorable for me
I used to think WuWa character designs and color schemes were boring but when I played the game, I realized they fit in the the post apocalyptic spooky theme of the game so well. This is primarily my fault though, I kept benchmarking genshin character designs for WuWa character designs and I was wrong. Now I prefer WuWa character designs over Genshin character designs especially after the 1.1 character leaks. I prefer the more realistic and proportional body parts of WuWa.
A vtuber model complaining about boob physics is peak irony.
I personally really like the design. It's not a "bright" world and it won't be for a while so i think it's fitting.
I don't agree on the Male Rover and Jianxin
Jianxin 100% needed that design due to her yin yang motif and the Male Rover has a simple yet cool design. Black is universally accepted as a cool color and sometimes, a man just needs some simple black clothes to look good
Besides that, I agree that there's too much of the black and white colors being used with a secondary minor color
It doesn't matters if the games are post apocalyptic or not. Color variety in your characters, even if it's the bare minimum, do matter, especially in a gacha game where you want your characters to sell. Nobody will want to pull for characters no matter how meta they are if their designs can't attract their attention first
Goku, Ichigo, Luffy, Cloud, Barret, Tanjiro, Adult Naruto, Kenshiro, Guts, Broly (Dragon Ball Super) all don't have rainbow bubbly colors like the Genshin characters but they still have their primary colors that are different and make them stand out from others
Having half of your roster looking the same in a gacha game is the last thing you wanna do
Moving forward, one of the biggest hurdles for Kuro to overcome is adding the bare minimum color varieties in their characters and it's not like they can't do it. We've seen what they can do with guys like Jiyan, Danjin, Verina, etc. I think Kuro might know this themselves and they might start making the characters stand out from each other later on down the line
Yeah I agree, it's a shame they went so much on black and white color palette, I wished a little more colors, or just less white/black lol
I hope we get to see some more color palette variety in future chara designs! As the roster grows it would help balance things out.
Honestly I don’t focus on Role-play games, so I don’t really have any opinions about Wuthering wave’s characters
I personally really like the character designs and prefer them iver genshin.
The design fit with the setting they are in and also make the overall vibe more mature wich i always appreciate.
Genshin design is amazing aswell obviously but having a genshin color pallete to a lot of characters in wuwa would ruin the mood in my opinion. I guess it's just depense in the person, some really like colorful design and a diverse color pallete in a colorfull fantasy world.
While some preferr more down to eath design/color pallettes that feels more mature
I would also like to defend the monk gilr design(i forgot her name) since her whole thing is yin and yang
Sorry but female Rover and Jianxin have amazing designs. One of my favorites. Guess it depends on preferences, but saying its a bad design objectively is just a bad take.
Thigh highs save lives 😂
yeah theres a problem, they are all too good
I hate colorful characters like genshin, were different in taste of color, i like dark and white more on a character outfit, only hair, eyes, skins i like colorful
It's based on Feng Shui.
Completely disagree on Jianxin. People try to down play her in the meta, and now this?! Blasphemy!! Justice for Monk Bae
idk why people are disagreeing so much, I get this issue and almost no one talks about it. There is no problem is using muted colors, the problem is using the same color palette over such a huge percentage of characters. It would be fine if they used black + white + gold on 1 or 2 characters, but they used it on a lot of characters. Maybe they can try using different tones of black and white, and some other secondary color.
I'm shocked that a genshin artist who's art is incredibly novice-looking and riddled with fundamental errors is commenting on the character designs of wuwa lol
go sit back down kid.
What i don't like about the male rover is the "Kirito clone drip", can gacha devs stop with this? No, can the whole anime and anime adjacent franchises stop with this? Why does he have a freaking BOWL CUT?!! He looks BORING... i can't, i can't with the Kirito clones. SAO came out in what? 2010?!! IT'S TIME TO STOP!! What happened with the Yugi's of anime with crazy and unique designs? What did we do to deserve these Kirito looking asses bro?!!
Fr they all look the same! I genuinely dont understand people who prefer male mc options 😭 my friend has male mc for hsr and wuwa and like... they look the same and they're just the typical male otaku insert look
The issue with WuWa designs for me is that the white/black and their mid-tones are just that. Pure grey, pure black, pure white and no undertones. Same goes for their actual "accent" colors. They're just a solid, saturated and non-interesting primary color for the most part, making it all seem pretty boring.
Which is why characters like Encore and Verina stand out more, they have subtle shade differences and not just fully saturated, pure red or yellow as their only actual colors. They also have slightly different shades and hues in their design, not just one that turns a little bit darker in some places but is still overall the same color.
WuWa has a severe color pallette issue when overall their designs are pretty solid.
Colors are not everything in a design. The forms are what makes my eyes bleed. Their pseudo-futuristic intent gone all wrong (Scar is the worst in this aspect).
Specially all those random pieces of cloth hanging everywhere. Chixia, for example, looks like she has a lab-coat on her shoulder but torn to pieces by a bear.
Sanhua is beautiful, tho. If it wasn't for that vinyl skirt and random straps hanging from it, she would be perfect.
I think a GENUINE PROBLEM in the design of these characters is pandering. It is not equally done. Everything feels done FROM or FOR the male gaze, especially the exposure of female designs and restriction of male designs. Just compare female vs male rover-we all know who looks more interesting. The most skin exposure you have on the males is Mortefi’s unbuttoned shirt and Jiyan’s freakin armpit. They took away Scar’s interesting jumpsuit (I agree the onigiri strip was a bit distracting even tho I liked it) but now he is stuff covered neck to toe with a stupid button up shirt and boring cargo pants-like all. the. other. Men 🙃.
I’m fine with sex-appeal as long as it done equally. I’m loving withering waves but it is not being fair in this regard. I think female/queer gaze matters just as much as the males and they’d probably make more money if they pandered equally.
Complaining about lack of colors in character designs of a game set in a post apocalyptic?
Seriously?
Genshin has really killed 99% of gacha players brain cells.
I first picked female Rover but after seeing her in cutscenese and going "Jesus, why is she so damn hot", i switch to male MC because i wouldn't be able to focus on the story.
Asymmetrical designs are disturbing; when done excessively, for example look at how bad destiny 2 Warlock amor is; it really sucks
The only time asymmetrical design in excessive make sense, are things like spaceships, and torrents and some weapon like flame launchers vehicles; because the nature of them potentially has not only a design choice, but also a functional choice; what I mean excessive asymmetrical makes sense almost always on these things; with proper application still needed
functionality will greatly override athletics, trends, styles etc., simplicity, enhances comfortability, and tones and shade/light, greatly enhances the visual appeal. patterns well done greatly override texture resolution
This is the reason I decided to play Zenless zone zero over Wuthering waves.
ZZZ has a fricking bear 😭
Agree with most of what you said specifically about the Rovers, budget Kirito over over rated female rover anyway. Even though I like chalcharo design I wish they added more purple to him.
Scar is worse than paimon
i feel like they are just thirst trapping us with the black and white tight, revealing clothes, but honestly that only works if there aren’t as many characters like that… the designs are so similar that it kinda pushes me away, and the only character i’m waiting for is Scar, since he’s unique (tho also has black and white in his design)
Personally i grew bored of these types of designs in games..not the color palette but the textureless confusing clothes, with the weirdest zipper/button placing and unnecessary out of character revealing clothes.
part of what drove me away from genshin is character designs and this one followed, as fun as wuwa is I couldn’t handle seeing the designs, almost all of them, apart from some..and even those i thought of some little preferable changes for them.
wish more game companies experiment with their designs and go wild with them, they’re almost always playing it safe with those boring unimaginative same ideas.
I really need to see more armor, more lore fitting clothes, more diverse designs!! Those futuristic china inspired designs specially in wuwa aren’t working at all imo
disclaimer I never played the game, but from just visuals I think that WW's character design have quite some problem, expecially the color palette. Tooooooo much characters have large area of black, I know the world building is dark but making everything look black still....it makes the characters "feel" too similar by just visual. Second, most color palettes in WW makes me feel like there isn't a focus, I don't know how to explain this in short, I feel like the characters lack some primary attraction and isn't memorable, for me a good design should be like an apple between the leaves, but WW's give me the feeling of just a pile of leaves, they should “have something” that catch people's eyes in the first glance. Also as said in the video of the overly repeatability of color palette, these designs might look good independently, but when standing together they feel too similar. It's like the only color thay can think out of, excluding black white gold, are only red red, blue blue, and pink, the colors' variation isn't enough, your game just started and you already have four characters with red hair and black n white clothes.
Black IS the best balancing color to be use in designs, along with white, but WW's over using of large area of black annoys me. Also they don't use any contrasting colors to make things pop up (this might be a very personal opinion but I think the clash of well balanced contrasting colors are like sweet desserts, something like Navia (gold+blue) and Kuki (green+purple) from Genshin)
Okok I'm talking too much on colors, another problem I have with WW's design is the characters lack a "theme" for me, Encore have the best design in the game imo, her theme is sheep obviously, and a some don't have much problem, Verina's can be connected to nature, Lingyang is lion dance, Jianxin is YinYang, but then the other are just like "some sorta human" to me.
For now what I seen the only designs I think are good are the two lolis, maybe due to they are the only two with vibrant colors that makes them stand out the most lol.
(ps: these are all just my opinion, if you are into WW's designs it's nothing really wrong about it)
(edit: corrected some sentences' arrangement)
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