I am an indie tarot artist and artists who self publish make the art and invest their own money to produce it. They sell the deck in shops and absolutely do make money per deck. They pay their bills with the money and support their families. It is their occupation. Why does society not value artists and their skills. It is very sad.
We do value you, and the vast majority of tarot enthusiasts will never buy a fake deck. I want you to know, though, that there are some of us that have very little money, and indie decks are simply out of reach for us. Also, I’m disabled and I can’t handle a deck larger than about playing card size, again putting so many decks out of reach for me. Just food for thought when you design your future decks, to think inclusively. And of course I wish you every success.
It's not that we don't value. It's I'm going to spendy money that I WORKED for the best way it benefits ME. It's not my problem nor my responsibility to support you. It's not my responsibility to pay your bills and feed your family because you want to be a "creator" instead of working a job. If you have something I want or need, then I will buy it. Otherwise I'm under no obligation and neither is anyone else People get online, everyone is a keyboard warrior! Running their mouths and screaming the loudest about don't buy fake cards. The artists the artists. They're the ones that probably have the most knock off decks I buy cards because I'm drawn to them. I like the images. I like what the deck is based on. Not once not ever have I ordered a deck because of the artists. In fact, I have about 40 something decks. Most are knock off. I don't like calling them fake. They're not fake. They're very real. I can name the artist of about 2 decks!! That's how much the artists influence me. They don't People can say anything they want. When it comes down to it we all want what we want for as little money as possible. I love Knock Off decks. I can get 2 sometimes 3 different decks for the price I would pay for ONE original deck. I love collecting Tarot decks. Yes I mainly use knock off decks and some of my best and most accurate readings have been with knock off decks We're online. So you can't see my emotions or hear my expression or whatever. So please don't take me the wrong way. I'm not being or trying to be a smart a$$ to you. I'm not trying to say FVCK you I don't care. No. I'm just saying it the way it is. IDC what anyone thinks of me. I never have. It's not anyone's fault they're buying knock off decks and not yours. They're small. Easy to use. Easy to store. Easy to buy There's NOT a single shop in my area or any rural area around here that sells Tarot Cards. I have to travel to the city over an hour one way or order online. That applies to a lot of people. We don't exactly know what we want. We just want Tarot Cards. So we go to the site. One being mentioned in this video and we search for Tarot Cards. Then here's all these different decks come up that are very affordable!! YES!!!! I ant this one and that one and I like that one. 🤷🤷 simple as that. IDK anyone, except for the ones in CZcams videos with $300 manicures trying to show off their FAKE nails but not their face, just THOSE!! That say, OHHHH there's a new Tarot deck by my favorite artist. I just HAVE to find that deck!!! Nope. And most times they don't even pay for the deck!! They contact the artist or company and ask to be sent the deck for FREE, so they can review it on their CZcams. They want to make a video. Am I making sense?? You said you are an artist. You said you just really truly don't know why people don't feel obligated to hand you their money. That's what I read in your comment. So, from a customer standpoint, I explained it the best way I could.
@darkangel7820 wow...have you heard of plagerism? Indie decks have a copyright. I own the images and artwork I create. Fake decks are theft. They are produced in China so they can not be prosecuted. Stealing is unethical.
Dont be silly. Nothing stops the ~artist~ from finding a printer to then mass produce their decks to profit off each one. Many artists CHOOSE to be art SNOBS and want their work to come off ~exclusive~ and only sell to WEALTHY patrons who can pay $$$$. Poor people deserve access to art too. Artists need to stop their obsession with only working with wealthy buyers.
Supporting fake decks hurts the artists. The money goes to people who steal artists’ works. I also wish some original decks to be more affordable, but it doesn’t make it right to support theft.
Hi. You can blame the publisher for that. The cards are to big. They chip quickly. The price, some are to expensive, particular when they chip after 1 shuffle. ✌🏻🌳
So disheartening to see anyone promote theft and say you’re “wasting your money on buying the real deal.” This is not okay. So much blood, sweat and tears goes into making the art and to produce a quality product. Buy the right size if that’s what you need, but it’s not a good reason to send people toward knock offs.
It is a well-known fact that if someone is buying the $10 deck over the $50 plus deck, they never would have bought the legitimate deck in the first place. There is a trade off that some artists are not aware of... Its a known fact in the book industry that pirated ebooks actually boost their physical book sales buy the old word of mouth marketing. The same can be applied to any artist industry. I have seen many reviews of "fake" decks where, in the comments, people say they love the art and will buy the real deal instead. Some even buy the real deck and then the fake one, so they have the full-size version and a portable version also. Artists, you were never losing sales because people who buy cheap knock-offs were never going to buy the real deal in the first place. Its the sad truth that many refuse out of emotional strife to understand.
Although I can see possible truth in this statement, it’s absurd to use this as an argument. “Oh I promoted a fake & someone bought the real one cus of me so it cancels out my shit behavior. “ is your argument??
Although I can see possible truth in this statement, it’s absurd to use this as an argument. “Oh I promoted a fake & someone bought the real one cus of me so it cancels out my shit behavior. “ is your argument??
I totally understand the price and size thing I really do. I don't believe that they are cursed as such or that they will affect your readings. At the end of the day it is about intention and connection however, the creator in pure heart and mind created these decks for the spiritual benefit of others. the knock offs are there and only care about money that is made. I would compare it to this...if you had some business...art, candle making, some craft like business and someone came along and copied it exactly as yours...ripped you off and sold it for a profit...how would that make you feel? I struggle with the idea of investing in a business that stole of others?
I prefer the dupes mainly because of the size. The connection I made with some of my dupes were absolutely amazing based off the size alone... lol. I still try, and support the authors as well when my money is right. The creators should be the ones making the cheaper smaller version of their cards. That way they don't give that opportunity to others🤷🏽♀️. I actually think it would increase their sells, and keep their money at home. I've wasted so much money on decks I never connected with.
I love the idea of the artist, making their own baby versions that were of cheaper value for people who can’t afford it and it will definitely help with the fakes because the picture quality would almost definitely be better anyways
I am glad to find this video. The idea that it's bad karma to use fake ones or that it's cursed is the most capitalistic BS I have ever heard. In third world countries they only have fakes most of the time and they make it work. The wailing and whining of the people who hate these just reeks of privilege.
Its a way to scare people I guess. I recently bought the real The Good tarot and the Alie is better: smaller, mat, easy to handle where the real one is big, shiny and glossy and not at all making my readings with it better..
I live in a 3rl world country and I can't get expensives decks, they don't even mostly ship to my country, for this "spiritual" people judging on us for fake 78 papers cards I can't take them seriously.
@@Amalkavs LITERALLY, i just recently got my knoc off cards from Ali express and they're wonderful, i connected with them instantly. Buying them from the original source would cost so much more money that i don't have, and that i won't use for a deck of cards (only if i like it a lot)
You are totally correct! No way I can afford to pay full price for original decks, or even in many cases the prices for second hand originals. Is tarot only for a rich elite? I don't think so!
2 other great reasons for fakes, they help you figure out if a deck is for you. If you like it alot then go buy the real versions. Nothing worse paying £20-40 for a deck to find it sitting in a box collecting dust because its not right for you. The other being that real versions are so big they are hard to carry on the go, espeically if you have multiple decks. Keep the real ones at home, fakes on the god to prevent damaging the good decks
Wow, thank you for a wonderful video! I love to try aliexpress decks to decide if I even want a real one. Too much money wasted on real decks that I never use and it makes me feel down. With ali decks all the joy is very lighhearted. I call ali decks testers or deck samples. It helps me choose mindfully what I really want or not.
I can totally relate with your experience 😊 I too buy fake decks to test drive tarot/oracle/lenormand decks before buying the original ones too, because I honestly don't want to waste money buying the originals and be disappointed that they dont work for me, and not to mention how difficult it will be to look for other people who will buy the deck to get my money back somehow
@@MoonEmpath29 right? I just got a few very popular oracles from ali and no, they don't work for me at all! So glad that I will not spend more money or efforts into purchasing real ones. Saved me from bigger disappointment. On another hand I fell in love with 3 new tarot decks and want to get real ones.
You should “care”… Artists put so much time & work into creating these decks … You are PURPOSELY filling the pockets of SCAMMERS & now telling others it’s ok! ITS NOT OK 🙄🙄🙄
Thanks so much! I have recently purchased 3 knock off decks. One is a copy of a deck that I don't want to lose (and it came in a great tin)! Now I can carry it with me and not worry about losing or "ruining" it. The other 2 are decks that I cannot get shipped to my home country under ANY circumstances... I don't like to rip off creators, but if they are mass producing their own decks, shipping costs at the buyers expense should be a decision the buyer gets to make? Surely? So, sometimes it's our ONLY option. I do prefer to get the original, but sometimes its just not possible.
ONLY option? Be for real. A lot of popular decks have pocket versions. Hay house constantly has decks on sale for $15 or under. Pocket editions were in the last sale they had too. Try again
Never bought a fake deck. I buy used decks to save money. I do believe you make valid points that should be seriously considered by those making decks. 1. Packaging and size. I don’t have space for excessively packaged decks and would prefer to do without. And honestly, with environmental concerns, it would be better IMHO to make minimal packaging. I have had to toss large beautiful boxes as I have no where to store them. 2. I trim cards often as many are too big to work with comfortably. 3. Using these as trial decks sounds awesome actually. Nothing worse than buying a deck, not connecting with it, and being stuck with it. Everyone doesn’t live in an area where stores easily take returns.
What I see is that many people ranting against knock-offs actually do not care about the creator, what they really care about is being able to show off their supposed ‘moral superiority’ by buying the original decks. There was a time when there was not any tarot decks but the Tarot of Marseilles and the Rider Waite, some people didn’t even needed those but plain playing cards and other didn’t even need cards at all… No showing off their fancy boxes or decks, if they bought an original tarot or not… If your product is great people will definitely buy it no matter the price or if there are fake copies or not. It’s like people do not know how the real world works…
Do any of you know that you are giving your money to thieves and gangsters when you buy these decks? How then can you place them on an altar? Shame on you!
100% agree with you. I will use FAKE decks as Tarot Trial Decks. I've purchased the original deck after "test driving" the reproductions. Many of the decks that I've "test driven" would not have had an original product purchase from me for ($50-$100) without the opportunity to try them first. Also the smaller reproductions are much more portable. if they are lost or stolen from a suitcase they are ez and cheap to replace (though I will call the thief bad names). Thank you for the courage to speak your mind.
I do the same thing! 😊 I buy fake decks to test drive tarot/oracle/lenormand decks before buying the original ones too, because I honestly don't want to waste money buying the originals and be disappointed that they dont work for me, and not to mention how difficult it will be to look for other people who will buy the deck to get my money back somehow
I’m a reader myself. I too buy the fake decks. I buy them to try them first. When I first started reading, I spent so much money on cards that I never used more than a few times because the art didn’t work for me intuitively. I will invest in the deck that works for me.
I love your advise. Fake decks are perfect for choosing if the particular deck speak to me intuitively to buy the real deal. I have made the mistake of just buying the real decks and found a few that it doesn’t work for me. Like you said at the end ****. 😂. You have certainly earn my subscription. Thanks for sharing this valuable information which I haven’t learned of until now.
I can totally relate with your experience 😊 I too buy fake decks to test drive tarot/oracle/lenormand decks before buying the original ones too, because I honestly don't want to waste money buying the originals and be disappointed that they dont work for me, and not to mention how difficult it will be to look for other people who will buy the deck to get my money back somehow And then there's the crap that other people say in the community that "Fake decks affect one's readings in a highly negative way", and I was like " How? They're both just paper"
Valid points. I appreciate your honest approach. I find most sizes in real decks cumbersome. Many real decks are printed in China. I bought two fakes accidentally, second hand through an app, and as you said, it helped me decide I didn't want to spend my money on the real cards. It may sound unfair but I do buy real decks so I think it is ok to keep and love my fakes, I use them very rarely. Blessings to you! 😁
I am - right now - glued to the real ones but then I end up buying a fake one because I don’t want to see damage on the real ones. But if I want to see a real one is actually worth 25-65 euro I just go check the deck on Alie: also for the reviews from others that show a lot of the cards. Please enjoy your fake ones without guilt! 👍🏻🤗
Why do you use rarely?? Don't let people guilt trip you because you know what?? The ones right under THIS video screaming the loudest about don't buy fake cards!! Probably have more knock off decks then all of us combined!! I don't like calling them fake. They're NOT fake!! Some of my best and most accurate readings have been with knock off decks!
The mindset and ethical principles of the reader matter the same as how they read the cards. "I save a lot of money because of buying fake decks and not WASTING money on the real deal" ... That's called a lack of integrity and ignorance. If something doesn't have value to you, just don't buy it and buy something else affordable from someone who doesn't exploit other people's work.
You don’t have to justify why you buy anything. It’s easy for some of these people have enough to buy the real thing. It’s easy to be horrified or take the high ground when you don’t have to worry as much about money. So yeah, it’s easy to tell you that you can do with less. They don’t go without. Y’all stop judging her. If you really feel strongly, you can get into politics deal with our country’s business practices. Stop going after the people little guy. Shaming someone is wrong.
I love this! I do the same with Et5y I buy the pocket decks. I have very petite hands and I'm also a newbie still learning. So I have zero guilt writing keywords w/ultra fine tip permanent or paint markers on a knock off. If I love it then I will invest in the real deal when the original creator makes a pocket size.
I agree with you. I don’t think it harms the artist because some of these decks cost €100 and I am never going to pay that much even if counterfeits are not available. I also see the cards as “samples” or “trial products.” If I like them, then I can consider purchasing the higher quality originals. Like I have Santa Muerte Tarot by Lo Scarabeo and while I love some of the cards, others I can’t interpret no matter how many times I read the book. I don’t get along with almost all of the pentacles and the 10s in the suits are just butterflies. Also, I cannot shuffle these cards: they are too large and stiff. They are not very expensive but for the same price, I could have bought 4 counterfeit decks and seen which artwork worked the best for me. Currently, I am interested in tarot of the abyss but it is safer to buy a €4 deck for a trial run rather than commit to a €30 purchase
I love these cheap decks. I can’t help it and I am not ashamed of it either. If I wouldn’t have found all these I wouldn’t have gotten into tarot in the first place 👍🏻🤗
Hi thanks for your reviews and opinions of these copy decks. I do prefer the originals where possible, but the cost can be a bit much. The originals do have a nice magic to them I must admit but these copies do a different job. They might not give the creators any revenue back but what they do is they promote the decks in a different way. Many people would not make themselves familiar with many original decks because of cost but the copies give a broader audience to the decks and perhaps many will like the copies and go ahead and buy an original deck. This is the world we live in so we can't stop copy decks, but we can find a positive for using them.
This is amazing!!! I have a friend that lives in a 3rd world country, and he was always complaining that tarot would wind up way too expensive for him after you did all the money conversion. Welp, not anymore! Now he has access to multiple tarot’s for cheap! This is such an excellent thing! I was completely unaware of this! Thank you!!!
All I can say is: Go for it. They are easy to carry around in your pocket. Easy to handle. It never happened to me but a little bit of advise: If you buy on AlieExpress and there is something wrong with your chosen item or they sent you the wrong deck - FILE a dispute and you will get your money back. That also means you will end up with a free deck. Or almost free. Lets say you payed 4.30 for a deck and its faulted: ask for 4 euro’s back (do an unpacking on video so you have proof) and in about a week the 4 euro is back on your account. And with that money back you can buy a second deck. I will do a video about this as soon as I can. 👍🏻🤗🤗🤗
If you or your friend needs help finding the online guide book I'm the expert 😀 Like the Occult Tarot and Angel Tarot from Travis McHenry that are so popular, a simple Google search brings up the guide book Travis done a video because people were complaining they couldn't find the guide book. He said they can't find it because it doesn't exist. Umm wanna bet?? I called him out for lying and he didn't even deny it
I am from a third world country, one of the highest hiperinflation in the world, and I can tell you that fake decks are so expensive. For me there is not excuse to Buy a fake one, a Lot of people worked a Lot on the tarot decks. If You cannot Buy an original because the price, so don't Buy it or wait to have the money. Here an original is a little bit expensive than a fake one. There is no excuse to steal somebody else's work..
@@neilgoloy3582 Exactly!!! Big and sturdy/thick and often the cards stick to eachother especially when they are glossy. Also how are you going to carry a deck around in your pocket when traveling? Then you need to buy a pouch which will deffinately damage the edges and the whole point of the big box they came in was to protect the cards from getting scratched and damaged. None of it makes sence to me 🤪
@@tierraprincessofwands Yes, so many disadvantages of a large deck. I once thought of buying a large deck, but now I just want a small one. I have learnt something new again from your video. Thanks, Carrie! :-)
@@neilgoloy3582 Hahaha okay! Sorry for ranting. And seriously: Everybody complains about the AlieExpress decks but I think it’s just about spreading popular mundain spiritual correct ideas about what to do and what not to do without using common sence…
Currently there is a deck on etsy that I want but in the states its 21$ and converted to Canadian in my province it would be 56$ and some odd cents then add a 20$ shipping fee and add a duty fee , that can be pretty pricey really quick... People should understand that not everyone is willing to blow 100$ on what would be a 20$ deck in another country.... I like fakes cause then it helps me decide if I truly want the real one or if its just FOMO....
You already know I LOVE Knock Off decks!! I have this deck in the Knock Off. There's NO reason to have the original. It flat out svcks!! A freaking Lo Scarabeo!! There's so much info could have been included and so much could have been done. If it's a deck I really love. Most times I want the original just to have and keep and the knock off to use. I, too, love the smaller cards. I have small hands and short fingers so I usually have a difficult time with the bigger cards. Yes the images are usually duller. The knock off usually does Mimic the original though. Card stock and all. Of course it's cheaper made. And yes I like the price. Tarot Cards can be used in spells and curses and other Rituals. I'm not paying $25 + just to destroy some nice guilded cards in a curse unless I feel like I need the original. Spirit will let me know The Vlad Dracula deck is perfect for dark work. Curses and Hexes. Yes they're different to me. But it doesn't come in a knock off and it probably never will because of how detailed the images are. The cards are really nice. Guilded. Love this deck. I don't like using it because I paid my money and it's so nice!! Just like the Occult Tarot and the Angel Tarot. The original decks are really nice. Even though you don't like the guide book for the Occult lol. Yes I have 3 decks each of the knock off YES!! Knock off decks have the guide book. It's just online. The seller makes it sound like you can scan the code and the book for that deck will come straight up. No. It doesn't work that way. There's one or two of mine that did. But it brings up a website. Go to the website and search. You can also just do a Google search. Like I searched for The Occult Tarot Travis McHenry online guide book PDF. And it was the first result. Same for the Angel. You can also ask the seller to email you the guide book and they usually will. But there's a language barrier so you may get a different one lol Last time I asked them to email me a guide book they sent the wrong one but it was one I was needing anyway lol That's another thing. Some codes on boxes bring up guide books for other decks. You just have to mix match and search. But it's there. NO. I don't believe I'm going to get false readings, or that I'm opening myself up to negative energy As far as money going to the creator. That doesn't have anything to do with me. Nothing at all. Because as I said, if it's a deck I really want I will try to find it in the knock off and the original. I love having cards. Collecting cards. I love reading with the smaller size cards This deck Heaven & Earth. I don't have any won't have the original because I'm not paying for it. I'm very disappointed in the guide book. It had SOOOOO much potential and due to laziness and cutting production costs, the guide book is complete crap. Lo Scarabeo has some of the best decks with NO guide book. I mean if you mess with cards even a little bit you know Lo Scarabeo is a joke when it comes to the guide book Yes I have the guide book to this deck. I downloaded it 😀
The bought “the Field” tarot last week: fake. I already had the “real” one but I am not using that one as much as I would like. No problems with the fake one lol And the Occult tarot and Angel tarot grew on me. When I ordered the real ones both decks were 11 euro on Amazon - now only the occult tarot: I just checked. I am using the fake ones in curses and I agree with you. Burning or burying a real card doesn’t make the the working better - or worse. Might as well grow a pile of fake decks with specific purposes. No shame! Enjoy your decks wherever you get them ❤️
aliexpress sell deck for 4-10$ only ! it good to try and if people cannot connect with the fake one they can try splurge in the real one if they really like the imagery !
It's true. There are decks that I thought I am going to love them. So I bought the fake first. Then I realized that I don't connect with them or I don't use them that much. But when I do connect (like Light's Seer) I buy the original (actually second hand 😅)
Yeah but when you « support » counterfeit the authors loose money … but everyone has jus own integrity and valors and is free. No it’s not “karma” … it’s more about everyone “valors and integrity” that it’s subjective from one and Another, it’s a choice.
I understand.. but I also know paying full price, then take the deck out of the box and experience hughe disappointment looking at the real deck is aweful. This way I can make sure I do like or don’t like a deck, work with it and based on that buy the real one 🤗👍🏻
I agree with you. I wasn't happy i got a fake deck for 31$ and got tricked on where i got it. I brought the green witch tarot deck and I bought a real set of it.i gotta say on the fake ones the card stock quality is better then the legit ones. Plus the fake one is small and compact enough to fit in my purse if i want to take it for traveling. So i don't have to worry about it taking a large card deck with me and take up my space . I don't live in Europe but i still connect with my fake deck and I found it easier to shuffle with the fake decks. Because i got small hands. I respect your decision and opinion.
I have found that many decks listed on some of the largest sites are "fake." And you really have to know what you are buying, because they will charge a high price even on these. If I know that all of the decks are fake, based on price and availability, I go for the cheapest. Also, sometimes a "fake" is the only way to get an OOP deck
I love the knock off version of Heaven and Earth tarot too! I own one and they are more practical, easy to handle, easy to bring and hold. Even the quality are not so bad either. I use it every single day for my energy reading. Price are way better and it’s much more convenient. I totally agree with u 😊
Nope. Sorry. Can't even finish the video. Personally I can't find one valid reason, for myself anyways, to support art theft. Too each their own I suppose. To the people saying it doesn't hurt indie creators....what planet do you live on? Can you even imagine, taking the time, effort, and skill to put together 78 pieces of art into a tarot deck.....just to have some jackass photo copy it in 10 minutes and sell it for their own profit?....and to have people be ok with that and say "well you should charge less".....mind-blowing mentality honestly. The artists TIME is worth whatever they choose to sell it for. Also, how about people look into the cost of actually having a quality deck printed and then ask about high prices. 🙄
A number of fakes are by Indie creators making all your statements wrong. Yeah some are mass market but many are not. Maybe you won’t get bad karma, but as an Indie creator I put out curses for anyone who makes or buys a fake of mine. I’d bet some other creators are this smart too
Most of my tarot decks are the fake one. Like you, it's the way to learn about the deck first before buying the real deal. I have to admit some of them are really good like Luna Lapin, Lightseer's, Shadowscapes. The best print I found is in size 12cm, not the smaller 10cm. But also there are some that I consider as failure, like Sambucus Tarot or Muse Tarot. Sometimes I also find the cut is not precise, but so what? I also have an original oracle that face the same problem.
My daughter bought the Manga deck that has the redhead lady on the front that you have there. However, it was purchased at a metaphysical shop here in town. The box was large and it came with a book. Just looking at the box, I think the book is about 8 inches by 5 inches.
Both manga decks are cool but because I am not a hughe fan of reading lol I think I will buy the green deck. I turned into a Scarabeo addict I think… lol but what does your daughter think about the other one? Is she working with it and happy with the results?
@@75ginnyable Ha! My youngest is 16 too! I am thinking about buying a deck for her. She loves to go through my cards but I haven’t picked up on what she loves the most so I am not sure yet. What’s your favourite deck? Hope that’s okay to ask 🤗👍🏻
@@tierraprincessofwands Ive only used Russian Tarot of St Petersburg deck I got in '97 and I had a Fairy oracle deck gifted to me a few years ago. Ive only used it a few times. Loved the Russian one though! I gifted it to my daughter when she bought me the Z Tarot ;)
@@tierraprincessofwands I figured since the Russian deck was so old that I probably wouldnt find it online but I did lol decent prices too! They are a bit long but my deck wasnt any wider than a basic deck of playing cards. Each card is just as thin too. Very easy to shuffle them ;)
Sometimes the quality of the cards is inferior to the original. The worst problem I have seen is when the colors are muddy and the images are blurred. I have occasionally bought a counterfeit deck not realizing that it was not the original. I really upsets me when that happens and I will then buy the real thing from the author or publisher.
Fake and fake. . I would call it a copy. 🙂. I have started to buy copies of Oracle cards for 3 reasons. One they are smaller 2. They last longer before they start to chip at the bottom. Which the originals does. 3rd is they are cheaper. I started with an oracle that is not in print anymore. Most of my decks are originals. But from now after the copy i bought. I will buy copies again IF there should be a deck I want. I feel for the creater of the decks. But we pay a lot for bad cards. My fav devk id Universal Rider waite and aradiant Rider waite. Thanks for the video.
Oh hey! I saw you hold up Z Tarot ;) I recently got that one. Zombies ;) it was a big box and a crazy thick deck. Hard to shuffle yeah! The deck box stands up though and the top slides off. I did get a little book with it. I had to go online to find out which symbols were for the pages and knights though. The book didnt explain that. The words are quite small too. Having to split the deck and shuffle a half at a time is a pain... the smaller cheaper decks would be nice for my smaller hands for sure.
@@tierraprincessofwands I don't have a channel... I have thought about making videos but I am feeling like a novice lol So many great channels already. I really dont have anything to add. Ive learned alot from you. Any update on that trance rocking seat you have?
Another perspective is that originals have a lot of fancy packaging that just goes against ecological prudence. Plus all of it is non-biodegradable. Also, there's a lot of "extra stuff" in many boxes to show how "thoughtful" they are. What is this, some school girl scrap book items? I'm all for beauty & aesthetics but not impracticality or even trying to be different & cool. Most of that stuff is piling up of extra junk in the customer's home. & A lot of the white books are pointless too. & Often I just want the major arcana of a particular deck or just the minor arcana. But gotta buy the full deck which is again unused extra printed cards. Card makers should also have the option to buy either of the 2 or the whole deck.
Fake people use fake decks. You must have brought dodgy dvds from the Chinese guys from his bag and anything else pirated. Tarot is a spiritual learning and shouldn't be tarnished by cards produced by stealing someone else's hard work. Very bad karma and bad luck will follow.
No no no NO don't you call them Fake!! LOL How dare you make fun of me? LOL Fake cards? They are NOT fake, they are in your hand, and mine!! 😀 If Travis McHenry doesn't kill me LOL I'm thinking I need to do protection. He was doing a video on his Occult Tarot cards, which btw I LOVE!!! I LOVE the "real" cards, the red sides of the cards, the big black and red guidebook, I love it I love it I love it!! BUT I also LOVE my Knock Off Deck!! What I do NOT love!! Is a Liar! In fact, I absolutely HATE a liar!! Travis is a smart man! I know he knew better!! He was saying that people would email him, or contact him however they do I guess, and complain that the QR code on the "fake deck" AKA Knock off Deck doesn't work. He said that does not surprise him as the PDF book does not exist, it never has, it never will. LOL Oh YES it does!!! Now I know I am on Team Knock Off when I order these cards. I have went absolutely crazy and I have like over a hundred decks on the way plus what I already have LOL anyway, uh hum, People think they can scan the QR code and like Magic, up comes the book. Well No, It does NOT work that way!! First off, unless your phone or Tablet, has the memory of a big computer, it is NOT gonna download. It will say not enough room. So, if you look at the bottom of the box and the top of the address bar on your phone when you scan it, there is a web site. Go to that website on a computer, or something with enough memory. Which is tarotcards.top Type that in and it brings up 3 pages of PDF Guidebooks for Knock Off Cards. Now there are some I have had to Google for the guidebook and do a little more investigative work. If you want to be able to have the book on your phone, or with you during readings, Rituals etc. Of course you can always print it, or just print certain parts. And you can email the PDF file to yourself and open it through your email on your phone. At least that is what works for me. So I Called him (Travis McHenry ) out and said yes this book absolutely does exist in PDF version and if anybody needs help finding it just let me know. Now even tho I have the Knock off Occult Deck AKA Demons, and I have my friend a Knock off Deck ordered, and I ordered me and her knock off deck of his Angel cards, Those are the main 2, that I STILL want the Original ones so bad. I have been down bad sick and havent worked in 4 months. So they are gonna have to wait a probably another month or so. But I personally LOVE these Knock off cards. I do get a little "uhhh Miffed off I guess LOL Not Pi$$ed off or mad, just Miffed lol When somebody calls them fake. I'm like Hold up! The majority of my collection is and will remain these knock off cards. They are very real, and oh YES they do work just like the original ones do!! One other thing Travis McHenry said, well maybe if you have small tiny hands you might like these little cards lol Yep! That's me! I have little hands and short fingers, which the rest of me being short so this makes sense. I'm barely 5ft with shoes on lol I can definitely hold these little cards and shuffle better and just all the way around work better with the smaller ones. Even tho according to most people they are super super small, Well my super super small hands, still Don't go all the way around the smallest part of the deck LOL Anyway, Carry on. Just wanted to throw that out there. LOL and Glad to hear you're a part of Team Knock Off!!! Yay!!!
I payed 4,24 euro for it on AlieExpress. You can do like me: Buy the fake deck there and then decide if it’s worth paying full price for. I think they sell the real one for 20-25 euro 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@MatthewP1991 In some shops you can hold them and look through the cards. In the NL all decks are still wrapped and sealed in plastic and its so hard to get a feel for what the whole deck is like. And they only sell the most popular decks like the Light Seers - one I deffinately don’t feel any connection with :(
@@tierraprincessofwands Oh yes, in my shop it was the same, still wrapped in plastic, I usually feel a little bit of connection with decks based on RW, but if it's too abstract with no symbology it's difficult. I have a deck at home I don't use (it has a picture of 6 wands for example, nothing more nothing less😅 so without memorizing all the meanings I can't read it intuitively)
@@MatthewP1991 Thats exactly one of the reason I turned to fake decks. In shops you are kept blind and the reviews on CZcams give you an idea but half of the fake decks I bought showed I shouldn’t buy them at all 🤪🤨😎
I absolutely hate it because it's a niche market as it is and if we all buy fakes why would artists take the effort still to make new decks if they are getting pirated? I'm just okay with old decks like RWS or Thoth that are no longer trademarked.
Tenho 3 decks que são réplicas e não sabia quando comprei. Mas realmente são muito práticos no seu manuseamento. Tenho alguns decks originais que não uso pois têm um tamanho absurdo que nem cabem nas mãos e custaram bastante caro até porque maior parte eu comprava logo após lançamento no mercado.Tem esse lado,por vezes até nos conectamos com o deck em si mas o manuseamento do mesmo acaba por criar desagrado e uma energia estressante. Por isso acho que os autores têm que começar a pensar em diminuir o tamanho do deck , além que ficará mais barato. Vídeo interessante.
That’s so kind of you! You are always so nice. Even when life is hard for you. We are both okay. He had to work most of he days but it’s from home so he is around lol 🤗🤗🤗🤗
it is also morally bankrupt and criminal to put double taxes on import-products if someone in a second- or third-world country wants to buy something original...wake up
Supporting artistic theft is weird. You blasted Travis McHenry for being a fraud yet you are here promoting fake decks. Some of these are unchanted/unblessed and were made to directly profit. Wdym by not hurting the creator? Artists barely get pennies. They do not get 100% of the money you spend from the deck LOL
Authentic or replica cards doesn't matter, it matters is how you read them, how u use them and how are u connected with them. By the end of the day they are all printed in china, both are papers and worn out. The bad thing is the designer doesn't earn money of it. :)
Yes it matters. The mindset and ethical principles of the reader matter the same as how they read the cards. "I save a lot of money because of buying fake decks and not WASTING money on the real deal" ... I would never buy a reading from a person going by principles like that... That's called lack of integrity and ignorance. If something doesn't have value to you, just don't buy it and don't support exploitation...
I would run a mile from a reader with dupes. Imagine fancying yourself a legitimate tarot reader when you have the morals to support the art plagiarisers of this world, robbing money from the creator’s hands and supporting organised crime groups. It sickens me. This video is disgusting.
I am an indie tarot artist and artists who self publish make the art and invest their own money to produce it. They sell the deck in shops and absolutely do make money per deck. They pay their bills with the money and support their families. It is their occupation. Why does society not value artists and their skills. It is very sad.
AGREED 👏 👏 👏 👏
We do value you, and the vast majority of tarot enthusiasts will never buy a fake deck. I want you to know, though, that there are some of us that have very little money, and indie decks are simply out of reach for us. Also, I’m disabled and I can’t handle a deck larger than about playing card size, again putting so many decks out of reach for me. Just food for thought when you design your future decks, to think inclusively. And of course I wish you every success.
It's not that we don't value. It's I'm going to spendy money that I WORKED for the best way it benefits ME. It's not my problem nor my responsibility to support you. It's not my responsibility to pay your bills and feed your family because you want to be a "creator" instead of working a job. If you have something I want or need, then I will buy it. Otherwise I'm under no obligation and neither is anyone else
People get online, everyone is a keyboard warrior! Running their mouths and screaming the loudest about don't buy fake cards. The artists the artists. They're the ones that probably have the most knock off decks
I buy cards because I'm drawn to them. I like the images. I like what the deck is based on. Not once not ever have I ordered a deck because of the artists. In fact, I have about 40 something decks. Most are knock off. I don't like calling them fake. They're not fake. They're very real. I can name the artist of about 2 decks!! That's how much the artists influence me. They don't
People can say anything they want. When it comes down to it we all want what we want for as little money as possible. I love Knock Off decks. I can get 2 sometimes 3 different decks for the price I would pay for ONE original deck. I love collecting Tarot decks.
Yes I mainly use knock off decks and some of my best and most accurate readings have been with knock off decks
We're online. So you can't see my emotions or hear my expression or whatever. So please don't take me the wrong way. I'm not being or trying to be a smart a$$ to you. I'm not trying to say FVCK you I don't care. No. I'm just saying it the way it is. IDC what anyone thinks of me. I never have.
It's not anyone's fault they're buying knock off decks and not yours. They're small. Easy to use. Easy to store. Easy to buy
There's NOT a single shop in my area or any rural area around here that sells Tarot Cards. I have to travel to the city over an hour one way or order online. That applies to a lot of people. We don't exactly know what we want. We just want Tarot Cards. So we go to the site. One being mentioned in this video and we search for Tarot Cards. Then here's all these different decks come up that are very affordable!!
YES!!!! I ant this one and that one and I like that one. 🤷🤷 simple as that. IDK anyone, except for the ones in CZcams videos with $300 manicures trying to show off their FAKE nails but not their face, just THOSE!! That say, OHHHH there's a new Tarot deck by my favorite artist. I just HAVE to find that deck!!!
Nope. And most times they don't even pay for the deck!! They contact the artist or company and ask to be sent the deck for FREE, so they can review it on their CZcams. They want to make a video. Am I making sense??
You said you are an artist. You said you just really truly don't know why people don't feel obligated to hand you their money. That's what I read in your comment. So, from a customer standpoint, I explained it the best way I could.
@darkangel7820 wow...have you heard of plagerism? Indie decks have a copyright. I own the images and artwork I create. Fake decks are theft. They are produced in China so they can not be prosecuted. Stealing is unethical.
Dont be silly. Nothing stops the ~artist~ from finding a printer to then mass produce their decks to profit off each one. Many artists CHOOSE to be art SNOBS and want their work to come off ~exclusive~ and only sell to WEALTHY patrons who can pay $$$$. Poor people deserve access to art too. Artists need to stop their obsession with only working with wealthy buyers.
Supporting fake decks hurts the artists. The money goes to people who steal artists’ works. I also wish some original decks to be more affordable, but it doesn’t make it right to support theft.
Hi. You can blame the publisher for that. The cards are to big. They chip quickly. The price, some are to expensive, particular when they chip after 1 shuffle. ✌🏻🌳
If they were not so greedy and charge so much for original decks, people wouldn't need to buy fake decks. Their greed is their downfall
Selling fake decks is a crime. I'm amazed that people would support criminals rather than artists.
Right??
Agree 100%
Absolutely!
So disheartening to see anyone promote theft and say you’re “wasting your money on buying the real deal.” This is not okay. So much blood, sweat and tears goes into making the art and to produce a quality product. Buy the right size if that’s what you need, but it’s not a good reason to send people toward knock offs.
It is a well-known fact that if someone is buying the $10 deck over the $50 plus deck, they never would have bought the legitimate deck in the first place. There is a trade off that some artists are not aware of... Its a known fact in the book industry that pirated ebooks actually boost their physical book sales buy the old word of mouth marketing. The same can be applied to any artist industry. I have seen many reviews of "fake" decks where, in the comments, people say they love the art and will buy the real deal instead. Some even buy the real deck and then the fake one, so they have the full-size version and a portable version also. Artists, you were never losing sales because people who buy cheap knock-offs were never going to buy the real deal in the first place. Its the sad truth that many refuse out of emotional strife to understand.
I buy a real deck to use at home and a small fake deck to take with me in my handbag.... The real decks are often to big for my hands to handle.
Although I can see possible truth in this statement, it’s absurd to use this as an argument.
“Oh I promoted a fake & someone bought the real one cus of me so it cancels out my shit behavior. “ is your argument??
Although I can see possible truth in this statement, it’s absurd to use this as an argument.
“Oh I promoted a fake & someone bought the real one cus of me so it cancels out my shit behavior. “ is your argument??
I totally understand the price and size thing I really do. I don't believe that they are cursed as such or that they will affect your readings. At the end of the day it is about intention and connection however, the creator in pure heart and mind created these decks for the spiritual benefit of others. the knock offs are there and only care about money that is made. I would compare it to this...if you had some business...art, candle making, some craft like business and someone came along and copied it exactly as yours...ripped you off and sold it for a profit...how would that make you feel? I struggle with the idea of investing in a business that stole of others?
Stealing is Stealing. We need to respect the creators. It does hurt the creator
Absolutely
I prefer the dupes mainly because of the size. The connection I made with some of my dupes were absolutely amazing based off the size alone... lol. I still try, and support the authors as well when my money is right. The creators should be the ones making the cheaper smaller version of their cards. That way they don't give that opportunity to others🤷🏽♀️. I actually think it would increase their sells, and keep their money at home. I've wasted so much money on decks I never connected with.
I love the idea of the artist, making their own baby versions that were of cheaper value for people who can’t afford it and it will definitely help with the fakes because the picture quality would almost definitely be better anyways
Terrible excuse. So many popular decks DO have pocket editions. Research decks in the size you prefer & stop artist theft
I am glad to find this video. The idea that it's bad karma to use fake ones or that it's cursed is the most capitalistic BS I have ever heard. In third world countries they only have fakes most of the time and they make it work. The wailing and whining of the people who hate these just reeks of privilege.
Its a way to scare people I guess. I recently bought the real The Good tarot and the Alie is better: smaller, mat, easy to handle where the real one is big, shiny and glossy and not at all making my readings with it better..
I live in a 3rl world country and I can't get expensives decks, they don't even mostly ship to my country, for this "spiritual" people judging on us for fake 78 papers cards I can't take them seriously.
@@Amalkavs LITERALLY, i just recently got my knoc off cards from Ali express and they're wonderful, i connected with them instantly. Buying them from the original source would cost so much more money that i don't have, and that i won't use for a deck of cards (only if i like it a lot)
You are totally correct! No way I can afford to pay full price for original decks, or even in many cases the prices for second hand originals. Is tarot only for a rich elite? I don't think so!
They’re not “cursed” but it’s bad karma cuz it’s theft.
2 other great reasons for fakes, they help you figure out if a deck is for you. If you like it alot then go buy the real versions. Nothing worse paying £20-40 for a deck to find it sitting in a box collecting dust because its not right for you. The other being that real versions are so big they are hard to carry on the go, espeically if you have multiple decks. Keep the real ones at home, fakes on the god to prevent damaging the good decks
Wow, thank you for a wonderful video! I love to try aliexpress decks to decide if I even want a real one. Too much money wasted on real decks that I never use and it makes me feel down. With ali decks all the joy is very lighhearted. I call ali decks testers or deck samples. It helps me choose mindfully what I really want or not.
I can totally relate with your experience 😊 I too buy fake decks to test drive tarot/oracle/lenormand decks before buying the original ones too, because I honestly don't want to waste money buying the originals and be disappointed that they dont work for me, and not to mention how difficult it will be to look for other people who will buy the deck to get my money back somehow
@@MoonEmpath29 right? I just got a few very popular oracles from ali and no, they don't work for me at all! So glad that I will not spend more money or efforts into purchasing real ones. Saved me from bigger disappointment. On another hand I fell in love with 3 new tarot decks and want to get real ones.
You should “care”…
Artists put so much time & work into creating these decks …
You are PURPOSELY filling the pockets of SCAMMERS & now telling others it’s ok!
ITS NOT OK 🙄🙄🙄
Thanks so much! I have recently purchased 3 knock off decks. One is a copy of a deck that I don't want to lose (and it came in a great tin)! Now I can carry it with me and not worry about losing or "ruining" it. The other 2 are decks that I cannot get shipped to my home country under ANY circumstances... I don't like to rip off creators, but if they are mass producing their own decks, shipping costs at the buyers expense should be a decision the buyer gets to make? Surely? So, sometimes it's our ONLY option. I do prefer to get the original, but sometimes its just not possible.
ONLY option? Be for real. A lot of popular decks have pocket versions. Hay house constantly has decks on sale for $15 or under. Pocket editions were in the last sale they had too. Try again
Never bought a fake deck. I buy used decks to save money. I do believe you make valid points that should be seriously considered by those making decks.
1. Packaging and size. I don’t have space for excessively packaged decks and would prefer to do without. And honestly, with environmental concerns, it would be better IMHO to make minimal packaging. I have had to toss large beautiful boxes as I have no where to store them.
2. I trim cards often as many are too big to work with comfortably.
3. Using these as trial decks sounds awesome actually. Nothing worse than buying a deck, not connecting with it, and being stuck with it. Everyone doesn’t live in an area where stores easily take returns.
What I see is that many people ranting against knock-offs actually do not care about the creator, what they really care about is being able to show off their supposed ‘moral superiority’ by buying the original decks. There was a time when there was not any tarot decks but the Tarot of Marseilles and the Rider Waite, some people didn’t even needed those but plain playing cards and other didn’t even need cards at all… No showing off their fancy boxes or decks, if they bought an original tarot or not… If your product is great people will definitely buy it no matter the price or if there are fake copies or not. It’s like people do not know how the real world works…
Do any of you know that you are giving your money to thieves and gangsters when you buy these decks? How then can you place them on an altar? Shame on you!
Yet, here you are casting judgement and shame on others. Are you really so different or better? Hmmm
100% agree with you. I will use FAKE decks as Tarot Trial Decks. I've purchased the original deck after "test driving" the reproductions. Many of the decks that I've "test driven" would not have had an original product purchase from me for ($50-$100) without the opportunity to try them first. Also the smaller reproductions are much more portable. if they are lost or stolen from a suitcase they are ez and cheap to replace (though I will call the thief bad names). Thank you for the courage to speak your mind.
I do the same thing! 😊 I buy fake decks to test drive tarot/oracle/lenormand decks before buying the original ones too, because I honestly don't want to waste money buying the originals and be disappointed that they dont work for me, and not to mention how difficult it will be to look for other people who will buy the deck to get my money back somehow
Me too!
I’m a reader myself. I too buy the fake decks. I buy them to try them first. When I first started reading, I spent so much money on cards that I never used more than a few times because the art didn’t work for me intuitively. I will invest in the deck that works for me.
TBH the artists must produce and make available the pocket size or sadly knock offs will be bought buy tempted buyers cheap or not.
I love your advise. Fake decks are perfect for choosing if the particular deck speak to me intuitively to buy the real deal. I have made the mistake of just buying the real decks and found a few that it doesn’t work for me. Like you said at the end ****. 😂. You have certainly earn my subscription. Thanks for sharing this valuable information which I haven’t learned of until now.
I can totally relate with your experience 😊 I too buy fake decks to test drive tarot/oracle/lenormand decks before buying the original ones too, because I honestly don't want to waste money buying the originals and be disappointed that they dont work for me, and not to mention how difficult it will be to look for other people who will buy the deck to get my money back somehow
And then there's the crap that other people say in the community that "Fake decks affect one's readings in a highly negative way", and I was like " How? They're both just paper"
Valid points. I appreciate your honest approach. I find most sizes in real decks cumbersome. Many real decks are printed in China. I bought two fakes accidentally, second hand through an app, and as you said, it helped me decide I didn't want to spend my money on the real cards. It may sound unfair but I do buy real decks so I think it is ok to keep and love my fakes, I use them very rarely.
Blessings to you! 😁
I am - right now - glued to the real ones but then I end up buying a fake one because I don’t want to see damage on the real ones. But if I want to see a real one is actually worth 25-65 euro I just go check the deck on Alie: also for the reviews from others that show a lot of the cards.
Please enjoy your fake ones without guilt! 👍🏻🤗
Why do you use rarely?? Don't let people guilt trip you because you know what?? The ones right under THIS video screaming the loudest about don't buy fake cards!! Probably have more knock off decks then all of us combined!! I don't like calling them fake. They're NOT fake!! Some of my best and most accurate readings have been with knock off decks!
The mindset and ethical principles of the reader matter the same as how they read the cards. "I save a lot of money because of buying fake decks and not WASTING money on the real deal" ... That's called a lack of integrity and ignorance. If something doesn't have value to you, just don't buy it and buy something else affordable from someone who doesn't exploit other people's work.
You don’t have to justify why you buy anything. It’s easy for some of these people have enough to buy the real thing. It’s easy to be horrified or take the high ground when you don’t have to worry as much about money. So yeah, it’s easy to tell you that you can do with less. They don’t go without.
Y’all stop judging her. If you really feel strongly, you can get into politics deal with our country’s business practices. Stop going after the people little guy. Shaming someone is wrong.
I love this! I do the same with Et5y I buy the pocket decks. I have very petite hands and I'm also a newbie still learning. So I have zero guilt writing keywords w/ultra fine tip permanent or paint markers on a knock off. If I love it then I will invest in the real deal when the original creator makes a pocket size.
I agree with you. I don’t think it harms the artist because some of these decks cost €100 and I am never going to pay that much even if counterfeits are not available. I also see the cards as “samples” or “trial products.” If I like them, then I can consider purchasing the higher quality originals. Like I have Santa Muerte Tarot by Lo Scarabeo and while I love some of the cards, others I can’t interpret no matter how many times I read the book. I don’t get along with almost all of the pentacles and the 10s in the suits are just butterflies. Also, I cannot shuffle these cards: they are too large and stiff. They are not very expensive but for the same price, I could have bought 4 counterfeit decks and seen which artwork worked the best for me. Currently, I am interested in tarot of the abyss but it is safer to buy a €4 deck for a trial run rather than commit to a €30 purchase
...."I don't think it harms the artist".......wow...smh. Mind-blowing mentality.
Thanks for opinion..honestly fake tarot are best choice for us who broke
I love these cheap decks. I can’t help it and I am not ashamed of it either. If I wouldn’t have found all these I wouldn’t have gotten into tarot in the first place 👍🏻🤗
for being "spiritual" people they judge us way too hard for 78 little papers.
Hi thanks for your reviews and opinions of these copy decks. I do prefer the originals where possible, but the cost can be a bit much. The originals do have a nice magic to them I must admit but these copies do a different job. They might not give the creators any revenue back but what they do is they promote the decks in a different way. Many people would not make themselves familiar with many original decks because of cost but the copies give a broader audience to the decks and perhaps many will like the copies and go ahead and buy an original deck. This is the world we live in so we can't stop copy decks, but we can find a positive for using them.
This is amazing!!! I have a friend that lives in a 3rd world country, and he was always complaining that tarot would wind up way too expensive for him after you did all the money conversion. Welp, not anymore! Now he has access to multiple tarot’s for cheap! This is such an excellent thing! I was completely unaware of this! Thank you!!!
All I can say is: Go for it. They are easy to carry around in your pocket. Easy to handle. It never happened to me but a little bit of advise: If you buy on AlieExpress and there is something wrong with your chosen item or they sent you the wrong deck - FILE a dispute and you will get your money back. That also means you will end up with a free deck. Or almost free. Lets say you payed 4.30 for a deck and its faulted: ask for 4 euro’s back (do an unpacking on video so you have proof) and in about a week the 4 euro is back on your account. And with that money back you can buy a second deck. I will do a video about this as soon as I can. 👍🏻🤗🤗🤗
@@tierraprincessofwands thank you!! 😊
If you or your friend needs help finding the online guide book I'm the expert 😀
Like the Occult Tarot and Angel Tarot from Travis McHenry that are so popular, a simple Google search brings up the guide book
Travis done a video because people were complaining they couldn't find the guide book. He said they can't find it because it doesn't exist. Umm wanna bet?? I called him out for lying and he didn't even deny it
Yes, by stealing people’s work. Living in a third world country is no excuse.
I am from a third world country, one of the highest hiperinflation in the world, and I can tell you that fake decks are so expensive. For me there is not excuse to Buy a fake one, a Lot of people worked a Lot on the tarot decks. If You cannot Buy an original because the price, so don't Buy it or wait to have the money. Here an original is a little bit expensive than a fake one. There is no excuse to steal somebody else's work..
Hi Carrie! It seems like the small decks are more practical in terms of shuffling. Enjoyed listening to your topic. :-)
I have small hands… and the real deal big cards are so hard to handle 🤨
@@tierraprincessofwands I wonder why they make cards that big, doesn't seem practical.
@@neilgoloy3582 Exactly!!!
Big and sturdy/thick and often the cards stick to eachother especially when they are glossy. Also how are you going to carry a deck around in your pocket when traveling? Then you need to buy a pouch which will deffinately damage the edges and the whole point of the big box they came in was to protect the cards from getting scratched and damaged. None of it makes sence to me 🤪
@@tierraprincessofwands Yes, so many disadvantages of a large deck. I once thought of buying a large deck, but now I just want a small one. I have learnt something new again from your video. Thanks, Carrie! :-)
@@neilgoloy3582 Hahaha okay! Sorry for ranting. And seriously: Everybody complains about the AlieExpress decks but I think it’s just about spreading popular mundain spiritual correct ideas about what to do and what not to do without using common sence…
Currently there is a deck on etsy that I want but in the states its 21$ and converted to Canadian in my province it would be 56$ and some odd cents then add a 20$ shipping fee and add a duty fee , that can be pretty pricey really quick... People should understand that not everyone is willing to blow 100$ on what would be a 20$ deck in another country....
I like fakes cause then it helps me decide if I truly want the real one or if its just FOMO....
You already know I LOVE Knock Off decks!!
I have this deck in the Knock Off. There's NO reason to have the original. It flat out svcks!! A freaking Lo Scarabeo!! There's so much info could have been included and so much could have been done.
If it's a deck I really love. Most times I want the original just to have and keep and the knock off to use.
I, too, love the smaller cards. I have small hands and short fingers so I usually have a difficult time with the bigger cards. Yes the images are usually duller. The knock off usually does Mimic the original though. Card stock and all. Of course it's cheaper made. And yes I like the price.
Tarot Cards can be used in spells and curses and other Rituals. I'm not paying $25 + just to destroy some nice guilded cards in a curse unless I feel like I need the original. Spirit will let me know
The Vlad Dracula deck is perfect for dark work. Curses and Hexes. Yes they're different to me. But it doesn't come in a knock off and it probably never will because of how detailed the images are. The cards are really nice. Guilded. Love this deck. I don't like using it because I paid my money and it's so nice!! Just like the Occult Tarot and the Angel Tarot. The original decks are really nice. Even though you don't like the guide book for the Occult lol. Yes I have 3 decks each of the knock off
YES!! Knock off decks have the guide book. It's just online. The seller makes it sound like you can scan the code and the book for that deck will come straight up. No. It doesn't work that way. There's one or two of mine that did. But it brings up a website. Go to the website and search. You can also just do a Google search. Like I searched for The Occult Tarot Travis McHenry online guide book PDF. And it was the first result. Same for the Angel. You can also ask the seller to email you the guide book and they usually will. But there's a language barrier so you may get a different one lol
Last time I asked them to email me a guide book they sent the wrong one but it was one I was needing anyway lol
That's another thing. Some codes on boxes bring up guide books for other decks. You just have to mix match and search. But it's there.
NO. I don't believe I'm going to get false readings, or that I'm opening myself up to negative energy
As far as money going to the creator. That doesn't have anything to do with me. Nothing at all. Because as I said, if it's a deck I really want I will try to find it in the knock off and the original. I love having cards. Collecting cards. I love reading with the smaller size cards
This deck Heaven & Earth. I don't have any won't have the original because I'm not paying for it. I'm very disappointed in the guide book. It had SOOOOO much potential and due to laziness and cutting production costs, the guide book is complete crap. Lo Scarabeo has some of the best decks with NO guide book. I mean if you mess with cards even a little bit you know Lo Scarabeo is a joke when it comes to the guide book
Yes I have the guide book to this deck. I downloaded it 😀
The bought “the Field” tarot last week: fake. I already had the “real” one but I am not using that one as much as I would like. No problems with the fake one lol
And the Occult tarot and Angel tarot grew on me. When I ordered the real ones both decks were 11 euro on Amazon - now only the occult tarot: I just checked. I am using the fake ones in curses and I agree with you. Burning or burying a real card doesn’t make the the working better - or worse. Might as well grow a pile of fake decks with specific purposes.
No shame! Enjoy your decks wherever you get them ❤️
aliexpress sell deck for 4-10$ only ! it good to try and if people cannot connect with the fake one they can try splurge in the real one if they really like the imagery !
Exactly! Its perfectly fine as trie-outs 🤗❤️
It's true. There are decks that I thought I am going to love them. So I bought the fake first. Then I realized that I don't connect with them or I don't use them that much. But when I do connect (like Light's Seer) I buy the original (actually second hand 😅)
Carrie I purchased fake standard playing cards when I dont have money. I started with divination with fake standard playing cards.
That’s what I call TALENT 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@tierraprincessofwands Thank u a lot, dear Carrie. I Huuug uuuu
Yeah but when you « support » counterfeit the authors loose money … but everyone has jus own integrity and valors and is free.
No it’s not “karma” … it’s more about everyone “valors and integrity” that it’s subjective from one and Another, it’s a choice.
I understand.. but I also know paying full price, then take the deck out of the box and experience hughe disappointment looking at the real deck is aweful. This way I can make sure I do like or don’t like a deck, work with it and based on that buy the real one 🤗👍🏻
@@melissagerber7231 That does help but in doubt not helpful enough.
I live in 3rd world country and I buy cheap decks, that does not make me a criminal or a person of less valors of inegrity, that's BS.
I agree with you. I wasn't happy i got a fake deck for 31$ and got tricked on where i got it. I brought the green witch tarot deck and I bought a real set of it.i gotta say on the fake ones the card stock quality is better then the legit ones. Plus the fake one is small and compact enough to fit in my purse if i want to take it for traveling. So i don't have to worry about it taking a large card deck with me and take up my space . I don't live in Europe but i still connect with my fake deck and I found it easier to shuffle with the fake decks. Because i got small hands. I respect your decision and opinion.
I have found that many decks listed on some of the largest sites are "fake." And you really have to know what you are buying, because they will charge a high price even on these. If I know that all of the decks are fake, based on price and availability, I go for the cheapest. Also, sometimes a "fake" is the only way to get an OOP deck
I love the knock off version of Heaven and Earth tarot too! I own one and they are more practical, easy to handle, easy to bring and hold. Even the quality are not so bad either. I use it every single day for my energy reading. Price are way better and it’s much more convenient. I totally agree with u 😊
Nope. Sorry. Can't even finish the video. Personally I can't find one valid reason, for myself anyways, to support art theft. Too each their own I suppose.
To the people saying it doesn't hurt indie creators....what planet do you live on? Can you even imagine, taking the time, effort, and skill to put together 78 pieces of art into a tarot deck.....just to have some jackass photo copy it in 10 minutes and sell it for their own profit?....and to have people be ok with that and say "well you should charge less".....mind-blowing mentality honestly. The artists TIME is worth whatever they choose to sell it for. Also, how about people look into the cost of actually having a quality deck printed and then ask about high prices. 🙄
This is a great way to check out a deck before investing in the expensive authentic decks
Exactly 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I think people forget that it’s just a tool to connect
I think ppl forget how much time money & work it takes for these artists to create beautiful ART
they are just too intense, like they not buying paper too. lol
I think creators are not doing decks for people who used them, just to be pretty and being in the shelf. So, thanks for this video.
A number of fakes are by Indie creators making all your statements wrong. Yeah some are mass market but many are not. Maybe you won’t get bad karma, but as an Indie creator I put out curses for anyone who makes or buys a fake of mine. I’d bet some other creators are this smart too
@@radar4536 good luck with that. In this world, you really don't want anyone wishing you ill.
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US games will replace a card free.... I've had to order lost or crumpled card replacement so it makes it nice!
Lo Scarabeo did that for me when the Fool card in the Tarot Illuminati arrived with tears and cracks. Its a nice thing when they just do that.
Most of my tarot decks are the fake one. Like you, it's the way to learn about the deck first before buying the real deal. I have to admit some of them are really good like Luna Lapin, Lightseer's, Shadowscapes. The best print I found is in size 12cm, not the smaller 10cm. But also there are some that I consider as failure, like Sambucus Tarot or Muse Tarot. Sometimes I also find the cut is not precise, but so what? I also have an original oracle that face the same problem.
I saw some nice ones in tins yesterday. I didn’t buy them but they looked super cute 😬
nothing wrong with that, keep doing it if it works for you! I do the same :)
My daughter bought the Manga deck that has the redhead lady on the front that you have there. However, it was purchased at a metaphysical shop here in town. The box was large and it came with a book. Just looking at the box, I think the book is about 8 inches by 5 inches.
Both manga decks are cool but because I am not a hughe fan of reading lol I think I will buy the green deck. I turned into a Scarabeo addict I think… lol but what does your daughter think about the other one? Is she working with it and happy with the results?
@@tierraprincessofwands I believe so :) She's just begun to learn the Tarot. Shes 16 and very into new experiences :)
@@75ginnyable Ha! My youngest is 16 too! I am thinking about buying a deck for her. She loves to go through my cards but I haven’t picked up on what she loves the most so I am not sure yet. What’s your favourite deck? Hope that’s okay to ask 🤗👍🏻
@@tierraprincessofwands Ive only used Russian Tarot of St Petersburg deck I got in '97 and I had a Fairy oracle deck gifted to me a few years ago. Ive only used it a few times. Loved the Russian one though! I gifted it to my daughter when she bought me the Z Tarot ;)
@@tierraprincessofwands I figured since the Russian deck was so old that I probably wouldnt find it online but I did lol decent prices too! They are a bit long but my deck wasnt any wider than a basic deck of playing cards. Each card is just as thin too. Very easy to shuffle them ;)
Is the quality of the cards bad?
Not at all
Sometimes the quality of the cards is inferior to the original. The worst problem I have seen is when the colors are muddy and the images are blurred. I have occasionally bought a counterfeit deck not realizing that it was not the original. I really upsets me when that happens and I will then buy the real thing from the author or publisher.
❤bedankt voor dit filmpje!
Fake and fake. . I would call it a copy. 🙂. I have started to buy copies of Oracle cards for 3 reasons. One they are smaller 2. They last longer before they start to chip at the bottom. Which the originals does. 3rd is they are cheaper. I started with an oracle that is not in print anymore. Most of my decks are originals. But from now after the copy i bought. I will buy copies again IF there should be a deck I want. I feel for the creater of the decks. But we pay a lot for bad cards. My fav devk id Universal Rider waite and aradiant Rider waite. Thanks for the video.
Oh hey! I saw you hold up Z Tarot ;) I recently got that one. Zombies ;) it was a big box and a crazy thick deck. Hard to shuffle yeah! The deck box stands up though and the top slides off. I did get a little book with it. I had to go online to find out which symbols were for the pages and knights though. The book didnt explain that. The words are quite small too.
Having to split the deck and shuffle a half at a time is a pain... the smaller cheaper decks would be nice for my smaller hands for sure.
I am thinking about buying the real Z - I will keep your ideas in mind. And watch some more reviews. Do you have a CZcams channel?
@@tierraprincessofwands I don't have a channel...
I have thought about making videos but I am feeling like a novice lol So many great channels already. I really dont have anything to add.
Ive learned alot from you.
Any update on that trance rocking seat you have?
Another perspective is that originals have a lot of fancy packaging that just goes against ecological prudence. Plus all of it is non-biodegradable. Also, there's a lot of "extra stuff" in many boxes to show how "thoughtful" they are. What is this, some school girl scrap book items? I'm all for beauty & aesthetics but not impracticality or even trying to be different & cool. Most of that stuff is piling up of extra junk in the customer's home. & A lot of the white books are pointless too.
& Often I just want the major arcana of a particular deck or just the minor arcana. But gotta buy the full deck which is again unused extra printed cards. Card makers should also have the option to buy either of the 2 or the whole deck.
Fake people use fake decks. You must have brought dodgy dvds from the Chinese guys from his bag and anything else pirated.
Tarot is a spiritual learning and shouldn't be tarnished by cards produced by stealing someone else's hard work. Very bad karma and bad luck will follow.
But judgement and name calling is ok and super DUPER spiritual practice. Carry on.
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Fake is fake and it's stealing and that's that. You may as well counterfeit money also.
You're missing the entire point of my previous comment. But, as you were. Bless!
No no no NO don't you call them Fake!! LOL How dare you make fun of me? LOL Fake cards? They are NOT fake, they are in your hand, and mine!! 😀 If Travis McHenry doesn't kill me LOL I'm thinking I need to do protection. He was doing a video on his Occult Tarot cards, which btw I LOVE!!! I LOVE the "real" cards, the red sides of the cards, the big black and red guidebook, I love it I love it I love it!! BUT I also LOVE my Knock Off Deck!! What I do NOT love!! Is a Liar! In fact, I absolutely HATE a liar!! Travis is a smart man! I know he knew better!! He was saying that people would email him, or contact him however they do I guess, and complain that the QR code on the "fake deck" AKA Knock off Deck doesn't work. He said that does not surprise him as the PDF book does not exist, it never has, it never will. LOL Oh YES it does!!! Now I know I am on Team Knock Off when I order these cards. I have went absolutely crazy and I have like over a hundred decks on the way plus what I already have LOL anyway, uh hum, People think they can scan the QR code and like Magic, up comes the book. Well No, It does NOT work that way!! First off, unless your phone or Tablet, has the memory of a big computer, it is NOT gonna download. It will say not enough room. So, if you look at the bottom of the box and the top of the address bar on your phone when you scan it, there is a web site. Go to that website on a computer, or something with enough memory. Which is tarotcards.top Type that in and it brings up 3 pages of PDF Guidebooks for Knock Off Cards. Now there are some I have had to Google for the guidebook and do a little more investigative work. If you want to be able to have the book on your phone, or with you during readings, Rituals etc. Of course you can always print it, or just print certain parts. And you can email the PDF file to yourself and open it through your email on your phone. At least that is what works for me. So I Called him (Travis McHenry ) out and said yes this book absolutely does exist in PDF version and if anybody needs help finding it just let me know. Now even tho I have the Knock off Occult Deck AKA Demons, and I have my friend a Knock off Deck ordered, and I ordered me and her knock off deck of his Angel cards, Those are the main 2, that I STILL want the Original ones so bad. I have been down bad sick and havent worked in 4 months. So they are gonna have to wait a probably another month or so. But I personally LOVE these Knock off cards. I do get a little "uhhh Miffed off I guess LOL Not Pi$$ed off or mad, just Miffed lol When somebody calls them fake. I'm like Hold up! The majority of my collection is and will remain these knock off cards. They are very real, and oh YES they do work just like the original ones do!! One other thing Travis McHenry said, well maybe if you have small tiny hands you might like these little cards lol Yep! That's me! I have little hands and short fingers, which the rest of me being short so this makes sense. I'm barely 5ft with shoes on lol I can definitely hold these little cards and shuffle better and just all the way around work better with the smaller ones. Even tho according to most people they are super super small, Well my super super small hands, still Don't go all the way around the smallest part of the deck LOL Anyway, Carry on. Just wanted to throw that out there. LOL and Glad to hear you're a part of Team Knock Off!!! Yay!!!
I saw the new vision recently in crystal shop, very interesting idea :) all the best Carrie💗
I payed 4,24 euro for it on AlieExpress. You can do like me: Buy the fake deck there and then decide if it’s worth paying full price for. I think they sell the real one for 20-25 euro 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@tierraprincessofwands that's very very good! The shop had it for almost 30, good idea :)
@@MatthewP1991 In some shops you can hold them and look through the cards. In the NL all decks are still wrapped and sealed in plastic and its so hard to get a feel for what the whole deck is like. And they only sell the most popular decks like the Light Seers - one I deffinately don’t feel any connection with :(
@@tierraprincessofwands Oh yes, in my shop it was the same, still wrapped in plastic, I usually feel a little bit of connection with decks based on RW, but if it's too abstract with no symbology it's difficult. I have a deck at home I don't use (it has a picture of 6 wands for example, nothing more nothing less😅 so without memorizing all the meanings I can't read it intuitively)
@@MatthewP1991 Thats exactly one of the reason I turned to fake decks. In shops you are kept blind and the reviews on CZcams give you an idea but half of the fake decks I bought showed I shouldn’t buy them at all 🤪🤨😎
I absolutely hate it because it's a niche market as it is and if we all buy fakes why would artists take the effort still to make new decks if they are getting pirated? I'm just okay with old decks like RWS or Thoth that are no longer trademarked.
Tenho 3 decks que são réplicas e não sabia quando comprei.
Mas realmente são muito práticos no seu manuseamento.
Tenho alguns decks originais que não uso pois têm um tamanho absurdo que nem cabem nas mãos e custaram bastante caro até porque maior parte eu comprava logo após lançamento no mercado.Tem esse lado,por vezes até nos conectamos com o deck em si mas o manuseamento do mesmo acaba por criar desagrado e uma energia estressante.
Por isso acho que os autores têm que começar a pensar em diminuir o tamanho do deck , além que ficará mais barato.
Vídeo interessante.
Hi there thank you.
Thank YOU!
Buying knockoff decks is supporting theft, and resulting in artists no longer being able to create their art.
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For "spiritual" people sure they are VERY judgmental about paper.
Hey your at your husband's place, how is he doing.
That’s so kind of you! You are always so nice. Even when life is hard for you. We are both okay. He had to work most of he days but it’s from home so he is around lol 🤗🤗🤗🤗
Never buy a fake! I buy the real deal when I can if I can't I ll wait.
Buying pirated decks is morally bankrupt.
it is also morally bankrupt and criminal to put double taxes on import-products if someone in a second- or third-world country wants to buy something original...wake up
MANGA really? Now your turning japanese?
I am part Japanese… 😂 I am allowed to buy a manga deck ❤️🤗👍🏻
That video had me laughing. Amazing review and I like your point of view, really enjoyed watching.
Supporting artistic theft is weird. You blasted Travis McHenry for being a fraud yet you are here promoting fake decks. Some of these are unchanted/unblessed and were made to directly profit. Wdym by not hurting the creator? Artists barely get pennies. They do not get 100% of the money you spend from the deck LOL
Authentic or replica cards doesn't matter, it matters is how you read them, how u use them and how are u connected with them. By the end of the day they are all printed in china, both are papers and worn out. The bad thing is the designer doesn't earn money of it. :)
Yes it matters. The mindset and ethical principles of the reader matter the same as how they read the cards. "I save a lot of money because of buying fake decks and not WASTING money on the real deal" ... I would never buy a reading from a person going by principles like that... That's called lack of integrity and ignorance. If something doesn't have value to you, just don't buy it and don't support exploitation...
I would run a mile from a reader with dupes. Imagine fancying yourself a legitimate tarot reader when you have the morals to support the art plagiarisers of this world, robbing money from the creator’s hands and supporting organised crime groups. It sickens me. This video is disgusting.
@@rdhr3610 I distrust people who are preaching about "ethical principles"... most of the time they hv no principles themself.... just saying.