Reseller ETHICS Question - WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
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Someone could have bought the box without even looking at everything in box. They would be under no obligation to return the box.
If the box of GI Jo’s was that important to the seller, they would have organised them better and kept an eye on them. I paid $10 for the box, it’s mine.
I would have said yes, bring those out. And then I would have run to my car and hauled a$$. 🤣🤣
Nope Im walking out. That is your responsibility as the seller to know what you are selling
It can be confusing as hell at a sale. I always make sure the seller knows what I'm buying from them. Someone could have passed away, so I don't want to take anything in error that's sentimental.
You gotta do the right thing! There's a reason the Ebay reseller market has turned Cut throat!!! Even if i was demented enough to take the box for $10 i would have felt terrible and taken the GI Joes Back! Ethics is a business responsibility that we all must honor!
Yep this is how I feel too ..
I would have thought that was the price of the box. If the seller doesn't look through and see what she's selling, it's on her. As a reseller, you go and buy undervalued items dailey and sell for a profit. It's the same thing
Lonnie is right on the money about the buyer owning the box.
No doubt.
Since she specifically mentioned them, I would also have let her know about the GI Joes. I've run sales many times & that can easily happen with a customer mixing things from different boxes together.
HOWEVER, as a seller, I would've given him a very sweet deal in exchange for his honesty.
I would have told her about the GI Joes also otherwise its stealing. 😅 my heart would have felt guilty
I woulda told her sure I'd love to see your vintage GI Joe's, & see if she found more 😂
Life is a negotiation. Sometimes with self; sometimes with others.
Lonnie: "...Micro Machines market is a lot smaller." *Ba-dum tiss*
He might have asked the seller to show him the 2nd box, perhaps, there were more items? Just to verify her claim. The reseller made the correct ethical call.
Since you question the ethics of the seller, consider that when she went looking for them later, she might have thought he hid them in the box & was trying to steal them. It could have turned ugly if she decided to call the police. Plus, she might have recognized him later & made it difficult for him at other sales. His reputation is intact & he did the right thing. Even though it sucks that he didn't get the other GI Joes.
I wouldn't have known the difference but I think you're right. If you know, you know. Do the right thing.
I would have said no thanks and walked away. When I first read this post I thought she was talking about a different box. 🤷♀️💯
I had a similar event happen in my early years selling where a seller sent me something different but greater value. I played it dumb as if I didn't get anything, but now I still on occasion think back to it and feel absolutely awful about it. So for sure I'd of done the right thing and acknowledge the mistake they made, no amount of money is worth losing sleep and morality to. Even when I'm in the position to buy something like 100+ GI Joes for $10 I'd give more just because it has made me connections with others for additional collections.
If I were the seller I would have given him one of the GI Joes (of my choice) for his honesty. At least.
Box lot is $10 means box lot is $10. I can't reprice something that has already sold on ebay and Walmart can't reprice something once I've rung it up. Once the $10 bill left his hand and went into her pocket he owned the box and it's contents. IMO this is a very black and white scenario. Now if she had discovered her mistake and said she wanted to reprice I would have said sure no problem I'll sell you this box for 1/2 the price she comes up with.
I'd have been honest with her, I would have been disappointed, but I'd have stayed consistent on how I approach things.
Candace definitely said "but pan" 🤣
I saw this on the Facebook group and when I read it, my first thought was that the woman was talking about a different box, because the one in hand had a price of $10 on it. So if it had been me, that would have been my assumption, that there was another box of even better ones, maybe NOS, that were probably out of my price range, and I would have said "no thanks" and left with the $10 box. I wouldn't purposely walk out with something that I knew was mismarked, though.
I would have done the same thing. I HAVE done the same thing in a situation involving vintage Christmas stuff. As much as I'm trying to find a deal and make the most money, it's not worth it to me to lie or hide what I know in such a situation. If she hadn't said something to me, then whoopee I got a great deal. And this is different than someone quoting me a price of $10 for everything they see and that I know is worth way way more. They see it all, that's what it's worth to them at that time. That's fair. If I encounter them some time later and they ask if they had been in the box and didn't realize it at the time of the sale then it's moot at that point. "All sales are final" goes both ways after it's left the building.
I would've done the same as Alveraz. Now if she hadn't mentioned the expensive Joe's, would he (I) have bought the box for $10 and walked on? Mmm interesting dilemma.
This isn’t really a reseller comment but just a comment about something bought and returned at a yard sale. Years ago we were at a yard sale and my husband picked up some cookbooks. He collects them especially likes the ones that are made by the families and have all the unusual things in it. We got it home and we were looking at it it just seemed too special . We brought it back , and the people were horrified that they had sold it it was something that they treasured but somebody had put it out not knowing I guess. My husband was kind of ticked off that he had to give it up but that was between us he didn’t say anything to them. And we just used the dollar we spent to pick up something else from the sale. To this day it still irritates him if I bring it up , but at the same time , he feels we did the right thing .
As resellers ourselves , I’d probably have to be honest with her but I think she was wrong to not at least cut him a deal since he technically had paid for them and they were his.
He would not have said anything if she didn't offer g.i. joes so his ethics would have been different if she didn't say anything...he did not offer that information before paying. As far as her ethics being terrible a person just selling their stuff at a garage sale cannot be expected to have or even know of the ethics that a reseller should
Her loss... his gain...it shows her character...to me ethics are important to show us what the sellers ethics and or morals are
I saw this post in the group. It would be a toss up for me. If she priced all the stuff, it was on her. But she made a mistake. I probably would have told her.
When we see things in a "box" "bag" etc,. we don't always look through everything and just pay what was asked. However, if it looked like the seller didn't know what was in there, then Yes, would re-confirm with the seller if that is what they are actually selling. As things happen and something could have been put out that shouldn't be for sale. Though, there are some garage sellers who play the game, when they see some interest in the item(s) so they want to increase the price, after pickup.
I enjoy your banter! Great videos
We need more people like Alveraz in the world; especially in the reseller community. Sure, if you find a great deal that is under priced, that is super cool. But this was not the actual situation; once you know that the $10 price was not supposed to be on that box (or the GI Joes weren't supposed to be in the box) you do the right thing and hope the seller will work with you. You will always make more money; but money can never by character.
I saw that on Reseller Watercooler on FB. Loved that story.
I had closed captions turned on when Candace said "bundt" pan. It came across as "butt" pan😂
Thank you for your channel, I really enjoy it, your two work well together! What I would like to see Candice, is how you search for yard sales especially on facebook. I cannot seem to filter down to get the most recent in the search perimeter I am looking for. Also for items, I get some in my area I'm looking for and then all the sudden it gives me ones two states away. I know this sounds like a weird question but everytime I ask people how they search it they are having the same problem and they'll say " oh yeah that's just the way it is." I'm not buying it. A video on that would be awesome. Thanks for all you put out there! Kelly
I would have brought MY box of stuff home and I wouldnt have lost any sleep over it.
Heck Yeah!
I would have gone my merry way and earned a good amount of money
tough one... i bought the box prior to the info she gave me about the other box. she sold it to me as it was so therefore i own it. for all we know there is another box of gi joes she already sold. why would she have to reprice a box that already existed on the table. how many times do we buy boxes that do not contain the right item. i have to make sure i am buying quality item therefor it is the seller responsibility to check what she is selling me. if i buy something that doesn't match the box or is broken it is on me so the shoe fits the sellers foot the same way. the purchase is complete the contents are mine. lets see if anyone agrees or maybe my ethics are out of whack.
Candice definitely said “butt” pan 🤣
You did the right thing Alvarez. It’s not easy because you already purchased the figures. But because the seller mentioned the GI Joes, it is the correct thing to do. They were 100% aware of the value and that they had them. It feels good to do the right thing. You will come across other items. You should feel good.
It’s a hard say if I were laid off from my job & needed to feed my children I would have walked away. However, I am not in this position. When I buy in bulk at garage/yard sales I always ask seller go through before I pay. I always say I can wait.
Only because she actually said something about the exact items I knew I had in my hands would I have done the exact same thing. It would have ate me up if I intentionally walked away knowing she knew the value of the items I had but didn’t know they were in that box.
I would have done the same thing with the G.I. Joes. It's a bit of a bummer that the seller didn't try to work something out with the buyer, given that they could have walked away with the lot for $10, but the buyer knew that they might walk away with nothing when they spoke up, unfortunately. It comes down to what feels right to you, personally.
If I had not noticed the GI Joes until I got home, I might have felt differently about things. There are so many nuances to what feels right or wrong to any of at any given moment.
I would have done the same thing
Personally, I would have asked how much the box of Joe's were and declined. I wouldn't have known that the Joe's were in there as I am not versed in vintage Joe's.
I read this on the FB group and agreed with him. It's just wrong after hearing her to not tell her the truth. I would have assumed, as he did, that they just didn't know the value when it was the box for $10 and paid it. But after they said that, I would have been guilt-ridden if I didn't tell them I think the 'box' they are talking about is under the layer of toys in this one.
Someone at that church got greedy with their prices. Maybe when they have a massive amount left over to deal with, they will know better next sale.
She should’ve given him the box for being honest
I think i would have done the same. First, i have to sleep with me at night. Second, i just want to earn to earn a living, not screw people. She seems to be a little greedy by not offering an opening to negotiate.
If you want to live with it fine,personally I think the buyer did the right thing
I would have kept walking. I gave them what they were asking. I do not want to hurt my relationship with the local estate sale companies - so would have cooperated with them if they questioned them….
I sold a pair of shoes on an offer of $2 instead of $20. I cancelled the sale and apologized to the buyer. They were upset and demanded I sell them the shoes for $2 an that the customer was always right. I explained to them that the offer price is different from the listing price and the amount was done in error. I feel I was right in this situation.
I would have done what he did but she should have been thankful and should have worked a good deal for him. That they both sides benefited but instead, she did not realize he could’ve taken that box that he already paid for and made a huge profit. Instead, he was honest as I would’ve been. I don’t believe that this woman understood how instead of a rewarding honesty, her greed got to her I hope he keeps doing exactly as he did. That’s how we keep honest people in this world, I’d rather have my integrity than the money. Just wish she had understood what a good person did for her …
People who get in the Zone, working from home, often forget what day it is! Retirees have the same problem. So logically, retiree resellers (like me) have to stop and come up for air some days and look at their phones or laptops to see what day it is and set alarms!
In our case my wife keeps our “social & event” schedule on her phone. When someone, like my dentist, wants to book an appointment it doesn’t happen if she isn’t with me!
I would have told the lady, "Have a nice day! Thank you for the deal." I would have walked away from that.
Not my fault. Thanks for the business. The 10$ were already overpaid for the pile of garbage on top.
You guys should put indexes in your videos for people who are not interested in the viewer questions and just want to see what was sold. It would be alot easier to fast forward to parts people want to see through out your videos.
I would have done the same
However, if the Joes were supposed to be sold at a higher price and they were so important, they should have been wrapped and priced separately.
I probably would have asked her to meet me halfway on the price.
Those situations are awful for everyone.
Comes down to karma....if I took a second to get over excitement of uncovering a home run and want to snag it I would have told them like he did.....that karma stuff will pay you back in the long run..one way or the other
I'm conflicted. I feel like the guy did purchase the items fairly. The seller should've looked at what was being purchased when it was brought to them. It was nice of him to be honest. But there are times I've messed up on items (I do a flea market and yard sales) and went with it because it was my bad.
I would have done the same as the person who asked the question. I would feel like I was stealing otherwise. If they didn’t mention the other box, then I would have left with the box as it was.
I'd have done the same... Karma over profit... if she decides to get greedy... that karma is her problem... I'll make it up on the next one.
Every sale I go to I always go up to the owner and tell them some punk kids knocked their sale sign down, but it's OK because I chased them off and put their sign back up. All that is total BS. Now they see me as the savior of their sale. I can basically low ball them on anything at the sale. Haha, just kidding. 😂
Here's what I'd do: since I do collect 80s Joes I would have looked incredibly disappointed and asked if I could just buy two or three that I'm interested in if the price was right -- no point in going home empty handed after going all the way to the sale. Then I would have asked if it would be fine if I get their phone number and make an offer for the lot if they don't sell the next day.
When she said I have vintage GI joes and do I want to look at them I would of said yes and if she came back empty handed saying she couldn’t find them I would of come clean BUT!!! If that was at a carboot sale in uk I can guarantee 100% nobody would own up they would pay £10 and go
There’s a good possibility that she did in fact have another box of joes in the house, And missed the joes the author bought. He paid asking price for the box, it was his. Very kind of him to give it back. I’m not sure I would have done that. I don’t think it would have been unethical to walk away with the box after paying for it.
That church sale reminds me of one I went to. 'It's for charity', unquote. They had $125 on a $25 necklace, resale price about $50 at best. Claimed it was antique but it was at most 20 years old, and that's being generous. It was still there when I left. Long tale of stupid mistakes (theirs) omitted. I can bet we both know a sale we won't be back to.
I think church sales have changed a lot. Went to one and furniture was outrageously priced. A few days after sale the furniture was in parking lot with a facebook post saying free furniture come and get it.
I would have don exactly how it went down. The seller did not realize her mistake and we have to be honest with them. The only thing I would have done is ask her for a discount on the entire box because it was at least the end of the day.
I'd be lying if I said I'd do what he did. I might have asked to see what else she had, but when I have a huge score like that in my hands, I'm a shaking fidgety mess.. I probably would have just said I'm good and headed for the truck..
If it was a large store or supermarket made the mistake wrong pricing things I would not have a problem buying at the lower price
I would not have assumed she was talking about the box that I currently had in my possession. I would not have volunteered any other information. I do not think ethics even come into play in this.
Like I said on the reply directly on that post on the watercolor page... it is our job, as resellers, to search for items that are at the lowest selling price to give us the most profit margin. Example: if we see an item that we know sells on the bay for $100 and the sellers mark it for $1-$5 bucks then we pick it up and buy it... if the seller marked it up to $75 because the seller says that it sells on ebay for $100, that makes ZERO sense for us to buy it at $75 to make only less than $25 (after fees).
In this scenario, it is the sellers responsibility to know where their items are and the correct prices marked on the boxes etc. They dropped the ball and you pay them their asking price. You did nothing wrong... it is not like you were the one that did the lady things and switch the items or switch the price for you to take advantage of them and force them to get less. Be a reseller and make that money. Note: I also stated in the response that you did the right human with a good heart would or should do. Lol
Not my problem, what ever I purchased in the box is mine. See ya.
A few commenters are drawing a false equivalence between getting a good price for an item and getting an item unbeknownst to the seller.
In my opinion, the key piece of information missing what she changed the price to. As someone with a good knowledge of vintage GI Joes, maybe the deal was still a bargain or not...
As the buyer, I would have asked the seller to see the box of Joes she mentioned. She may have had a second, separate batch and if she produced them, I’d deal for that box as well.
And likely, if parked close by, would put My Box in the car while waiting for her to produce box two. But then I’ve been on the other side as well. I remember one of our large community sales where I took the pricing gun and put the same low price on a table full of empty small tool boxes (the type with the lift out tray and carry handle) to shift them.
Mid morning a buyer walked up with one of them and held out the cash and asked: Did I realize that one had a bunch of sockets and tools in it? I hadn’t, but my response was to take the loss and sell it for the marked price. Saw the guy back the next year too, and the next…..
I would have paid the $10 and when she said that I would have said let me take this to my car and then I will come back. It is the seller's responsibility to look at what is being purchased
Ethics aside, be aware that in most places no receipt or bill of sale means you don't own it. If you buy a big ticket item insist on some proof or they could report it stolen after the sale. Exchanging money is often not legal proof.
Then the person reporting it stolen better have a receipt, otherwise they don't own it either.
Whilst I've not much attended garage, yard nor church sales in years as I was in authorized chain supply I'd see more unethical behavior at such sales almost inconceivable. Many proprietors of sales have no clue as to resale values and not to put too fine a point on it are taken advantage of. Yet, if some buyer online takes advantage of them as sellers... Well, whole different scenario then isn't it? Really? No its not.
If the sellers were not sellers and say mom and dad's estate sale or downsizing sale had their parents taken advantage of, Tiffany Lamps, Jewelry, Toys no matter the products by people who are buying it with the intent to make money how would they feel?
Often in chats or forums you'll hear sellers complaining about buyers who make "lowball offers" yet these same people at others sales who dont tend to know sale value do the exact same thing. Reailty of ethics, most sellers want ethics and enforcement upon buyers yet when sourcing they just throw that book right out the window. Bottom line folks, truth is truth and that is inescapable.
"Micro Machine market is a lot smaller than Hot Wheels" 😅😂
In the past we accidentally sold a woman's brand new coat at a yard sale for $1 because she had left it in the van with all the other stuff we were bringing. Felt bad about that.
Could just reconcile in my mind that Hey! Maybe there is* another box of Joe's somewhere and said OK yeah go find them I'm going to load my paid for stuff into my vehicle brb....orrrr if I felt compelled to say I think this box is the one u speak of after they reprice it say OK you do realize I could've just left w this so hit me w a 75% off minimum and I guess that could be good enuff for everyone....in the moment it would basically be a split second snap decision what to do tho.
If it looked to me like that box was just priced incorrectly amd I already paid for it then I'd say that's how the cookie crumbles n I have a huge score...if I was dude who gave her the box back I would frequent as many of her sales as possible bc she will remember that and could pay off w great deals down the road....
It was her job to inventory the box before the purchase. I agree with Lonnie that he owned the box but I would have told her and negotiated hard to bring it within fair value.
Memo don’t be a slimeball lol either one right but I get it Thankx for the episode
Since she mentioned it I would have done the same thing, even though my better self would have known the right thing to do would be to tell her even if she didn't. Maybe my guilt genne would have kicked in anyway, guess it depends if she seemed like a jerk or not, if she was likeable I would have told her. If she was Candace definitely would have told her, Lonnie? Definitely maybe.
I also wonder what she priced them at after the fact and if they actually sold for her for her price or did they sit there all day and in the end she took a much lower offer for them.
not sure if I bought box then they said something truly if you said something that value they show have it by them like you would jewelry knives or whatever value ie normally up front
Those "all sales are final" signs work both ways, just try returning something you bought then found out it was broken. Nope. Once you buy it it's yours. I would be honest, but not ask if they wanted it back. Instead I'd say something like Oh, I think I just bought those, can I give you $ x.xx dollars for the extra stuff?
Burning rubber
Could you use a gram scale to avoid duplicates of blind boxes?
I did that and accidentally sent and offer for 5 dollars on 50 dollar item, I canceled the purchase and explained to the buyer 😉
Ya but on the flip side she raised the price to a unreasonable amount after she was being ETHICAL, I would have said they were in there but ya they owned it at that point I would have gave them a option to reprice to a reasonable amount for them and the buyer the whole situation was unfair to the reseller
I would have asked to see the (other) GI Joe box. There might have been another one. If she couldn't find it, then I would have said something about the GI Joe's in the box he bought. Also, if he already paid for the box then it's his. He didn't even have to say what else was in the box. Not sure how i would have played this.......hmmmmm
I want to say that I would have done the same thing! I probably would. 🙂🙂
In the same situation hearing her say that I probably would have done the same thing and handed back the box. However, I also don’t think it would have been wrong to pay for the box and leave.
Once she told him about the GI Joes, he'd have to be a complete a-hole to just walk out. Did the right thing. Onto the next deal.
I would have told her the Gi Joe's were in the box but would not have given it back. I would explain l bought them fair and square. Lesson to the seller, know your stuff like we have to.
Because she mentioned the other box, i might have some the same thing as the commenter. But as a reseller, aren't your every day buys taking something a person can't sell to make a profit on your end? I wouldn't feel bad for a second if that happened in real life.
I paid already and owned them at that point so I’d ask her to pay me at least double
My answer would be different if she'd said something before money changed hands. Once that happens it's too late. Game over, end of story. I think somebody did something shady and the reseller was punished even though he wasn't there. The reseller could simply have paid and walked and probably should have. I'd have said I never saw a second box, just this one. The reseller didn't move the box contents and the seller didn't check to see what she was selling. On her own head be it. I've been in that position a few times and it sucks but it happens. My ethical standards are usually pretty tight, but she essentially STOLE those action figures from the reseller.
She definitely said butt!
He did the right thing on the GI Joes