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Loved this one Charlie, really liked the steam sound, the only problem I have with steam sound is the chuff sounds to quick, if that makes sense, is it possible to change this?
I don’t believe so Alan.
I’m certainly no steam expert but I’ll find out about the chuffing chuff rate. 😜
Regards Charlie.
@@ChadwickModelRailway I know TRS Trains manage to sync the smoke (Steam) with the chuff, I suspect they use ultrasonics for the smoke, much safer than heat, but they don't say how it's done, protecting there invention I suspect.
We can’t blame them either.
@Colin Meredith Thanks
Chuff rate sounded ok to me. 4 beats per revolution. Spot on.
Charlie, the cheeky schoolboy look when you said "wooo exciting", I laughed
I’m so pleased that I brought a smile to your face JK.
Those 'helping hands' are brilliant. I have two which is incredibly useful.
Many hands ………
Regards Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway Indeed!!
Thank you Charlie for a very interesting and informative video. Years ago I built a PCB with components supplied (not sure which company) of an “EXHAUST STEAM SOUND CHUFFER”. This was of course for a regular DC analogue layout and had the loud speaker fitted statically on the layout under the scenery. Years before DCC but gave a realistic sound albeit not upon the loco, but upon the layout itself. The sky is the limit now with DCC, but those of us with analogue, it still adds a touch of realism.
As long as it works for you, David. Regards, Charlie.
Really chuffed to see you again....
Thanks David, it’s a real hoot!
Love your channel and your attitude, Charlie.
I'm gobsmacked, this is the first time I've seen a loco whereby both cab lights are on at the same time.
Older locos are often like this Sam.
Another great hands on tutorial, Charlie! You're great at showing HOW to do things, not just showing the results; makes all the difference in the world! Thanks for the lesson!
That’s very kind of you to say so Pat. Take care mate, regards Charlie
Now here's loyalty for you. Already liked and commented positively, but watching later 😁
You’re a valued supporter Chris.
It’s great to have you on board mate, regards Charlie
Spent many an hour at Reading General in the late 60's watching Westerns and Warships, and the Warships were always my favourites, probably due to the famous and evocative names they used to carry. The best livery in my humble opinion was green with half yellow fronts, together with red nameplates and 'D' prefix numbers. They really were a magnificent loco, especially when double heading the Cornish Riviera express. Never forget my excitement on the day that D830 Majestic slowly came through the station on the middle line with a down freight, the last Warship that I needed to complete the full set. Cheers Charlie, love the channel.
What joy that must’ve been Roger to get your last warship. I remember when I got my last western, western buccaneer, such joy. Regards, Charlie.
Hi Charlie, I really enjoy the step by step process and not just jumping to the end. It gives us beginners the confidence to give it a go. Thank you for taking so much time putting these videos together. I know it’s a lot of work for you, but please know it makes the world of difference to us. Cheers
Anthony
Thanks Antony, what a heartwarming comment. Regards Charlie
As a child I loved going to the Bulmers Train days in Hereford. Oh how things have changed since the 1971.
Such happier times.
Regards Charlie
Thankyou for the information and interesting video cheers Charlie
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Mark.
I had a dream the other week that you came to my house for a cup of tea and to discuss the hobby directly in person, It was so strange when my wife came to me in my dream and said "Charlie from Chadwick is here" maybe I'm watching too many videos lol.
I think you need to retreat from CZcams for a few days mate, regards Charlie
Great video like and subscribed from Czech Republic 🙂👍👍👍👍
Thanks VS, regards Charlie.
Another great film hitting the right mark with a tutorial of sound enhancements to a diesel and a steam loco. A nicely done step by step guide and the comparison of the speakers to judge the sound output.
Thanks John, I’m pleased that you enjoyed it.
Love the Artwork on the wall! Did not know you were so talented! 😃
Gifts from young admirers, to which I’m most grateful.
@@ChadwickModelRailway Nice to see, and they will be so pleased to have seen them on the wall!
Good vid Charlie, also had issues from TMC, but here's a tip when using heat shrink...keep your soldering iron switched on and move it close to the heat shrink, it will shrink, saves stealing the misses hair dryer and blowing all them tiny screws on the floor!
What tiny screws, their in the groves of the floor boards 😅😂🤣 and the bloody screws are smaller in N gauge!!
Great point Martin, regards Charlie.
I only just diecovered your channel the other day and I must say, "you are really very good at these videos"! I dont have a model train but i have been thinking about installing a rail that runs the full length of the house running from room to room about 12" down from the ceiling. Watching your videos has really started me thinking of this again. You really are OUTSTANDING! Thank you so much for all your efforts and hard work.
Hi Josef, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards Charlie.
Very nice sounds
Thanks Redbank, regards Charlie
I am glad the repairs and upgrades were successful. Got a little anxious there for a minute. Those are a couple of really nice models! Cheers, Andrew
Yes it is a little bit of a risky business, fixing it yourself!
I note Charlie that your grand children are gifted like you. Thank you for another interesting video, what could go wrong.
They were drawn by the children of a Subscriber who follow the channel intently, to which I am enormously grateful.
Havent bought anything from Roads&Rails yet but what I like about them is they let you hear the sound before you buy and recommend the best speaker.
Yes Richard really is a good guy. Regards Charlie
#3 is a great pick
I couldn’t agree more James, regards Charlie
What an interesting front bogie on King George V, with the covered up axle at the front and an open one at the back.
Great video as always! Quite a great distraction when youre ill.
I’m so pleased you enjoyed it mate and to get better quickly. Regards Charlie
Great video as ever Charlie, that King George is crying out for a smoke generator 😉
I shall have to look into their practicality .
Regards Charlie.
Not a fan of smoke generators - the smoke make me sneeze :-( @@ChadwickModelRailway
Just subscribed. Currently renovating our bungalow while coping with health issues, but (hopefully) in a couple of years will be at the point where I can 'unleash' the N locos I bought a few years ago into the loft and build a layout. Came here for inspiration and found it, as well as a compatible world view. Learning to use Anyrail (having owned it for several years and leaving it dormant) and have spent the last week or so watching the development of your layout and your predilection for going on raiding trips to the kitchen when the 'cats away'. Keep smiling, I am.
I'm so pleased that you enjoyed it LordTechnopants. Stay safe. Regards Charlie
I love the Warship Charlie, what a beautiful piece of kit and, as you say, the weathering is just about perfect
Thanks Tim, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Thanks for the video. King Charles V looks great.
A sincere compliment indeed B68C.
A GWR tender with 3 bogies? And a "Horn"? Whistle! 😃
A few slips of the tongue, and I get ripped to bits!😜
@@ChadwickModelRailway That's all they can find fault with! And I like that you're man enough to show you're not perfect (just like the rest of us)!
hi charlie. yes another great how to video. keep up the good work. cheers tom.
Thanks Tom, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
@@ChadwickModelRailway yes very much so.
Fantastic video. I really like that Warship. You make it look so easy, but I know that it is not. Full marks.
Thanks Aaron, that’s very kind of you to say so. Regards, Charlie
Wonderful video
Thanks, you’re too kind.
You've never heard a Warship going up the bank from Exeter St Davids to Central station! Once heard never forgotten!
Sadly no but surely someone must have filmed it?
Hi Charlie, great work, very interesting video. Regards Greg
Glad you enjoyed it Greg. Regards Charlie
Very interesting video in all aspects. Especially liked reading the comments. Always enjoy your work Charlie. Look forward to the next update. Roy.
Thanks Roy, it’s great to have you onboard. Regards Charlie.
Very nice weathering on that loco, sounds good too! Thanks for sharing your work Charlie.
Your most welcome Roy, great work from TMC. Regards Charlie.
Charlie, sorry this Is the wrong video for this reply. I have starting watching your videos in the background at work and have seen many this week. In a similar video you mentioned using plastic cement to glue on a loco body to the frame as opposed to ACC as it would more easily removed and broken free. I wanted to offer that ACC can be broken free very easily by putting it in the freezer overnight. Of course it works on all of the ACC on a model but if it’s used for only for joining the chassis to the body of loco you are home free. Thanks for your great videos. Cheers from the US.
What an interesting tip Bruce. Many thanks, regards Charlie.
Most enjoyable Charlie
I’m so pleased that you found it interesting, regards Charlie
Great video, just subscribed and looking forward to watching more. Many Thanks.
It's great to have you onboard Peter. Regards Charlie.
Great video Charlie. liked pictures on the wall at the start of the video.
They are gifts from some of my younger followers for which I’m most grateful.
Regards Charlie.
That's incredible weathering. You might want to look into a product the aircraft modelers use: Liquid Gravity. It's handy way to add weight in styrene-friendly ways. And can be fit to void spaces like under a moulded coal load or the like.
An excellent suggestion mate, regards Charlie
Charlie you’ve done it yet again, we love all your videos, obviously some speak to me more than others but you haven’t made a single video we haven’t loved , the last one and now this one are totally up my ally - I love investigating faults in the likes of locomotives and when you solve the problem it gives you such a sense of achievement, excellent excellent tutorial video - please keep them coming 💖👍
What a heartwarming comment Andy, it’s great to have you onboard.
This video is so fascinating
Thanks Joshua, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it mate
Great video Charlie!!! Thanks for sharing. Cheers Onno.
You’re most welcome Onno.
Absolutely fffffffascinating Charlie 😂😂😂
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Roberts. Regards Charlie
Good show Charlie ! Rather fiddly and detailed but very rewarding ! Nice one ! John from Chichester.
Thanks John, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting mate.
Have you thought of putting a little bit of Tacky Wax in the cable runs? That might hold the wires in place and stop them getting caught or crushed if you need to remove the body in the future. Great weathering job by TMC though. Might see if they have a 33 to weather up.
Tape might be better and good luck with your Class 33.
Great video Charlie from what i have seen TMC really do some great stuff and the weathering is also very good too. Thanks for another great video.- Nicholas.
Thanks Nicholas, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting.
Hi Charlie…wow, you were brave with that video. Great watch as always…all the best, Chris
Thanks Chris, I’m so pleased you found it interesting.
Charlie, Thank you again for sharing the great video. It is always a concern when pulling locos, or carriages apear, that you get it back to gether and not pinch any wire. As you say, what can go wrong. Sometimes, lots.
I know sound is a personal choice, but with the King George V loco, I think you used the right speaker.
Keep up the great vids.
Cheers, and stay safe. Michael
Thanks Michael, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Charlie I love the way you explain what you are doing. Looking at the tender it appears that it has a removable plastic coal load allowing you to put a real coal load in. If it is the standard pop off type you could place a couple of weights or large metal nuts in the compartment and replace the plastic coal load to add weight.
Great point Fred. I shall certainly check it out.
You were lucky with that Hornby GWR. I recently bought a new Hornby Castle, when I took the tender top off, all the internals disintegrated immediately.
You do right to add weights to the tender, I always add some car wheel weights to Hornby tenders.
Also lining the inside of the tender with bath seal (for sound deadening) improves the sound quality.
Great tips Ewan, many thanks.
They are another couple of nice additions to Chadwick, the warship does look nice just a shame about that wire but at least you were able to fix it without too much trouble. I've broke a few brake handles on tenders so can relate to that well, love the fine details but a nightmare to handle. Another great video thanks. Cheers, Rob.
Thanks Rob, at least we share the same mistakes.
TMC were bit unlucky getting the wire trapped probably couldn’t do it if you tried. Weathering looks very nice indeed. Enjoyed the 12” to the Foot Warship at East Lancashire Railway Diesel Gala recently made a lovely sound. Great vlog again Charlie.
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Colin.
I must get up to the East Lancashire sometime. Regards Charlie
Very enjoyable Charlie..you have two lovely looking models there. All the best.
Thanks Tim, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed my choice of locos.
Brilliant as always
Thanks Tim I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.
Very interesting as usual Charlie , what else would we expect
That’s very kind of you to say so John, regards Charlie
Very good nice 👍🏼
Thanks Naseem.
Hi Charlie, as ever a great and interesting video! Best wishes from Germany Günter
Thanks Gunter I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it mate.
Hi Charlie, That class 43 looks very impressive.....
And it’s even better now the lights work!
Good one Charlie (pronounced Doris). Keith. ;-)
I'm so pleased that you enjoyed it Keith. Stay safe. Regards Charlie
Thank you👍
You’re most welcome John.
Great video, sir. Im new to model trains, my first train set is in the mail. I like repairs video, there's so much to learn!
Good luck with your project Mana, regards Charlie.
Thanks Charlie. Don’t know how much they charged for the weathering but for my money it was worth every penny. I always seem to over do it if I use washes ,I get better results with powders.
Like you Mark, I find weathering to be somewhat of a nightmare. Regards Charlie
To be fair:
Back in the day I had a few years on a preserved railway. On a certain day I was approaching the yard with a works train, doing 15-20mph.
Unbeknownst to me, there was an unscheduled movement going on in the yard.The yard foreman had, therefore, laid out 3 track detonators at a suitable distance to warn the train as we had no operating signals.
Even at 15-20mph the resulting explosions almost rolled into one sound.
An interesting point, I shall have to have another listen.
Another excellent video, and thanks for producing it. I must say I've never understood why the front bogie has the wheels arranged as they are. It looks as if the designer couldn't decide whether he wanted the Castle/Grange/Manor/Hall arrangement or that on the 4.4.0 classes!
The reason for that design is quite simple, as that is the only way it fits behind the cylinders.
Good question and it does seem rather strange.
@@ivovanzon164 Thank you!
good vid layouts looking well and locos look good keep up the vids
Thanks mate, so pleased you enjoyed it.
Wow! If I could only get the King George the 5th to run on my period narrow guage logging railroad......Guess that's not going to happen. Anyway as always, fascinating to explore the comings and goings on the Chadwick from here on the Central Coast of California.
I’m pleased that you enjoyed it GC.Sadly it will not appear in narrow gauge!
It was intriguing to see D842 in blue and without the D prefix, as it was usually seen in the rather nice maroon livery with the D prefix.
I had always assumed that the D was only dropped shortly before withdrawal but you may know better, as you often do!
Yes you’re right Hugh. It was dropped once steam had ended removing duplication between steam and diesels.
Another very enjoyable video - thanks, Charlie. But I agree with Don Shape - my memory of Kings (and Castles) taking off from High Wycombe on a 'down' train is that they had a much more throaty/bassy sound, especially on those first few 'chuffs' from a standing start. But maybe that was enhanced by echoes from the 'up' line retaining wall! Reproducing a sound like that from a speaker smaller that a matchbox is a big ask. Maybe a tuned resonance tube stashed in the first carriage would come close to doing it justice - well, over to you and your contacts at the manufacturers on that one then, Charlie 🤣
The advances in speakers is ongoing and I’m sure that it will be improved in time David.
The sound from Howes is good, but the best I have heard is the Locoman Sounds Chip for the king - other then that it’s good!
Sound is a very subjective subject, and also a nightmare, regards Charlie
Another good one Charlie, with ear phones on I agree with you number 3 speaker sounds better to me. Pity you couldn’t use it.👍
Yes Martin sound is a very subjective thing. Regards Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway 👍
With the King class, the speed 15 sound reminds me of the phrase "Have A Pepper" repeated in rhythm. N gauge limits the space available inside locos, so sound chips are a bit of a problem. Interesting stuff though Charlie.
Thanks Alan, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting mate.
Really interesting - and shows how intricate these models are.
One observation from the steam loco on the rolling road - it looks as if its got a slight issue with 'wobble'. The cab wobbles but the front end seemed to be going up and down too? I've watched other videos on 'quartering' so I wonder if the quartering on this loco is just slightly out, causing the wobble...or whether it's an axle either bent r not sitting properly? Its one of these things that doesn't show up when running around the layout. Now I can understand why a good few secondhand locos are described as having a 'wobble' ! They must be tested at the shop on a rolling road!
Thanks yet again Charlie.
Interesting observation Ian. However, a lot of the Hattons class 66 is suffer from it even though they’re brand-new out of the box! Regards Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway A lot of steam loco models suffer from the wobbles. Some more than others. Perhaps a redesign of the alex ends would help, but then again I;m just a customer, and not part of the design team !
Brand new models steam and diesels (excuse bad spelling it's not a strong point with me) have a certain amount of wobble to them. I assume that this could be due the the axels having round ends, and the wheel sets been a press fit. If the axles had squair ends and the axle holes the same, (like Slaters) then perhaps they would not wobble! Just a thught!
Superb video as usual Charlie. Shame that the flat speaker did not fit. I thought the sound was awesome.
Yes I agree Clive. But I’m sure I’ll find another logo in the future. Regards Charlie
Informative video again Charlie. Not a great advert for TMC, hopefully they see this and improve their quality control. Expensive products at the end of the day
Too true Dan.
Many thanks, regards Charlie
Hi Charlie another interesting and factual video, hopefully if TMC watch this video they will perhaps double check the operation of products before posting out. The third speaker for me had the edge but fully understand due to size the second one had to be used, still sounds good though.
You nearly caught me out, checked midday and no pop up from Chadwick and just going to seat down for dinner then notification of your latest video, hooray. Many thanks for sharing please stay safe..
I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Barry. Yes I had to shift my release time from noon until 5 pm due to personal circumstances. Regards Charlie
top work sir
Thankd Anthony. Regards Charlie
The 2nd speaker, for me, sounded the meatier which is appropriate for the King class.
I understand Bryn, but sound can be a very subjective thing
I would have used heat shrink tubing and soldered a short jumper in there in my case.
I couldn’t find it initially Paul.
For the 'missing' sounds, the loksound 5 does have support for selecting an engine sound for a higher rpm setting, so maybe that feature is implemented on this sound set (as it could be a V200 set with British horns and announcements)
An interesting point IVZ. Regards Charlie
Hi Charlie, thank you for the video. I like it how you explain and show what you are doing. I would like to make a guess about the sound you don't know: It might be the releasing of the breaks.
About the damage: I would have sent the locomotive back that TMC can fix the cable and on top weathering the additional pieces for free.
An interesting point BL, let’s see if they get in touch.
Fascinating stuff Charlie. I wonder if you could have used your helping hand to hold the first speaker you were testing for the King George V.
I did like the new artwork on the wall in the first part of the video - turning your hand to watercolours?
I’m pleased that you enjoyed it Lee. The art work is from two young brothers; a treasured gift.
Hey Charlie,
Despite the fact that i am into swiss railways (period 3/4) I really love your show. British model railroading is quite different from continental railroading. Your eye for detailing and landscaping is amazing. Very realistic. What i like about your approach is that you just start and you find out things on the run. To me it seams that british model railroaders have far more quality issues with their rolling stock then continental model railroaders. On the other hand prices of british rolling stock are far more acceptable then continental. May i suggest that you buy two pair of tweezers, one straight, one bent, ik will make your life so much easier handling small wires screws and other parts. Keep up the good works, thank you very much.
Thanks Mellle, for the useful advice.
Regards Charlie
I liked the 20 x 20 a bit more from the start.
Sound is a very subjective thing isn’t it. Regards Charlie
Great video Charlie I don't usually do steam sound as unfortunately it sounds like it's running on 2nd valve whilst running as light engine. This as you know only requires a breath of steam. Hope that makes sense.
Dennis, you have clearly forgotten more about this than I will ever know. Regards Charlie
Charlie, Really, just got round to watching your video of the installation of sound into King George V, I know I may be being pedantic, but when did Steam loco's have Horns, I am sure I heard a whistle when you activated the sound option...... !!!!!!
Don’t worry Richard, it wasn’t the only slip of the tongue. I also said that the tender had three bogies!
Nice stream locomotive. I put a cube speaker in my britannia locomotive in the smoke box. I just extended the wire to fix works very well. Even Hornby wanted to know how I did this. My thoughts was when do you get sound from a stream locomotive coming from the tender? In real life you don't. Great video thanks for sharing Charlie 😄👍
An interesting point Ian, but I’m pleased you found the video interesting. Regards Charlie
Hey Charlie, I share your pain! New model arrives, but not “as expected “….! Do you send it back, or sort it yourself? I’ve had that moment where I’ve though “bugger, should have sent it back”! But hey, ho, that’s part of the challenge and fun of railway modelling, isn’t it?!?
@14:00 Blacktac! Wee dod of the stuff to keep the errant wire in check.
@25:40 Love the irony!
@26:30 Weathering looks fab!
@37:15 Margaret’s hairdryer…. Really? It’s obviously yours!!!!
@40:10 Sounds great!!!!
Cheers, Ross, building a layout at East Coast DCC.
Great comment EC DCC.
It can’t be my hairdryer, I don’t have enough hair!
Charlie, as a complete novice, I'm finely getting around to laying track.
It's really amazing how small the locomotives are , with your camera they look huge . What is the width of the bench that you have laid the track on.
The era I'm trying to model is the cross over between steam and the first Diesels introduced into Ireland by CIE.
🇮🇪🇪🇺
Hi Derek my bench width is 30 inches. Regards Charlie
HI great video as usual, I see that you taped up the broken wire may i surgest that you try cleal nail varnish to insulate the bear wire it only takes a few seconds to dry and you can give is a few coats its also flexable.
Thanks again.
Now there’s an option I have never heard of Ken, thank you. Regards Charlie
@@ChadwickModelRailway ooh another raid on Margaret's stock
Hi Charlie. That Warship does look great. However I do have several sound fitted steam outline models and I never fit speakers in the tender. I never heard a tender chuff! Seriously if you take the bother (and it is in many cases) to fit the speaker(s) up the front in the smokebox you will be amazed at the improvement in what sound you get. One of my Castles would easily outbark (is that a word?) your King which to my ears sounds a bit asthmatic. I believe the problem lies in the internal shape of tenders from which the sound bounces. I frequently fit as large a sugar cube speaker (12mm or 9mm) in the smokebox against the back of the smokebox door facing back into the boiler which I think probably acts as a megaphone. It acts brilliantly. I always fit sound systems from South West Digital whose steam systems are generally better and more appropriate than many others. Hope one day that we may be able to chat face to face. Regards Barry
A great point Barry and I well move in time. Regards Charlie.
no screeching of the breaks ? 🤣
No very civilised.
I'd pop some masking tape over those cable channels to hold the wires in, something seen inside lots of tech equipment with delicate wiring, ditto something to secure and route those connector wires away from internal fouling.
You’re certainly right on this one.
But what a dodgy design!
Re the cables in the "War ship" I would have put a little bit of tape over them, just to help keep them in place in the channels. I have in the past when wanting to fit a decoder to brand new locomotives, that wires have been trapped inside, and almost split in half by the body screws.
You are of course right Mike, I should’ve take them down prior to reassembly.
@@ChadwickModelRailway Or perhaps the guys in the factuary should do this when they make them! I must (although I like clean locos) say the the Weathering that TMC have done on the model is perhaps the best that I have seen,
@@mikeking2539 HI
I find a small amount of PVA glue works well.
Dries clear. Space saving. Can be removed and replaced easily.
Regards Howard
Again a very well shot piece. Was I the only person who winced at the red tape over the wire joint? - Next time I see you I will let you have some heat shrink - it not only insulates but mechanically protects the joint from strain also.
I see you did use it on the second one fitting the speaker.
Yes. Sorry Paul, I missed a trick there, thinking that I didn’t have small enough heat-shrink.
Great video as always Charlie cheers, have you checked out TRS trains with the digital smoke effects,they are amazing, he will retro fit any model with steam, it uses water , he's got a Facebook page , maybe you could interview him !
Thanks Les, and I shall certainly look into the TRS developments.
Great tutorial charlie but if you think the tmc weathering is good send one of your locos to The Weathering Works, for around 25 quid plus postage ( prices may have changed since i got mine done) the weathering work is superbly done 👍😀
Thanks mate, I’ll check them out.
@@ChadwickModelRailway cool his work is spot on 👍👍
@@ChadwickModelRailway Check out their Instagram page Charlie
Cheers
Steve
Thanks Charlie. Was worried that you didn't mention making sure not to trap the cab lighting wires again when reassembling the Warship. But it worked.
Have you lost that handbrake yet? ;-)
Give me time Andrew, it won’t be long!