Shin Megami Tensei V Review - I WANT MORE
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- I heard a lot of mixed opinions about Shin Megami Tensei V on the Nintendo Switch. Odd that it's only on the Nintendo Switch, right? Shin Megami Tensei is the 5th mainline entry to the Shin Megami Tensei series.
I for one really enjoyed SMT 5, and I frankly I want more. In this review we discuss Shin Megami Tensei V gameplay and OST.
" When a grisly murder scene in modern-day Tokyo blocks our protagonists walk home, an unplanned detour leaves him buried and unconscious. He awakens in a new Tokyo, a wasteland ravaged by apocalypse now called Da'at... but before bloodthirsty demons can claim his life, a savior emerges, and they unite to become a mighty being neither human nor demon: a Nahobino. With newfound power, the protagonist ventures through Da'at, an enigmatic realm filled with mythical deities and demonic tyrants in constant conflict for survival. Searching for answers, the protagonist must forge his own path in a battle between light and dark to dictate the fate of the world. Key Features: • Unfold an allusive story filled with tragic choices, make sacrifices to uphold your ideals as you pursue light or covet darkness to discover your role in the new world. • Fight through a demon-infested wasteland with the Press Turn Battle System, pinpoint enemy weaknesses so you can perform consecutive actions but make one mistake and it may be your last. • Turn formidable foes into worthy allies by recruiting them via negotiations, then fuse them to create demons customized to fit your playstyle. • Explore the expansive world of post-apocalyptic Tokyo, fully rendered in stunning 3D utilizing Unreal Engine 4, a first for the mainline Shin Megami Tensei series. "
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The news about Vengeance made my whole week
DUDE SAME!!!
I think the overall package here is very good. The side quests in this game are some of the most fun in the series. I will maintain that the main story in this game is my least favorite in the series. It just felt...unfinished. There are a lot of good ideas in this story, but most of them end up feeling half-baked by the end of the game. I would still encourage anyone who owns a switch to try the game out for themselves.
Idk if its my least favorite ...maybe tied with 3. But I 100000% agree about it being half baked. The ideas are great but need more fleshing out.
@@PelvicGaminghave you play smt 4 and 2 both also good
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I agree with the side quests, those were amazing! I was looking forward to talking with these random demons (especially the egypt group) more than with the humans in SMT5. What ruined the game for me was the main story though. I started this series with DS:Overclocked, went to SMT4 and after that Strange Journey and Persona 5. The stories of all of these games were A+ level. So after finishing Nocturne and SMT5 I was like "This is it?" Especially the story of the highly praised Nocturne was a huge disappointment for me compared to the masterpiece that is SMT4. Looking only on Gameplay, SMT5 is the clear winner. But if you look at storytelling, nothing beats SMT4. Honestly, if you haven't played it, do it now.
@@LadyIno I was never as bothered by the minimal story in Nocturne as other people, because it at least felt intentional there. Definitely not going to appeal to everyone and I respect that, but it didn't feel unfinished the way the story in 5 does.
Lady Pelvic predicting Vengeance :)
People hate SMT V?!, whoa, it was one of my favorite games i played in 2022
lol, my exact same reaction
Yeah some people really dislike the minimal story and characters
Even though it's a bit thin in the story, I love it for the gameplay, atmosphere, music, demon designs, one of my favorite switch games
It's a great game. I put over 300 awesome hours into it. I did start to get the feeling of "This should have been more", or "Wait, that was it?" I didn't feel that much at all for 3, 4, and 4a.
Gameplay was great.
But the story was terrible.
The story of SMTV felt like... the cliffnote's version of a first draft. But thankfully the gameplay is still top-tier. I really would wish for a more "complete" version to happen down the line.
Well maybe the rumored "Complete Edition" of the game is true.
@@ChadVigilante well maybe the complete edition(if it exists) could fix some of these issues. Most of the stuff mentioned doesn't bother me though I do hate the level scaling thing. Also it looks like there could be some new areas in between those level gaps. I mean a 20 level difference from one area to another does seem like something got cut.
@@ChadVigilantei beat the game without grinding, what do you mean forced grind? and the glory system isn’t bad because it pushes the player to explore, that’s basic world design if you’re making a bigger map you want to give people a reason to explore it or it remains unexplored. i’m not really sure how you claim buffs and debuffs for nerfed and does nothing for bosses too high when they’ve literally made or break a boss fight for me as i was under the boss level by at least 10 levels at most. hell in both 4 and 4A i barely felt the need to use buffs or debuffs since they drop off difficulty so early in, SJ is an example of something that required buffs more than the 4 games ever did. which isn’t to say they’re bad for it, hell 4 is my favorite entry but let’s be completely real with ourselves. calling 4A the best entry is funny as hell, but everyone’s allowed to have a favorite entry.
Well, Vengeance is coming...
Oh man, do I have news for you!
We are getting a updated rerelease: "Vengence" THIS JUNE....that supposedly addresses the complaints. The new content is an entire scenario/route that has its own new endings. ATLUS is very famous for pulling stunts like this though! 😅
Atlus is very famous for stunts like this BUT I am glad we are getting a definitive version!
Even if you don't personally like the direction of the music in SMT V, I think one has to agree that it is well composed. Kozuka definitely knows how to set tone and atmosphere. To me SMT V has the best music in the series.
I think 4 has the better battle themes generally, but 5 has the better area themes by far. Some people are all about the battle themes though and I get it, but still 5's battle themes usually go hard.
I agree, I think for me V has the best sound track. It just clicked for me and I felt each theme matched the tone of the part of the game it was in.
Tao’s theme is so good I swear it mismatches with the character herself. Those first 20 seconds are melancholic perfection!!
I still wish to one day see an updated version with a properly tied-up story and more character scenes. The gameplay is top-notch in my opinion, the areas are varied enough (get rid/rework the Demon castle puzzles though, they suck), the Demons are a blast and everything... but the story has obvious holes in terms of "more context is sorely needed".
Well even if the rumored "Complete Edition" is true, I doubt we will get everything we want.
Every time I see this criticism I just feel the urge to stir up the pot by saying... You mean like Nocturne?
Because I have the exact same problem with Nocturne's story. Hell, the reason everyone goes True Demon (which is an ending added on an updated release) is because otherwise the endings barely feel like endings.
Nocturne has a very loose story and the characters change at breakneck speed.
In both games (and I'd argue in every mainline SMT game besides the 4 duology), the most interesting characters are the demon NPCs you find during quests, but Nocturne and 5 in particular stand out as having weaker humans and story throughlines than the others.
I'm not saying either is bad, mind you, I like both games. It just boggles my mind Nocturne gets a free pass on everything 5 gets slammed for.
@@42Caio I didn't play Nocturne so I can't comment on that game at all. I can compare it to other games in the series that I played, like SMT4 or the DDS duology (we ain't talking Devil Survivor or the Persona series here) and the characters just feel underdeveloped compared to those games. The game picks up elements that lead to nowhere (forceful takeover of a human by a demon? Friendly human-demon coexistence? Critically underexplored) and the non-neutral route human members just feel like unnecessary extras.
I'm aware that according to many reviews Nocturne has the same issue with their route representatives, but whether that is the case or not doesn't defeat the criticism that is to be had about how SMT V handles the elements in my opinion.
(And then there's also SMT V coming out decades later during which I do think I can expect improvement from the devs)
@@larskaiser8131 No probem. The fanbase as a whole praises Nocturne to high heavens for its ~minimalistic storytelling~ and other stuff like that while blasting 5 for having a very similar structure, that's why I said that. Had no way of knowing you didn't play it. Still, build it and they will come, I expect someone to explain what's so different between the two soon enough.
The lack of exploration of the possibility of co-existence is my biggest problem with the game too. I don't think it's that under-explored by the quests, there are multiple questlines dedicated to that (the beefier being Khonsu's) but I feel the game lacks an ending addressing that. The fact doing all sidequests unlocks the Neutral variant ending where (SPOILERS) you wipe all gods and demons from existence(SPOILERS END) feel extremely contradictory after doing those quests. Feels almost like that and the regular Neutral end got swapped.
I don't think the forceful takeover of a human by their demon counterpart was under-explored at all, that was Sahori's storyline and there isn't really time or even characters to explore that happening again. I think it would feel repetitive. We see why it's not worth doing - Lahmu can't draw his true strenght as a God by doing that. Nahobino have to be willing fusions. I see it as setup for when the route representatives become Nahobino later in the game.
If you're leaving Devil Survivor out you have to let Avatar Tuner/DDS too, spin offs all the same. DDS is much more of a character story than any mainline SMT.
And yeah, 4 easily has the best character narratives in the mainline series, I agree (well, second best if we're counting Strange Journey as mainline - that game is forever in a gray area and Atlus can't seem to decide in definitive if it's mainline or not. I do consider it mainline), but honestly, I like the worldbuilding of 5 a lot more. I also agree it feels underdeveloped and wish there was more but not enough to completely ruin the game. I tend to be a lot less harsh on it because it had something 4 and 4Apocalypse were sorely missing - interesting demon characters. Not that there aren't any, but in 5 any random quest giver or side boss has something interesting going on, and I like the Daat being a world inhabithed by demons over the chaotic Tokyo(s) of 4 that were basically warzones, always in dispute.
As far as my preference goes I find the later more unique. But it definitely feels like crafting the Daat and creating these sidequests and demon interactions took the forefront over the main story.
Another thing that makes me love the setting and lore of 5 is that it takes a lot of concepts I liked from 4Apocalypse (the idea of replacing God, a polytheistic alliance, etc) and made them the focus of the game. I was more interested in that angle than the human characters and that definitely played a role in me not being that bothered by them, I think.
Though if we get an enhanced port, I am sure they will add all the DLC, 30+ new demons, a new ending, and maybe few optional places.
Another great review as always Pelvic. I remember playing the third or second one years ago on the PSP. I remember enjoying its uniqueness but its been quite awhile since I last touched a series like this though. I am definitely planning on giving it a try again.
I am not a fan of turn based feminine games but the story is interesting. 7 out of 10!
Girl you MUST be psychic. Are you excited about the new version?!
OH I AM FUCKING STOKED.
lol I just saw this after watching the new vengeance trailer. You must be hype af!
DUDE I AM THRILLED
@@PelvicGamingnow my dilemma is do I get for switch or go with the graphics update on ps5.
seeing your tweets in real time as you were playing was hilarious lol glad to see you enjoyed your SMTV journey overall
It was a JOURNEY let me tell you.
Awesome. I would also love to see an SMT V Apocalypse style game. There’s still so much they can do 🔥
I would love an Apocalypse style game but 1st I want SMT5 to get ported to PS4(and 5, PC, etc.).
well looks like both of you are getting what you asked for!! smt v vengeance looking nice 😎
Excellent review. Thank you for putting so much effort and quality into your videos. Happy New Year!
It’s nice to see this video getting so many views for you Pelvic! Have a happy new year!
It really is! Finally a banger! Happy new year!
My main problem with this game is that it presents a lot of cool ideas but mostly doesn't do anything with them. The foundation for an amazing story is there but left unutilized.
Luckly the gameplay is fenomenal as always, I had a lot of fun not only with the battles but also exploring the map and finding all the Miman.
I hope to play it one day if Atlus wants my money and releases it on PS4.
@@DragonKingX78 PS4 in 2024 ? maybe PS5
THe politeistic alliance was a wasted potential
@@DragonKingX78Fortunately for you, the new version is gonna be multiplatform 💖
not trying to be an ass but it's "phenomenal"
This game is one of my favourite JRPGs. I totally agree with the weaknesses you and others mention though 😅 I think if they had put as much thought into the main story as they did into the side quest story lines and demon negotiation dialogue, the game would have been as close to perfection as it could be. The exploration is so fun, as you said running around is so satisfying, and the combat system is just *chef's kiss*. I absolutely loved the music, although I don't have any other SMT game to compare it to so maybe that's why 😂 I hope SMT VI will get the main story right, but either way I'm looking forward to it 💪
I hope that the rumored "Complete Edition" is true and maybe will get a Apocalypse style game as well one day.
Itll be 2036 before we see SMT VI lol
I'm subbing! She eloquently presented SMT with style and little bit of sassiness that I like.
Oh thank you very much!
The worst part of the game is definitelly the level scaling, stats barely mean anything its all about the levels, demons start becoming obsolete quicker than on previous games
The exploration is pretty good and I hope they keep that for the future SMT games.
I heard the level scaling was bad and also heard that the enemies in the final area are around 20 levels higher then the previous one. Makes you think they scrapped an entire area in between.
Except Idun. Most broken demon in the entire game and stays like that in the entire run.
@@DragonKingX78 The final area is just less linear than the others, you start in the center of it, so you can much more easily find the stronger demons around and get bodied.
Nothing to do with a scrapped area however.
Thats true, the who has most level wins, this did'n hapen in previus gama, skills, resistences and weaknesses used to be the most important factors
Demons don't become obsolete at all, if anything this is the rare SMT game where just about anything is viable with investment. You can actually use your favorites if you want for the most part.
Great review!!! This was my first SMT and my game of the year 2021: 300hrs I was addicted. I played on hard and got the special ending. Despite the uneven/minor character development, I loved the world building.
Also the battle music against a Shiva is fire. There’s an 8 bit version on CZcams.
My first SMT game was Nocturne though my first Megaten games was Persona 1.
This is my first mainline SMT. I fell in love as soon as I heard that banging battle theme.
I just wish the story got more time to cook. I agree it had a lot of potential and I really liked where it was going and the world building.
I just wish the game was on my PS4 along with all the other SMT games.
I really enjoyed watching your SMT III - V journey! ❤ Hee-ho
Thanks for reviewing games like this far after their initial release! SMTV is a really special game to me and I talk about it with friends all the time. Now I have yet another reference to get people to wanna play it!
one of my all time favorite OSTs, the whole game is a vibe.
Girl you got me jamming to Dancing Crazy Murder lol, that song SLAPS!
Ayyyyy! I'm glad I turn ya on to it!
Looks like you are definitely getting more in couple of months! I should have waited, knowing Atlus.
I appreciated this review, great job Lady Pelvic
Here to support you. You the bomb ❤
shiva theme is amazing the beat drops as soon as he uses tandava so bad ass
🤯Im sorry but the OST is insane GOOD!!! I played this game last year, and I still regularly listen to it. I struggled a lot with the map actually and constantly couldn’t find routes, it was frustrating but I loved my over 200 hours of SMT5. Currently playing Persona5 Royal and stuck at the 5th Palace 😤😭 Great review as per usual. HNY too 🎉
Nice editing, Bao!
The battle system and map design are amazing and the soundtrack is banger. Always play the ost via Spotify when I am working out!
I hope to one day play it on my PS4....though the longer they take to port it, the less likely the PS4 will be an option.
I've had this game since forever but haven't gotten around to it yet. The music sounds incredible. Great review!
Story felt like an outline that they never got the chance to fill in, but I really enjoyed the gameplay and side quests and stuff. I wanted a "more adult" Pokemon with Demon's and I got it. It got me into the series and I've enjoyed older entries since. Even if old fans hate it, it's important to understand that if it at least does the basics well (gameplay for me), it can bring in new fans to the series which is good for longevity of a franchise.
I am sure I would like it if they released it on PS4....along with the rest of the SMT games.
Well thank you for helping bring Vengance into existence, ive been holding out on this one since launch cause i had to trust it be ported over eventually lol
This is straight-up the best review of SMTV I have ever seen. The level of detail! The nuance! 10/10.
Awh shucks. Thank you so much ♡
Just finished SMT 5. Great game! I was surprised by the boss levels on the last area too. I believe I was just below level 70 when I fought and beat Zeus lol. Anyways glad I got to see your review. You do a great job with your channel!
Yeah the boss levels are kinda wild. I had to be at least level 70!
Thank you for watching! Appreciate the kind words!
I have plenty of complaints about SMT V but I still enjoyed it, thank you for covering it! I love your videos
I chose Dazai in the end because he felt like an actual friend unlike Yuzuru and Koshimizu who felt like they were just using the main character to push their ideals
I mean, it's SMT. To me Dazai also felt like that. I ended up going with Yuzuru and Koshimizu because I thought their vision for the world was better than having anything to do with God's order.
Personally wish there was an ending where nothing changed, what if you like being demi-god in a nether world.
@@DragonKingX78 That's the "destroy the throne" ending, no? No one can ascend to God's place and the world remains the same way it was.
@@42CaioI never understood people choosing the fate of the whole universe based on "oh I like this guy better". I've seen a lot of people hating nocturne because the game doesn't give them a reason to like any of the characters so they feel like there's no good choice but they don't realize you're not choosing friends you're deciding the fate of the whole world. It's so weird.
I love your blue lipstick!! It looks so stylish.
12:58
Holy shit this review already predicted what was to come
I totally agree with your review about SMT V, and don't get me wrong, it's a great game, but I played it like a month after release, finished it, and felt like the game was missing something in the story or there were some references to SMT 3 but in the end they were just references.
At the time, all the reviews talked about what a great game it was, but no one said anything about this. At least, the reviews i found.
I searched and found a rumor that they had problems with the Unreal engine, that it took too long to get used to it and a lot of things were left out.
Anyway, great review. New subscriber here.
Oh man I agreed with all your comments EXCEPT the music. Which is amazing! Other than that, this is one of the first reviews which praises the game properly - I loved this game so much! I can understand the criticisms but I could do nothing but love it :D
I really enjoy this game! I hate to admit i took the time to level up every mix to 99 so far the music is amazing too i feel! The settings are really trippy and not boring at all! I to a break of gameplay after extreme 99 level up of all so far just before my battles, soon not yet experienced with Shiva/Krishna (sp ?) and Demi-Fiend invitation! I get lost trying to figure how to encounter them for battles .. thanks for your amazing fun review of this great to experience trippy game! Enjoy!
Great Review. Glad you liked it!
8:28 So we all just ignoring that Mara was asking a war elephant to ride him😟
It's beautiful. Also fun fact, they actually have history in mythology.
Happy new year Amber!!
I absolutely loved this game and went thru it twice, also bought the dlc was hoping on an expansion or new version.
More DLC is always nice, female main character option would be nice, PS4/5 ports would be nice, Apocalypse style game would be nice, etc.
Before I finish this review just to answer the question in the video title
I have so far played about a 150 ish hours of this game. My first play through I got all the high level Demons and I think I did most of the really prevalent story sidequests.
This game is very fun and it was nice to see an SMT game in HD. Collecting your overpowered Demons and abusing the game mechanics to win fights against bosses that have all intention to abuse you is so enjoyable.
The biggest issue with this game is by far the story. Most of the characters you meet do literally nothing for most of the plot and even when characters are with you for large portions of the game like Tao; I can't say that they go through some sort of life-changing character arc that leaves anything memorable with the player.
A lot of concepts are introduced 70 percent of the way through the game that feels like they should have been shown off and been made important from the very beginning.
With this games storytelling it feels like they tried to make it SMT4 and SMT3 at the same time. They could not decide if we were going to have a big cast of characters that's used to tell the story or if the characters were going to take a back seat to the immersive world.
This causes the story to feel very hollow even though some of the most absurd stuff in SMT is happening on screen
TL:DR Great game badly executed story.
If there is one thing I learned from SMT5 it is that Jeannie Tirado (voice actress of Tao) is absolutely perfect for divinity. I've seen her in a few different roles in various anime but her voice acting for Tao really stood out to me.
Missed your videos!!!!
I liked it but got really burnt out at 40 hours and dropped it, felt like the story didn’t keep me compelled enough to keep playing, and that the loop of gameplay was getting repetitive. The combat systems difficulty was honestly really refreshing though, probably up there with my top battle systems ever. Maybe one day I’ll go back and beat it.
This was a great review. If you get the true neutral ending I’d like to know what you thought about the quest line. Fingers crossed we get a smt 5 A in the next few years
Would like a SMT5 Apocalypse style game but first I want SMT5 on my PS4(I don't care if it is an enhanced version or a direct port).
Happy New (upcoming) Year, everyone 🎉🎊🧧🐲
I haven't finished the game yet, but I really like it. ESPECIALLY I find the school uniform one of the prettiest in the franchise ❤
The typical SMT gameplay is fun in 3, 4, Apocalypse and it's fun here as well. The combat and fusion is fantastic.
5's premise is fantastic. Just hearing it gets you pumped. God was killed and now the lesser gods, Zeus, Odin and such, can finally break out and reassert themselves. Angels are trying to reclaim the throne and restore order, Satan wants there to be total freedom (which is chaotic. No rules sounds great until you realize that it leads to disorder). Awesome, I'm on board.
But you can tell by the end that the story doesn't live up to what's presented. SMT5 was announced at the premier of the Switch and it took years to get to us. With the story being what it is, you can guess that there were development troubles. It seems like the story got lost in the shuffle, especially considering Yuzuru's demon, Hayataro, is prominently displayed at the start of the story and even in marketing but doesn't really do much of anything by the end of the game, even with taking Yuzuru's route.
Yeah, the game clearly had a lot production issues....would love to know what went on behind the scenes.
Doi mentioned that Hayataro was originally going to be the first demon you recruit and you could ride them and stuff but they had to scrap that idea due to technical limitations. Also, they were going to be more important but that wasn't realized due to story changes. So development troubles would be a good guess.
@@techno-- yeah, makes you wonder what their original vision would have looked like completed.
I got this for Christmas last year and have yet to play it, cuz my roommates hog the Switch or have it in their room the whole time. I’ve heard mixed reviews on the game. I would like to try it. If I hate it, I hate it. If I don’t, I don’t. It is what it is. Your reviews have always been honest and genuine, and that’s what gives me hopes for potential titles to play. On a side note, P5T is pretty good. Almost makes me want to give Digimon Survive another chance. Almost.
And dare I say? Looking wonderful and beautiful, milady.
great video! i bought the game, but i haven’t given it a try yet… youve made me more interested
nailed it. Also, can't wait for the steam version. I haven't played my switch since I got my steam deck, and I'm itching to have this on steam.
This review is very detailed. Ty.
I got this game around launch but gave up pretty early on, despite loving SMT IV. This review makes me think it may be time for another shot 🤔
As my first SMT game I feel I probably give it more credit than most but V was my GOTY for 2022. Story is definitely undercut but I love just about every idea it puts forth. Like even Atsuta, for as undercooked as he is, has a cool arc in concept. Like even outside the dedicated true neutral sidequest revolving around her his sister has a staggering amount of dialogue that frequently changes throughout the story. I truly feel there’s a great story here but most of it doesn’t play out for us. And any lack thereof, the demons you talk to and the quests you undergo with/for them give the world enough character to drive the experience anyway.
The one thing about the gameplay that makes it a little harder to go back in the SMT pipeline is the ease of access with essences, gospels, dampeners, and elemental items. Like the game will ground you to dust sometimes but the tools you have just make it so much easier to dedicate that runback into true vengeance on whoever messed with you. Yeah I rambled on a bit but I maintain V slaps and I’m glad you took it for what it was in the review.
The important part of a game is that you had fun.
First of all, I just found this video on accident when I was searching about JRPGs and this was dope I subscribed. Second though, I’ve played pokemon since it came out, now I’m looking for something else should I start with SMT or Persona? I’ve heard people say the battling and sht is better in SMT
I start this every now and then because it kicks ass. I have fun with the combat system but I used so many healing items just for the Tokyo Tower boss 😭
commenting to up the exposure so Pelvic can break 50K asap!
Yess thank you!!
I'd love to try this one if it wasn't just on Switch smh. Here's hoping if they release a SMTV-A version of the game, it's released on multiple platforms! I got into the Devil Summoner games on PS2 and really enjoyed them, this seems something very similar to it.
LONG TIME NO SEE!!! Now I will watch the review. Edit: Must I play prior SMT titles to enjoy this one?
Not at all!
Really appreciate the fact that you properly went through the characters' development and story aspects. Not many reviews out there did. Totally agreeing on SMT IV being better, even if it was a bit limited by the 3ds hardware.
I'm really hoping that the rumours about an enhanced port are real, because what we got was good but so little. Its also a really beautiful game held back by the switch just like bayonetta 3
I hope the rumors are true as well. I hope they add at least 30 new demons, new area(s) to explore, some quality of life improvements, all the DLC, and some more story stuff.....Also would love a female main character option.
Anybody who hates this is just entitled and a goof. You can dislike it but straight up hating it makes no sense
Game kicks ass. Helped get me into Atlus’ stuff. Something about the combat just clicked for me
I do love the press turn system.
You make this game sound amazing 👏
Speaking as a hardcore SMT fan who has played everything (Yes, everything) in the series, I LOVED 5. It was the perfect middle ground between SMT4's story-focused approach, and SMT3's combat-focused approach. I consider it the sweet spot for the series. I especially liked the way the true ending opens up for some DLC....which I guess never will happen.
The only mainline SMT game I have played is SMT3 Nocturne....really wish the rest of the series was on PS4/5(and everything else).
I just beat it 2 days ago and it was my first SMT game and it was really cool
Oh that's lovely to hear~! If you love SMT 5, and want more story I cannot express how much you should play SMT 4! AMAZING game!
well dear. gaming gods heard your wish, and u have been nice, so its christmas now 😂
We have been blessed!!
12:23 well its not A but we got a V for Victory! we won!@@PelvicGaming
I loved V overall, but my biggest problem was the way the ending you got wasn't tied to the player's alignment like in past entries. One of the things I love about SMT is how your choices and alignment shape what the ending is and the way the in-game world becomes, and the way V strips that away really rubbed me the wrong way.
It was a very weird choice...
I'm glad to hear more folks enjoyed this game as they look back, it just seems like everyone sides with the "new is bad" which doesn't help because of nostalgia addiction these days.
Completely agree. When this first came out all I heard was negativity. And while has its short comings I ultimately enjoyed my time with it!
So I'm about to try this game coming over from persona never played any smt would this be a good start for me
the game clearly needed another area before the superboss fight, damage is heavily relied on level difference and I needed to seriously grind in the same area from 75 to level 90 so i can have a chance with shiva to get true neutral ending
This was my first SMT game. I loved the combat and difficulty. But the story and environments were forgettable and dull.
Still enjoyed the game but was carried by the combat
Something that I was managed to complete it unlike FE engage
I gotta get back to playing the “persona without the heart” game lol side quest and collecting has been killing my gameplay. I accidentally overleveled and I’m still somewhere in the first part.
Think or start with 4 or 5 or maybe vengeance as I only just heard about this series like just now and it looks great
the BUTT lol this was actually my first enjoyable SMT game, glad you liked it too! I wish they do better with character developments D:
Me and you both! But I hope for an expanded re-release! Cause the outline is there!
That level-up theme. 🔥
I liked it a lot.The only thing i didn't like is how easily you can miss the true ending.I was saved from an older save.I beat the game i see the ending and i started to freak out.I see that i had an older save before the ending lock and went back to find the missing and well hidden quest.
I haven't finished it yet, but I'm nearing the end, in Ueno area collecting the keys. So far, despite it being wildly different exploration wise than what I'm used to, I've been really enjoying it! A few hours into the game I thought "hmm I haven't gotten to any dungeons yet" before realising that in fact everything in Da'at is the dungeon, at which point I literally yelled out "THEY'VE TRICKED ME INTO PLAYING AN OPEN WORLD GAME" (one of my least favourite genres lol). I've found myself getting lost CONSTANTLY because I can't read a map for shit, but that's definitely a me problem ^^; the vantage points help this a lot though! Very early on I did also notice the similarity between Da'at and the Vortex World of SMT 3, and became more interested in the world itself. After small interactions with various demons talking about what happened 18 years ago it clicked that I was right- Nocturne was released 18 years before SMT V. I was so excited by that revelation since Nocturne is one of my favourite games of all time - w- The game is not without faults- you're very right about Dazai getting so much more screen time, and how his character changes so suddenly (although the sudden change is very SMT like tbh), and I thought we'd get more about Miyazu tbh. The game is choppy in parts, and would probably run better on a PS4 I think (also still feels like a weird decision to make it a Switch exclusive). I'm (probably pointlessly) waiting for an SMT V Royal/Golden/Maniax/Reload/whatever, but I feel that is unlikely. Also a little side note- thank you for not including the endings in your review! I have a vague idea of how they'll be based on my experience with SMT 3, but I don't fully know and I'm so glad you didn't spoil it :)
Have you tried the smt spinoff Devil Survivor? It came out on ds and got ported to 3ds. It's fantastic.
I don't know of any game Atlus could announce that I'd want to see them make more than Devil Survivor 3.
@@LuminousXMI I would love a Digital Devil Saga 3 with a new cast but keep the combat/skill systems.
OST and combat makes up for the story so I love SMT V
Loved my time with this game.. i miss it and want to play through it again some day..
This needs expanded version with graphics update(at least 60 fps mode) and it's honestly my favourite jrpg on switch, the ost just makes this unique atmosphere
Well hopefully the rumored "Complete Edition" is true.
SMT Cinco had great game play and decent exploration. Story was a mixed bag and like you I share your sentiments on a rerelease of the game with extra content. Put that joint on everything and it probably would sell decent.
I liked SMT 5 for the presentation, and I felt like the exploration elements and combat were all enjoyable, but I think the story needed more time in the oven. There's good elements there. It just feels like there should have been more. Like, it feels like some important bits were left on the cutting room floor or something, y'know? But not a bad game overall.
SMT4 is still my favorite tho
I am sure we will get some kind of Maniax/Royal/Ultimate edition one day.
"I would go so far as to say I want an SMT V A sort of deal!"
... Wishes do come true my friends.
The gaming Gods have answered my prayers! ♡
SMTV is really good, I hope that they do an extended version at some point in the future
I hope that rumored "Complete Edition" is true.
I really liked and appreciated this game. I felt it was an example of a more “technical” JRPG, in which a far more older school approach lay underneath the graphics and audio. The music and sound was fantastic for me, with a very distinct mood and identity - gritty, post apocalyptic, otherworldly, dusty feeling almost. I gave up close to the end of the game, but was deep in this world for months, and it was one of my favourite games of 2022. Relentless and punishing, and very technical, and leaves a lot to the player’s imagination. The narrative unfolded in the mechanics, and like a book or board game, many things had to be put together in your own mind rather than in the game itself. Moments where the world shone through, like in surprise demon to demon dialogue, really had a strong impact for me. Was so nice to see this reviewed - thank you!
SMT V got so close to that vibe of 1 or 3 where all is lost, a sort of true apocalyptic feeling. That and the mind blowing music made it my fav SMT as the gameplay flows so much better than in any other SMT game - tho I still wish they’d have another stab at that 90s cyberpunk & dark vibe of the first games.
They could do the 90's cyberpunk stuff for spinoff games like a remake of Soul Hackers(with SMT5's graphics) a Digital Devil Saga 3 could go cyberpunk, or just a remake of SMT 1 or 2(also with SMT5's graphics), or maybe a new IP all together.
I would probably play this despite what people say is a meh story with meh characters, but that's mostly just cause I like what I played of SMT4. Probably helps that I also have been recently playing Etrian Odyssey 4, and that series isn't exactly known for it's plot either (Tho it *is* there).
Well hopefully the rumored SMT 5 "Complete Edition" is true.
Would buy in a heart beat
@@PelvicGaming have you played the Digital Devil Saga games?
Wow Dancing Crazy Murder is a bop!
I completed Persona 2 years ago and started SMT I, but it’s brutal. I’ll probably try this one when I forget how frustrated these games made me feel!
Personally, I'd never put it in SMT's fault to not deliver insane character dynamics in it's stories because it isn't what their stories call for, but indeed, the piece meal story does feel at times like it should be supplemented with more interactive moments from your allies than we end up getting.
Nothing to say about on the gameplay and music front really because both are as usual fantastic.
The exploration and navigating through the zones is also one of my favorite part of this game and is prolly the single most important element that make me appreciate this one more than some other in the series.
Yeah SMT isn't about characters, it's about how much people suck, that everyone's ideals are flawed, and maybe to a lesser extend imperfect beings can't create anything perfect.