Which EV is Better? | 2022 Panamera e-Hybrid
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The 2022 Porsche Panamera 4 e-Hybrid Platinum Edition is more than a long name. It's a plug-in performance sedan (ok hatchback) that promises a commute as quick or as quiet as you like. In a world dominated by fast EVs, is there a place for a fast plug-in?
$115,000 base, $127,000 as tested.
2.9-liter twin-turbo V6 / E-machine
455HP @ 5400RPM / 516lb-ft of torque @ 1800RPM
8-speed automatic transmission.
AWD
5,000lbs
52MPG combined (battery + engine) highway, 22MPG gas only
RANGE: 18 miles according to the EPA. Gas range is 506 miles highway.
0-60: 3.4s
CHARGING RATE:
- 240V is 3 hours.
- On a 110 outlet: Level 1 takes 10-12 hours
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Totally agree with you that we need more Plug in Hybrids than we have. EV for daily commute and have gas for road trips.
“Like Charlie Sheens table….uh….a little dusty” 😂
I like the high production quality on this video.
The quality of this video is noticeably higher, great production Zack!
I love Zacks individual reviews
No. No. No.
I prefer Matt's solo reviews
@@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 same
Great commentary Zach! 👍🏻
Here in old continent we typically have car taxes based on CO2 emissions, so the most popular Panamera is the e-Hybrid.
Yeah, oddly the Taycan starts cheaper than a Panamera which is counter intuitive as EVs tend to be more costly than equivalent petrol cars.
Nice insights . Nice review. Thank you
nice video, sweet panerai!
Good voice. Great report. Thanks good job
3.4secs 0-60 AND over 50mpg…. Amazing…. Just a shame Porsche haven’t updated the looks of the Panamera to make it as attractive as the Taycan :(
The Taycan design works because it’s much smaller and lower to the ground. There is very little usable space in it. Panamera much more useable for an “everything” car.
Wow. What a great review! Can I have more reviews like this?
glugglugglul?
No.
@@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549 haha!
A big thanks for mentioning the mpg . It is important. Most reviews of hybrids totally ignore this especially with high priced cars. It’s not just about the cost of petrol. It’s about emissions of CO2.
Did Zack get married? If so, congrats.
Digging the additions to your videos. Hope the extra work translates to views.
Ring is on the wrong hand, wedding rings go on your left ring finger, unless this is a RHD car with the video flipped he has it on his right hand.
@@flacjacket not in every culture though. I mean, you’re probably right but left hand isn’t a rule for everyone.
I’m picking up my panamera 4s e-hybrid next week! Can’t wait
I already spec'ed out my Porsche Panamera 4S e-hybrid. The perfect colors both inside and out, the perfect interior of saddle brown and black dash just what "I" want! Total, $163K large! Just waitin on that lottery to come thru!
I love the performance hybrid concept, the 2nd gen NSX was flawed but I dug its concept a lot, the 296 is the most exciting Ferrari to me since the FF. I know from experiencing the Prius plug-in that it doesn't take many miles of EV-only range to become many, many miles of ICE/EV-blended driving that has good torque feel and economy all at once. It's such a smart way to go IMO, well worth a few hundred pounds in batteries and electrical gubbons for the benefits you get. I second some other commenters who want this to happen in 911s/Boxsters/etc. Plug-in performance hybrids deserve to take the 2020s by storm, hopefully it happens!
It's funny how NSX was ahead of its time.
The 296 doesn't get better mileage because the hybrid, please. Neither does the NSX, all the hybrid nonsense did was make the car heavier, more complicated and less fun. Twin-turbo engines don't need more torque. The hybrid in this Panamera is better though because it actually has mpg benefits due to the larger plug-in battery, but for supercars where lightness and agility is what matters, adding battery power is just an engineering exercise with no real upside.
@@TML34 This video 1000% disagrees with you, since the highway mileage is better than double with EV charge than without on this car, and I know from experience you get about 30 more MPG when you plug in a plug-in Prius versus just driving it around on gas. Physics also makes it clear that there is ~6x more energy loss in ICEs than with EVs, electric power wins hands-down on efficiency by a mile. The NSX and 296 weren't fuel economy focused in their calibrations but they still gave more performance for less fuel, and the physics of hybrids completely disagrees with your ignorant opinion.
My Cayenne Hybrid is built and waiting for a boat to come to the US. I Can’t wait. The hybrid power train is perfect for the Cayenne.
the maximum acceleration is only achieved when the batteries are at 100%
@@PaulTC777 Have you actually done testing on this?
@@joetacchino4470 Ive tested it on a different hybrid car, a Peugeot 508 306hp hybrid by Peugeot Sport. It went from 5" 0-60 to 7'5". If you do lots of city driving (stop and go) the battery is constantly being charged so don't worry, you will always have the acceleration when you need it.
I have this one and the Taycan GTS love both excellent cars
3.4 0-60 seems like its for the GTS or S E Hybrid.. I would double check that figure. Still quick and still interested in this vehicle. Porsche website says around 4.2 secs. Still great!
You are correct, but Porsche always understate their times. It’s probably 3.9
well executed plug in hybrid a the best for many. When you buy a pure ev you are mostly paying for a supply problem with mining and battery production.
I've always loved this car . Beautiful
This is a great daily and if I wasn't looking for the RS3 as a daily then this car would be on my list. I just like smaller nimble cars even in my daily but surely it's a great car.
I’m surprised Bose didn’t incorporate noise canceling.
I remember the utter panic I had the first time I saw the rev counter just go dead cruising on the highway :-) - sail mode, waaaaah!
I couldn't agree more. Plug in hybrids are the answer and need to be more common.
I still think BMW did an awesome job on the i8, nearly 10 years ago. Full electric mode up to 70mph and a great zippy 1.5 engine. For £50k that’s my choice at the moment. Nice video, awesome car
It’s great if you only need two seats.
1:11 those sidewalls had really hard life!
Life of presscar 😂 Porsche “ *CPO* ” “ *ONLY 3700” miles* “
Actual status: beaten and put up wet.
Agree with the rear-wheel steering!
Ya I've got in on my 992 and it's hard to go back once you've experienced it.
pointless option. just another thing to go wrong.
Once you have rear wheel steering you can’t go back
KLAAPPPPPMAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN for the W on the review.
"Looks like Charlie Sheen's table..."
I spit out my coffee.
PHEV sporty cars FTW!
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I hate adaptive cruise, always set it to regular cruise control. I can see and will slow down when needed , I don't want to drop from 75 to 65 because the car 100yds away is going 65. I guess at 40 I'm old cause I just don't understand the usefulness of adaptive cruise control. Cancel and resume were enough.
Why do all the cars you test have Florida plates if your in California?
Is that a Weiss watch I see on your wrist? 👀
Indeed! My favorite.
@@TheSmokingTire Great choice! I love my American Issue 42mm and I'm hoping to pick up a 38pm Standard with Date in the next couple years 👍
The Sport Turismo version is somehow even more in "a competition of one."
I'll wait for next generation 2024
0-60 is not 3.4s but 4.3s :)
Plug in hybrid sport cars will be a thing for a while.
I want a hybrid 911.
It's coming! One day...
@@TheSmokingTire It will probably be the first 2-ton 911 as well.
why? so it can be heavier, less agile and cost more?
@@TML34 because its cool, and i like the green brakes.
@@dantem306 The only thing I notice is how weird it feels, it's not confidence inspiring to me.
I have a 04 M3 and plan on keeping it forever. I have left it to a good friend in my will.
Does he know that he is in the will?
Zach rules
They’re really expensive (as most cars are here in Aus) but they depreciate nicely and it makes them a bargain compared to a 911. I keep having rude thoughts about them but am just a bit wary about maintenance costs in a used one. But there’s an older model supercharged hybrid (non Phev) which they only did for a couple of years which looks good. Kids are at home for 8 more years yet! I can get dogs in or a bike in with the seats down and its not an SUV. The lift back is a rarity. Although hof course a Kia Stinger does the same thing and is a way more sensible option (minus the hybrid) but cheaper and with a warranty but a Kia badge. Ho hum I don’t know! Good review Zac 👍
Depreciation is significant and likely to increase over the next year as used car prices continue to decline. Tack on an aftermarket warranty you've got a great worry-free car!
@zackklapman too much gesticulating, I can't see what watch you're wearing. 😉
I still don't get the purpose of the hybrid system. Everything this car does it can do without the added hybrid cost and complication.
Wind noise is comparable to my 2007 Honda civic 😂
Weird that this one is heavier than a Tesla Model S Plaid. Hybrids are difficult to make light I guess. Ask Formula One :)
Lol someone has exceeded the useable surface area on those front tires.
My parents bought a new Buick in 68 it cost less than the paint on that Porsche..
Offcourse theTaycan is better, but ah well, at least this is a plug in.
And then there is also the Panamera Turbo S e-Hybrid
Those ps4s look sad 😂
Exactly. Weight is ALWAYS bad news for tyres.
Car company should be investing more into hybrid instead going full ev u get the best for both world with hybrid ev is like going cold trukey
That’s exactly Toyota’s approach (with a side of goofy hydrogen vehicles). Hence why they’ve been dragging their feet on EVs.
Except a hybrid is not the best of both
Best of both or worst of both lies in the criteria... From an ecological standpoint, performance hybrids like this are not much of an improvement (especially considering that most plug in hybrid owners barely ever charge them). Heavy and high CO2 impact in production like an EV, not amazing efficiency like a ICE car.
For econoboxes like a prius, Hybrids can come out great, but if you actually want higher power too, I don't think EV's are beatable (from a CO2 impact perspective).
Electric cars will NEVER work...
Can you EVER see a $2000 elec??? NOPE!
This is a hybrid bozo
🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Of course you will. Only thing your getting for 2k in this market is a clapped shit box with a laundry list of issues.
okay boomer
Lol
We have a few years at best. French revolution style. Head's will be lopped off. Have fun while you can.
@@psyker4321 probably right my friend. German's rule.
@@psyker4321 If we see that kind of inflation, I'll be selling my M3 for $4M. Enough to buy one carrot!