Hi Eric, I changed my aspect ratio on the channel eventually so it fits 1920x1080p. Unfortunately I recorded all my old tutorials on a 35" screen so didn't have them in a friendly ratio. Any video from September 9th onwards is at a friendlier ratio for viewing.
@@AussieBIMGuru I can say, your tips and the way handling revit as modelling software amaze me. You deserve more views... Hope you will describe best practice of door family sometimes, with nested and swappable frame and leaf, like do i need one multipupurpose door family, or multiple door family? Things like that. Your tutorial help us in lot of ways, please keep up the good work regardless hundred views (and still growing) on your channel. Wish you all the best, Sir...
@@syafiqsaifullah7839 thanks so much, that's OK the channel will grow over time. Only began in March so I'm amazed at how fast it's grown already (almost 2k subs!). A couple of my more widespread videos are heading towards 2K views as well, seems to vary by software I think... A door family series is on my list, probably for the new year in January. I will cover nested leaf control and hardware control also. I tend to avoid using label parameters due to type table issues (wrong value loads from type tables often for labels) so there'll be some strategies in there that should be interesting for sure. Welcome to the channel community, look forward to hearing from you in future videos :)
Another question: You say hosted elements are not possible to integrate in this, but most families of toilets for example are wall hosted, is there any workaround that you know to be able to use them? What have you done in your accessible bathroom example?
I never actually use wall hosted families, that's my solution unfortunately. A majority of my families are workplane based with a standard template as the starting point.
@@AussieBIMGuru I believe you, so I would also stop using them if possible. But since sometimes you download something from a manufacteur it would really meaning rebuilding the family, as you can't just "unhost" it... Not a perfect solution I see, but still more pros than cons.
@@AussieBIMGuru Is this the method you usually follow? knowledge.autodesk.com/search-result/caas/simplecontent/content/convert-hosted-family-to-face-based-or-non-hosted-family-revit.html I tried just now with a plumbing fixture family, and it just won't copy it... Is it maybe because they used an Import inside the family?
Not 100% sure about that trick. In this case my method is for specifically face based families to nonhosted. I create an element to rehost it to as nested. No good method for hosted families though like wall based that I know of, I just start fresh for those (and copy geometry where possible).
Love the video. Love the cat :P Wish I knew this back in my first professional Revit project when doing a school, because all those classrooms would be so much easier to do. In terms of BIM though would this be a problem? because you then have multiple elements under generic model... so for collaboration or even just to switch on/off certain categories within how would that work? For things like accessible bathroom what I started doing was reusable groups with things in the right places, distances, etc as a starting point. Any con you might think of using this approach? Thanks Gavin! Now, go feed the cat or he will seek revenge ;D
The cats probably have more fans than me haha! In this case I make sure all my nested families are set to 'Shared' in their properties. This means that each nested family doesn't really belong to the host family, the host family just positions them and sets their instance parameters. It sources the family definition at the project level. Because of this these elements don't belong to generic models. If they are not set to shared then they will belong to the super family though - this would be a mistake. Groups are OK, but they became an issue I find on projects (trying to ungroup themselves), and it is easier to store families in a library for reload vs using groups.
@@AussieBIMGuru Well, the cats didn't teach me anything yet so... still you :D Thanks for explaining the importance Shared nested families. I'll make sure to do that.
@@AussieBIMGuru i have my main generic model family with nested electrical fixture & lighting fixtures (they are set to shared) but i cant see their annotation in the project. why?
The question is: Once this Super Room.RFA imported into A PROJECT.RVT file, is there a way to created a Equipment schedule within the project file and map where an specific equipment coming from OR which .RFA file these Nested Contents are coming from? In other words, Is there a way to create a Multi-Category Schedule for a .RFA file imported to revit.rvt that has nested Families inside AND Knowing where these Nested Contents are coming from?
Yes there are a few ways this could be done, one would be to so a multicategory schedule with a filter by room assuming all elements falll within one. The other would be to use dynamo to check their host family, then set a field such as comment to bulk fill this with common data for filtering.
Hello, thank you for the good information. Can I create a new group of parameters that the family has? For example, I would like to create new unique parameters such as configuration, structure, dimensions, system, and identity data.
Unfortunately Revit limits us to the 20 or so groups it provides by default. Additional parameters can be added under these groups as either project or shared parameters. Typically I work with identity data for coding, text for authoring data, visibility for on/off, other for formula driven fields, constraints for primary dimensions, dimensions for minor ones and analysis for analytical properties. I find this has worked well for me to date - consistency is key.
Super families can't support nesting if wall/ceiling hosted elements as these elements dont exist in this level of the family vs project, maybe this is why?
My company has been using super families for a while now. Highly recommend it.
Yeah they save a lot of time, especially for standard rooms and equipment control.
For your "revit family creation" tuturial could you zoom in the computer to full screen?
Hi Eric, I changed my aspect ratio on the channel eventually so it fits 1920x1080p. Unfortunately I recorded all my old tutorials on a 35" screen so didn't have them in a friendly ratio. Any video from September 9th onwards is at a friendlier ratio for viewing.
Glad found your channel, auto-subscribe! Hope to see more tutorial and tips from you, Sir...
Thanks Syafiq, glad you enjoyed the content! Usually upload new vids every monday/thursday - much more to come!
@@AussieBIMGuru I can say, your tips and the way handling revit as modelling software amaze me. You deserve more views...
Hope you will describe best practice of door family sometimes, with nested and swappable frame and leaf, like do i need one multipupurpose door family, or multiple door family? Things like that.
Your tutorial help us in lot of ways, please keep up the good work regardless hundred views (and still growing) on your channel. Wish you all the best, Sir...
@@syafiqsaifullah7839 thanks so much, that's OK the channel will grow over time. Only began in March so I'm amazed at how fast it's grown already (almost 2k subs!). A couple of my more widespread videos are heading towards 2K views as well, seems to vary by software I think...
A door family series is on my list, probably for the new year in January. I will cover nested leaf control and hardware control also. I tend to avoid using label parameters due to type table issues (wrong value loads from type tables often for labels) so there'll be some strategies in there that should be interesting for sure.
Welcome to the channel community, look forward to hearing from you in future videos :)
@@AussieBIMGuru With pleasure, kind Sir...
Another question: You say hosted elements are not possible to integrate in this, but most families of toilets for example are wall hosted, is there any workaround that you know to be able to use them? What have you done in your accessible bathroom example?
I never actually use wall hosted families, that's my solution unfortunately.
A majority of my families are workplane based with a standard template as the starting point.
@@AussieBIMGuru I believe you, so I would also stop using them if possible. But since sometimes you download something from a manufacteur it would really meaning rebuilding the family, as you can't just "unhost" it... Not a perfect solution I see, but still more pros than cons.
@@marianaarodrigues1 yes i typically rebuild or rehost manufacturer families to faces/workplanes where possible in a standard template.
@@AussieBIMGuru Is this the method you usually follow? knowledge.autodesk.com/search-result/caas/simplecontent/content/convert-hosted-family-to-face-based-or-non-hosted-family-revit.html
I tried just now with a plumbing fixture family, and it just won't copy it... Is it maybe because they used an Import inside the family?
Not 100% sure about that trick. In this case my method is for specifically face based families to nonhosted. I create an element to rehost it to as nested. No good method for hosted families though like wall based that I know of, I just start fresh for those (and copy geometry where possible).
Great stuff
Thanks!
Love the video. Love the cat :P
Wish I knew this back in my first professional Revit project when doing a school, because all those classrooms would be so much easier to do.
In terms of BIM though would this be a problem? because you then have multiple elements under generic model... so for collaboration or even just to switch on/off certain categories within how would that work?
For things like accessible bathroom what I started doing was reusable groups with things in the right places, distances, etc as a starting point. Any con you might think of using this approach?
Thanks Gavin! Now, go feed the cat or he will seek revenge ;D
The cats probably have more fans than me haha!
In this case I make sure all my nested families are set to 'Shared' in their properties. This means that each nested family doesn't really belong to the host family, the host family just positions them and sets their instance parameters. It sources the family definition at the project level. Because of this these elements don't belong to generic models. If they are not set to shared then they will belong to the super family though - this would be a mistake.
Groups are OK, but they became an issue I find on projects (trying to ungroup themselves), and it is easier to store families in a library for reload vs using groups.
@@AussieBIMGuru Well, the cats didn't teach me anything yet so... still you :D
Thanks for explaining the importance Shared nested families. I'll make sure to do that.
@@AussieBIMGuru
i have my main generic model family with nested electrical fixture & lighting fixtures (they are set to shared) but i cant see their annotation in the project.
why?
Nested components dont show annotations, revit bug. Root level family only supports it in main model.
The question is: Once this Super Room.RFA imported into A PROJECT.RVT file, is there a way to created a Equipment schedule within the project file and map where an specific equipment coming from OR which .RFA file these Nested Contents are coming from? In other words, Is there a way to create a Multi-Category Schedule for a .RFA file imported to revit.rvt that has nested Families inside AND Knowing where these Nested Contents are coming from?
Yes there are a few ways this could be done, one would be to so a multicategory schedule with a filter by room assuming all elements falll within one.
The other would be to use dynamo to check their host family, then set a field such as comment to bulk fill this with common data for filtering.
Hello, thank you for the good information.
Can I create a new group of parameters that the family has?
For example, I would like to create new unique parameters such as configuration, structure, dimensions, system, and identity data.
Unfortunately Revit limits us to the 20 or so groups it provides by default. Additional parameters can be added under these groups as either project or shared parameters.
Typically I work with identity data for coding, text for authoring data, visibility for on/off, other for formula driven fields, constraints for primary dimensions, dimensions for minor ones and analysis for analytical properties. I find this has worked well for me to date - consistency is key.
@@AussieBIMGuru Thank you always!
It helped me a lot.
I am having trouble adding in electrical fixtures to my super family. Any tips?
Super families can't support nesting if wall/ceiling hosted elements as these elements dont exist in this level of the family vs project, maybe this is why?