In situation where OV was crossing a CBD in a narrow channel where you said as per rule 18 we have to keep clear of the CBD , but rule 18 starts by saying "except where rules 9,10 and 13 otherwise require" so is it right to say that we are taking action in a narrow channel as per rule 18? Please give a reply
As per rule 18 we are obliged to not impede the safe passage of the cbd. It is not saying that we should keep clear, but once roc established rule 8f i, ii, iii comes into play. And it would be taken as a normal crossing citustion bw 2 pd vessels. And the vsl which on her stbd side should take action. Weather it is in a tss or not. It doesnt matter. The term not impede especially refers when the roc is not established. Its like you take a action as soon as you see the cbd vessel. And after assessing the action and still roc exists then rule 8f. Just because of this rule it does not relieve the obligation of the vessel not to impede the vessel in channel or tss. And the term keep clear clearly states if roc exists. If furthur confusion persists, you can see capt.anil bhatia video about rule 8f. Its clearly given in it.
Brother... It is not like the rule 18 doesnt apply in narrow channel. Its only that the rules in 9 will override rules of 18.rule 18 still applies. In rule 9 there is no where mentioned the vessel should keep clear. It is only about impeding. Be specific about the terminology.
2:29 come to xte extremity to stbd, re assess the situation, if still roc exist, inform master & vts and enter ITZ as per 10.d(ii). Alternatively if eng available reduce speed
5:15 as per rule 9d A vessel shall not cross a narrow channel or fairway if such crossing impedes the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within such channel or fairway.
No rule 18 actually says except where rules 9, 10 and 13 otherwise require. Normally, pdv shall keep clear of sailing vessels and fishing vessels but as rule 9 otherwise requires sailing vessels and fishing vessels to keep clear of a pdv (assuming she can only nanvigate safely within the narrow channel or fairway). So, the latter shall be applied. Other than that, rule 18 applies in a narrow channel.
@@atlantianpawanharyana1005 ok i can understand, but u can give voice over with screenshots in background. it will be useful....something is better than nothing..thank you
Brother in c.l dubey situation he has given the situation in a close range of between 1-3 miles because if the situation is between vessel having difference of long ranges then we would have altered to stbd before the situation even existed and hence we would have kept clear
Brother one question, in case of restricted visibility how can take series of bearings and ascertain risk of Collision. Rule 19 specifically applies to vessels not in sight of one another. Just wanted to clarify this statement
One situation u discussed here about CBD vessel our port side ... In this situation who is give way and who is stand on ...as u said we r stand on but as per rule no.15 we r the Give way ..plz clarify TIA
The first situation you said action was wrong why you alter to Stbd when NUC in your port side better give 2 short blast alter to port and pass Astern of nuc
@@atlantianpawanharyana1005 thanks but my question was at day time how I could understand that I am 22.5 degree abaft the overtaken vessel how could I calculate?
@@atlantianpawanharyana1005 Brother please see my question once more..... I know if I am in doubt I have to assume this is the case and act accordingly... But my question was how at day time I could understand that am 22.5 degree abaft the beam... How I will calculate? Please read the question and give me a good answer...
you cant calculate that all you can do is on radar increase the duration of past trails and from that you might get an idea that you are overtaking the vessel or not..if you have better idea on this then do share
bhai that is responsibility of overtaking vessel to keep clear as when you read first line of rule 13 ''(a) Notwithstanding anything contained in the Rules of Part B, Sections I and II any vessel. overtaking any other shall keep out of the way'' so with this line it means in TSS or narrow channel always overtaking will keep clear
If vessel is 22.5 at abaft beam then with the past tracks u can check wether she came from behind or not and that can tell u she is overtaking vessel or not other than just checking by speed
What he said is correct 💯..Your some answers are contradicting answers... Unless you are 100 sure don't make such videos., this may mislead cadets who are appearing for 2mfg
In situation where OV was crossing a CBD in a narrow channel where you said as per rule 18 we have to keep clear of the CBD , but rule 18 starts by saying "except where rules 9,10 and 13 otherwise require" so is it right to say that we are taking action in a narrow channel as per rule 18?
Please give a reply
No brother there is correction to it.. the answer should be as per Rule 9 D it is my responsibility to keep clear
As per rule 18 we are obliged to not impede the safe passage of the cbd. It is not saying that we should keep clear, but once roc established rule 8f i, ii, iii comes into play. And it would be taken as a normal crossing citustion bw 2 pd vessels. And the vsl which on her stbd side should take action. Weather it is in a tss or not. It doesnt matter.
The term not impede especially refers when the roc is not established. Its like you take a action as soon as you see the cbd vessel. And after assessing the action and still roc exists then rule 8f. Just because of this rule it does not relieve the obligation of the vessel not to impede the vessel in channel or tss.
And the term keep clear clearly states if roc exists. If furthur confusion persists, you can see capt.anil bhatia video about rule 8f. Its clearly given in it.
Brother... It is not like the rule 18 doesnt apply in narrow channel. Its only that the rules in 9 will override rules of 18.rule 18 still applies. In rule 9 there is no where mentioned the vessel should keep clear. It is only about impeding. Be specific about the terminology.
For Second mate / DNS / BSc Nautical Science prepration join kundan patna #kundanpatna
@@yashwanthnm7755 For Second mate / DNS / BSc Nautical Science prepration join kundan patna #kundanpatna
6.00 - 18 d is "not to impede" and not "keeping clear" if ROC is developed CBD is obliged as per 8 f3
2:29 come to xte extremity to stbd, re assess the situation, if still roc exist, inform master & vts and enter ITZ as per 10.d(ii). Alternatively if eng available reduce speed
avoid alteration to port for a vessel for of her beam other than for a vessel being overtaken. we can go to port here as well
Well explained. More informative specially NOT TO IMPEDE PSG explanation. Thank you
5:15 as per rule 9d
A vessel shall not cross a narrow channel or fairway if such crossing impedes the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within such channel or fairway.
Right 👍
Bro, in the RV situation. If ROC is exists for a crossing on my Stbd side , if radar is operational, we can alter co to stbd, as per rule 19d)
5:13 rule 18 does not apply in narrow channel
No rule 18 actually says except where rules 9, 10 and 13 otherwise require. Normally, pdv shall keep clear of sailing vessels and fishing vessels but as rule 9 otherwise requires sailing vessels and fishing vessels to keep clear of a pdv (assuming she can only nanvigate safely within the narrow channel or fairway). So, the latter shall be applied. Other than that, rule 18 applies in a narrow channel.
Thank you Sir for your work
Would be Helpful for Young Cadets
To crosscheck 🕉😊
great...bro can u do a video on the step by step process involved in passage planing on ECDIS....example mumbai to singapore, its a frequent question
Not possible for 8 months bro as I am not on ship and to make a proper video I need to be onboard
@@atlantianpawanharyana1005 ok i can understand, but u can give voice over with screenshots in background. it will be useful....something is better than nothing..thank you
hey brother now you can check out i have made video on passae planning in 4 parts i hope it might help you
Thanks sir. U helped a lots of needy people.
God bless you for yours hard work.
czcams.com/video/Mug_07esKDU/video.html
IN RV, FOG SIGNAL HEARD ABAFT THE BEAM, NOT SURE STBD OR PORT. RADAR INOPERATIONAL. ACTION??
bro i request you to put the video about the placement exam information after finishing bsc nautical science
i have passed the exam more than 10 year back hence i will not be perfect to make video on that topic
Bro in narrow channel prefer overtaking from port side because they already are required to keep stbd as practicable as possible
Hi there, in Capt. C. L. Dubey's 1st situation, wouldn't it be better if we alter course to stbd as OV and TV are not supposed to alter to port
Brother in c.l dubey situation he has given the situation in a close range of between 1-3 miles because if the situation is between vessel having difference of long ranges then we would have altered to stbd before the situation even existed and hence we would have kept clear
@@atlantianpawanharyana1005 ok
For Second mate / DNS / BSc Nautical Science prepration join kundan patna #kundanpatna
In situation 10:35 u can alter to stbd in RV
Phle hi situation me jaha tk alter to port hona chahiye.. In case of ram and nuc port alter krnge..
Well done mate. Thank you
Thank you
For Second mate / DNS / BSc Nautical Science prepration join kundan patna #kundanpatna
Very useful...
11:24 we can alter course to port for a vsl being overtaken.
Brother one question, in case of restricted visibility how can take series of bearings and ascertain risk of Collision. Rule 19 specifically applies to vessels not in sight of one another. Just wanted to clarify this statement
That is the case when Radar is operational brother
For Second mate / DNS / BSc Nautical Science prepration join kundan patna #kundanpatna
One situation u discussed here about CBD vessel our port side ... In this situation who is give way and who is stand on ...as u said we r stand on but as per rule no.15 we r the Give way ..plz clarify TIA
Good one👍👍
Good it help for officers
When Roc exists between CBD AND P/D WHY CAN'T WE SAY I TOOK ACTION AS PER 15??
Thanks
1:21 2 short blast a/co to port
The first situation you said action was wrong why you alter to Stbd when NUC in your port side better give 2 short blast alter to port and pass Astern of nuc
In restricted visibility..how can we take series of bearing?sir, do you mean bearing in radar?
By radar brother
For Second mate / DNS / BSc Nautical Science prepration join kundan patna #kundanpatna
how a vessel could understand that he is 22.5 degree abaft the beam of overtaken vsl at day time .......whats the method to calculate?
When u can only see the stern light of vessel neither of her side light that means u r overtaking
@@atlantianpawanharyana1005 thanks but my question was at day time how I could understand that I am 22.5 degree abaft the overtaken vessel how could I calculate?
@@nahidkhan9553 brother if u are in doubt then assume ur overtaking and act accordingly
@@atlantianpawanharyana1005 Brother please see my question once more..... I know if I am in doubt I have to assume this is the case and act accordingly... But my question was how at day time I could understand that am 22.5 degree abaft the beam... How I will calculate? Please read the question and give me a good answer...
you cant calculate that all you can do is on radar increase the duration of past trails and from that you might get an idea that you are overtaking the vessel or not..if you have better idea on this then do share
How to increase intensity of sound....
That is actually means reducing the time interval between 2 blast..
What if one vsl overtake you from stbd quarter in tss, could you pls tell the ans of its situation.
bhai that is responsibility of overtaking vessel to keep clear as when you read first line of rule 13 ''(a) Notwithstanding anything contained in the Rules of Part B, Sections I and II any vessel. overtaking any other shall keep out of the way'' so with this line it means in TSS or narrow channel always overtaking will keep clear
Now sir, roc exist authentic what will be the action this qsn was ask by the delhi mmd surveyor...! Pls tell me sir 🙏
I know the 13 a part , it is responsibility of the overtaking vsl until she s finally past and clear..
In case of that u just have to call master and alter course to port and enter separation zone and inform VTS about the situation
For Second mate / DNS / BSc Nautical Science prepration join kundan patna #kundanpatna
bro, if a vessel is at 22.5 abaft the beam? what is the action to be taken
If vessel is 22.5 at abaft beam then with the past tracks u can check wether she came from behind or not and that can tell u she is overtaking vessel or not other than just checking by speed
Hello ,can we use rule 18(4:50) in a narrow channel situation (rule 18,except rule 9,10 and 13)?
Actually the 1 st point we have to say is Rule 9(D) ,and then rule 18 and we will keep clear of CBD
Please come with perfect answers most of them are wrong actions
Okk sir
What he said is correct 💯..Your some answers are contradicting answers...
Unless you are 100 sure don't make such videos., this may mislead cadets who are appearing for 2mfg
Hindi lagvj
Kya yaar ulta seedha kuch bhi samjhaaya hua hai. Atleast see when you edit your videos.
Okk bhai ulta seedha h sorry for wrong video