I purchased my first shotgun/gun couple weeks ago, a friend of mine. Brought to my attention, was selling a shotgun. Working operating shotgun, firing pin clicks. As little did he know about firearms, he was told it was a Remington. i didnt know much either, so talked him down to $30, he took the offer. Then when I was taking a closer look, I saw it is a winchester model 12. 12g, 2 3/4, 30" barrel. After a good cleaning. It's a fine piece of American made art, shoots great.
A true Black Diamond Winchester Model 12 will have a diamond stamped on the front right side of the receiver extension. I have seen a few non-Black Diamonds with Black Diamond wood on them and a few Black Diamonds with standard wood(assumedly taken off for another gun or preservation). With the english style Black Diamond stock on yours, I would actually expect the slimmer style forend. But the trap forend was not uncommon. Black Diamonds were produced between 1914 - 1939. When it comes to ribs up until 1919 they had solid ribs and 2-pin duck billed ribs after that. They were typically marked TRAP on the receiver, but not all of them.
2 absolutely gorgeous model 12’s. Since I bought my first one years back, I have not been able to stop buying them. Also, I really enjoyed the video and would like for you to share the others you were talking about. Thanks for sharing.
Apparently black diamond wasnt a grade. There are certain years (earlier ones like the 20s etc) where the highest level trim model 12s would have black diamond stock inlays. Like all trap grade model 12s from certain years will have it while others will not. After a certain point, they seemed to just stop doing this for whatever reason. All this considered... these diamonds only appear on the highest level model 12s from very desirable production years. Which explains why it has a reputation of being a mystical special grade in winchester lore. But this would also explain why its not listed as an official grade in any paperwork. The one in the video probably says trap near the serial number and nickel steel on the barrel.
I purchased my first shotgun/gun couple weeks ago, a friend of mine. Brought to my attention, was selling a shotgun. Working operating shotgun, firing pin clicks. As little did he know about firearms, he was told it was a Remington. i didnt know much either, so talked him down to $30, he took the offer.
Then when I was taking a closer look, I saw it is a winchester model 12. 12g, 2 3/4, 30" barrel. After a good cleaning. It's a fine piece of American made art, shoots great.
Two nice model 12s. Guess I'm an odd ball, but I prefer the standard with the corn cob forearm.
The 410 bore is a Winchester Mod. 42 not a Mod. 12
A true Black Diamond Winchester Model 12 will have a diamond stamped on the front right side of the receiver extension. I have seen a few non-Black Diamonds with Black Diamond wood on them and a few Black Diamonds with standard wood(assumedly taken off for another gun or preservation). With the english style Black Diamond stock on yours, I would actually expect the slimmer style forend. But the trap forend was not uncommon. Black Diamonds were produced between 1914 - 1939. When it comes to ribs up until 1919 they had solid ribs and 2-pin duck billed ribs after that. They were typically marked TRAP on the receiver, but not all of them.
Good to know!
2 absolutely gorgeous model 12’s. Since I bought my first one years back, I have not been able to stop buying them. Also, I really enjoyed the video and would like for you to share the others you were talking about. Thanks for sharing.
They are on their way. Thanks.
Great story about your Pops (gramps). I really enjoyed your video.
From Perry county enjoy your video. I have 3 model 12. 2 12ga 1 16. My uncle used a model 97 in the shoots
Awesome!
Thanks for your share of these guns history with your family
You’re welcome, thank you!
Apparently black diamond wasnt a grade. There are certain years (earlier ones like the 20s etc) where the highest level trim model 12s would have black diamond stock inlays. Like all trap grade model 12s from certain years will have it while others will not.
After a certain point, they seemed to just stop doing this for whatever reason.
All this considered... these diamonds only appear on the highest level model 12s from very desirable production years. Which explains why it has a reputation of being a mystical special grade in winchester lore.
But this would also explain why its not listed as an official grade in any paperwork.
The one in the video probably says trap near the serial number and nickel steel on the barrel.
Thank you!!