Logan Stieber vs. Tony Ramos: 2013 NCAA title match (133 lbs.)

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  • Ohio State's Logan Stieber defeated Iowa's Tony Ramos in this 2013 NCAA wrestling championship match at 133 pounds to secure his second of four straight individual titles. Watch the full title match here.
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Komentáře • 81

  • @alexd2555
    @alexd2555 Před rokem +13

    I wrestled Logan in high school, he was the best wrestler I’ve ever faced by a long shot. Great to see how much he’s accomplished in college. Dudes a beast.

  • @michaelgorogianis8571
    @michaelgorogianis8571 Před 3 lety +29

    Tony had the near fall

  • @mikejay1385
    @mikejay1385 Před 3 lety +23

    Just to clarify a few things, im an ohio state fan, (logan has even stayed at my house). And despite that potential bias I still believe tony got 2 backs, regardless it wouldn't have changed the final result. And for those who say he was pinned, in all divisions of folkstyle wrestling, the shoulder blades must be flat for a 2 count, they clearly were not. Any hope that helps, have a blessed day!

    • @pocketssmith5933
      @pocketssmith5933 Před 2 lety +1

      Grew up wrestling with Tony in Illinois, and I agree with everything you just said.

    • @i_dont_hug_koalas
      @i_dont_hug_koalas Před 2 lety +1

      Was very close to a pin though. But yea def two backs n logan is the homie... What u think about the last second controversial no call his 1st title

    • @jeffdarnell7942
      @jeffdarnell7942 Před 2 lety +1

      Never realized it before, but he did..had a 2 count AFTER holding him there.

    • @meatazzsandwich
      @meatazzsandwich Před 2 lety

      You dont know how the rest plsys out if Ramos is awarded the 2.

    • @Th3Chuzzl3r
      @Th3Chuzzl3r Před 4 měsíci

      Ramos had 2 near fall and Oliver should of had 2 takedown

  • @BURNOUT3272
    @BURNOUT3272 Před 3 lety +33

    That was for sure two back points 7:45

    • @fredoflores5731
      @fredoflores5731 Před 3 lety

      No doubt

    • @BURNOUT3272
      @BURNOUT3272 Před 3 lety +1

      @Nathanael David but he didn’t win lol

    • @jomama969
      @jomama969 Před 3 lety +1

      You can hear Brands yell “ you son of a bitch” as he’s running up the the mat lmao

    • @kineticsage8137
      @kineticsage8137 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @nathanaeldavid6238 No, match changes dynamics when there is back points awarded, as they should have been, and no breaks for the wrestlers. Emotions, tight match

  • @williamoleary9330
    @williamoleary9330 Před 3 lety +25

    2 backs for sure
    But man is Logan strong. Ramos had the chin & you could see the power Stieber had not to be taken down again
    Great match

  • @ianshue2890
    @ianshue2890 Před 3 lety +23

    Logan Steiber, one of 4 4x NCAA champions. I wonder who’s gonna win?

    • @xenonmaster6668
      @xenonmaster6668 Před 3 lety +2

      It’s good to watch them back for when your bored and just wanna watch some old wrestling.

    • @ianshue2890
      @ianshue2890 Před 3 lety +1

      Xenonmaster 666 yeah that’s why I watched this match. But it’s just like watching a Rocky Marciano match. Rocky Marciano is widely known as the only undefeated heavyweight champion, so you know he’s gonna win, but you watch him for entertainment or for lessons on boxing. That’s kinda how it is here

    • @michaelgorogianis8571
      @michaelgorogianis8571 Před 3 lety +1

      Tony had the near fall

    • @ianshue2890
      @ianshue2890 Před 3 lety

      @@michaelgorogianis8571 Yeah, I’ll admit he probably should’ve got near fall, but I don’t know if it would’ve been enough to win

    • @michaelgorogianis8571
      @michaelgorogianis8571 Před 3 lety +3

      @@ianshue2890 it would have changed the dynamic of the match

  • @jjmarcos
    @jjmarcos Před 3 lety +4

    @6:28 "YOU SON OF A BITCH!" haha, we agree coach, we agree.

  • @williamoleary9330
    @williamoleary9330 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for uploading all of these
    We greatly missed the Tournament last year

  • @mariofreak9660
    @mariofreak9660 Před 3 lety +14

    Stieber lost two finals, this and against Oliver. I consider Stieber an excellent wrestler but he lost this one and the other where, bizarrely, Oliver didn't get the take down. I don't even like OK. State, but I remember yelling at the screen at the ref, "what are you waiting for?" That was an easy takedown call for Oliver. He got robbed horribly, the worst call in NCAA finals ever.

    • @mariofreak9660
      @mariofreak9660 Před 3 lety +4

      To clarify, he was pinned clearly. It's a quicker call than in HS, and be is clearly flat and done at 7:45. Ramos should have been a two-time champion.

    • @osubuckeyes1332
      @osubuckeyes1332 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mariofreak9660 As much as I like Ramos and his energy, he did lose this match. That pin call wasn’t really in the question and while the backs were definitely there, Stieber still would have won.

    • @Sajidov3
      @Sajidov3 Před 3 lety

      I think Ramos got 2 NF here (these were clearer imo than the ones Ramos got against Graff in the finals the following year), but you can't say for sure Ramos would have won. I still think Stieber would have had the advantage.
      But the Oliver non-call was downright criminal. As someone who had no dog in that fight, it was a blown call of epic proportions.

  • @joelknutson4002
    @joelknutson4002 Před 3 lety +20

    Back points, hell, Stieber was pinned. I’ll never forget this match.

    • @sirisaacnewtonstan
      @sirisaacnewtonstan Před 3 lety +8

      I genuinely don’t understand thinking he was pinned. Near fall points yes. Pin? Absolutely not.

    • @mikejay1385
      @mikejay1385 Před 3 lety +1

      @Kieran McGuire 1 second is not collegiate, one second is freestyle or greco, in no folkstyle division is 1 second a pin. And incase you want some credentials im a D1 commit as of this year. Still though I love how peaceful and calm your discussion was, god bless!

    • @cornprices1718
      @cornprices1718 Před rokem +2

      @@mikejay1385 Art. 1. Fall. A fall occurs when any part of both shoulders or part of both
      scapulae of either wrestler is held in contact with the mat for *one second.* The
      one-second count (one-thousand-one) shall be a silent count by the referee
      and shall start only after the referee is in position to observe that a fall is
      imminent. (See Table 4.11.1.)
      From the NCAA wrestling rulebook.
      Perhaps you should maybe read it if you're a D1 commit, no?

    • @andreantoine9702
      @andreantoine9702 Před 7 měsíci

      I was looking for this comment, Steiber got some much luck in 3 of his titles. No one may ever get as lucky as he was in NCAA wrestling ever again.

  • @LivingLikeLu
    @LivingLikeLu Před 3 lety +6

    I just honestly can’t believe out of all the talent that has come through collegiate D1 wrestling...Logan Stieber is a 4 timer...David Taylor, IMAR, Nolf, Bo Nickal, V. Joseph, Burroughs, Dierenger (to name a few) all had the caliber and dedication to be 4 timers yet they’re NOT! Like you see something like this kind of a title as the pinnacle of collegiate D1 wrestlers and you put THIS guy in that prestigious group??? It just doesn’t make sense man...personal opinion of course.

    • @sabrewolf9567
      @sabrewolf9567 Před 3 lety +2

      Ya he definitely stands out in the 4 timer group and not in a good way.

    • @Seuspesos
      @Seuspesos Před 2 lety +2

      Y’all sleepin on the work he did in freestyle too he has 61kg wins over beka lomtadze and Benham eshanpour and at 65kg had great matches with Chamizo and Romanov, Logan was low key world class up under everyone nose

    • @Ur2ez4me81
      @Ur2ez4me81 Před rokem

      Well let’s see technically they robbed Oliver & robbed Ramos so…

    • @thesneakygamer4343
      @thesneakygamer4343 Před rokem

      @@Ur2ez4me81 Ramos would have lost in the end but JO definitely was robbed. Logan was still extremely dominant, he was putting up retherford like numbers. However, he was a tweener in terms of weight and his style just didn’t translate as well to the international level.

  • @MAMP
    @MAMP Před 3 lety +4

    I love Brands' face at 6:00

  • @williamoleary9330
    @williamoleary9330 Před 9 měsíci

    Is Tony Ramos’s National Championship win on CZcams? I can’t find his win anywhere and it would be nice to see after his opening interview

  • @22jchavez
    @22jchavez Před rokem

    Crazy match! I can’t believe these coaches didn’t tell the interviewer to F off haha

  • @kevinjang8209
    @kevinjang8209 Před 2 lety

    Steiner and Ramos are going to be great head coaches someday

  • @AmericaHasFallin
    @AmericaHasFallin Před 2 lety +1

    Not giving him the near fall gave Stieber all the momentum you could see it on his face that was 2

  • @Ur2ez4me81
    @Ur2ez4me81 Před rokem +2

    The interviewer should have asked Steiber how does it feel to have the refs win you two ncaa wrestling championships 😂

  • @roberthurst4035
    @roberthurst4035 Před 2 lety +1

    Not a Ramos pin but he should’ve been awarded back points!

  • @chrisjuhl9979
    @chrisjuhl9979 Před 3 lety +1

    That was back points for IOWA when the ohio state got the crapped kicked out of them in KINNICK 55-24

  • @thesoccertrotter1
    @thesoccertrotter1 Před 2 lety +1

    8:06 Logan was basically pinned

  • @natestakely1478
    @natestakely1478 Před rokem

    I wanna know where Ramos/Stieber Carver Hawkeye arena is???? “Any other use of this telecast or any pictures, descriptions, or accounts of the match without the Hawkeye wrestlings consent is prohibited.” ??????????

  • @arnolddonaldson7129
    @arnolddonaldson7129 Před rokem

    It was a one and a half count. Needed a two. Should be no controversy with this. For those clamoring for a pin- pins in the NCAA tournament normally are not called quickly.

  • @giawoodell3996
    @giawoodell3996 Před 4 měsíci

    Let Tom talk about beating Steiber and Jordan Oliver beating Steiber. Pitiful refs everywhere, Joe Woodell

  • @user-ye7vk8qy7c
    @user-ye7vk8qy7c Před 10 měsíci

    was definitely a 2 count and would have definitely made a difference

  • @rickemery7186
    @rickemery7186 Před 2 lety

    I see now where Gilman got his tactics.

  • @jeffdarnell7942
    @jeffdarnell7942 Před 2 lety

    Didn't realize it WAS a 2 count, but it was!!

  • @HunterClark-zl4yt
    @HunterClark-zl4yt Před 3 lety +2

    That interviewer is horrible

  • @gmoney113
    @gmoney113 Před rokem +1

    100% 2 points, 100% NOT A PIN

  • @spiritualthoughts6054
    @spiritualthoughts6054 Před 2 lety

    Am I the only who can’t believe they actually interviewed the coaches during a freaking challenge? I’m surprised neither of them shoved that mic down dudes throat

  • @meatazzsandwich
    @meatazzsandwich Před 2 lety

    Refs blew it x2. First, they missed the pin. Stieber was flat on his back. Then, they missed the back points.

  • @wrstling1
    @wrstling1 Před rokem

    definitely was 2 nearfall

  • @andizzyJD12
    @andizzyJD12 Před 3 lety +1

    Stieber was incredible. 3x NCAA champion. Just like Jordan Oliver won 3 national titles.

    • @landobaggins4023
      @landobaggins4023 Před 2 lety

      stieber won 4

    • @andizzyJD12
      @andizzyJD12 Před 2 lety +2

      @@landobaggins4023 I know he got his arm raised 4 times. But I’m saying that both he and Jordan Oliver won 3 national titles. LOL

    • @bradystafford7654
      @bradystafford7654 Před 2 lety +1

      @@andizzyJD12 Jordan Oliver won 2

  • @Lilzo2.7
    @Lilzo2.7 Před 3 lety

    Blessings

  • @williamoleary9330
    @williamoleary9330 Před 3 lety +1

    The Brands are absolutely the best
    I mean who else would you want in your sons corner? Who else would have their back like them? I mean just look at Terry’s face when he’s on the Ref about the back points

    • @johndavidson815
      @johndavidson815 Před 3 lety

      The Brands brothers are elite and some of the best out there but it seems like they feed the hot hand. Ramos was the guy, then Dan Denis came along and it seemed like the Brands’ brushed Ramos aside. Then Gilman was the guy, then Gilman left for PSU/NLWC because Spencer Lee became the guy. I cannot speak all that poorly of the Brands’ as they represent Iowa very well, they produce great talent and I don’t see any of the behind the scenes info. I can only go off of what the wrestlers speak of in interviews. There is a trend that past wrestlers feel as though the Brands’ do indeed feed the hot hand. When the Brands’, specifically Tom, are asked about this kind of stuff happening they tend to avoid the topic.

  • @joewillwin3097
    @joewillwin3097 Před 2 lety

    Ramos should’ve tried a cradle at the end.....

  • @xzjayz7925
    @xzjayz7925 Před 7 měsíci

    Damn Refs back in the day were ASS

  • @trentondillon244
    @trentondillon244 Před 4 měsíci

    Robbed of 2 back points.