Extraordinary Footage Of Near-Fatal Crush At Hillsborough Years Before 1989 Tragedy
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2014
- Footage of a near-fatal crush at the Hillsborough stadium years before the 1989 disaster has been shown at the inquests into the deaths of 96 football fans.
The jury was told 38 fans were injured during a similar crush at the 1981 FA Cup semi-final between Tottenham Hotspur and Wolverhampton Wanderers.
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I was at this match. My wife passed out and she was passed down over the heads of everyone to first aiders. I went with her and we watched the rest of the match from around the pitch edge. Even though the stand was full, there were more and more people coming in from the back, squashing people against the steel barriers. The barriers were bending!
I'm so pleased that your wife was okay.
omg I'm glad u and u wife got out safley
This clearly shows that there were issues with crowd control and overcrowding at that ground eight years before the tragedy of 96 fans being crushed to death.
I can only be amazed that no one died at this ground earlier than 1989.
The English FA, Sheffield Wednesday and the police should hang their heads in shame.
+Timbo Hin This was happening at loads more semi final ties than this one at Hillsborough. Look up Blackburn vs Newcastle replay 1952 with terrible crushing at Elland Road, which is frivolously dealt with.
People died at Hillsborough as far back as a century before the tragedy
I feel it wasn't the police fault
To this day people still say its Liverpool fans fault even though this proves there was problems at Hillsborough years before.
I can't believe football was allowed to be played in such shitholes.
Death trap terrace, nearly happened at a Sheffield derby game in 1979 as well. Everyone was fully aware of the danger at that end, apart it seems from the Football authorities. Shocking.
and the video is?
@@jammyjolly1401 I don't know if there is any...but this was the 1970s, there weren't cameras at every match.
@@jammyjolly1401 fkn idiot it was boxing day massacre 1979 all u see is a few highlihjts
that was a scary day 49,000 in that packed little ground i was only ten good att. for third division though
@@AM1465 they showed their age, assuming cameras were at every ground, when it was only around 3 games a weekend shown on television. Probably wouldn't understand games from 40yrs ago when the players pass back to their goalkeeper.
Another era unfortunately, back when the expensive cars belonged to the team managers & chairman, not some 20yr old on £400K a week....
I was at Hillsborough in 1987 when we played Coventry in the semi finals of the Cup and we were squashed into the Leppings Lane. A similar disaster could have happened that day.
john barker and the police delayed the kickoff for 20 minutes that day as well. The 2 central pens had a higher given capacity than they could actually hold. I think the reported capacity for both pens was 2,100 when it should have been 1,800 to 1,900. Those extra 2-3,000 people make all the difference on a small terrace like that.
I was a Coventry fan in the Hillsborough Kop in 87 against Leeds Utd and the gangways were awful 10 mins after kick off. Thousands of us were late. I remember my Dad saying if we score now we're in trouble as the surge would have stopped our ability to breathe in the underpass aisle. Dad was s big chap and he just pushed his way to the side like a Rugby hooker and somehow we spilled down behind the wire fences to the left hand side of the Kop where there were gaps. Still think too many terrace tickets were sold for those Semi Finals. Heart goes out to the 96 and their families.
At that game too. Cov we’re in that end in the QF as well and there was a huge crush as well. We were pulling people up from the terrace as the crush was so bad. We spoke to the police to do something. They actually laughed and said people should know not to go into the central pens as there were always crushes at big games. The police knew, SWFC knew, the safety people knew, I still say those 97 Liverpool fans were all killed by corporate manslaughter. Still no one in prison even though the Police have been found guilty of purgery at an inquest and altering evidence
my old man was there in the leeds end, one of the scariest days of his life he told me,
What’s going on here fam no one here was born that long ago icl we were born 2008
@@roaarylion5214 ya get me blud , I is born in 2018 innit
There was a crush problem at Hillsborough in the 1988 semi between Liverpool and Forest exactly one year before!!!
Exactly. And also the previous year between Coventry and Leeds...
@@robbeyroad6148 The ground was obviously unsafe with an invalidated, expired safety certificate, following alterations to the terracing structure, following the near miss in '81. In the '87 and '88 semi's the match commander was an experienced officer who was all too aware of congestion problems outside and inside the ground, a bottleneck forming outside prior to the Coventry/Leeds match (kick off delayed) with precautions put in place a year later, outside. Even so, hundreds of people stood on those terraces than was safe.
Letters were written to the FA from Liverpool fans complaining about crushing problems on the Leppings lane terrace in 1988. The capacity of the 2 central pens was given as 2,200 when it should have been 1,600-1,700. So too many tickets were being sold and when the terrace was full it felt really uncomfortable like in 1988. That’s with the central tunnel being closed off as well.
theres multiple cases of overcrowding/crushing at hillsborough in the late 70s and throughout the 80s
That is an amazing amount of people
On the pitch. How could they not know changes needed to be made?!
This was the 80’s. The authorities were more concerned with avoiding trouble and didn’t care too much for safety , until a huge number were killed.
I was in the Spurs end at that game and I have to say it was pretty scary. I can't believe that after all of what was to follow the FA came through virtually blameless. They new full well that there were safety issues at that end of the ground and yet still they allowed games to be played there. They also gave the team with the most support (Spurs and Liverpool) the same end in both of those games.
+Tony Jones The conspray therorist in me would suggest that they wanted something terrible to happen.
so was i ,
and i agree with/your comments ,same when leeds played coventry in 1987 , bigger supported club had smaller end , stupid !
Kristjan Birnir i was there it was planed using the Occult.
FA and police were to blame
@Kristjan Birnir Always thought I was alone in thinking the same.
There was many more Spurs fans behind that goal that day than there were in 89.
Just shows us that the "ticketless mobs" theory is nonsense.
Plenty of room for the fans in 89 had they been policed properly.
There were a few ticketless fans at this game
No central pens in 81
Maybe more fans, but less alcohol.
@@jordanmahony4268 But the terrace was under capacity, but you'd know right ?
Hope the FA get charged.
Insisting a match take place at a ground not suitable in so many ways. And not having a valid safety certificate.
I went to a lot of football games in the 80s, most were scary, sometimes my feet never touched the terrace, just carried around in the crush
And still no lessons were learned!
+Sharon Hopton So many lessons were taught in the 80s, none learned. Too many near-misses to count. The combination of stadiums not fit for purpose and police and govt with deep hatred of fans made watching games lethal then. Focus was always on "hooligans" but ordinary fans' safety was compromised by those in charge, not the hoolies.
Its shocking
@@robgibbs4507 exactly
@@robgibbs4507 Sounds like kind of the opposite for the United States government nowadays! The democrats don’t care about the safety of the citizens of OUR country, No way! They’re more concerned about opening up our southern border and letting illegal immigrants, drug dealers, Human traffickers, murderers and gangs like MS-13 into our country and live freely!! they say “ They are human too!” NO THEY ARE NOT!!! drug dealers and ms-13 are EVIL DEMONS who want to kill people! There are ways to enter our country LEGALLY!!! These people refuse to do it that way though!
I went to a F.A cup semi final between Leeds United and Coventry and we were packed in like sardines we could hardly move . I have never felt so claustrophobic in my life
One comment said it All, there were No pens in 81,there were in 89 .The fans had No way of escaping in 89 .
The reason nobody got killed at this game is because there were no pens at this time. If the pens were not there in 1989 then nobody would have died then either. The side pens in 1989 were virtually empty. This can be seen in many videos.
I also think a capable police commander helped at this game
Looks like those grenadiers kept perfect formation through the whole thing...
lol
Proper Professionals me thinks
@@Theoriginalbigbrillo exactly
That band was nothing like the band at the California vs Stanford 1980 mess at the end of the game! LOL It was funny because the guy who scored the TD bumped into a band member!! LOL
To all fellow Spurs fans who complained about the stadium delays: This crap is why safety certs are needed before official opening.
And why the fa should be in the dock as this stadium did not have one
I stood in the Leppings lane end the season before the tragedy when man United played. It was awful and I used to love tight crowds. For the 1st time ever me and my mates left and went to the far corner. When I got home I told my dad something bad will happen there one day.
I went to the Manchester United game at Hillsborough 2 months before the disaster, the game we won 2-0. The central tunnel was closed off at 2:40ish the day we went and we were directed to the pen in the corner by the banked terrace. It was full that day as well.
@@mrkipling2201 unfortunately once they swarmed In nothing was stopping that central tunnel getting overloaded.
The police had lost control and their incompetence unfortunately caused the disaster. The lack of signage from Sheffield Wednesday directing fans to the different pens was also a factor.
i went with utd mate beat em 4.2...it was bad then
Exactly the same thing happened in the UEFA Cup tie a couple of years later between Nottm Forest and Celtic.
It was so bad at this semi final that the FA banned the use of hillsborough until something was done to make the leppings lane end safer. So in their wisdom Sheffield Wednesday and the South Yorkshire police added more fences. Clever eh??
I hope Shitfield Wednesday never get back into the Premier League.
@@timfurru4144 aww diddums
I went to watch QPR V Wednesday a few years back at Hillsborough and the 3 of us sat in our seats . About 5 mins before kickoff 3 more people came and told us we were sat in their seats and when we compared our tickets they were identical . How many more seats had been double sold that day
Not sure what that running around the field at half time was all about, but during the play the overflow of spectators sitting on the field sidelines seemed perfectly behaved. So much for the riotous fan theory. As was later learned, it wasn't the crowd itself but rather lack of crowd control that cause a tragedy.
Looks like they were trying to spread out while they game was stopped
Invisible sheepdog trials
Looks like they were goading the Wolves fans
Don't know who decided pens were the answer to overcrowding but they were fatally wrong... As a City fan I remember going to old Trafford when they had pens in the away end, behind the goal.. The crush was relentless and truly frightening, there was nowhere to go to ease the pressure from the back... Its the only time I was afraid at a football match and vowed to never go to a ground with pens ever again....
had there been pens at this match there would have been fatalities
That's the truth , This information has been kept quite from the general public. Wednesday fans still say nothing like this happened before the Liverpool game. This needs to be shared more.
john caley
That's bolloxs
Wednesday fans who know about 89 know about this incident
I've heard Wednesday fans say they didn't know but not once have I heard any Wednesday fan deny this happened
I agree, the pen fences running up the steps played a huge part in 1989 !
@@clp1000 what are pen fences? weren't those the fences blocking people from getting out?
@@ANA801234 Pen fences are the ones going up the steps, making smaller sections out of that terrace. In 1989, all the problems were in the middle section, there was more room at the corners
Very annoying to think years before disaster struck at hillsbourgh there was some overcrowding problems in the leppings lane end and the fact that the FA and the police didn’t do anything to resolve this problem like maybe adding some seats or introducing more turnstiles for the big games is just making the FA and the police look like utter idiots
Given that there was a history of crushing at Hillsborough (81, 88) it does beg the question as to why they kept using it for Cup semis knowing there were issues? It's almost as if they didn't care about the fans. Surely there are other grounds that could have been used?
+Marosa It was amongst the largest capacity grounds in the country at the time.
+Marosa Peter Robinson (of LFC) contacted the F.A, as did at least one supporter, to ask if Old Trafford, for example, could not be used instead. The request fell on deaf ears.
I would suggest perhaps a little brown envelope of money which should have been spent on safety improvements passed between the management of the club and the FA to entice the semi finals back to Hillsborough. There is no other plausible reason to me why an old and inherently dangerous stadium, with multiple crush events and a lapsed safety certificate would be chosen for 87', 88' and 89' as it was. As Professor Phil Scraton describes, institutional complacency and negligence. And perhaps a little brown bag of cash or two.
Maybe because of its location ?
They liked using it because it was big and they could separate fans more easily.
It was a miracle something similar to this didn't happen at Tottenhams Park Lane end, in a similar way to the Leppings lane end the terrace was segmented and there was only one way into the terrace. The police would only open up more of the terrace when one section became jam packed. There was nowhere to go with the fences.
scandalous. Never knew about this incident, its almost identical to Hillsborough with Liverpool!
They would all have been ushered through the central alley into pens 3 and 4
How hard is it to have someone on that gate who shuts its when tose pens are full! i know Dukenfield and co are guilty of criminal offences but how simple is it that someone shuts the feckin gate!
I was at this game , I was on the Wolves end. I`m a Sheffield United fan. I`ve been trying to tell people about this incident for years but no one seemed to believe me. Wednesday fans just say nothing ever happened before the Liverpool game. Away end wasn`t split into three then or it would have happened sooner.
@@johncharlescaley
WEDNESDAY fans who know about 89 knew about this
I have never heard any Wednesday fan say this didn't happen
Some didn't know but that's it,
Plus the leppings lane end lower was in 3 in 81
2 sides and one large central pen
It was divided further into 5 making pens 3and4 in the middle in time for the 84/85 season due to Wednesday just returning to the first division.
A couple of weeks before the Hillsborough disaster, I was at the forest Vs man Utd game in the away end. It's was the scariest moment of my life. People without tickets got in the ground, and I was crushed up by a railing nr the front. I felt trapped and many others did. This was always going to happen.
What's insane about this footage is that absolutely nothing was done, when there were clearly problems.
@@AD65 all money money money comes first
But let’s not forget the luicniki disaster in Moscow in 1983 and valley parade two years later followed by the heysel disaster 18 days later
The '89 Movie Documentary on Netflix will bring this to a much needed light.
The 80's were a time fans were treated abysmally due to the hooligan element. Its mostly a lot better now. But there are still occasional problems as we saw in Paris recently.
Clear representation of how nobody acts before it's too late.
They did act: by making things much worse. They added tall fences after this match, to make it harder for people to get onto the field (and to prevent getting crushed to death).
@@brightblue2415 well again, shows the pessimistic society the UK has when they immediately go straight to the conclusion that it was the fans causing trouble getting on to the pitch instead of the real reason. It’s a narrative they wanted to the believe at the time, that it was hooligans.
History always gives warnings but people never take note!
Any other Liverpool fans remember the away game against Walsall early 1980,s when the low parapet wall collapsed?
I do, i was there, it was also a televised game
We all went forward when lpool scored, fortunately no one was injured.
Never thought nothing of it until a few years later namely
Heysel Stadium ;(
Ill finish how i started
"History always gives warnings but people never take note!"
Paul Williams I’ve seen the Walsall game on tv, the goals from the game anyway, and when the wall gave way behind the goal it looked very dangerous. I’m surprised nothing happened in regards to serious injuries at least. Thankfully it didn’t.
Tartan Army fans had visited Brussels for a Belgium v Scotland game. They said then that it was an absolute museum piece that should never have hosted ANY game, nevermind a major final.
Part of the issue was they wanted to choose a venue that needed to be neutral. Often the same club sides would progress to the final eight, which would be Italian, German, Spanish or English mostly, so all those stadiums were ruled out. It ended up in Paris, Rotterdam, Lisbon, Vienna or Athens on a regular rotation.
They chose Rome only for AS Roma to make the final, so settled on Brussels (the Netherlands or Lisbon would've been a better option).
Anyway Scotland fans said it was dropping to bits so who from UEFA didn't do their safety checks and ensure the fans were kept at opposite ends of the stadium? Nobody.....
Yes I was there , sourness was helping the fans
I was at that game in the Walsall end. This footage of Hillsborough just shows that nobody learnt, deplorable really.
Yea mate I was there that night truth be known it was horrendous driving on the m6 back to Liverpool after the game never known to drive in thick fog that night took us hours to get back
look at some of the British Pathe newreels of fa cup semi replays in the 50's eg newcastle vs Wolves and guess what - people crushed and fainting in the leppings lane end...
Even at half time, still nothing was done. The band still played on. Unbelievable
I feel sick watching this, knowing what was to come.
Maybe this was the reason why the outer pens where seemed to be overlooked because in 89 they were half empty so they may have had someone on that middle pen door almost scared to direct fans away from a middle pen that was already full? but in this tie they look packed
I was at that game, I was in the north stand, lucky, thay opened the gates, that led on to the pitch, if not, that would have been the the Hillsborough disaster, for sure, I had a realy good view, from where I was sat.
I remember years before this even. We played Sheff Wed in a cup game. Can’t remember exact year but 80s. There was a crush in one of the tunnels as we tried to leave the ground after the 90. Eventually got out of the tunnel only to find our way barred by mounted police. The horses then began to push us all toward a wall. It was quite claustrophobic. Not sure how long it went on. But eventually they moved out of the way & the exit gates were opened to allow us to get out & onto the street #jft97
I was at a QPR vs West Ham FA Cup tie not too long before Hillsborough - in with the away fans.....there was a crush that day too. No fences luckily and fans able to get onto the pitch, it was quite a worrying few minutes. The match was delayed until it was sorted but this was all a case of too many fans being pushed into too small a space.
They should have done something before what happened in 1989. Sad. :(
They should have got rid of the perimeter fencing, that would have prevented hillsborough from happening
This should be publicised on mainstream media in order that ill educated factions understand what an inherent danger this stadium was...not exclusively the fault of marauding liverpool fans...in 1989...as is still widely believed even to this day....witness the chants of opposing groups at matches
This proves the Authorities were to blame, omg look at those poor fans.
And yet they kept going back there
That's unbelievable 😳
They had 8 years to make the ground safer before the '89 disaster.
TakerKaneanite619 instead they made it more dangerous with pen fences!
In 1989 the ground did not have a valid safety certificate.
what a mess
I have never seen the footage before but remember newspaper reports.My brother is a Spurs fan he was at the game and commented on it but was not too bothered at the time though .Like many a fan I too was oblivious to the danger and laughed at being crushed in a crowd mainly at times when we scored .Only after the Hillsborough disaster did we realise the crushing at football matches was going to cause mass fatalities sooner or later.I was there the year before this in 1980 with Arsenal we had no problems thank God .
the 1980 fourty two replay fa cup matches lol
This crap stadium should be demolished. Period. Even the surrounding area of the stadium is depressing.
A lot of people blame the South Yorkshire police for this and Hillsborough blame the FA as well their got away with a lot of blood on their hands Wembley should of been chosen after this game and Hillsborough wouldn't of happened
If Wembley had been chosen as the venue, the disaster would not have happened. There must have been other more suitable options available. The FA should have been held accountable too.
I was there sitting by the pitch at the Leppings Lane End....surely some of the blame must go to who evers bright idea it was to give Spurs the small end and Wolves the big end...and then to do the same give Forest the big end and Liverpool the small end is ridiculous and asking for trouble anyway.
Don't know why. We were like sardines in the Wolves end
@@smithy2882 I dont understand how people enjoyed this crushing. I read about the terraces and I can feel panic building up just from reading.
Yet people went week after week and seemed to love it. Like sardines. It would have sent me into hysteria.
And now people in quarantine actually killing themselves after a week or two of being alone, even missing their office jobs. Just needing to be with others.
I seem too remember that the allocation of the ends was due the (supposed) ease of access from the various clubs cities, something along those lines.
It makes no difference, both clubs sold out their allocation of 25,000. It could just as easily have been Wolves in the Leppings Lane end. Spurs lives are not more important than Wolves simply because they are a bigger club overall.
They would packed way too many people in those sections. It's sad what eventually happened. It was a tragedy that could've been avoided.
This happened 8 years before the loss of the 96 and they made no changes to the fencing?? And why was the match allowed to continue?
See it almost happened to spurs just we got away with it unfortunately Liverpool never did that why are thoughts go out to the 96
Big respect for that comment, YNWA
Thanks mate !
Remember it like yesterday, there was some broken limbs and spurs fans ringing in the radio stations basically telling them what was going to happen in the future if nothing was done ,well nothing was done and the rest is sadly history for all the wrong reasons 😥
Jesus that could have been Hillsborough before Hillsborough
Begs the question why was the game not stopped
I find it astonishing no one died. Which beggers belief why they put in pens at the Leppings Lane End in 1985. Was always gonna make it worse as we all sadly saw in 1989.
Heard that after that game the pens were put in to try & stop that from happening again. Instead it just made it worse.
This sort of thing was happening at many games. The money men needed an excuse to create a disaster so they could put middle class seats in and make money.
Sadly there was plenty of signs leading up to that tradigy.
Millwall vs Luton riot pitch invasion was cause because of crushing, at first they let them into the opposite stands to even things out and things we going ok at first but obviously and enevatibly fighting broke out.
I’m surprised that there wasn’t deaths at the Millwall v Luton game in 1985 because of crushing. That was the initial problem and why fans escaped that terrace. The rioting took place about an hour after the game had finished and was all the nutters who’d stayed behind. The normal fans had already left by then, according to a mate of mine who was there.
So hooliganism had nothing to do with the problem.It was all somebody else's fault
The 6 foot spiked fences on the terrace stooping natural crowd dynamics is the biggest WTF
A major reason for overcrowding at these big games was people paying cash at the turnstiles for all ticket matches. I experienced similar crowd crush at Stamford Bridge in 1980(?) Chelsea v. Liverpool semifinal of the FA cup. After that match I abandoned going to matches for many years.
And the band played on.
I've watched CZcams footage of the 1974 semi between Burnley and Newcastle and someone comments on the crush in the Leppings Lane end then ! Luckily Burnley, the side with the smaller following, were in that end, and there were fences.
Look, the team who has the Leppings Lane does not get the smaller allocation. Jeez some people.
I saw this type of event at Highbury a couple of times way back. Barriers giving way was common. Just let fans at in with no concept of safety.
Fans were treat like animals
Yep
In fact there was also a close call the year before Hillsborough happened, again involving Liverpool at the western (left on the TV broadcast) end-too many crowded into too small a space….?
the guards just marched on through regardless , looks like the crowd kept out of their way too eh
Unbelievable
I bet those fences were designed to take a heavy vehicle impact let alone crowd loading. No wonder people ended up getting crushed to death.
In Villa v Everton League cup final replay in 1977 in the second half the Everton fans were allowed to leave that stand and walk around edge of pitch to side stand. So what was going on?
I was at that match.
it wasn't near fatal. It was fatal. People died while others watched on in horror unable to really do anything. It's a horrible way to die right in front of people, and a very preventable death. It's always human negligence that causes these crowd crushes.
I don’t think anybody died in that crush though did they? Lots injured which is unacceptable obvs
69 mins into game - spectators can be seen sitting on the pitch - and in the goal mouth - eating chips drinking beer and having a right good laff !! Howaay the lads !!! No-one died THAT day - thankfully.
Riki Newton What does Howaay mean!? I heard one of the characters in a Catherine Cookson movie say that!!!!!
Kenyan Bunnie Howay means “come on” basically
Remember maybe 87 at Stamford bridge as l'pool fan being lifted off the ground and squashed couldn't breathe lucky not for long as waiting to get in .
So, basically a disaster waiting to happen. Shocking!
i was behind the goal
My dad was at this game
I was at a game, arsenal v pool ,league Cup replay, 1988,in the North Bank, it was ridiculous, apparently 3 thousand fans were locked out,
I WAS 13 WENT WITH EVERTON 1977 THAT WAS ONE BAD PLACE CUP REPEPLAY
Ya happend plenty stadiums back then
Why we’re they running across the field during halftime?
What made them escape the stands to “inch” their ways to sit on field?????
Someone farted
They were being chased by a giant queen ant and she laid 2,000,000 eggs in the ground and the F. A covered it all up.. 🐜🐜🐜🐜👸🐜🐜🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃👽👾🏃🏃🏃
Wow - A guards band at a semi final.
1971 Stoke v Arsenal. Arsenal were at the other end and l remember thinking l was glad we weren't in the Lepping Rd end as they looked crushed.
worse crush I have been in ,
After The Who at Charlton Athletic football ground..At Charlton station queueing to
gain access .🥺
Check out Celtic v Nottingham Forrest in 1983
At this point, I'm assuming there's a vendetta against wednesay because as with wednesday having 50 thousand in the 70s, sold out multiple times and 39 thousand in 2012 nothing has happend regarding crowd accidents.
I agree with all these comments as i was bang in the middle of the leppings lane end jan 1985 fa cup game sheff wed v oldham attendance 36.000 oldham had that team under joe royle that went on to great things and that end was frightening the push foward was really scary ... It was a disaster waiting to happen ive no idea how from 1981 to 1989 that it didnt.... Little fact to go with this in 1988 the fa cup semi final was Liverpool v nottm forest as well.. Get the footage from the that and the Liverpool end looks exactly the same as the 1989 semi its unbelievable....
my take is the clubs are to blame, was at a bolton match thirty yrs back and nearly got squashed.
all I could think about was "I'll bet the chairman is happy with his crowd".
put me off big games and football in general.
was no surprise to me that a disaster would take place sooner or later.
the whole football industry was bankrupt back then. and I mean in a moral sense.
Still gets me to this say yeah the cops have in court as they should ok wrong verdicts but nothing has been done about the fa dont forget the stadium did not even have its safety certificate
If the stadium doesn't have a safety certificate, they simply shouldn't allow the public into the place. I know that Spurs had to wait for their safety certificate before they were allowed to open the new stadium.
Yep! Even then dozy coppers seemed to walk the spurs fans down our end looking for options to watch the game with us.
Ik these terraces were banned for a long while and with good reason actually, but the atmosphere in the 60s-70s with these terraces were outstanding! Ik we have safer standing now but im sure the police are atleast a bit smarter now and know how to control the stadiums a bit better and I think we should bring them back tbh. I mean look at the south americans especially Boca and Gremio the “Avalanches” produce by the fans are actually outstanding and if im not mistaken barely anything has come out of said terraces in south america. Also the Signal Iduna Park, which still has the railings but not as crouded as seen with my club MCFC which has the south stand covered with locked seats and safe railing, and atleast with dortmund it isnt as clumped up with railing and has space for fans to slope down forward and create a class effect of all the fans rushing towards the goal net or player celebrating after a goal. Still really tragic event in hillsborough but still would be nice to atleast add some classic old school terraces back
Damn, that passage of play for the wolves goal, immaculate!
Wasn't it the same at the 88 semi final too
Why no lessons learned?
I was there that day was up to the right of leppings Lane stand. No lessons were learned . Don’t remember the marching band at half time.
There are now verdicts from Newcastle United fans in 2023 of overcrowding recently in the Leppings Lane end.
I was there at the game behind the goal, we got carried almost from outside to the entrance stalls with out feet in the air, all the fans were going baaa baaa baaaa, once inside it was a crush. This should have never have happened again. Referee respect, his report should have been taken into the account at the initial hillsborough enquiry!
What was it like, your feet dangling and being carried so far? It's so hard to imagine such a thing would even be possible!! I can't believe no one died.
@@Goldenretriever-k8m that's what I want to know. It makes me feel panic~stricken just to read that.
@@SesameR7sh yeah just the logistics of what happened is hard to understand even from a level of pure physics!
Those penned in stands were always a death trap.
Maybe if there had been a mechanical release button so if anything happened like this they could have dropped the fencing Maybe more lives could have been saved. But it is all well being in hindsight