Lei, your reach is certainly DEEP in the community! I have a question regarding the 'base' colour Pan is attempting to control. It's my understanding that this blue base calico is actually the not a pigment in the scales themselves but located in the tissues below the scales. Is that correct? It appears blue but is actually black pigment that just appears blue when viewed through the tissue and scales above. Do we know what the pigments purpose is playing in these deeper tissues? Does it have a function we may not be aware of currently and that manipulating these tissues may wave downstream effects we may not foresee? Might this be of concern ... ? I am just playing the devil's advocate here; I truly LOVE this new ranchu type Pan has had the vision to create and is now refining. It is a great innovation and think this is the kind of breed interventions that we both can get behind! I hope you can put a little bee in his bonnet and see if you can convince him that the fish needs a bigger/wider tail not a smaller one since the body changes he envisioned needs to be more balanced and functional tail that allows the fish more graceful propulsion with less movement ... like a cow in the grassy meadows swatting the fly from its body on a lazy humid summers day ... the swatting isnt frenetic but effortless.
Bruce, you are absolutely right on goldfish color! Correct, there is no blue color at all. Like you said, blue color is dermins color under nacreous scales. Goldfish does have black melanophore. I guess Pan’s work basically removed the half-transparent scales, which make the blue base. All the cow ranchu should have normal scales. That is how he got rid of blue base. As for the body shape, different people has different opinions. I can see where you come out the idea. the long tail for strong propel. Before the cow ranchu, Pan developed short-tail Ranchu. Really cute and popular in Market. He simply made the color and tail attributes together to get cow ranchu
GoldfishLover.67 probably eliminate the transparent scales. If Transparent scales are still there, the blue base will show up. The black pigments are more concentrated to certain areas then become black patches
Small tail Ranchu is Pan's main work earlier, this has become the property of Chinese Ranchu, very hot hear. And I think small tail forces fish to move harder, which shaped a cowly-strong body.
Thank you for your feedback. I noticed lots of friends here requested more info about Chinese goldfish farms and their breeding techniques. I will add more videos about this topics
Getting into an Asian Arowana territory in terms of price. The effort it takes to cull thousands upon thousands of fry at different stages to get to a near imitation of a milk cow.......so much work!
thank you, Michael. That was the price back in 2018. With more and more cow ranchus are produced from Fuzhou, the price may drop. All about supply vs demand
@@GoldfishCorner usually you don't know the Farm, it is difficult to have an AA or AAA quality in Spain. If you know a Spanish breeder please tell me. Thank you
Henry, thank you for your warm-hearted words. I wish I could have more hours so I can speed up my process. I plan to release another goldfish guru talk on Chinese Ranchu next week or two
Hi Professor Lei, I would like to visit this event. Interesting information, I understand a bit of Spanish, there was a lot of work by Mr Pan to create these color selections, in particular I was struck by the one inspired by the black and white cow. Great job and video as always. I wish you a good weekend.
@@MarcoIsidori Thank you, buddy. I have been quiet on CZcams since last Dec due to other high priorities in my life. Now I am back and hopefully able to create more content. Good luck Marco!
So basically creating a more durable and lasting black and white pattern. I have a feeling and I hope that Cow will eventually be the new face of Panda. A true panda is really a black twelve- point and are one of the hardest colors to produce. This market's panda is just a color changing phase, with 5% guarantee that it will be a sturdy, close to permanent look on a specimen- and that sucks. Today's pandas will always turn into "tricolor' (with even less black) becase the market can't admit that the black is really fading. Underneath it's just a white, red or red and white fish. I love the science that went behind this, using calico fish as a base and eliminating and developing certain colors to produce something new. This fact has been very successful for Nacreous Scale colors, like Sakura where the blue and black has been bred out. However it's not uncommon to see these with few black streaks and scales. Also the black on Nacreous fish are more stable than those of metallic scales, beause it's meant to be there in patches or spots- Calico, Kirin. This will mean a very attractive, bold and playfull appearance for the Cow. By eliminating some colors of a usual calico, it will make room for what is really desired. The Cow Ranchus I have seen sold really just look like plain calico Ranchus with excessive black, so I hope we will get a more correct and stable with just black and white in the near future. For me, this new Cow color can even go without a red head.
Very insightful comments. I think cow ranchu is the prerequisite for pandas 🐼. The next step is to develop the location of black patches on the right spots, like a panda. One thing missing in Pan’s video is about the durability of the black-red color pattern. I am not sure how long these black and white pattern can hold. Conversing his reputation, I guess Pans color pattern should be long is not permanent. Like he said at the end, one year his farm only got 7 real cow ranchu.
@@GoldfishCorner would he need to eliminate or reduce or minimise the presence of the metallic scales in what was essentially calico fish? There is an American breeder of shubunkins in Georgia or the Carolinas that has developed a series of new shubunkins that took the opposite approach ... they have maximised the presence of metallic scales to some very beautiful results. It might be worth looking at their approach as it may hold some clues. I'll follow up with their CZcams channel name shortly.
Very interesting!! Personally I think Mr.Pan was being a bit of a salesman BUT it very interesting never the less. I never saw a cow with an orange head. LOL
In the video...he did said it looks close to the cow pattern they trying to achieve tho. And thats not the 100% cow like ranchu yet. But still the price for that fish is 7000 yuan.
Calico has five colors: red, yellow, black, blue and white. Cow Ranchu should only have black patches on white base, red Wen is a bonus! White base is the key of cowchu. fake cow Ranchu may have blue base color.
Hi Lei, I have somthing to ask... One of my pearlscale goldfish has developed a red patch on his body and he's losing a bit of scales too. Other than this he's active. Do u have any idea about what is it?
Is the red patch just a color change? Do you see any extra lime on the patch? If just color change, no worries. The re-grown scales will not be the thick pearlscales.
This is an oranda goldfish I bought from a pretty bad fish store. It originally had a bone sticking out, but I think it fell off. He/she is missing a huge chunk of its body, and I already have them in a quarantine tank with melafix, aquarium salt, and parasite remedy. If there anything else I need to do for them? The guy there refused to tell me what happened to the goldfish. czcams.com/video/jKPvItbUsMc/video.html
omg, this could be a really nice red Oranda. It has really good wen growth, Goosehead type of Wen. I did not see any further infection or white fungus. I think you did a good sanitization. Pay attention to its rot fins and wounds. If it get infected, please use Cotten tip with hydra dioxide to clean any wound or infection. The fins will re-grow
Okay thanks! And I totally agree, it’s a shame about the injury, it’s a beautiful fish. Luckily the owner of the store gave me some free aquarium salt (I already had some but I was running out). Thanks for the advice! I’ll make sure to keep you updated!
@@GoldfishCorner is there any certified reseller in Indonesia i see there is a lot of not-so-cow ranchus seller here, that selling the blue base one or calico and claimed as a pure cow. Thx in adv.
It was pretty late, but I think I’m going to buy some medicine at the store today. I think there might be another one on his belly, but it’s a lot deeper in and I was unable to get it off. Do you know what medicine would work best?
Goldfish is a culture symbol representing the breeding countries. Different countries or cultures have different appreciation of good or bad. “Critical Thinking” and “Open Mind” are the two balanced focal points, like the Ying-Yang
Lei, your reach is certainly DEEP in the community! I have a question regarding the 'base' colour Pan is attempting to control. It's my understanding that this blue base calico is actually the not a pigment in the scales themselves but located in the tissues below the scales. Is that correct? It appears blue but is actually black pigment that just appears blue when viewed through the tissue and scales above. Do we know what the pigments purpose is playing in these deeper tissues? Does it have a function we may not be aware of currently and that manipulating these tissues may wave downstream effects we may not foresee? Might this be of concern ... ?
I am just playing the devil's advocate here; I truly LOVE this new ranchu type Pan has had the vision to create and is now refining. It is a great innovation and think this is the kind of breed interventions that we both can get behind! I hope you can put a little bee in his bonnet and see if you can convince him that the fish needs a bigger/wider tail not a smaller one since the body changes he envisioned needs to be more balanced and functional tail that allows the fish more graceful propulsion with less movement ... like a cow in the grassy meadows swatting the fly from its body on a lazy humid summers day ... the swatting isnt frenetic but effortless.
Bruce, you are absolutely right on goldfish color! Correct, there is no blue color at all. Like you said, blue color is dermins color under nacreous scales. Goldfish does have black melanophore. I guess Pan’s work basically removed the half-transparent scales, which make the blue base. All the cow ranchu should have normal scales. That is how he got rid of blue base.
As for the body shape, different people has different opinions. I can see where you come out the idea. the long tail for strong propel. Before the cow ranchu, Pan developed short-tail Ranchu. Really cute and popular in Market. He simply made the color and tail attributes together to get cow ranchu
@@GoldfishCorner Hmmmm ... so are you saying it's the scales that are changing in transparency? or has the black pigment no longer there?
GoldfishLover.67 probably eliminate the transparent scales. If Transparent scales are still there, the blue base will show up. The black pigments are more concentrated to certain areas then become black patches
Small tail Ranchu is Pan's main work earlier, this has become the property of Chinese Ranchu, very hot hear. And I think small tail forces fish to move harder, which shaped a cowly-strong body.
@@llz7033 Good point. I guess that the short tail may make caudal peduncle stronger due to more movement or exercises
Many friends here may hear about or have Pan’s Ranchu. Let’s listen Mr. Pan, 潘国诚先生, talking about his story developing the famous Milk Cow Ranchu.
So kind to let us see his wonderful fish
Mr. Pan is a doer. I don't see him doing that much lecture. This video may be the one. Thank you, William
Hello Mr. Pan.....what a great video sir....these fish are so amazing and beautiful!
Not only is that adorable fish show champion, he is also champion of my heart. So cute.
Well said
Thank you so much!!!
Love it! If possible, I think we would also like to see his farm to learn how he breeds, grooms, culls, and feeds his ranchu.
Thank you for your feedback. I noticed lots of friends here requested more info about Chinese goldfish farms and their breeding techniques. I will add more videos about this topics
Getting into an Asian Arowana territory in terms of price. The effort it takes to cull thousands upon thousands of fry at different stages to get to a near imitation of a milk cow.......so much work!
thank you, Michael. That was the price back in 2018. With more and more cow ranchus are produced from Fuzhou, the price may drop. All about supply vs demand
Wow! Amazing insight into the hard work to develop these fish. Thank you.
Thank you, Cynthia. Just some background info, as Pans Ranchus start gaining attractions here in US.
Very informative!
Thank you
👏👏👏👏 thanks for your video, I'm learning a lot from you
Jose, Can you get Pan's Ranchu in Spain? USA hobbyists here can get Pan's ranchu from the certified importer, Kevin @ Goldfish Kingdom.
@@GoldfishCorner usually you don't know the Farm, it is difficult to have an AA or AAA quality in Spain. If you know a Spanish breeder please tell me. Thank you
Excellent work!!
Thank you, Alex
Would really want to buy when it hits global market officially.will take time to really to breed them in large quantity
Big thanks for your selfless dedication. I benefit from the precious experiences and knowledge gained by this channel.👍👍👍
Henry, thank you for your warm-hearted words. I wish I could have more hours so I can speed up my process. I plan to release another goldfish guru talk on Chinese Ranchu next week or two
👍👍👍Bravo!! I can't wait to see it!!😊
Master pan, inspiring me 🙏
Thank you, my friend!
Lei Wang Sir
U are the Best :)
Thank you, Shams
Beautiful
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi Professor Lei, I would like to visit this event. Interesting information, I understand a bit of Spanish, there was a lot of work by Mr Pan to create these color selections, in particular I was struck by the one inspired by the black and white cow. Great job and video as always.
I wish you a good weekend.
Thank you Marco as always for the encouragement
@@GoldfishCorner Hi Lei, how are you? Thanks for the reply I see your videos I really like. I am happy for the result you have achieved.
@@MarcoIsidori Thank you, buddy. I have been quiet on CZcams since last Dec due to other high priorities in my life. Now I am back and hopefully able to create more content. Good luck Marco!
@@GoldfishCorner Welcome back Lei!
Have a nice day and good job.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
thanks
So basically creating a more durable and lasting black and white pattern. I have a feeling and I hope that Cow will eventually be the new face of Panda. A true panda is really a black twelve- point and are one of the hardest colors to produce. This market's panda is just a color changing phase, with 5% guarantee that it will be a sturdy, close to permanent look on a specimen- and that sucks. Today's pandas will always turn into "tricolor' (with even less black) becase the market can't admit that the black is really fading. Underneath it's just a white, red or red and white fish.
I love the science that went behind this, using calico fish as a base and eliminating and developing certain colors to produce something new. This fact has been very successful for Nacreous Scale colors, like Sakura where the blue and black has been bred out. However it's not uncommon to see these with few black streaks and scales. Also the black on Nacreous fish are more stable than those of metallic scales, beause it's meant to be there in patches or spots- Calico, Kirin. This will mean a very attractive, bold and playfull appearance for the Cow. By eliminating some colors of a usual calico, it will make room for what is really desired. The Cow Ranchus I have seen sold really just look like plain calico Ranchus with excessive black, so I hope we will get a more correct and stable with just black and white in the near future. For me, this new Cow color can even go without a red head.
Very insightful comments. I think cow ranchu is the prerequisite for pandas 🐼. The next step is to develop the location of black patches on the right spots, like a panda. One thing missing in Pan’s video is about the durability of the black-red color pattern. I am not sure how long these black and white pattern can hold. Conversing his reputation, I guess Pans color pattern should be long is not permanent. Like he said at the end, one year his farm only got 7 real cow ranchu.
@@GoldfishCorner would he need to eliminate or reduce or minimise the presence of the metallic scales in what was essentially calico fish? There is an American breeder of shubunkins in Georgia or the Carolinas that has developed a series of new shubunkins that took the opposite approach ... they have maximised the presence of metallic scales to some very beautiful results. It might be worth looking at their approach as it may hold some clues. I'll follow up with their CZcams channel name shortly.
@@GoldfishCorner they are called BLACKWATER CREEK KOI FARM.
@@goldfishlover.6734 Do you know his name, so I could look it up? Thank you
My bad apparently i can't scroll 😂
Thank you!
Very interesting!! Personally I think Mr.Pan was being a bit of a salesman BUT it very interesting never the less. I never saw a cow with an orange head. LOL
Thank you, Don. I don’t disagree with you. He is the owner of Pans goldfish farm and tried to advocate this breed.
In the video...he did said it looks close to the cow pattern they trying to achieve tho. And thats not the 100% cow like ranchu yet. But still the price for that fish is 7000 yuan.
Woww.
Thanks, man!
借分享～
谢谢
Beautifull. SubhanAllah
Thanks
How do you distinguish calico from cow ranchu? They all look the same? Is there a standard or judging criteria for this? Thanks
Calico has five colors: red, yellow, black, blue and white. Cow Ranchu should only have black patches on white base, red Wen is a bonus! White base is the key of cowchu. fake cow Ranchu may have blue base color.
Hi Lei, do you know what ranchu parents should be used to breed a panda ranchu? 🐼🐼🐼
I think Pan mentioned in the vidoe
Hi Lei, I have somthing to ask...
One of my pearlscale goldfish has developed a red patch on his body and he's losing a bit of scales too. Other than this he's active. Do u have any idea about what is it?
Is the red patch just a color change? Do you see any extra lime on the patch? If just color change, no worries. The re-grown scales will not be the thick pearlscales.
@@GoldfishCorner no. It's like a blood patch. Not much though
As long as the red patch is not infected, it is fine. Make sure you use aged water not the treated tap water with water conditioner
@@GoldfishCorner ok got it!!! Thanks for your help
我才意识到潘国诚是现在国内概念很火的“潘氏兰寿”的老板...这个老板厉害的，做成了国内兰寿标杆。现在淘宝搜兰寿，各家都是说自己是潘氏的鱼。现在兰寿价格特别高，我看到有人买10cm的奶牛花了1w1....
潘国诚的金鱼有创新，有质量。而且现在正向金鱼周边产业发展，比如金鱼器材， 金鱼饲料。做的很好，我有时也时常和他在微信里聊聊
@@GoldfishCorner 厉害了。不知道潘老板有没有兴趣把他的鱼往加拿大、美国卖？我住在加拿大，想买好的兰寿，但是真的是没有渠道...就是我愿意付高价都没地方买,实在是难过
潘老板在北美仅有一家指定代理 商goldfishkingdom.com. Kevin 的鱼店在Las Vegs, 大部分网购。你可以去他的网站看看。
@@GoldfishCorner 谢谢告知~我知道这家，但是我在加拿大很是不方便...而且他家的鱼对于赚加币的我来说实在是太贵了（捂脸哭） o(╥﹏╥)o 看看以后潘老板愿不愿意在加拿大开拓市场吧~
@@user-mc2qm1cx4c 嗯，好鱼难求
I just bought a rescue goldfish that was in bad condition, if I link a photo could you help me see what it needs?
Sure, I can take a look
This is an oranda goldfish I bought from a pretty bad fish store. It originally had a bone sticking out, but I think it fell off. He/she is missing a huge chunk of its body, and I already have them in a quarantine tank with melafix, aquarium salt, and parasite remedy. If there anything else I need to do for them? The guy there refused to tell me what happened to the goldfish. czcams.com/video/jKPvItbUsMc/video.html
omg, this could be a really nice red Oranda. It has really good wen growth, Goosehead type of Wen. I did not see any further infection or white fungus. I think you did a good sanitization. Pay attention to its rot fins and wounds. If it get infected, please use Cotten tip with hydra dioxide to clean any wound or infection. The fins will re-grow
Okay thanks! And I totally agree, it’s a shame about the injury, it’s a beautiful fish. Luckily the owner of the store gave me some free aquarium salt (I already had some but I was running out). Thanks for the advice! I’ll make sure to keep you updated!
Excuse me. Could you tell me how to contact and buy pan’s fish?
which country do you live? Pan has his own importers in some south east Asia countries.
这个奶牛兰寿是不是很贵?
是的，这种品质的奶牛兰寿比较贵几万块人民币
:3 i really want to have a cow ranchu, but i don’t know how to buy it.
where do you live? Pan has a few certified importers in several south east Asia countries.
hi bro, i want to buy wholesale price, dairy cow ranchu from pan farm. Can you recommend me? Thank you
Which country do you live? I have a few contacts for Malaysia
@@GoldfishCorner I am living in Vietnam, do you use facebook or skype.
Hello sir, please introduce some farm can export Chaina good fish. My e-mail leang97@yahoo.com. Thanks
I have one of those. Cow ranchu. Eggs can in on plants I ordered.
Lucky you, my friend. Congrats 🎈
where can I get some a milk cow ranchu?
Depending on where you are
@@GoldfishCorner I live in California. Any suggestions?
Contact Kevin from Goldfish Kingdom. Kevin is the only certified importer of Pan’s goldfish farms www.goldfishkingdom.com
@@GoldfishCorner Thank you!
@@GoldfishCorner is there any certified reseller in Indonesia i see there is a lot of not-so-cow ranchus seller here, that selling the blue base one or calico and claimed as a pure cow. Thx in adv.
I just found an ANCHOR WORM on my fish 🤢🤢🤢
Sorry for hearing that. Did you pick the worm off and treat them?
It was pretty late, but I think I’m going to buy some medicine at the store today. I think there might be another one on his belly, but it’s a lot deeper in and I was unable to get it off. Do you know what medicine would work best?
No show fish video but much talk
Well, Most of my Shorts videos are recorded at Pan’s Goldfish Farm in China. Did you get a chance to watch these Shorts videos?
Too bad Chinese ranchu have terrible wen structure
Goldfish is a culture symbol representing the breeding countries. Different countries or cultures have different appreciation of good or bad. “Critical Thinking” and “Open Mind” are the two balanced focal points, like the Ying-Yang
Very disappointed
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