The best scooter locks and how to use them
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
- BikeSocial explains why locking your moped or scooter up is so important. To read the review of these and many more security devices, click here: bit.ly/ScooterLocks
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Manufacturers need to come up with better security like Yamaha Tmax locking centre stands & steering locks that you can’t easily snap. Also what about an enclosed system that locks a pin through the back wheel up high so it’s angle grinder/tamper proof. Also bikes should have the option for motion detection cameras so you can film the car that knocks over your parked bike then drives off!
Well done. Worked as a locksmith for a number of years and you bang on. A well used cheaper lock is better then an expensive one you leave at home or in your top box.
Nathan LaBrie cheers! Thanks very much. John
Really great video, very insightful and helpful. Thanks so much!
Very helpful thank you.
I found this video extremely informative and it had great explanations given. Bravo 2 U. Oh ya and thank you!
Thanks that was very helpful
Good evening ⚠️ I am in the welding metallurgy and I grew up with grinders of all categories and my advice is to buy a disc lock according to the thickness of your disc, which means leaving no gap between the disc and the lock then it is best to close it in one of the deepest holes because with a grinder it is very easy to cut even stainless steel unless there is no space for the grinder disc to go between the two it will make the cut a bit difficult which means a few more minutes
If they used the same material they use for chainsaw trousers around the bike lock chains then when they tried to cut/grind through the chain it would foul up the cutting device, just a thought; ;-)
Really? Bro make something like that I'll be the first to buy it!
The thing they use to cut chains doesn’t have a chain to cut through the chain. It has a sharp serrated disc, therefore that wouldn’t work
The fabric does have a function in fouling the cutting disc, plus if you buy a decent chain made of manganese steel, it tends to throw shards off if ground or impacted. This also helps deter thieves as they don’t want their face turned into mince!! I lock my Fazer up on my drive with a Kryptonite chain with an integral lock,to a ground anchor.
Great video guys, last year I left London for sunny Spain but bike and scooter theft was out of control, couldn't leave your bike for 20 mins without some scrote having a look
Hope you like Spain, bring your money and family, you will be safer here my friend.
lazer tag 😂😂
7:46 Best advice I've ever seen!
I was first confused about the usage of a Pragmasis noose chain if I needed to lock the entire rear triangle and wheel of my bike to the seatpost if my only choice was to lock the chain to a thick post if there are no bike racks or railings in the area!
That's not a noose chain I'm showing - noose chains are great for looping around road furniture, then putting the single end link around a lock that's also attached to a wheel. I'm going to do an updated 'best security' video as soon as I can. Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial Yeah, I was talking about improvising a second noose-like chain effect in its normal end (after the chain sleeve is rolled up) given that the chain is already ran through its noose-end around a thick post so that its length would be fully utilized by interlocking its normal-end with just a small Roundlock by Pragmasis without using a cumbersome U-lock or Padlock.
This is especially applicable if I'm fastening the normal end of the chain to an electric scooter in its narrowest point inter-locked through one of its links with the small Pragmasis Roundlock (so it can't be loosened) after the chain is already wrapped around a thick lamppost through its noose-end without using the DIB U-lock.
Thanks for replying and cheers!
@@chaxologist2961 Ah, gotcha, sorry! All the best, John
awesome video.
Thanks 😮👍🏽
Good Review :) I personally recommend getting Full Insurance, Tracker, Chain with the Sound Alarm Lock ... the truth is if Thieves really want to steal the bike Unfortunately they WILL .. But we can make it HARDER for Them :)
My mopeds worth less than the things you listed ;)
@@chrike01 exactly.. Good security devices are very expensive.
Love what you said, If the thieves want it... So true
To keep my Kymco scooter safe I do the following: Use stainless steel (Inox) chains; Every loop in the chain should have a lock - i.e. one piece of chain through two wheels and the frame needs two locks; CHANGE the factory ignition lock KEY INSERT - ESPECIALLY HONDA; on electric start scooters - remove the kick start arm; insert an On / Off fuel tap in fuel line (a carburetor of fuel might get them started but not far down the road); fit two ignition disablers in SERIES (one a hidden touch point and the other an RFID); fit TWO ALARMS (and make sure the wiring looks like OEM cabling).
I have all these fitted to my scoot - and even more.
Dang!! You must need to leave for work 45 minutes EARLY to do all that when you get there!!
What prevents someone from just driving away with it in their van or truck? Serious question. I just bought a lance cabo 125cc scooter
@@blue-eyed-bandit Lock back wheel to a solid object with at least a 13mm chain, put alarmed disk lock at the front and also engage steering lock. Only an idiot would go through the trouble to steal a 125 with this security.
All good points but at 5:33 you're putting a u-lock through the front wheel of a Vespa and this doesn't work. The front wheel comes of in seconds with the U-lock still attached. Going through the forks is doable but often difficult. Best to use a disk lock on the front and a U-lock on the rear. The grip locks on the handlebar are a joke though and shouldn't be promoted as security.
can those locks be picked?
@@karimareyes3992 The only place locks are ever picked is on films. Thieves tend to use bolt cutters or battery driven grinders. In the case of a grip lock they can just use a small spanner.
You shouldn’t just pass a chain through the wheel, the wheel can be removed and the bike taken away, A bit of extra advice, if you are gonna pass a chain through the wheel wrap it around the swing arm or the bikes frame for extra security. I have 2 ground anchors with chains and locks going through the frame, a rubber coated braided rope with a lock that goes through the frame and locked to the rear disc brake, disc lock on the front wheel, 2 disc locks on the rear wheel, and lastly a completely zipped up cover, all in a locked garage.
I'd say your pretty well set m8
Congrats 100k
Thanks very much!
@@bennettsbikesocial welcome 😍 from Kerala
Lol imagine someone casually carrying an anvil
I use the abus. Works well in my experience.
i had an abus lock and it was easily opened in berlin and my bike was stolen :(
Thanks
Hi, whats your recommendation for locking bike using 16mm chain without using solid anchor or lamp posts ? How would you lock the chain for having 100% of security ? I know that the rear tyre is the best option but still any tips on that ? Thanks
One lock on its own will not prevent a lift and shift theft unless you have chained it to an immovable object. My last bike was just picked up by a gang of 4 who dumped it at the bottom of the road. If they cannot push it away to steal it then there is the risk of it being wrecked. Also cameras are no great deterrent as they will just conceal their identity.
Buy a heavy bike like a goldwing. joke.
Yeah, it seems both have pros and cons
He said a gang of 4. Guess how many guys it takes to get my CB900 into the back of a pickup.
Thank u
This video covered everything for me , only other upgrade I could think of is to not own anything ?
Whats the best lock for a Vespa Sprint?
Too bad that the video doesn't really show how to secure your bike. For example, never have your look on the pavement as shown since it's too easy to brake but on a higher level (top of the wheel for example). Have two security like brake look in front and chain on the rear. Finally, park on a street with traffic and attach your bike to a hard point!
This video gave me half the info I was looking for, your comment gave me the other half.
I’m by flint michigan even though the city I do live in is pretty crime free and my RX-50 is always outside so I’m being precautious and using both a disc brake alarm lock with one of those u-locks around the wheel to keep ‘em from being able to steal it without someone noticing ehehehe
The two outer legs of a *D* lock, should really consist of *two high tensile steel INNER leg tubes* , that are freely able to turn around an actual high tensile steel inner core that originates from the the lock body. This eliminates using a hacksaw, so that if the would be thief did manage to cut through the outer steel casing, and the saw contacts the free turning rod inside, it's game over for cutting further, as the saw will merely revolve the inner steel tube. I imagine a set of bolt cutters might do it and if not, a hand held angle grinder's cutting disc would seemingly meet with the same problem as the hacksaw. One can always back it up with a GPS bike tracker, that'll have the Police paying the perps a visit...
Litelok and Hiplok are the best on the market! They are grinder-resistant! I will take 3 grinder wheels to cut them!
I didn't hear anything you said. Too busy admiring that orange scooter with those badass racks
The problem with the example at 4:45 is that a thief would just cut the brake so if you are going to use them security devices make sure its attached to the frame or the rear wheel.
where can I get a red Bennetts Bike jacket, like this one you are wearing?
This is a helpful video, but it's also funny. "Here's a great way to lock your bike this way. Now, of course, this can be easily defeated."
Yea it's like intentionally contradicting his method of mobile security with the bike lock
Do any of these keep the scooter being lifted and put in a truck or van?
A vintage scooter with solid rims and drum brakes?
Great video!!! I agree we should see how the crooks steal them so we know how the locks fair up
Any recommendations for a bike with drum brakes I use my bike for deliveries so im only ever leaving it for 5 minutes
What are the pros and cons of the grip lock ?? I’m planning to buy one thank you !
www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/security/scooter-security-and-disc-locks/datatool-croc-lock-review
all those locks are for the wheels..a friend of ours had his vespa locked with chains on a lamppost..came back and found the wheel with the lock on the lamppost but the rest was gone.
For much better security always chain the rear wheel to a post, that way they can't just remove the front wheel and steal the rest of your scooter.
Hi, I've got a DIB D 190. What's the best way to lock a 2005 Honda SH125i
I have been disgruntled at the lack of choice & few options of scooters here in Canada but at least with the few choices we have, we are not plagued with scooter theft to the degree you are in the UK. I suspect that is simply because full size larger motorcycles are far more common & desirable here & thus the main target for theft. I rode motorcycles of all sizes for many years but at my age I much prefer scooters. I do wish we had all the choices you have in the UK but at least for now they don't seem to be popular targets for thieves. Of course they are prone to theft but not as much as big expensive motorcycles.
4 parking in house yeah i agree..but 4 those commute on daily,working everyday..i dun recomend..da less i can do is using 2 padlock..1 heavy duty,n another 1 with alarm built in..plus park where r cctv r there..dats all..motive here 4 slow it down when their was trying to steal
QUESTION.!?!?
How about the smaller disc brake lock with the motion alarm, are they easy to pick or disable? And what about the motion alarm/remote start, are they easy to silence in a minimal amount of time? Thank you for the video, I learned a lot. I had 2 brand new Tao Tao
150's stolen from my backyard. Granted I was naive with security and only had a small/cheap disc lock w/o alarm and they broke them off easily.
Scooters are hard as you tend to have to use a disc lock with a smaller locking pin - they're easier to get off with a claw hammer. They're still better than nothing of course! A chain and lock is your best bet if you can pop it under your seat.
Locks are very, very rarely picked - if at all - on bikes and scooters. Alarms are a useful addition, even if it's just to raise your attention. Ultimately, a chain and lock with a cover is your best bet. Cheers, John
@@bennettsbikesocial Ok, and Thanks again! I just ordered a cover, U-lock, and chain(all the ones you recommended in the video)!
Does unrestricting it make it go alittle faster ?
Yes
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how to order on that scooter motor lock?
Hey Bennett or anyone lurking here, what are you thoughts on the kryptonite fahgetaboutit mini (18mm) for scooter/vespa? And alternatively the abus ultra scooter 402 (11mm).
I've not tried them, but hopefully this will help. Cheers, John www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/security/scooter-security-and-disc-locks/the-best-scooter-locks-and-how-to-use-them
Someone tried stealing my taotao threw a single shot at em never had anyone else try
sorry for silly question but is there a reason y the focus was on the front and not the back wheel? as a cyclist - thinking of moving to a scooter, I link both. Is there a difference re security?
Convenience mainly, but it's access to the brake disc
Quite informative and I understand that no security measures are infallible but unless your bike is actually attached to something like a floor anchor or similar them I wouldn't put it past them to actually lift and put into the back of a van or something like that
Absolutely, though the most common theft is a push-away using another scooter in London... partly because getting a van in there is such a pain in the bum!
Bruh I’m just trying to lock my razor scooter
Same e300?
Me too.
😃😀😃
What is "bruh"?
in the US, my friend lost her scooter by them just picking it up and placed it in their truck... There's not a lot of lamp post in parking garages to attach to. :/
This is what i was thinking..200-250 lbs, put it in the truck and drive away
can we put chain to somewhere else other than tyres.. because tyres will be dirty.. and we have to sit everytime.. it will not be cool stylish.. everyone will see us sitting on ground to lock unlock
Ignition immobilisers fitted to bikes are more harm than good as they just give you a false sense of security. Yobs will still wheel the bike away then just smash it up if they can't get it going. Huge muther of a chain locked to railings is the best and only way. Disc locks are useless too as they unbolt the disc.
Don't thieves only need to drill out the lock mechanism or even break it inside to unlock it? Just asking...
1st Rule spend at least 20% of the value of the vehicle on the chain, chain need to be 13 mm thick minimum, 6 faced chains are best, and use the best Lock money can buy.
Lock it to something sturdy and fix in the street.
I prefer a .40 Caliber.
Can someone tell me what is the best option out of these? Going to get a moped really soon.
Litelok X3 is the toughest D lock I've tested
how do these stop someone from picking them up and putting them in the back of a truck
These on amazon
I uses GPS with kill swtich so that I can kill the engine anywhere in the country just a simple text and the GPS will send you also the location.
Where do you get this?
@@justice7788 i don't know in your country but we have this in philippines.
What is the brand or make of this GPS with the kill switch
what is the length of the pragmasis chain?
You can get it in various lengths so choose which is best for your bike and where you want to secure it
Bennetts Bike the one in the video looks an ideal length, what length is it?
I'm afraid I can't remember - shot that a couple of years ago. It's likely to be no more than 1.5m. John
To assert that we must protect our scooters because they may be used as weapons is ludicrous.
Wondering about tracking devices .
www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/security/trackers/best-motorcycle-tracker
A thief dont usually spend time bringing tools to remove the lock. Most likely, its easier to wait for the rider to turn the scooter on, point a gun, and steal it. For me, It would be better for you to install a gps tracker, alarm and wireless way to turn off the engine.
Damn this just deterred me from getting a scooter in the first place.
I had a good u lock and still my bicycle got stolen
Why do you keep going on about London,not everyone in the country lives in London you know.
Is this a video for owners or for thieves? :)) i know alot more about stealing bikes now
You know a lot more about what the thieves already know, which makes you better equipped to beat them!
4:52 but I mean, you need a huge back pack to carry all that shit
When i buy my vespa i'm getting a disk lock for the front, a U-lock for the rear and getting a chain to tie it down somewhere. AND i'm putting a tracker on my scooter. I ain't taking no chances with these damn motorcycle thieves.
Never chain your front wheel, the wheel can be easily removed
How can we'll lock the battery box? Someone at 3am, unscrewed the battery top and stoled my moped battery
If you are locking the front wheel. Can’t you just unbolt the wheel and take the rest of the bike?
Yes, though that's a less likely form of attack. Locking the rear wheel is preferable. Cheers, John
awesome video, thank you. And I am sorry you guys are experiencing this bullshit. I guess all big cities have this issue. Thank God I live in God's waiting room!
LOCK back-tire takes longer!!!
Carry a mini samurai sword. Cuts thieves cleanly .
Not much stopping someone from throwing the whole thing i their truck and taking off with it.
I lock my bike but the thieves pick up my bike.
All these going thru front wheel 🤷♂️🙄
Great video...but I still find the firearm to be the best deterrent. ;)
Waste of time with battery powered angle grinders around
what about locks ?? even if we use a chain.. lockes can be picked easily.. so which is a thiefproof LOCK ??
Contrary to what you see on CZcams in a nice comfortable room with practice and - in the case of people like LPL - extreme skill, picking is not an issue on motorcycle locks unless they really have a blinding flaw, like the very old round barrels that could be opened with a pen (which was soon changed). Nothing is 'thiefproof', but everything offers varying levels of protection through the difficulty a criminal will have in getting through them.
Oh yeah 😎. HART 20v Angle grinder without battery available from Walmart for $44. WTF? Oh yeah 😎.
Cut out a piece of the disc and lock falls off lol
Yes, which is why disc locks are far from perfect, but better than nothing. czcams.com/video/eosFWnE9oaE/video.html
You really really need to lock the back wheel it's super easy to take off the front wheel. All of this is useless on the front wheel for real
A bullet. Would stop a thief
A small man can sneak under your cover and use a battery operated angle grinder to defeat the locks. I don't like it. He'll be unseen as he's doing the crime.
sure wish I could understand your accent more. i cant follow what your saying about each one???
Get a skunk lock
So the best way to prevent theft is to just take your scooter inside your home/apartment...
Good idea I should use her as my lamp table since I barely fit in my micro studio apartment. 😂😂😂
Facts that what I do lol you good as long at home when go out to store or Wal-Mart just park it by cameras
@JAY NISMO yeah G but get good lock
He's also telling people how to steal scooters lol
In romania theives are poor lazy and uneducated so even a damn wire can stop your scooter from being stolen
Forget all these shit locks..buy an ABUS GRANITE U LOCK
Good coverage but none of these devices would hold up longer than a few minutes unfortunately.
"A large proportion are taken with teenagers using no tools". 50% of the scooters in London aren't locked at all - here we're addressing convenient kit that'll deter the thieves who are simply pushing away unsecured machines, then going on to use them in violent crimes.
We have destruction tested all of them, and the results are in the link, but we've also tested much heavier duty locks here: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/security/motorcycle-chains-and-locks
You could use a Kriega bag...
Here's a silly thought:
I'm afraid dogs will piss on my chain and, when I go to unlock the scooter in the morning, I end up with canine piss on my hands.
Oh yeah 😎. Unfortunately most Scooters weigh about 22 kg or 200 pounds 🤔 so 2 dudes can pickup and load into pickup truck 🚚 🤔 bye bye
Giving people IDEAS on how to steal other people’s property. Huh?
wow comparing leaving your vehicle unlocked to leaving a gun on the street . reality check if we funded and managed the police correctly we shouldnt need to spend hundreds on locks
I was able to steal 3 scooters thanks to this video.❌❌❌