Volkswagen Audi How to change a FIS screen
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- How to change out a FIS screen from a VAG based gauge unit.
Wie man ein FIS schirm austauschen kann.
Hoe men een FIS scherm van een VAG auto vervangen kan.
Due to ever returning questions:
The LCD cluster used is SED1560TOB
dimensions: 74 x 58 mm
Fitment:
For audi A3/S3 8L Series 1996-2003
For audi TT 8N Series from 1999-2006
For audi A6 C5 4B Series 1997-2004 Bosch or Jaeger Only
For audi A4/S4/RS4 B5 Series 1995-2001
For audi A6/S6/RS6 C5 4B Series 1997-2004
For audi Allroad C5 Series 1999-2005
For audi RS4 B5 Series 2000-2001
Volkswagen Passat B5 y B5 facelift (3B y 3BG),
Volkswagen JETTA / BORA,
Volkswagen T4 and T5,
Volkswagen Golf 4,
Volkswagen Polo,
Volkswagen Sharan
for Skoda Fabia, Octavia I, Superb I
for Seat VDO
for Seat Alhambra
You can find it on aliexpress.com
search query: Brand New VDO LCD CLUSTER Display Screen For Audi A3 A4 A6 for Volkswagen Golf Passat for VW Skoda LCD Dashboard Repair Screen
Bench testing the VW T4 cluster unit
If you have a cluster unit with a green and a blue connector at the rear of the unit, you need the blue connector.
In that blue connector purple/red, red and red/purple go to +12V. From those 3 lines solder them together, and connect 2 lines. 1 of the 2 goes into the OBD connector, the other to the external power supply.
Next line is gray/red, that lines goes into the OBD connector (K-line).
Next line is blue/purple -- connect to external 12V.
The last 3 lines: black/yellow, black and black/brown solder together and connect 3 lines to them. 2 of them go into the mass positions in the OBD connector.
The third one do you connect to the minus of the external powersupply.
Now you should be able the bench-test your VW T4 clusterunit at a table.. With kind regards and good luck. Just leave me a message at eldiape.com guestbook
With best regards
Peter
Waiting on some refreshed gauge inserts, cannot wait to fix this screen!
Ah.... "Saltwater" by Chicane. That takes me back. SOOOOO many good remixes of that song. I miss college. :(
Very Impressive...Mad Skills...!!! Well Done...!!! The lights in my cluster are very dim...odometer at 380,087 km...you make such a daunting task, look almost easy enough to do...!!!
If you have a cluster unit with a green and a blue connector at the rear of the unit, you need the blue connector.
In that blue connector purple/red, red and red/purple go to +12V.
From those 3 lines solder them together, and connect 2 lines. 1 of the 2 goes into the OBD connector, the other to the external power supply.
Next line is gray/red, that lines goes into the OBD connector (K-line).
Good Video, I guess I have to do this before summer. At the moment (~10°C or colder) the FIS works well.
I almost thought you wont answer special thanks that you did.
With my OBD interface I can read the Eeprom through the OBD port in case the Cluster is on the car. I allready have the necessary software (Vag eeprom commander).
Thanks for taking the time to video this!
Great video, thanks.
Great video, very precise and informative, cool music!
Keep up the good job!
Thank you.
Hello,
After a few hours of using the screen, the solderings will become a bit warmer, with contact problems as a result. Soldering the connections back again, makes them like new and could possibly solve the problem.
Wish you luck with your repair..
Nice Music from Video Chicane feat. Bryan Adams Don't give up (original mix)
Your like some kind of soldiering god!
thanks
have u Maudi a3 with VDO KOMBI panel, the marker not fuel brand, the VAG I see the resistance of the sensor and test the pointer and it's all ok, when I calibrate it works but when I add more fuel it will not go up and down until 0 of the fuel. the sensor and the tank again, the hands work, not accusing any errors in the panel.
this video helped me a lot. thank you
Will the mk5 instrument cluster fit into the mk4? And be able to use the screen? I like those white and amber color better than the blue. That's played out now, blue cluster gauges with amber colored lights everywhere else on the radio and climate control and all the buttons. They probably sell a kit to make them white or fit the green mk3 buttons and climate control knobs. Even that would be better but I like the chrome around the tachometer and speedometer and gauges
Great tutorial!
At minute 14;12 You conect the interface to the cluster in order to make the test with Vag Com. How can I connect my interface to the cluster to read its eeprom? How can I do this in a room having the Cluster on my desk in front of my PC and not on the car. Thanks!
have a audi a3 with VDO KOMBI panel, the fuel marker not mark the VAG I see the resistance of the sensor and test the pointer and it's all ok, when I calibrate it works but when I add more fuel it will not go up and down until 0 of the fuel. the sensor and the tank again, the hands work, not accusing any errors in the panel.
maybe your tankelement is defect inside your fueltank? Have you thought about that?
Hello, thanks for your message. Yes, it should be about the same..
how do you calibrate the needls? just by running the test and manually move them where they should be? if i pulled one out with the metal stuff that goes in the coil, means the coil is done and needs replacing?
Hello T4centrum, is it the same process for vw Passat 3bg?
Thank you
I have read yr comments but am still confused as to where does the3 lines, purple/red, red and red/purple wire comes from which pin number it is connected from the instrument cluster? And also from which pin number from the cluster the grey/ red wire is connected? From the OBD, pin 4 and5 connects to which wire and pin number to the cluster? Thank you, your help is much appreciated.
I've shown how this works on a Volkswagen T4 cluster unit, and I've commented on the questions regarding the wiring. Should it should be clear. If you've got a different car, the wiring and pin-numbers could be different.
And I don't have the need to figure this out for other carbrands and different models..
Thanks! All of a sudden a lot of views in a short period of time. How did you get to this video? Was it linked on a forum somewhere?
I have the same problem, thats all
Entschuldigung für die Frage, ist es möglich, die Beleuchtungsfarbe des Displays von der Originalfarbe auf eine andere zu ändern, wie z. B. Weiß oder Hellblau in einem Passat B6? dankbar, wenn du mir antwortest
hi,
i wanna change the 12 leds color red for 12 in blue, where is the + and -? because i need to switch on lights (like at night)
thanks for help
My interface works on the same pins 16 for 12v, 7for K line and 4&5 for mass. If I am right I only the pin 7 do need to make the connection to the cluster (but on the cluster WHERE?) Thanks again
i have a similar problem.. Whenever it is cold outside the display is all bright and light up in all parts of the lcd! but after some hours driving on long trips.. the pixels will die slowly but steady until 1/4 is gone on the left side.
same problem ? change lcd in the dashhousing ?
great job thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Hallo nice video! I have an Audi TT MK2 instrument cluster, the one with only one 32 pins blue connector, I wish to connect to the PC but I can't find the pinout of that connector can you help me? Thank you in advance!
Nice video
Thanks videó
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How are you connected to the cluster while running the vagcom tests? It's on a bench, not in the car. Might be helpful to show vagcom to cluster connection.
rfn944 If you have a cluster unit with a green and a blue connector at the rear
of the unit, you need the blue connector.
In that blue connector purple/red, red and red/purple go to +12V.
From those 3 lines solder them together, and connect 2 lines. 1 of the 2
goes into the OBD connector, the other to the external power supply.
Next line is gray/red, that lines goes into the OBD connector (K-line).
You just need and extra OBD connector (partnumber eg 3A0 972 695 A )
@pin 16 +12V
@pin 7 K-line or canbus
@pin 4 and 5 connect to mass
You need an external powersupply as well,
And for your aid, special software which is capable of reading the eeprom, like VAGdash.
Whish you succes and please let me know if it worked out for you..
Hope this helps
T4centrum Thanks for the reply. What wire in the blue connector is 12vdc ground? Do you know the pin numbers in the blue connector for ground, the 3 positive 12v, and the K-Line?
hello friend.I have a vw polo 9n 2004.my vw it can't finish the speed up to 220klm.h its stop to 140klm.h.why
Hi, doing the removal of the old screen, some of the ones on the circuit board came of. any suggestions? :(
if you want a reliable solution, try a new PCB for the unit.. Otherwise it will be unsatisfactionary.
Audi A 4 B7 2006 2.0TDI S Line. My instrument cluster has got a 32 pins blue and green plugs. Which pin number to use to do a bench testing and also to connect to OBD? I have a VCDS software. a prompt reply will be much appreciated.
Robin Panchoo it's been mentioned before, and already answered. See below in the comments.
which cables you use to check if all the pixels remain,
when you do not have the speedometer in your car
+Michael Andersson For which car??
+Michael Andersson For Golf Mk4 see this Link: forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4152355-pin-out-diagram-for-the-cluster
You need to connect Power and Ground Terminals and K-Line to your OBD Adapter if you want to use VAGCOM/VCDS.
For other cars google: [CAR MODEL] cluster pinout
Hi, i have problem on my golf 4,i have half display. Sometimes he turn on for couple minutes, then turn off... How i can fix this problem? Just new display or i can try something?
solder all the contacts
Some online repair shops say they can't fix cluster with analog clock/ are we just shit out of luck if that's the one we have? Mine gets dimmer with time.
fair play to you i wouldnt have the patients for this ....
i need to repair my cluster, i need to replace some led's can you tell me what kind of led's the clocks use
No I can't help you on that one
where did you get exactly that display
I just have updated the description so please have a view into that.
It was done because of returning questions about where have you bought your screen, and how to wire and connect the clusterunit for testing it on the table.
What LCD screen you need for your car depends on different things like:
- brand of the car,
- type of the car eg. golf 4,
- year of the car,
- what clusterbrand you have: VDO magneti Marelli, Jaeger
- and the size of the LCD screen and how many connections it has.
T4centrum and how to know how connectors has my display? I dont know even to open the tacho. I have writen you before, hooe you help me.
Sorry, if you ask this type of question, I think you don't have the skills to fullfill this properly.
Hello, can you tell me which kind of soldering iron did you use in the LCD repair? Also, where can I find the LCD spare part?
Simon Avila soldering Iron was a soldering station from Weller and the FIS screens you can find on Ebay.com
+Simon Avila The FIS costs about 30-40$ in China (Aliexpress). Cheaper than some on eBay but I guess they are the same.
Golf4.org can you give me a link? I didnt found anything on Aliexpress
I have the same problem in my Golf4. I bought it with some damaged pixels, and after 2 years it is totally red. You cant read nothing. Can you give me a link where i can buy the same screen as in the video. I hope this in video is the same as mine golf 4 Highline full display.
Hi mate, try this store: www.minitools.com they have a lot of displays.
Bonjour je désir faire un banc d essaie pour les compteurs de TT de cher audi avez vous un schéma pour le branchement
Sehr gutes Video! Wie habt ihr diese Testbank gebaut? Auf welche Kontakte muss Strom?
Just see below for some questions and comments. This is already explained, but is very dependable on which car it is for. The mentioned wires are for a vw T4, only for that I know sure.
Hello..
Please answer me.. How i can get rid of the speed warning?
I cant make it silent after 120KM..
Thanks..
+salem alonizan you neet to change the region of instrument cluster.
+salem alonizan Which car and cluster unit? The movie is about a VW T4.
Hello
Can you please tell me where can I buy the new lcd screen, I have exactly the same problem.
Thanks a lot for you're support
Bruno Miguel Rocha the current suppliers of this screen I don 't know.
Thanks a lot
If you have a link whre I can find it for sale please tell me
Minitools.it
I'd like to see these made.
hello.
where can I buy / order a lcd. because I have a similar problem.
Thank you. a beautiful day
Hi, i read the previous posts but i dont understand how can i test my dashboard outside of my car. I got the vag com, i already by the blue connector and the obd connector. I dont know what cable connects where, can you please tell me in more details wich connector cable colors connects where. Thanks
+Sérgio Félix Hello,
I can help you,
but first an easy question:
What dashboard type, year and brand are you talking about?
Regards Peter
www.eldiape.com
contact me over the website please
its a3 8l dashboard
+Sérgio Félix Have you seen the more text after ...are you talking about? Please click read more...
And contact me over my website which is mentioned there.. ;-) But audi A3 is not comparable to VW T4. But we can give it a try..
+T4centrum your website is in netherlands, and i dont understand, the translate doesnt work, if you prefer send me you email. My dashboard has got the same blue and obd connecter like you have in your movie.
+Sérgio Félix see this page and use the lowest link in that page: www.eldiape.com/tuningmo2/tuningmo2.htm with this link You'll send an email, and I'll come back to you.. (blue text: hier)
can you please tell me how did you connect the instrument with your pc? which program have you used?
Hello,
I just vagcom or VCDS software for that. And for the electrical connections; see below
Where can i buy this software and those electrical connectiona?
Klevis Bardhi
Hello, what do you think about ebay? Or obdfactory . com. The connectors you can find at your local scrapyard, any VW audi, seat or Skoda could provide you with an OBD connector..
T4centrum
Ok i will search for this software.thank you
Golf 4 hız göstergesi ışıkları yakınca çalışıyor rica etsem bana yardımcı olabilirmisiniz tamir etmek istiyorum göstergenin diagramını bulamadım
Please try to ask your question in English, your language I can't understand. Sorry for that.
how do you and what do you need to bench test the cluster
Sorry, but just have a look at the comments, it's already explained there. This is only described for a VW T4 dashboard cluster. Other brands or types may differ from wiringcolours.
How do you power the cluster outside of the car?
Hi Seb,
that's already mentioned in the comments below.. Just have a view in the questions. Regards Peter
why you putting needles in this way? i dont understant why to twist them from midle position?
Because it works for me this way
Waar kan ik dit laten repareren ?
Thats good but, with the money for this instrument i buy a new tacho :P
Hello, just use ebay anduse as searchquery fis+display
Success !
Is this the exact same unit for a Skoda octavia Mk1?
I don't know
Beste Peter,
ik heb vandaag geprobeerd het fis scherm te repareren echter is dit mislukt. Ik heb een passat 3bg uit 2000. Ik heb de teller teruggeplaatst echter start de auto niet (slaat aan vervolgens af door de startonderbreker) en werken alleen de displays van de km voor de rest brandt er geen accu lampje of dergelijke. Weet u misschien waar het probleem zit?
Lijkt er op dat de printplaat te warm is geworden of beschadigd. Ik weet geen andere oplossing anders dan een andere tellerunit te plaatsen en eepromdata van wegrijbokkering over te kopiëren.
@@T4centrum bedankt voor uw reactie. Ik heb vagcom, kan ik daarmee de epromdata overkopiëren?
@@rizeup4812 nee daar heb je vagtacho of vagcommander voor nodig
@@T4centrum bedankt voor uw snelle reacties fijne avond
Funktioniert das auch ohne die Instrumente zu testen?
Ja geht auch ohne zu Testen
Are the bulbs on the board replaceable or do you need a new cluster?
+Adam Jefferson There are no bulps, only LED's. And they are soldered on the PCB. So if you can solder, you could replace them. Type of LED's, I don't know.
+T4centrum thanks, the seller said "lights on the dash weren't working" so I assumed gauge lights but it was actually the screen, so this video is perfect.
+T4centrum
hello Mr
+T4centrum
my vw polo 9n 2004petrol.it can't finished the speed up to 220klmh.why?it stopped at 140 kml.h
because your engine can't reach that speed?
Or the needle is not placed correctly, faulty speedsignal from wiring, or your unit is broken
audi geht mit heissluft an platinen????
where connect the obd 2 to odometer with the odometer outside the vehicule?
***** It is already mentioned below, so read carefully ;-)
T4centrum Thanks for the reply. What wire in the blue connector is 12vdc ground? Do you know the pin numbers in the blue connector for ground, the 3 positive 12v, and the K-Line?
***** see below, already mentioned about 8 months ago
T4centrum You wrigth..
Tanks!
Wo bekomme ich das Anschlußkabel vom PC zum Ki?
PS. Die Anleitung ist Sehr Gut!!!!
Peter Schröder Look at ebay and search for vagcom cable or VCDS cable
Was genau ist das da für ein Entlöt Teil ab 5:21? Von Weller?
ja genau, von Weller
Where did you purchase the fis screen from?
Jared Wilcox ebay.com
I have the very same issue. The heck with all of this trouble, Im just gonna buy a new part, too easy for me.... I would screw it up
some have the skills and some have them not but have the money to buy a new cluster unit.
It is what is is.
why wolkswagon fis screen shoving only (ok).pls tell me
samitha perera I don't know
long press up button, select trip computer from menu
Next line is blue/purple ---> connect to external 12V.
The last 3 lines: black/yellow, black and black/brown solder together and connect 3 lines to them. @ of them go into the mass positions in the OBD connector. The third one do you connect to the minus of the external powersupply.
Now you should be able the bench-test your clusterunit at a table..
With kind regards and good luck.
Just leave me a message at eldiape.com guestbook :-)
cabel to test dashboard offboard i need??
+Michael Andersson I don't understand your question, so can you be more precise? And for what instrument cluster you want to have/test it?
+Michael Andersson I use dupont wires (cheap from China) for that and of course the OBD USB Interface
You just need and extra OBD connector (partnumber eg 3A0 972 695 A )
@pin 16 +12V
@pin 7 K-line or canbus
@pin 4 and 5 connect to mass
You need an external powersupply as well,
And for your aid, special software which is capable of reading the eeprom, like VAGdash.
Whish you succes and please let me know if it worked out for you..
T4centrum hey man can you check the display without using the computer program? I would like to just find the correct pins to light up the display after o fix it to make sure it's fixed will in not display any information without vadcom?
where can i buy a screen for a 2005 vw touareg ?
Hello, I don't know. Maybe you have to figure out yourself. With best regards Peter
www.ebay.com/itm/VOLKSWAGEN-VW-TOUAREG-VDO-INSTRUMENT-SPEEDOMETER-CLUSTER-LCD-SCREEN-2004-2007-V6-/151790278423?vxp=mtr&hash=item235767d717
hy, can you repar my FIS? kann du mein FIS reparieren? grüsse aus Vecht abei Oldenburg...
Hi there! I wonder if you can help? I know you have made a comment about the LCD part number, but i have a choice of at least 2 options. Which is the right one please, because i'm very unsure. Thank you in advance! :-)
1. www.mte.net/lcd-display-for-audi-a2-audi-a3-audi-a4-audi-a6-vw-skoda-seat-vdo-dashboards
2. www.mte.net/catalog/dashboard-display/lcd-display-for-vdo-and-jaeger-magneti-marelli-clusters
that depends for what car it is.. Just look als your own instrument cluster and look for the brand shown.
it's for a Bora Sport 2000 mate. Full FIS. i'm confused as hell by all the different styles and such on ebay and aliexpress and other places! this (www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VDO-LCD-For-Audi-A3-A4-A6-Durable-Replacement-Cluster-Speedometer-Display-Screen/332458279406?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D51002%26meid%3Dd57faf79ac784554875c51a2b339f863%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D112953122775%26itm%3D332458279406&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A169ba421-499a-11e8-a019-74dbd180dded%7Cparentrq%3A03e439dd1630aa6fd7bf5d4efff71540%7Ciid%3A1) is yet another version... according to what you said about 'SED1560TOB' it would appear to be correct... but again, i'm just not sure! :-(
Hello. Yes it took some time to edit it, but the video shows the procedure and some skills.
This one is nice too :-) eldiape.com/downloadmap/koplampen.htm
How much this cost ..need to know
At the time I've exchanged the FIS screen, that costed 40 euro, last year it was already over 90 euro. just have a look at ebay.com and aliexpress.com for advertisements. The skills is priceless. If you don't trust yourself, then there are companies in Germany who exchange the FIS-screen for you for about 140 euro including 1 year of warranty. look at pixelfehler.de good luck!
Die FIS im Cluster ist in meinem Audi A4 1.8T Quattro versagt. Die schnellste, die ich beschleunigte, ist 235 km / h. Ich habe angefangen, ängstlich zu werden und beschlossen zu verlangsamen .. Sie wissen, wo man Teile bekommen? Ich habe Audi in Deutschland kontaktiert, aber ich habe keine Antwort erhalten. Ich habe Familienmitglieder in Berlin, aber sie sind älter, also will ich sie nicht mit Ortungs- und Versandteilen stören. Kontaktieren Sie mich, wenn Sie helfen können. Ich bin körperlich behindert und wäre dankbar für jede Hilfe, die du anbieten kannst.
Danke vielmals
Es gibt auch Firmen die sich darum kummern, zb www.pixelfehler24.de/ oder www.kfzpix.de/ und die liefern mit Garantie. Also es gibt Hilfe :-)
hello
please please explain me this
-------If you have a cluster unit with a green and a blue connector at the rear
of the unit, you need the blue connector.
In that blue connector purple/red, red and red/purple go to +12V.
From those 3 lines solder them together, and connect 2 lines. 1 of the 2
goes into the OBD connector, the other to the external power supply.
Next line is gray/red, that lines goes into the OBD connector (K-line).
You just need and extra OBD connector (partnumber eg 3A0 972 695 A )
@pin 16 +12V
@pin 7 K-line or canbus
@pin 4 and 5 connect to mass------
power supply???? can i use battery of my car
i don t undestand this: In that blue connector purple/red, red and red/purple go to +12V.
i don t understand this too: From those 3 lines solder them together, and connect 2 lines. 1 of the 2 goes into the OBD connector, the other to the external power supply.
thank you to answear me
Please be sure, the video describes a VW T4 cluster unit.
Other brands and types can differ in wiring coloring and pin positions.
Just make a drawing and do it as I've did and it works.
So 3 wires in and 2 out eg.
For the power I've used a table powersupply because that was much more convenient, but a small car battery could work too
thank you for the answear.........:)
i want to make a standard bench test for all instrument cluster with bleu connector with vag com......it this possible ??? or pin out of bleu connectors are different According to the cars?
Audi A6 -04 same as the movie
+Michael Andersson Sorry can't help you, the odometer in the movie is for a VW Transporter T4 and the pins inside the connectors will differ.
audi a6 04
ebay.de/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=fis+display&_frs=1
Great video! I bought my screen from German Audio Tech and it worked perfectly
www.ebay.com/itm/391232488248
die hälfte der arbeitsschitte ist völliger unsinn. --2 schrauben-tacho raus- vorher 3stecker ab- plastikscheibe abmachen-klicksystem, fis tauschen-zusammenbau-einbau-fertig
fake video
Waiting on some refreshed gauge inserts, cannot wait to fix this screen!
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