SCOOP 2018 - Deep Run 8max High Roller!
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- čas přidán 19. 05. 2018
- Day 1 + 2 of the SCOOP $530 8max High Roller. The Day 2 stream was insanely hype! The amount of support was incredible, we even broke our viewer record! We got up to 18.3K viewers, thank you guys so much, enjoy!
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Never seen so many cbets get through uncontested
I almost never comment on CZcams, but I've HAD to comment 3 times on your vids b/c they are so damn good. Keep up the awesome content
The K9s was a disaster for 25bb. With a guy who is pretty much priced in to call in the BB the SB has no real reason to mess with you.
Indeed that was a stupid move.
Always time stamp a comment like this ty
I think you can infer that it was the very last hand. So start 10 seconds from the end and watch. You're not smart.....
uhh you realize k9s is way above 50% right so he doesnt care about a call from bb? lol
BakaRaymoo the big blind isn’t the issue. The bb has to call petty much anything so Lex should be folding some hands he would normally open. No point opening 67s with no fold equity right? So a min raise on the button should be a stronger range in the sb eyes because of the lack of fold equity from the bb. There is literally no reason for the sb to get out of line vs Lex in this spot so min raise folding doesn’t make you exploitable with a hand like K9s. Yes it’s a profitable shove but it’s not a losing raise / fold either.
K9!!!!!! Vs chip leader))) no play
You guys have to be literally the most results oriented people ever.
Raise/folding off of a 25BB stack with K9 is easily the worst of the 3 options since we are going to get literally punished by the SB or any decent player who has any two cards. Stealing with a hand isn’t raise-folding to aggression when OVERALL we have them both crushed.
THE FACT HE WOKE UP WITH IT DOESN’T MAKE IT A BAD SHOVE. How results oriented can you be? Has anyone actually put that spot into ICMizer or have any of the charts from Bencb or Upswing? K9s is in there and thats to avoid being outplayed.
Also remember we are on the FT bubble right? That means everyone elses range needs to be EXTREMELY tight to call, not just ours. Passive play gets destroyed and losing 2.2BB’s unprofitably when shoving 25 there is for sure profitable makes no sense
Anthony Rodriguez But 4% of the time he's getting called and he's gonna be behind. He should try to ladder since he easily could have won a couple thousand dollars more! /s
Exactly. It's the fact he's so deep, when you run deep moves like this are stupid for the kinds of sums involved.
52:01 As much as i feel for you Lex, your instant facial expression when you see what you are up against, it is funny.. not that this happened to you, your expression when you say "he calls us with..." and then just "ruffroo"
Jam K9s 25bb final 2 on the button. This is studying! I love you ben!8D #Goodreg
😂😂 Ben is giving us free money with his dummy course
That K9 all in was so inconsistent with everything else shown in that hour. I mean, I get that there may have been similar moves which weren't shown, but still, it sticks out so much. Great run, though. :)
When ur close to the FT of a big MTT you cant make standard plays
You have to be better than standard
Maybe that k9 is a good spot to steal, but sometimes in this kind of tourneys the most important thing is to survive; you dont need to steal every spot!
Love ur content; was hoping to see some final table!
u sound like the type of guy who folds till he mincashes on a bubble lmao
Hi lex you are the best pro I actually enjoy on youtube
LOL the note on that guy that lost KK < K8. I remember that hand when you made that note. Pricesless
Turning off the mic when you eat, finally a streamer with good manners :)
Wow amazing Video TY for the coaching
52:07 Just made him shut up. xD
at 11:02 is check calling is bad play with AJ on the turn after 3rd diamond comes?
I'm beginning to love Lex's rants at the end of each video.. because we've ALL been there! "Poker Gods WHY DO U FUCKING HATE ME!?!jdjje"... then we're all back at our computer the next day, playing poker!
Love how Lex's accent is more american here (4 years ago) compared to now. Great videos!
GG. Tournament poker is like surfing. You can only do so much. Stay at the top of your game like you are here and wait for that big wave.
You have the hugest balls on twitch that's fo sho.
Can't get behind that open shove at the end, and a few other moves. But I just love HOW high stakes are played. It's how poker should be played if everyone knew what they were doing.
#100% profitable. GG Lex
I feel your pain with that K9dd shove at the end, man. =(
Wow the AJ AJ hand was sick 😎 our Dutch pushing pride Lex!! Jammer dat ik zo niet breed zit anders paasde ik je wat als ik je live volg komt goed, wel lekker die dollars tussen het knallen door helemaal gek joh
you running so good ! wow
Which coaching videos You're talking about? 23:16?
Checked that out. You make 2 cents with that jam. Gz
Yerr1337 lmao underrated comment
Sorry to say Lex but I don't see a point in openshoving K9s. Why not just minraise? Neither opponent can't really flat anything with this stack dynamic anyway because BB jam would open the action for you again if SB decided to flat
big chance he will be outplayed vs the big stack with a minraise. The shove was the only way to really scare him off hands like A4, J8, Q10 etc... being out of position vs the guy with all the chips, well I get why lex moved allin...
He's not getting outplayed since sb barely has a bluffing bluffing range in this spot. That was just a terrible jam for such a healthy stack.
Yerr1337 "sb barely has a bluffing range in this spot" you joking right? ... Let´s say lex goes for a minraise instead. Iam_sound is probably well aware of Lex trying to go after the small stack in this situation, so that´s why a minraise won´t work. Huge chance the big stack will go for a 3bet if Lex makes a small raise, and what do you do then with K9 ?
First of all, Lex is In Position. Secondly, BB is almost never folding with his short stack so thats why Lex's opening range has to be somewhat strong, and for both reasons SB can't 3bet very light
yeah his in position, my bad. But the guy in bb has 800k or so in his stack, and I promise that Lex would love to see sb fold and bb go allin.
You´re doing fine with K9 vs the range of the bb shoves (800 K is nothing).
So the big stack can surely 3bet - fold and still have 20 million + in his stack , bottom line is that Lex was looking for the bb chips, and he wanted to get rid of the sb as quickly as possible.
It´s easy to point out what a bad shove it was when the sb woke up with KK
Anyone else just find themselves watching all the old videos randomly most days
nice run bro.. its coming!!
hi u have any home games club?if yes whats the id and pass?
Got so hyped when he Shoved with 87s against your 86s straight. at 12:05
What do you think about his play there Lex? What would you do with 87s.?
fold lol
has K9 a standard jam with big blinds stack? small blind never does anything crazy with that short of a stack in the big
finally someone says it. this is the real reason its a bad shove
that was brutal but yea maybe that K9 all in wasnt a good decision considering the pay jumps. Nice tourney tho congrats!
He's a really good player but he didn't even think about it for more than a millisecond, just shipped it.
He had worked hard and played so well that just seemed a waste, when you get that close surely you take a bit more time & be just that little bit more cautious in certain spots like that one? What do I know though.
those spots are pretty straight forward and he knows what's gonna happen in all of the situations since the start of the hand. he knew he was pushing if it folds to him. unlucky gg
lajeandom The next pay jumps are minimal compared to the top 3 places. The SB won't call wider TT+, AQ+. That's not even 5% of all hands and he might fold TT and AQ. That means that atleast 95% of the time Lex wins the blinds or plays against the BB for 3BB. I don't understand how that could be a bad play.
@@trollemall7016 77 is a easy call. Lex would shove more lowpockets and bad Aces KQ some stuff.
Esistevano solo le tue nel mazzo?
39:00 was cheacking the hand and u need to win 1/6 (16,6%) times to do the call in the turn and u had 8 outs as u know this is 16% but if u think in just some blufs and your stak in the moment plus the chance to win a huge pot in the river dont u think the call should had been the best option? I am maybe wrong If someone explaind me the hand I whould appreciate thanks
came back and get a good build up. and you decided to shove with K9 ? come on!!!!
Hafiz90 it’s a profitable shove bro
LingtonTV it is profitable like +0.2 EV but it does not mean that you have to shove it without including ICM in your math. 12 left out of the huuuuge field, making the final table is a big ladder comparing to 12th. It is not profitable at all if you add IcM
How did you calculate eV +0.2?
According to him its 100% profit but appeared to be 0% that time lul
It’s profitable to open rip 80bbs with K9 from mp. doesn’t mean it’s good. Holy crap I can’t believe how bad lex was
So whats the record?
anyone tell me what the picture that he use what is the name of it
46:39 so after seeing the next hand where your opponent here was all in, in a huge pot with k8, pretty confident you got bluffed on the river here and shoulda just check called. Instead of lead out and fold to his river raise with your qh7h.
The Miami Dolphins are looking for a punter, I think you'd be perfect.. K9??? LOL JP that sucks Lex
The last river was deserved! Against faking fish calling station getting miracles. So insane!
I totally understand where you're coming from Lex it was a good spot with a good hand against say AQ QJ 1010 hands like that but i agree bro 3x raise even a 4x would have been best BUT again im no pro and there is a reason you got that far so i can't pick this apart as I am your humble viewer. SPADEAROOOOOOOO!!
What does the purple note mean?
Lex, lot of comments, most negative, about the last hand (K9). Seems like a lot of people think it was a bad play, and a 2.2 raise would have been better. ANy chance you could do a quick hand review video on the hand? For the record, I think it was the correct play.
Oké WTF deed je daar nergens voor nodig... té zonde, zelfs jij kan nog leren wauw!! Toch knap en vette pech! Grtz
Hello Lex. Help me please. Wath for a song on ca.07:11:...? And of corse, thanks for your school;)
Can somebody tell me the title of his sway song??
Still Speedin'. Sway is the artist :)
Im not a tourney player and Im not here to argue I know more about tourneys than anyone else but I do play nl100 and I have a good understanding of poker dynamics. I strongly believe that r/f vs SB or r/c and play tight post is much better option than jam. When u jam u pick up the dead money or you lose to the BB and/or u lose ur stack to the SB. Yes in theory it is a profitable jam but not jamming might be more profitable. You can calculate how much money makes this jam in theory on the chip to money correlation at this point but...u cannot predict how far you would go by not jamming. And the money u make with the jam here is way to small to outperform the the probability of running deep if you do not jam here 25bb...
dont talk about high stakes tourney poker when you only play cash. just dont.
im not gonna ask ur permission on what im gonna comment on. Go comment somewhere else.
Yeah we can say you're not an mtt player.
Lex, I'd love for you to explain why you felt it was a good move to shove in your bust out hand in a future video. I have a hard time believing that you'll feel this way upon reflection. Thank you for all of your videos!
KING 9 OFF FINAL TABLE HOLY FUDGE
That end was gutting feelsbadman
50:19 you beat only JJ in his shoving range. He is never raising AT or J9 against your 3B range preflop in this spot it is only a call, he raise only sets or two pair or over pair to the board.
i agree he beats only jj here...why should the guy shove 10x EVER???!!!
As lex looks back, he knows this was a super punt lol. still my homie though..
Ask Bencb if K9s is a 24BB open rip into 1st place stack on FT bubble 1:12:46, it obviously is not.
we should open fold?
Result oriented fishes everywhere
Phat Stax If he get's called by TT+, AQ+ the SB calls only 95% of the time. That seems reasonable to me.
Just raise/fold to sb as he’s never bluffing when bb is that short. Obviously it’s slightly profitable to open rip but the risk vs reward just isn’t worth it. Such an unnecessary punt
My lord. Talk about getting smashed in the face by the deck.
Who would dislike the singing terminator
1:12:55 -----> Lex Veldhuis dodging bullets!!!
I like how Lex says "we can also check this" but lex never checks whenever he has a value or semi value/bluff hand he just always bets way too much lol just funny seeing him trying to analyze his play
10 m is real money or just game money
at minute 28:8 board 288 w 288k pot :O
37:12 why are there 7 seats in a 6max tourney ?
New structure of PokerStars 6max tourneys have 7 Players at the final table
You forgot the cardinal rule: always leave yourself some outs
God damit was hoping you to win this... isnt raising there always better.. even if he 3bets light to resteal let him exploit you there the icm value outweighs letting the big stack exploit you.. and hes going to do that anyways with a bigstack i think huge riskreward mistake.. gdluck next time
Dude talking about running bad...LMFAO!!!!
What if someone is watching your twitch and also playin in the tournament hmmmm
he has a 5 minute delay on his stream
Love the jam at 7:03 GENIUS
1:11:14 HAHA :D
New here, what’s GTO mean?
game theory optimal
Queens vs aces. Happens all the fking time to me on stars... almost amusing. Can guarantee it a happen. !!
Everyone sayin k9 was a bad shove u guys are wrong and has alot to learn.
against weak opponents sure u can open 2.2 and get sb to fold but against a good opponent hes just gonna iso with so many hands knowing hes basically has like a 40% to run it against the bb plus with the dead money in there, and if lex had a hand and was trapping he has good equity against that too most of the time
The move is definitely +EV. However it doesn't mean that it's a good move. The best move is to open 2.1.
Lex - Задрот Иванович!)))
11:58 first time watching his stream
Nice.
No one can doubt that the k9 was a bad play.
25bb shove from the B because BB is really short ? no, just no.
he sad it in the stream, that he accept the sb to resteal with Hands like 87 or 910. dont know the ranges, propably he is just right and its a prof play
GLISSnSQUEEZE coudn't agree more. How can a pro player like lex, and believe me when i say he is by far my favorite CZcamsr and that he always inspired me, be so reckless. With icm pressure and all that this is by far the biggest mistake ever made so deep in a huge tournee. Quiet sure he knows this allready. Hurts to not see you finally get that big win in scoop lex. Please keep up the good content.
GLISSnSQUEEZE ppppppp troll
I'm unsure why people are liking your comment it's standard play. Just unlucky asf.
I put in the stacks into HoldemRecources Calculator and adjusted for ICM by putting in the prizes for 1 to 12 and according to that Lex could push unexploitably 21.9 % of hands which comes down to 44+, A2s,A7o,K7s,KTo,Q9s,JTs so indeed K9s is an unexploitable push here.
song at 4:05 --> ???
poopy pants - poop in my pants (stanky remix)
Q7 was good in that spot lol
My question may seem stupid: why do people donate so much money during the stream? For what?
to support his channel and help him keep creating, what's to get? lol. Buy ins cost money, not that he's not a winning player but donations obviously help a lot.
thats crazy, why would you do that, you can just open k-9 suited, if the small blind 3bet or shove you fold, if small blind folds you can call a shove from big blind, why is this punt so deep in tournament hahahha i guess thats some deep +EV tounament strategy i dont know i am not a pro
Nice done, but K-9 vs chipleader... that was bad :-) but gg
Been there bro fucking killer them ones are. Right to end and then fuckeries. Well 12th is better then fuck all.
JUST LIKE THAT K8 vs KK, that never happens to you.... You always win with KK, that is totally bullshit, i cant even remember when i last time won with KK....
I just won fucking 200k with spin and gooo!!! wtf wtf, im just 20 years old !!! by watching you play !!!
who are these people donating $100+?!
не понял зачем пушить к9 )
Да он на подкрутках играет, и показывает типа пихайте мусор
68 patadas en la cabeza. 😆
you can't shove last hand for value are you high
sikkk run
sam paganiniiiiii !
you know what you know Lex
I don't know about the K9 hand. Perfect spot to raise and if 3bet call (if shoved on, fold of course). IF it's +EV in the long run, then I'd say it is +EV during the normal phase of a tournament BUT NOT WHEN YOU'RE ALMOST SITTING AT THE FT OF A HIGH ROLLER!! You need to adapt in those situations and play tighter for sure!
Claudio Itsnoneofyourbusiness exaclty its a + Chip Ev shove but not + ICM Ev,
Gouttière Vac so you‘re telling me you earn more real money in the long run by doing so? I don‘t think so tbh. You get hands like 66+ to call you since the guy he shoves into is a big stack.
Claudio Itsnoneofyourbusiness In your opinion he should play to ladder and to maybe make a couple thousand $ more? I prefer playing for the win.
i think the mistake you made in the K9 hand was not considering how profitable ICM wise it is to fold and let big stack bust him and then be 1 off the ft. 25bb is just too much to risk.. the chips you pick up in that "profitable shove" aren't worth it because all you're doing is picking up big stacks small blind and then you have to win a run out vs the bb where you're likely to not be more than a 60% fav.. for those reasons the shove is terrible.. but with that being said you are my fav streamer and love watching you.. keep the content flowing homie.
also once you make the ft, the play ability of a 25bb stack goes up substantially.
That k9s hand hurts.. i understand its an ev+ jam but for 25bbs ..
+chip ev and -ICM ev
I like a limp there with k9
what's with the donation on twich? can somebody explain?
people donate if they like his content, it supports his channel and helps him keep creating.
bad rip man
Omg. FishPro
Should have raise/folded 95% of your stack with K9. Just in case he wakes up with a hand. Live to win other hand
lol
24 bb lol
K9 shove 100% profitable but its not sustainable
Nick Dionata341
Not the best ending . Next time better 😎