What Went Wrong with the Toyota Supra
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- 2020 Toyota Supra vs 1994 Toyota Supra, Which is Better, DIY and car review with auto mechanic Scotty Kilmer. Toyota Supra review. Old Supra vs new Supra. Next generation Toyota Supra. Should I buy a Toyota Supra? Is the new Toyota Supra worth it? Are Supras reliable? The truth about the 2020 Toyota Supra. Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 52 years.
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1994 supra cause toyota engine ........xd
Scotty, that was a fun video. Thanks.
I think if BMW engines could RELIABLY handle 1000hp the F1, a some flagship M series BMW, would have touted it long ago. Realistically, being a german made 6 cylinder engine, forced induction engines are only going to sustain 500, to 750bhp before needing beefed up internals, and possibly cylinder liners. As those numbers can be achieved by Mk4 Supra 2JZ, without ever opening the engine. The 2020 Supra will NEVER have the straight line potential of the mid 90's models. However, with modern suspension, LSD's and traction control technologies, the 2020 Supras have vastly greater technical track capabilities, and their "track day" potential far exceeds that of the Mark 4's. That having been said, there is no real way to compete the two vehicles fairly, they're 2 completely different animals. The Mark 4's were built solely by Toyota. Toyotas "bullet proof" engine designs were perfect for nitrous and turbo driven exploitation, by the 1/4 mile race centric, car culture of the 1990's. Whilst, on the other hand, as superchargers have become the more favorable method of forced induction, providing instant power, perfect for acceleration out of the turns. Technical race tracks, and drift racing, have come into favor. Reducing the demand for 1000+ horsepower by car enthusiast, and moving their focus towards more balanced vehicle specifications. The same types of specs found in the new 2020 Toyota Supra, making it a better sports car by todays standards. One was the king of the 90's straightaway, the other an up and coming prince of track day. Both born of noble Toyota blood, with equal claims to the throne, but within the new Supra beats a BMW heart, giving naysayers reason to contest it's ascension to the throne. Meaning only time will tell if the 2020 Toyota Supra will become the new king or become just another member of the Toyota Supra court. In closing; Neither car is "better" per se. Either car placed in the others timeline, would fall by the wayside. The only real comparisons that can be made, are reliability and popularity, and with both, only time will tell...
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Hey Scotty, been thinking about the 2020 Chevy Silverado 3500 4wd. What are your thoughts on the Alison transmission and duramax?
Get a 94’Silver Cellica with 240,000 miles runs like a clock shifts like a dream and the ac is freezing ice cold!
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That line never gets old
Small displacement front wheel drive and drum brakes on the rear no Thanks I choosed the NISSAN Sylvia back in 2004
Nissian rouge clocking 180K and AC blowing cold
Cars N Stuff 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I bought a MK 4 Supra that was 1 year old in 1998 and I still have it and love it!!! Long live Toyota!!!! Scotty you're a genius bud
Lucky man
Did you tune it at all or leave it stock?
Your Supra will worth more than newest Supra 20 years from now if it is still in pristine condition
Choke me daddy xD
Let me drive it
i realized someone is changing the game every other day lol
anyone else wondering why the calipers were rotating with the wheel at 2:20? lol
New design.
Yeah, good luck stopping that car!
Helps keep the calipers cool
@me me Learn how to type!
So disturbing!
The 1994 Supra is the best hands down, I have an 89 Supra, but the MK IV is by far the best Supra ever and the 2JZGTE engine was one of the best engines ever made.
Only problem is, emissions restrictions by government, so toyota had to use a bmw B58B30 engine!
New car is better.
@@WALTERBROADDUS Old Supra is more reliable.
I still prefer 7mgte but i respect ur opinion
@@aimxdy8680 LOL Who told you that ? Talking nonsense.
Does my lack of interest in 1000hp mean I'm getting old?
Not old, but wise.
1000hp will make you feel young again
@@knifedudetodd and empty your bank account!
@@4BillC lol oh yes.
and keep it empty when it needs rebuilding every 5k miles
@Jason Carino, you are correct, no point having a 50mph brain operating a 250mph vehicle, better to be wise than dead...
Who remember getting the supra mk3 as first car in Grand Turismo 1&2 cheep and fast 🤣🤣
The Supra mk4, The old Skyline and the Mitsubishi GTO are my favorite cars
Dude, best car ever, had mine at 1100hp. Could smoke everything with it. I had the "cheat" disk, though.... We're getting old......
Jeff Kopher loool we are getting old
THose are all great cars. I love my 1994 300ZX TT. I feel like those are often forgotten on this list. They are more common than the Supra so maybe they aren't as desirable, especially with a twin turbo V6. But I still think it is a good alternative. I like the Z better than the GTO/VR4 though.
3000gt ftw
4 cylinder supras ftw, loved smoking people in Gran Turismo with the Tom's supra.
I’d go with the Toyota over the BMW.
Toyota tuned the parts, bmw has great engines but bad components!
And since the new Supra gets its' major parts from BMW you are just getting a BMW with a Toyota paint job.
@@Nidhoggrr Bash if you want. It's a great car.
If Toyota and BMW were to merge and Toyota tuned all BMW components BMW will be the best car manufacturer bar none as they have something for everyone but reliability is suspect as is right now
They're both made at the same plant. It's basically a Toyota tuned BMW.
Man Scotty you sound so strange like this but I guess it's the new Scotty so what the heck, I'm still with you man👍🏾✌🏾
BEDTIME STORIES narrated by Grandpa KILMER 🌛🐑🐴
I like this comment
Amen
His voiceovers are lit 😂
Scott, I watch your CZcams videos like a Hawk but I don't always agree with you especially when u state that you aren't being Compensated by any Automobile Manufacturers ?
Tell me more about them 2jz engines tht go SUTUTUTU grandpa kilmer 🤠🥺
I remember when I was in high school, in 1982, my mother bought a Supra and my brother and I used to fight over who got to drive it when she wasn’t in it. We absolutely loved it. When she sold it I thought I saw my brother cry a little.
1994 supra will still be going strong when the 2020 supra plastic engine parts start cracking when the warranty is up and good luck with diy maintenance especially anything related to the timing chain as that is on the back side of the engine, what a great design.
Plastic engine parts ??? Your dumb as a rock its flexibility ofbthose new components that make it stronger but if you have no clue about engine designs youll never understand
Of all the cars I've ever owned, the only one I regret selling was my Mkiv Supra ... 😪
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully the guy/gal you sold it to is taking good care of it. Btw, what kind of car(s) do you own these days?
Mine was an FC RX7...
@@shogoracing4294 I made the huge mistake of buying a Mercedes R230 350 SL. It's a beautiful car and the body, chassis, engine and performance are incredible and almost as fast as the supra but the quality of components is deliberately garbage. They just crumble in your hands. Electrical connectors, small motors and sensors etc. Mechanical mounts made from cheap rubber. And with such a complex design, any faulty component can give false errors. Endless money pit. I miss the reliability looks and practicality of the mkiv. I'm thinking of getting a GT86 which is what the new supra should have been but with a new 2JZ engine
@@MrMeoow91 Great car! I liked the Mitsubishi 3000 GT and Nissan 300 ZX too . That era had some incredible cars!!!
But you didnt regret selling mk1-mk3?
Scotty... Keep these documentaries coming, they’re great!👍🏻
I guess he killed his new channel that he was putting these on. I dont think he gave it enough time.
I love your documentary narrations Scotty please keep uploading these videos
thank you!
Scotty Kilmer wow I didn't ever think that I would get a reply from you! I'm a big fan.. I watched most of your videos.. you saved me lots of cash please never stop we need you .. the only honest mechanic on youtube
Scotty said he is 90% German and 10% Oriental. I am going with the '94 Celica.
He does look oriental.
There's a winning combination.
@@larrysmith6797 See what you did there 😏😂
Lol
Well done Scotty, very informative. I still have my 94 Supra Turbo that I bought 22 years ago in Feb of 98, six speed of course.
I love this video, a complete history on the supra model, please post more videos like these on different sports car models with highlights ofmost popular models of different brands, you earned a lifetime subscriber, you are super knowledgeable and your reviews and point of views gives us(viewers) alot of idea about cars when we see it down the road 🙂 thank you again and hope to see more of these videos
Well 2JZ because it has stood the test of time & tuners alike.
Engine alone does not make a car.
@@WALTERBROADDUS the engine is the epicenter of the car. You're not paying for the shell. For example, that's why Ferrari back then stood by thus statement.
@@trcs3079 Cars need brakes, handling, trans, ergonomics too. The B58 engine can do the job.
Yeah I thought I might have heard him say 6JZTT
Test of time lmao, it's not even a 30 year old design. Come back when its relevant 60 years later, like a chevy or ford v8.
The old all Toyota Supra wins this competition.
Even Scotty says Nooooo to BMWs.
Well he doesnt dislike bmw too much since he bought the new supra😎
@Jessica Estrada Yes exactly baby.
MikeMarshall1411 he sold out
But as he has said, BMW makes great engines. So, other than the interior and engine, its Toyota. My only problem with the car is it needs a manual.
Apparently, Toyota sent the B58 engine back to BMW several times following their testing. The B58 might be, just might be a Toy' after all. Time will tell.
I... loved this video? So calm in this video and I enjoyed hearing all you had to say it was pleasant 😁
Scotty, thank you, very awesome informative video. Bring more of them. As for Supra I guess the old one will remain a legend and we'll see if the new one will prove itself to be good in a long run.
I loves these! Keep them coming Scotty.
great presentation Scotty, bravo
We can all agree the 2jz a good motor
I need one lol
Yeah with a BMW ticket price. Toyota definitely drop the ball.. on this one.)
So is the b58
*overhyped
Not good, great!!
Always a great narrative when Scott dose a history lesson i love it thank you brother
I just love the feeling of the 90's JDM design. Nothing beats that. Nice video and all but...I laughed so hard at the brake calipers spinning around in the animations hahahaha
This is the type of content i like to see on youtube,thank you scotty!
Denesh Bm same!!!!
Thank you scotty I always wanted you to make this video.
Not bad narrating. loved how you edited music like this in the end. Keep it up
Hey Scotty, I just wanna thank you for all the knowledge you give us....you're awesome !
I remember getting 1000 hp out of the supra in grand tursimo 2😂
"Give me a 10 second car."- Scotty Kilmer
Love these documentaries, THANK YOU Scotty !
How does Scotty have an access to all these high-quality videos? Amazing.
What happened to the other channel? I don't see any videos showing up there any more.
Toyota: We don’t make i6 engines any more, so we needed to partner up with BMW
Lexus (also Toyota): Am I a joke to you?
they should put a LFA engine for the mk5...XD
They never did make any of those.
You are doing great in this documentary style video. We need more videos like this.
This is a beautiful video Scotty. First class and from the heart!
Great documentary Scotty! Can u do one on the legendary G35!
Or the 37?!
Don’t be stupid
legendary? Bit of overkill.
Is not legendary if you can get one for a couple grand .
@@swervv2957 35 came before 37 it's only right.
I owned 4 BMW with straight sixes and boy can they build engines, but the supra legacy is not something that you just pass on.
2JZ is second to none.
Yes the engine internals are reliable ,it's all the plastic external parts that tend to fail.
Toyota used the Supra name mainly for publicity to spice up their brand. The car feels and drives like a BMW.
@rockn roll no, what I'm saying is that Toyota used to Supra name for publicity to spice up their "boring" image. It drives like a BMW because I own a 21 Supra.
@rockn roll it should drive like a BMW because the car is pretty much engineered by BMW, and tuned by Toyota with bmw parts.
This is an awesome video Scotty! You and your editor are doing a great job. Keep it up!
Love the documentary style on this production. Can't wait til the next one....
How is it that you’re such a fan of the new Supra after you trashed it months ago for being a low quality BMW?!
Opinions change as you learn more information, when I was young, I hated to drive in cars because it was boring. Now I love driving and riding in cars regardless of the make/model
Sponsorships...
The ending song is dope!
Scotty, gotta say you're the man bro but the vids with the cam on you talking in your office and in the cars you're working on are the best. History of car brands are so-so
Hi, Scotty. I really like your new format. I still like the Q&A, but hey, keep on keepin' on, right? Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
i'm on the fact that they went to BMW for an engine when Toyota is one of the most popular car companies in the world. your telling me they honestly couldn't put money into building their own engine.
I'm farely certain they didnt because it would have made the car too expensive on the back end. Having to sale it for 100k+ decreases the amount of customers so they cut the cost. They didn't want to make the same mistake twice and not reach target sales.
I definetly feel you though, hopefully they implement something on the next gen, just doesnt feel like a pure Toyota if that's not what under the hood.
momo97110 the car would have costed 50k if Toyota designed it themselves
The 1jz was a Yamaha engine and Toyota used the Yamaha 1jz to make the 2jz. So yeah, they really haven’t made any performance engines without help or by themselves.
@@destruxandexploze2552 you can't tell people that...its like half these people going so hard for the car really dont know much about it
@@destruxandexploze2552 Only the 1JZ head was designed by Yamaha, the rest was by Toyota, including the 2JZ. Other performance engines like the LR used in LFA were mostly Toyota (Yamaha helped a bit too but Toyota still is huge and had the resources to make it) plus the new Supra is just completely BMW.
Great video Scotty!
I can understand the economics of the BMW partnership. It's a sad sign of the times, but we (old school gearheads) should be grateful for the development of 'any' new sports cars with ICE. And yes, automatics are quicker, but I still mourn the growing disappearance of 'row your own' gearboxes.
I just traded my '18 Mustang GT (loaded with perf pack, 10sp, active exhaust, etc.) It had 2900 miles on it!
I traded it for a new Tundra, but still have my lightly modded '12 Mustang GT with a manual. It's just more fun for me than my faster and better handling '18. But hey, at least I still have the greatness of the Coyote engine!
BMW or non-ICE vehicle?
Don't make me choose. It is a far too easy choice not to have to work with BMW technicians ever again. (Note: Technician, not mechanic)
@@wburger2178 they're all "techs" these days - no matter the brand.
Electric Supra or ICE bimmer/Supra? Easy choice for me - though I'm not interested in the car either way.
The short documentaries are great Scotty thank you
I enjoyed the review of the Toyota Supra and the summary of the history of the Supra. Thank and keep up the productions of these videos.
1994 stands tall in history, that's my choice.
I thought the surpa came out in '93
@@shawnsta7779 nope
Tall as in '94 Celica
'94 was also the first year of the Gen 3 Integra.
@@shawnsta7779 Yes this 4th generation came out in 1993 and 1st gen was 1978.
i know why they did it, but nothing is going to beat the 2JZ-GTE in my opinion. Reliable, sounds great and can handle a TON of power. What more could you want?
Just a BBW in the passenger seat
Scotty, thank you. I genuinely enjoyed this video!
Your most informative and educational video of the Supra's history, Scotty! Sure the current model has a BMW inline six and will have its haters but I may consider buying it someday
The Supra is iconic for being a Japanese sports car. The decision to use a German BMW engine goes against the very essence of the Supra. The engine is the heart of a car and the 2020 Supra is missing it.
Not just the engine. The whole thing is just s z4 with Toyota badges
This Zupra is such a disgrace. Toyota should be ASHAMED of themselves. They should also be ashamed of using a Subaru 2.0L boxer 4 cylinder on the Toyota 86. Subaru has had a history of engine problems and they use a Subaru engine on their car. I hope Toyota does not lose their reputation of reliability with these two cars. If they want to be known for best reliability they should end production of the 86 and Supra.
@@az7378 well said.. They should have just put the word supra on the lfa. .
@@sharperprospecting6980 don't get this logic when with the supra being a lfa...supras were never supercars,barely any were made,it never came with a i6,and was triple the price any supra would ever be. Tbf I'd just call it a waste of a supra since it practically doesn't have much of anything to do with them in the first place. Yea new ones a bmw but does that matter? Kick the bmw part to the side and the cars practically decent for what it is. It was NEVER a high class world beater including that every gen was totally different from there predecessors to the successors in the supra family that their barely called relatable.
@@az7378 yea but that's not stopping people from using the platform is it? Even if its engine is unreliable. Plus the cars been around for.......7-8 years now and your now saying this? Aint it too late to say "it's going to ruin their reliability rep"when its been around this long and people have been using the death out of the platform for multiple things since day one?
Scotty: why I’ll die before I buy a bmw
Toyota: * releases new supra with bmw engine
Scotty: where do I preorder?
😂😂😂
he have one
Scotty: you son of a bitxh, I'm in
Scotty has said many times before that BMW makes great engines. And they've always been masters of the inline six. So it makes sense that he bought one.
Love your videos, thankyou for the truth about all makes of cars,
Sincerely ronnie a fan in new Brunswick, Canada.
This is my new fav style vid from scotty
When was the last time BMW and reliability coexisted?
Before Hitler started Barbarossa in 1941, then it all went downhill.
Exactly! Every BMW M for the last 30 years have been a total, unreliable disaster. From poorly designed engines to the brilliant (cough) and well executed SMG gearbox ...
Never
Never. BMW is good before 100.000 miles. After is 💩
Yep. Since the mid-90's BMW started going downhill. From that problematic V12 on the very early 8 series to the problematic ZF 5 speed to the V8 timing chain issues. These were the problems that plagued BMW from the mid-90's to the early 2000's.
1994 ftw
What’s ftw
@@luisguevara7402 for the win. These abbreviations these days are stupid.
@@az7378 this has been around for quite a while...
@@thenman23 It's still stupid to this day. No wonder why the world is ending.
that's a sweet outro scotty. love to see more of that.
Keep doing these videos scotty. Love them
Scott your presentation is excellent.
You should be teaching this things in a University. Many professors don't have this knowledge.👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I've been telling Scotty that exact same thing for months now.. he gives an very good presentation that is easy to understand and keeps a person interested the entire time.
He is teaching these things, Only without the pay cut and without demanding tuition.
Imagine seeing that 8:18 on the road LOL
me when I see this on the road: man he's really into weight reduction.
This is the calmest video of Scotty that I’ve ever watched lol
Great content.... THe Supra is legend... My ex wife had a new one in 1984 , 2 Tone Maroon Metallic... Automatic but it was a looker for sure back then... had super fat tires for that time, may be 225 mm wide . Coool content !
Over 45 years of experience has taught me that a turbocharger ONLY belongs on a DIESEL engine; put one (or two) on a gasoline engine and you'll find out why it doesn't belong there, the expensive way.
(While it's definitely NOT "just my opinion", for now, let's call it "just my opinion")
Toyota already had 2jz engine molds. Make your own engines Toyota!
I agree, I think everyone would have been fine with an updated 2jz in that new supra body.
I personally don't even like the body of the new Supra... don't like the overlapping Hood Fender line or the rear end ... No Targa Top so for me it's not just because it doesn't have a 2JZ engine for me it's the whole package
You said HAD ,they most likely don't have them anymore, if they did they probably would of used them.
Please, more videos like this!!!🙏🏼
These are becoming my favourite videos
Hope you are having a great day Scotty. I vote the 1994 Toyota Supra!
I'm 30 now looking for a car to last me until retirement, I hope Scotty will sell me his celica
I never understood why do people hoard their car until it’s worth nothing when they could’ve sold it earlier while it was still valuable.
Funny!
Planet Earth If you like your car then why keep it forever till it’s all used up and worth no money. Instead you could have sold it when it was still worth a lot. It’s smarter financially to sell the car you’ve owned for one year, to basically get your money back and put it towards your next car. Which can be the same model but with lower miles, since you like that model so much.
Lol! 🤣
@@Big.W. You will still be paying several thousands even after trading in a used vehicle. If you get a toyota or a lexus and hit half a million you're literally saving money. Because of that it doesn't matter if the vehicle is worth nothing. The very fact that you haven't payed a penny for any vehicle during that time gives you a massive profit over trading in when the vehicle has lower mileage. During such mileage (500k) how many trade ins would you have done in your book? 5, 6, 7? Multiply that by the additional amount of what you'll pay during the trade in (plus taxes, processing fees, and bunch of other nonsense). Keeping a high mileage vehicle just saved you 10-20 grand, if not more. In addition when you constantly switch models, especially in the used market, you'll run into issues due to changes and inconsistencies. Reliability, dealerships and other stuff that'll cost you money, time, energy and needless stress due to high variation in brand, make, and technology difference, rather than sticking with that one vehicle that you calibrated around and set up your maintenance and finances for.
I live for these videos Scotty. Just absolutely amazing
WoW, this is beautiful 🤩 thank you sir.
For once I actually listened.
Please do more videos like this.
Great video. There’s no doubt the new one is a great car as far as performance and looks goes but everyone should stop calling it a “Supra”.
Exactly it may be an okay BMW sports car but I'd never consider this a true Supra
It is accept it
It's a shame they didn't offer the MKV with a manual gearbox option. Yes I'm aware of all the arguments in favor of a fast shifting positive feeling slushbox. It still (imo) takes a little s'more of the driver out of the experience of the drive.
True the manual can give you an extreme leverage in racing development over automatic transmission
They will in coming years, watch.
@@N20Joe and now it is here.
Really dig this style of video. Nice work 👊🏻
This video is very well done. Deserves a like.
Afternoon Scotty!
afternoon!
@@scottykilmer Scotty screw the 2020 BMW Zupra.
We'll have to wait to see if the mk5 will become as legendary as the mk4
And it will never be
Just a disguised BMW
hater
@blackandgold51 good point
Scotty, you are the best! Regards from Romania!
My 2nd car after my Tercel was a rusty maroon '85 Supra. This brought back a lot of memories! Thanks Scotty!
white 82 supra here bro.. no wing though... I Really wanted that wing! fun car, I thought the world of it back then and. getting it used, was a dream come true.. the reality is though, that it was slow and those recaro lookalike seats were the worst torture for ur lower back ever designed by the mind of man.
Yeah, the B58 is an untapped beast!!
I tapped it and it still ain’t a beast 😂
Bring the 2jz engine back, you can find them in the Lexus is300, most people dont know that. Scotty can you review Lexus is300 and the 1st gen Honda ridgeline?
That’s the ge version not gte tho
Shut up
Don't you ruin my is300 parts supply! Lol.
Scotty you’re the man, fantastic video!!
I like how I just got the notification for this video which came out 3 days ago...wow lol
94 always the best year
94 supra ❤️🙏🏻❤️
Yup !
«Swif7 - All for me» plays at the end.
I must have missed the part where you're no longer doing the Autonauts Garage. I liked that. It stood out from your daily videos.
If you need to revive Toyota Supra !! Make Toyota engine not a BMW !! ...
I almost positive that the 2020 Supra won’t live up to its 25 year old predecessor. It’s only holding onto the name, reliability and power are still on the table. It won’t hit 2000hp, it’ll be far from it. Toyota not putting the effort in designing the same engine for a new era means it won’t be the same, bmw is good... but there’s no Toyota knowledge in it.
Just stop
Scotty. I got bit 5 years ago by the amateur racing bug. My friends sold me a Hyundai Tiburon GTV6 not knowing what it was. I know it's not a REALLY fast and furious car, (not even RW drive) but I was impressed with what that small 2.8 could do with a 5 speed tranny. Added a 3 point strut tower brace, stainless exhaust system, stage 2 clutch kit, and a KNY cold air intake (after i made sure the rest of the car was sound lol) and I went auto-cross with it. It's since gobe now, but I know one of these Supras could put me over the finish line. I'm dying to race one! Thanks for this short documentary. Keep up the good work!
Love the videos, love the the way they are told .
time of 10:01, ha ha, love it Scotty
the 2020 is a rebadged bmw . 1994-1997 was the real deal
Thanks for the great vids Scotty.
Scotty forgot about the inherant unreliability of the 7M engines.