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Shirakawa Ryuji - Abe toshiharu
Hatayama Hiroshi - Suzuki takaki
World Combat Games 2013 - Day 5 - 22.10.2013
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合気道 神武錬成塾 白川竜次先生 - Sport
After a long break in aikido and trying different martial art. I'm back in aikido. Aikido is a way of life for me, I've no intention to engage in a street fight or combat or competition. I've a family and a job, I can't afford to train like an athlete (nor to show up with injury at work). I like to train aikido till I'm old and to maintain my health, which is possible in aikido. What makes me back to aikido, was reading some of people's comment about martial art on youtube, I know that aikido also teach its participant to be respectful and humble -- which we need more in real life -- cheers
I really love this way of thinking too. East Asian Martial Arts are not mean to compete. People nowadays only think about hurting other people, martial arts should teach you how to be a better person physically and mentally through their Way (Do), not become King Kongs or some kinds of beasts.
@@Mintimiruku6369 east asian martial arts include: Judo,Karate, Various types of kungfu, jiu jitsu, Taekwondo, and much much more. Who said that they are not meant to hurt other people?
You can also do ballroom dancing, or origami.
@@ngomyle agreed. Or Yoga if you like it🤷🏻
Have you ever heard of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu ?
I did so many sports but my fav one is still aïkido it's been 3 years that i practice it now and i'll never stop
I love Aikido, Its so beautiful
Yes, but how effective in a real fight????
***** Now that is a different issue. The way we train Aikido in the Dojo, it would be difficult for anyone expect those with 20 or more years of practice to adequately defend themselves against true street violence. The underlying principles, I believe are effective, but we do not practice them in a way that allows for practical application. This is just my humble opinion, and yes I practiced Aikido for almost a decade, and I still enjoy it for what it is. But for real life violence I train in something different. Also I truly subscribe to the idea that there are no superior martial arts, only superior martial artists. All Martial Arts offer something, but it is HOW one trains, and what one trains for that prepares them. Which is why Tier 1 Operators use live rounds to train, because you will fight how you train. Like I said, just my opinion, I am no expert only a student.
aikido is very efective on the street, just bring the guy down to the ground and you are like a fish on water and after that you go to standing to get some more of those broken bones, aikido is like everything else if you doubt you are done. figthing arts are for those who believe on them, if not stay out of trouble
@@MultiGildardo A Guy doing Muay Thai or Wrestling will literraly kill the Aïkido practitioner
@@rvgnar2784 I've been practicing aikido for more than 25 years and I have confronted guys with tae kwon do , judo , wrestling , grecoromana fight and some others and had no chance agains me, is not about the martial art is about the experience you have
The reason they breakfall like that is to avoid injury. If they didnt they would have broken wrist arms or worse. The spirit of aikido is not to attack it is to defend and not harm the attacker. That is what it is designed for. Not a ring fight or a challenge. We dont care about such things. It a peaceful. Minimal damage self defense system. Thats it. Nothing more, nothing less. Be respectful please.
Steven Seagal has given this martial art a bad name whenever he's on TV.
It's a shame because a lot more people would be interested if it wasn't associated with him
@SGPillinois angryamerikkka You dont get the point didnt ya
Actually that’s a myth. Your wrist would NOT break at all
@@tamo9659 no it's not a myth.My friends son was a aikido player and when she was in the bus, someone touch her boob's and then she use the aikidos move then the one who touch her boob's was crying painful because its really hurt.So Aikido very effective not a MYTH.Sorry for the English 😀😀
@@loyloyarnesto2398 yeah sure and my master can dodge bullets !
absolutely beautiful performance. it looks amazing, to defeat someone with his own force without jumping and hitting around like a maniac.
just harmonic and smooth.
It doesnt work in real life.
It does because they use aikido in the Japanese police force, so it isn't just for show.
Watch Steven Seagal movies and then come back, please
You should check out Nick Drossos
@@Chubbycheesen, perfect for arrest control techniques when you don’t want to beat the crap out of some one being arrested. It has its place, the practitioners choice. Move on, you’re beating a dead horse
In the early days of Aikido, Ueshiba only accepted students that already had at least a black belt in another martial art (Karate, Judo, etc).
In other words, Aikido might actually work - provided you knew how to fight in the first place.
Wonderful ! I love the way they move. Aikido is so beautiful!
It’s more of a dance it’s not a useful martial art at all
But useless. Good for dancing bad for self defense.
@Maik xD double leg takedown would shut this entire martial art down
*So satisfying too...🦋💜🦋*
@@grosebud4554 ok
All martial arts are great. Every art has something to offer . All martial art is created initially for self defense in it's own unique and wonderful way. From the grace movements of Aikido to the devastating attacks of Muay thai..
great comment, if only more people realized that.
Wonder how would be that fight. My bet is on Aikido
Except that muay thai is actually effective. Aikido is only a dance, no live resistance at all, its just to show off cool unreal movements hahahahaha
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@@RicardoMontania Yeah, this is literally a dance competition. MMA or Muay Thai are real martial arts.
he signals his attack a mile away , like a choreography
Really, it looks so fake
it literally is choreographed
Acted out
@@cono4949that’s the point
The ancestor style of Aikido, Daito-ryu Aiki-jujutsu, has more direct, violent but still flowing techniques. There are plenty of vids here on CZcams demonstrating its applications. I'm pretty sure the students' groans of pain is not fake.
Thanks !
Good luck to all!
Claiming it's useless as a form of self defence is synonymous with claiming surfing is useless as a method of transportation. (:
The journey is the destination x
Or, rather, an attempt at evoking imagery in one's mind owing to the insufficiency of the English language.
If you wish to argue, let at least my point not twice evade you.
the Polynesians and Melanesian were excellent surfers and explorers and could def make good use of little boat
Ha ha best answear ever
@@DhanKOTB English language is only insufficient to u cos ur an idiot works perfectly fine for everyone else
I do aikido and know many of these moves, so for people to say this is stage, they are wrong. Next year I will be testing for my junior black belt (because I'm young) and I will have to do this sort of thing in front of my sensei. It has took me 5 years to get to this level and I am still training.
So how's it going?
waiting for answers too!
He had to spar with someone not doing akido for his jr blackbelt. It didn't end well
The movements are exaggerated to prevent damage... The guy acting the antagonist moves into the move in order to prevent himself from getting hurt. I studied Hapkido, (yes I know not the same thing) and we had to do the same thing when working with the instructor. Otherwise it could very easily hurt. A lot.
Yeah i learnt Aikido in my old university, when i was the Uke, i hurt myself so many times just because i didn’t know how to defense properly :l Aikido is cool cause the ones being attacked don’t just standing there reveive, they have to be active too.
Beautiful. Teaches you so much about life.
Aikido is so beautiful n satisfying..🦋💜🦋
one of the best demonstrations I've seen
amazing!
Yes. I apreciate this show
I love the aikido.
By watching one video, people seem to know everything about a martial arts that has been developed over many decades...
Very good demo. Credit to Aikido. First Tori (thrower) best. Beautiful aikido.
I totally agree!
Shirakawa sensei is my favourite aiidoka.
Beautiful!
Imagine they combine Aikido and Muay Thai together. Anyway this recording segment of the matches Is Gold.
Wonderful ! I love the way they move.
これ見てふと思ったけど、宗玄さんと白川先生っていつ出会っていつから稽古してるんだろう？こうゆう場所でもしっかりと受け身が取れるくらい長く稽古してらっしゃるのかな〜
i did one of the basic aikido wristlocks (got it from somewhere else though) in BJJ, worked just fine. you just have to put it tothe test and drill it properly.
I miss of aikido class god :( I NEVER FORGET HOW GOOD MY AIKIDOKA CLASSMATE WAS AND A GOOD CARING SENSIE.
People aikido its too create peace not to hurt anyone its to create PEACE AND PROTECT OURSELFS
+Aphid can it really protect you? I am not sure about that, I am very sceptic about aikido probably because I have never seen it use in the street or against non compliant opponent.
because with aikido you hurt the people soo much you cant do it in a street fight that much
+Aphid hahahahaha rofl
+Syakirin57 The question shouldn't be can Aikido really protect you......rather it should be can you protect yourself through adaption of Aikido.
" I have never seen it use in the street or against non compliant opponent"
Then what's there to be skeptical about?.....
+Syakirin57 How often you see street fights? Where do you live? Even in Brazil, the third word country where I came from, you don't see street fights in every corner.... aikido is a tool as any other and will be useful if you can pull it off.
Everyone saying that Aikido is just dancing, well it can appear that way. However, there is no better practice to understand the physics of the human body and how to manipulate it. Aikido teaches the most efficient ways to use your opponents hinged parts to achieve the desired outcome. Is it a one stop shop? No it isn't, but it is an invaluable discipline to have in your repertoire. It is inherently defensive and, as such, doesn't attract today's more aggressively inclined fighters. For that reason, it should even more so be an art to have in your arsenal.
Epic Aikido demonstration!
exelente aikido!!! good job....my son is aikido-ka too
As a martial artist this demonstration is absolutely ridiculous!
No it doesn't how you came to that conclusion is baffling
+Zenmaster Jared i dont know everything, i no next to nothing. But You blurt out things that anyone with a search engine and five minutes time can falsify. Eastern stules are NOT prohibited from mma, karate is NOT one homogenous style. I'd like to see you adress this.
The point I was making was I believe a lot of martial arts these days emphasise on performances and unrealistic techniques that would never work in a combat scenario, I do believe this demonstration is ridiculous because it's emphasise more on looking good and flashy moves not self defense or combat. Your pity is not needed or your irelavent comment you make no sense and we clearly don't share the same views on this otherwise you would understand my comment
+Panny Spirou The way I understand it, this is simply a demonstration of a martial ART, which also reflects a way of life outside of these movements. They go through this set of movements not to demonstrate the combat ability of the martial art, but rather the philosophy of the martial art. And on top of that, people who master this art also master the ability to peacefully divert all combat situations, and all non-combat situations. It teaches mind and body discipline, emptiness, readiness, compassion and fluidity that carries over to any and all situations. THAT is aikido.
If you want something PURELY combative (which I don't suggest) then something you'll like something more aggressive like Krav Maga or Muay Thai. Aikido is about more than just conquering your opponent, though.
@@louieatkins-turkish1349 очень разумные слова.
Aikido teaches you humility and never to engage in a fight... because deep down inside, you know it doesnt work.
I liken learning Aikido to learning Mathematical physics, very complex and arduous however one you initiate yourself into the practice your form will be graceful ...and invaluable if needed
The stuff in the video is about what you'd expect to do to somebody who was competent in their break falls. So not out of the ordinary.
"It doesn't work in real life." I agree. Karate, Muay Thai, BJJ, Kickboxing, etc. doesn't work either in real life against a glock.
And Aikido doesn't work in real life against nobody.
@@pedropasin8284 You've clearly never experienced the pain of a joint lock.
@@MrLioncash Compare with BJJ, Muay Thai and others, then tell me: Wich one is more effective in a fight? I like Aikido, but if you trust in it only.....
@@pedropasin8284 Aikido is designed to disable people. It is not designed to fight anything. You have missed the point in Aikido entirely.
@@freedom-pw7xn I agree
"I love Aikido, Its so beautiful"
"Yes, but how effective in a real fight????"
I think that's a big part of what this entire debate is about. What educated, civilized adult would allow themselves to get in a real fight? If you've trained in a martial art under a responsible Sensei, would you start a fight? Would you even be allowed to be provoked into a fight? If you answer yes to either one, you have no business training in martial arts.
Once you get past that, then you can objectively compare one marital art to another as a means of self-defense, meaning defense against a mugging attempt or an unprovoked attack of some kind, Aikido is very effective. Most attempted muggings involve grabbing arms, neck or some other part of the body. Against someone who has trained in Aikido, there is nothing that will make you more vulnerable to being completely neutralized in seconds. A frontal grab by an aggressive individual trying to physically provoke you often starts as a push to the chest or a grab to the lapel or both lapels. Again, against an Aikidoka, that is a very good way to be thrown or experience a very painful joint lock and a very quick pin to the floor.
Aikidoka don't fight, nor for that matter do any mature adults. That is not what Buddho is about. We do not live in feudal Japan or the wild west. This is what we chose as a martial art, many of us in addition to other forms. The idea of getting into a “street fight’ is ludicrous.
CrateofStolenDirt So, am I to assume you've been to a number of Aikido dojos, especially those in urban areas and witnessed the lack of simulating an attack that is much like a mugging with an uncooperative opponent? Every Aikido organization is different. Every dojo is different. I am part of Birankai which is at the more martially intent end of the spectrum. My dojo in particular is set in the shadow of Chicago's CTA Green Line elevated train. That's how most of us go to work. That's why many of us train in Aikido. It runs through the most violent eight or nine miles of neighborhood in the US. At the advanced level, Uke attack with great determination. As far as simulating such an attack, Nage walking blindfolded back and forth across the mat with multiple Uke waiting to attack from any number of angles seems to me to be a hyper realistic mugging scenario. We don't do that often but there is a lot of emphasis on being attacked from behind. There is even more emphasis on being vigilant.
I will say this on because this is an Aikido discussion and therefor Aikidokas' territory to defend, you are just another bad-ass practitioner of some more "dynamic" martial art who denigrates Aikido without really understanding it. We are not just graceful, peace loving people who don't want to injure other people. Many of us have trained for years in other forms and have chosen Aikido as our primary form. Those of us who have trained long enough and hard enough are formidable.
You know nothing about Aikido.
CrateofStolenDirt
I get what you are saying, but you're blowing it way out of proportions. Aikido exists and if you want to flame it, you may. But you have no knowledge or respect until you tried it. It is being offered.
In your own metaphore, if your quest was to see a mastodon and 10 people in the city say 'I have one right here' you are obliged to check out at least some of these claims. Same with aikido. You claim it doesn't work, there are many dojos that offer it. Check it out.
CrateofStolenDirt If you want evidence on how effective Aikido is than I suggest you look at the third law of gravity from Isaac Newton as Aikido follows this principle. There are many physicists who practice Aikido and can understand it's techniques by looking at the human body in a physics sense.
Gravity is our friend in Aikido.
CrateofStolenDirt I'm not bullshitting you at all mate I am actually telling you how Aikido works because I actually am an Aikidoka.....so you've chosen the wrong guy to argue over a martial art style. And I don't have to be a physicist to understand basic physic principles.
Your argument has no basis at all because you have not practiced Aikido yourself to understand the techniques and the mechanics of the human body. In fact your argument is pretty much inferential.
Aikido works with both gravity as well as inertia. Movements in Aikido are not linear they are in fact spiral and right angle vectors.
So I am far from making "armchair" hypothesizing mate. And so far my argument is pretty valid. But until then mate unless you've practiced Aikido yourself you don't have any validity to ridicule it.
***** Sanctioned fights are just as silly as street fights, maybe even sillier. Many of the techniques in Aikido would be illegal in sanctioned fights. Aikido is not a fight style. It is a martial art. Fighting is not Budo. It is not even civilized. Two professional athletes fighting in a "sanctioned" fight are gladiators, not martial artists. I trained for two hours last night and can barely move. I promise you that I was doing anything but dancing. youtube videos reveal very little about Aikido. If you've never been in an Aikido dojo practicing one of the more dynamic forms or attended a seminar, you have no idea what you're talking about.
This is like synchronized swimming.
Very beautiful
great demonstration thanks to japan
Aikido looks so beautiful when performed in a demo situation... almost like a dance. A choreographed dance. I just wonder though, how it would work in a true combat situation. Any thoughts?
Hey, I don't think aikido would work in a combat situation. If you decide to learn aikido, think that's it's a form of art/sport but not a combat sport/self defense
@@burnleyindo3297
I completely agree. It's kind of like kung fu... it may LOOK great, but in a street fight or inside a ring, its effectiveness is highly doubtful.
@@tiffsaver yeah! It's a cool art but not one that will save your life in a fight
@@tiffsaver well, Morihei Ueshiba, the founder of Aikido was in Japanese army, as well as Japanese Army instructor in martial arts. He also studied Judo, Jujutsu, Sumo etc.
Early students of Aikido in 20s-60s are also studied different martial arts. The one who didn't join any school besides Aikido, are somewhat have fighting experiences themselves.
Aikido could work, if only the practitioners are knowledgeable in Aikido as well as any other martial arts. Because, atemi in Aikido are essential.
Sadly, nowadays people who practices Aikido aren't engaging in martial arts besides Aikido. So does the atemi techniques aren't properly teached. Aikido couldn't work because the opponent obviously would try to resist, and nowadays Aikidoka couldn't win over them because of self serving practices without any ways to do combat training
@@something7609 грамотный комментарий!☝️
I love Aikiso
The most Beatiful martial art, aikido😉
aside from the techniques that designed to improve your balance and feeling of distance aikido has very strong joint locks and throws. I was trained in wrestling and judo for 6 years and then switched to aikido. I can say that there are very good techniques that work but it looks like general grappling, and does not look beautiful. If people train aikido with understanding of real combat, you can achieve a very good level of skills for combat. BUT people must realize that aikido is just a style of grappling like judo or Greco-Roman wrestling. any person is beatable. people should not get confused that if you learn aikido you can defeat 10 people with one move. that's just stupid.
Thank you. :)
:)
Very well said.
Even experts in all martial arts have said taking on more then 1 person is a challenge. as you can only focus on one at a time. But thanks to movies people believe you gain some magical powers i guess
Like the MMA and UFC fan boys who can't separate a fight in the cage where there's safety measures vs on the street.
I don't see why people complain so much about it being staged - duh, it's what it is. They're showing off skills and such. I bet your eye is just untrained to really see the worth of their skills. You judge off an entire martial art based on one video you don't even understand the context of. Saying aikido won't help you in a combat is like saying a person wearing glasses and holding a book could never win in a fight with you, since they must be nerds. You're just looking on the surface and your conclusions don't even make sence according to the surface...
It's a dying martial art that is too rooted in traditions and philosophy to get it's hands dirty.
Aikido practitioners don't fight or test themselves, they just demonstrate and stagnate while other martial arts and combat sports that are willing to adapt and evolve with the times leave it behind.
Project0061 A whole lot of martial arts are dying.
essennagerry And a lot are gaining in popularity. Especially the effective ones, thanks to the rise of MMA.
+Project0061 So aikido is dying. Where this information came from? Numbers and source please. Thanks.
+essennagerry That was a terrible comparison to make. Anyways, do you care to explain what you mean when you say "your eye is untrained to really see the worth of their skills"?
A arte marcial mais bela e elegante!
I love this vídeo its cool
The way people try to rationalize aikido’s ineffectiveness is ridiculous.
The way people try to put aikido in a competition lot about techniques to destroy someone is ridiculous.
@@Getnodrama So it´s basically martial dancing? Not a martial art that´s meant to be used against an opponent?
@@Aven236 the opponent is transformed into a friend at best or at least he gets tired attacking you ;)
@@Aven236 The great Lao Tseu said :
"The ultimate conqueror is the one who can overcome without fighting."
Does not mean being a weak harmless bunny.
@@Getnodrama I’m not trynna be disrespectful and Akido is beautiful but I’m in Mhuy Thai and an Akido style wouldn’t stand a chance
Hmm.I wouldn't say they're dancing but they are demonstrating movements taught in Aikido.Learn to respect every martial art.
It's as much of a martial art as Tai Chi and Yoga
Hermoso... Elegante... Hokusai (Wave)...
Beautiful
i am starting tomorrow, buzzing
Hermosas coreografias 😁
beautiful
Thanks all!
I like it!
Good luck to all! 🙂
И вам удачи, друг!
It's a lovely dance,with fantastic movement and chryographey , but if u think this works as self defense u are deluded 😞
How little you know. I've done Kickboxing, Jui-Jitsu and Karate as well as Aikido. They're all painful.
IT WORKS, ESPECIALLY WITH MULTIPLE OPPONENTS!
I went up against someone who knew aikido. I do kickboxing. The aikido guy broke my arm in multiple places.
+Juiceslinger Was that before or after you'd navigated the most difficult Assassin's Creed mission?
i am starting aikido next monday.It's beatifull and effective for self-defense,but also for atacking,if it's something serrious
Excelente video 😀.
omg! So elegant :D
make no mistake about it, all these techniques CAN be deadly!..demonstartion is from a very slow dynamic standpoint. viewers focus should be on posture, ki (center), technique from both uke and nage.
agreed. Kaiten nage @4:28 looks like uke stretched a just a tiny bit. Good to see. Asuke you can learn just as much.
james, are you an aikidoist? if so how long have you been on that journey?
E Dantes . I am an enthausiast of Aikido , yes. Watch out for the next generation of good shidoin from Honbu. There are some crazy good uchideshi around at the moment
if they are live in students they have a way to go. the 1st generation is still alive thats all that matters. yamada, ueshiba etc
The next generation is just as important. No one lives forever
" Very Important Martial Arts ". .. So' Nice. .. Osu ... ☺😊😀/💙💙💙/👍👌👏👋
My grandpa practices aikido regularly and instructs it I'm developing more of an interest In it now
Lol people saying aikido doesnt need in a fight, with aikido you learn how to break bones! And a broken bone is more painful than a punch or a kick!
+Zenmaster Jared That exists alrewady: Jujitsu and Karate uses joint locks too just not very often
yeah that is true, maybe i ll try aikido after i ve tried jujitsu for six months, i am really interested in aikido because it permitts you to defend yourself without much violence. P.S. aikido uses punches to distract. You can still learn another martial art while studying aikido. Chen tai chi might interest you as well or pa kua
thanks you, too.
This guy obviously never heard of jiu jitsu.
Exactly bro.
I wanna see some sparring, fuck those demonstrations, I want to see some grip fighting.
Beautiful Aikido. The commentary sounds like the commentary from the movie Best of Show. If you've watched the movie, you'll know what I mean. There is a lot of potential for parody here.
الايكيدو الرياضة الأكثر جاذبية.
omg! where are the REAL fight videos where aikido works? so many demonstations...
all the people that say that aikido is useless its because they never made any martial art
The aikido is usseles
Hermoso y real😛🇲🇽
Sometimes a fight finds you and you can not run away,. There is nothing wrong with fighting. Its what you fight for that makes a difference.
if you tried any of this in a real fight you will not have a good time
People need to let Aikido stick to being a performance art. Leave the fighting for the non-performance arts.
People need to stop ridiculing Aikido....because that's just blatant ignorance. Leave the discussions to actual martial artists.
MrMattias87 Show me footage of Aikido with full force and resistance involved.
TheLifeEntity You Are SO DELUSIONAL
TheLifeEntity Ah that subjective ignorant belief "if it's not in the cage then it's useless in real life"
That tells me that you're an arm chair commentator
This what makes me laugh about you people who think such flawed logic. You can't tell the difference between cage fighting and real life self defense....the media has corrupted you.
Already you're showing that you don't do martial arts of any sort. So if I were you I would shut the fuck up before you say anything more stupid than you look matey.
MrMattias87 It's so painfully pathetic that you had to strawman me just to make a point about the difference between martial arts and fighting. Please stop and save some face for yourself or come back to reality and take my word for what it is.
If Aikidokas claim that Aikido works for self-defense. At least show me some footage of Aikidokas sparring with full resistance instead of a performance.
Se tira solo xD
Looks like an awesome dance
i love martial art
Most of you don't get it. Aikido may not be very useful for skirmishes as most of you are used in mma, but in the end it's YOU wasting time there, you're doing to try your opponent off guard. When the attacker finally decides to punch, kick or whatever else, it's there where Aikido reveals and the stronger you attack, the easier you will be defeated. Believe me.
The problem is that this doesn't work well against anyone who shows the slightest amount of resistance. Famous martial art analyst Jack Slack wrote an article about this. Just look up "Jack Slack Wrist Throw" and it'll be the first thing that pops up.
oddly enough though a lot of Aikido wrist locks can be applied to BJJ when you're searching for certain submissions.
It definitely would not work if you'force it to work and it definitely won't work if you try to keep it stylized traditionally.
If one is resisting then you change techniques instead of trying to force it to work.
That's how Aikido deals with resistance. As well as giving em a good smack as an atemi to do it.
pedobear at 0:27
Thats banjo and kazooie LOL
Masha and medved
I remember when i was kid i loved this cuz i was hurting people:/. Now i hate my self.
I really get a kick out of CZcams comments saying that a choreography demonstration is nothing but choreography.
yes it may be beautiful and graceful, but will it help you in a street fight or against an armed attacker? hell no
i feel bad for the guy who's getting flipped around...
You get used to it....plus you get your turn to do the flipping....so you don't do it "too" aggressively in practice or you end up getting back what you dished out with interest. The stuff in the video is about what you'd expect to do to somebody who was competent in their break falls. So not out of the ordinary.
Hhh i train aikido these falls are smooth when you get used
Nocturnal Creatures hehe, being the attacker is much more physically straining than being the defender in Aikido! But it's fun! (both)
Hai'''' aikido is the awesome skills
VIVE AIKIDO
your wrong it does work in combat
I have nothing wrong with aikido. aikido is a cute, beautiful, spectacular style. I wouldn’t call it a martial art, but rather some martial dance. aikido is practically a stage choreography, with big falls, rotations, landslides, twists, theatrical movements, large-scale movements. it is really spectacular and can be beautiful. I wouldn't call it a sport either, since in aikido "workouts" a person who is overweight or who is weak and has very poor endurance gets tired at most. we prefer to leave the sports token to the actual sports.
i have trouble with commentators who will be brainwashed and fanatical after a year or two of aikido and then write on the page with a foaming mouth that "aikido is a defensive fighting system, one of the best self defense styles in the world, there are very tough trainings, our techniques are cruel , very effective against group attacks, very effective against knives, very effective against machine guns ". Then when the normal answers come and describe that this whole self-defense bullshit is very over-panted, plus in such street misfortunes (which won’t happen to an average person anyway), even boxing and wrestling don’t work, let alone kamu aikido. and then those commentators go crazy and hysterically start referring to the black belts of their cheating masters and the CZcams videos that "aikido is really effective, invented for self-defense, it has to be done for a long time, and then any drugged, aggressive, shit-free, vipered Roma it will work against aikido because it is the style of the gods ". well now it’s very hard to start with commentators like that because half of it is troll and the other half is absolutely out of the picture. they’ll be littered with a few proles on the train one day or a nose of an alcoholic ox in the pub, and then maybe they’ll realize that street conflicts don’t work in reality as they do in their heads, and then maybe aikido won’t be as divine in style either.
but I have the same problem with wing tsunos, krav seeders, ninjutsus, and other money-laundering style commentators. they have been so fooled by rogue coaches that they no longer have any contact with reality, so there is no room for reason.
This is an art made for respect, humility, and “dancing” effectively, it’s not a self defense art.
Aikido is so beautiful and elegant.
Master gentlemen.
But,
It has to be more realistic.
Maybe make the one who takes the fall some countermove techniques to make it interesting.
Epic landings?
"Aikido not the best art for self defense"? You don't know what you're talking about. There is no "best" art. Each martial art has different specializations for different situations. And don't even compare it to jiujitsu or anything else. I don't know how a jiujitsu practitioner would fare against multiple opponents, but I know an aikidoka would do well. I say "I don't know" because I'm not afraid to admit it and I don't pretend to be a smartypants like you, steve b.
Exactly. You also have to not only consider the art but the artist. Every one is different. While Aikido might work for one individual; Jiu Jitsu or Tai Chi may work better for someone else. Different strokes for different folks, as they say.
Are you kidding me the techniques aikido teaches have proven to be severally ineffective against one opponent let alone multiple opponents. Have you ever seen aikido used in any mma organization? No? you why not? because its highly ineffective and very low percentage.
SEF LV it was made to defend yourself while not injuring your attacker.
SEF LV Because MMA rules strictly prohibit the use of Aikido, Hapkido, Tai Chi, all kinds of Kung Fu including Wing Chun... precisely because they are very effective ... attack, protection - counterattack, end ...that's all ...no blood, no gladiatorial performances, no spectacle .
Who would want to spend money on a battle that lasted from 20 seconds to a minute.I think nobody would.
SEF LV To be effective Wing Tsun impact is in sensitive areas and points of the body - the trachea, carotid vein testicles EYES, nerves
In Aikido break fingers, wrists, elbows, causing hit, which break ribs, cervical spine ... that you do not see this at demonstration, does not mean that Aikido does not use hit
When MMA rules prohibit it, these flghters are forced to fight without their advantage ... that is the reason for which they do not participate in this fights, but only in demonstrations, where the techniques are demonstrated very very carefully and with experienced partners.
Nice dance !!
At least I was respectful...I called it a demo.....LOL
this is aikido waza. a demonstration of techniques. you obviously havent experienced the pain aikido can bring.
No i haven't
Alex Gallegos we are feeling the pain of watching this fake nonsense. its just so phony that's why you never ever see real matches. if there are any please let me know, meanwhile keep dancing pal.
What dance, man??? :O
It's so graceful and elegant. I love it.
Aikido is the WWE of martial arts.
To those who comment without even knowing what Aikido is. Perhaps a little Google would help. Or ignorance could be bliss. Your choice.
Blisssssssssssssssssss.
If ignorance is bliss, what is delusion? I've watched, at this point, dozens of "demonstrations"and every single one of them is as choreographed as any ballet.
Evidence or GTFO.
"If ignorance is bliss, what is delusion?"
Um using youtube videos as measurable evidence is pretty delusional. you can't judge a martial art's effectiveness just by watching.
Unconvincing choreographed dancing, not combat. And this is coming from someone who thinks Aikido works fine for self defense.
I know it's not very convincing... because what we really see in DEMONSTRATIONS are mostly choreographed. But listen to this man, my father was a very prolific aikido practitioner. One night (18 years ago) he went home late.. as he went home he encountered 3 punks/gangster/jackass.. and pointed guns and knives to him asking for money. What he did, he gave his wallet then as the punks flew out of the scene, he grabbed the guy with the gun and snapped his neck. Dead on the spot. the other two with broken arms. THIS IS NOT A SPORT. Aikido was designed to use less force but create momentous impact. As my father always told me that teaching this to me should require time and patience. What we see in demonstrations is just the practical use of Aikido, but he said to me that it was a very dangerous art.
By the way, he was 57 years old back then when this happened.
DON'T JUDGE TOO QUICKLY BRO.
elayda93 All it comes from years of practice, not from technique itself. Its like when you carry water every day after some years you gonna become much stronger, but do u need to carry water to become stronger?
elayda93 sounds like a made up story
elayda93 So did your father do any time for killing that thug, or did he flee from the scene to not be caught? I know that he was a victim of a crime, but it must have been an interesting case, because if he waited for the person to be off guard, he was no longer defending himself.
I personally think it is a wonderful demonstration of Aikido. And I'm an Instructor of Aikido. It is sharp, focused, harmonized and quick!
That's the way it should practice.
Awesome
por eso es el arte marcial de la paz, aunque es letal en los huesos y articulaciones del ser humano
si si
When you turn a fighting style into demonstrations and ignore combat you turn into aikido. Worthless
it looks really amazing. but against a noncompliant/combative opponent? I just dont know.
+Paul Daluz Aikido can be quite effective....The MMA idiots always state if it doesn't work in a ring, than it doesn't matter...whatever. There is a reason that many police departments, bodyguards, and even military training incorporates aikido. It may not be the only thing they study, but it is a primary art for them. It works quite well in a real fight. I've only seen it used once, but watched someone at a party trying to punch someone else and watched them be thrown in a kaitenage into a wall so hard they were incapacitated. Aikido demos are just that....DEMOS.....We aren't trying to hurt each other. Believe it or not....it can work well without the whole I want to kill them mentality. The one true knock on Aikido, after studying it for a long time...is that it takes a LONG time to get good at. That doesn't mean it's ineffective, just that to be really proficient at it will take many years.
+Physmanic I do MMA. And Im not an idiot.....I beg your pardon. However I also work in Law enforcement. I do agree with you that in law enforcement most officers who train in martial arts use either aikido, aiki jujutsu or Hakko Ryu jujutsu. ........all descendant arts of the Daito Ryu system. Furthermore, to support your claims, after working in Law enforcement for so long, you'll eventually develop a distaste for violence and can appreciate arts like Aikido thats designed to not hurt your opponent and actually be accountable for him. You have to respect that. My only concern, is that how effective can that be against a trained opponent? Nowadays, everyone has some kind of MMA training. Thats why I posted my comment. So that people such as yourself can educate me. :-)
+Paul Daluz I would agree, and I am sorry for using the term "idiot", I just get tired of people disparaging aikido who have never practiced it or experienced it. It gets old. I think Aikido can be very effective against a trained opponent, however, it can also be difficult. One of the things with aikido, is that it requires a committed attack. If the attacker has not committed, you can't really unbalance them, or rather, not easily without the use of extensive atemi, etc. So, if you have someone who just wants to jab and throw exploratory strikes, you can't do much with those from an Aikido perspective. Of course, at that point, I would merely step out of range and wait until they committed. I enjoy MMA for what it is, but I think that MMA people also overestimate their art and don't acknowledge the limitations that fighting in a ring with rules and a ref impart on their practice as well. The thing with aikido is time. I would posit that to become truly proficient in Aikido to the point where you can use it against a trained attacker takes at least 8-10 years. This is both a strength, but is also a weakness of aikido. Aikido is beautiful, fluid, and can be very effective, but it is also subtle, nuanced, and complicated....and takes a long time to learn, this what I love about it...it's NOT easy......BUT, others feel differently. Which is why I tell people thinking of Aikido that if they just want to learn a fast self defense art....take Tae Kwon Do....you'll get your black belt in like 2-3 years, and will master it much quicker, but if you like the principles of Aikido, are patient, and willing to put up with the frustration, then by all means...come along. LOL.
+Paul Daluz I would agree, and I am sorry for using the term "idiot", I just get tired of people disparaging aikido who have never practiced it or experienced it. It gets old. I think Aikido can be very effective against a trained opponent, however, it can also be difficult. One of the things with aikido, is that it requires a committed attack. If the attacker has not committed, you can't really unbalance them, or rather, not easily without the use of extensive atemi, etc. So, if you have someone who just wants to jab and throw exploratory strikes, you can't do much with those from an Aikido perspective. Of course, at that point, I would merely step out of range and wait until they committed. I enjoy MMA for what it is, but I think that MMA people also overestimate their art and don't acknowledge the limitations that fighting in a ring with rules and a ref impart on their practice as well. The thing with aikido is time. I would posit that to become truly proficient in Aikido to the point where you can use it against a trained attacker takes at least 8-10 years. This is both a strength, but is also a weakness of aikido. Aikido is beautiful, fluid, and can be very effective, but it is also subtle, nuanced, and complicated....and takes a long time to learn, this what I love about it...it's NOT easy......BUT, others feel differently. Which is why I tell people thinking of Aikido that if they just want to learn a fast self defense art....take Tae Kwon Do....you'll get your black belt in like 2-3 years, and will master it much quicker, but if you like the principles of Aikido, are patient, and willing to put up with the frustration, then by all means...come along. LOL.
Ineffective bullshit. Just shows how they are able to roll over like an idiot. Would never work in a real fight.
And what would u know about "real fight".... Masta?
I know that shit wouldn't happen otherwise aikido would be used more often in mma
look... i practice aikido for 3 years. and i know that maybe 50% of aikido hardly work in a real situation. but the other 50% are totaly usefull and efective. im not talking about throws, but wrist locks, manipulation, control, and stuff like that.
but for ignorants that dont understand the philosophy of aikido, keep thinking that way... we dont want people like you training and we dont have to prove you nothing
oh.. and just one more thing.
if aikido does not work, why police officers are training it since the 80's?
you thing police are training useless stuff to protect the people?
Victor Albuquerque Police officers use it because it works for their job. Most situations with police escalate from resisting the arrest therefore the hands are already given to the officer making those bullshit look really effective.
The real question you need to be asking is why isn't there an aikido master in mma? Answer it's ineffective as the opponent is not willingly going to give up his/her hands just so you can manipulate it.
So my comment still stands as is "It's still ineffective bullshit".
a very good practice ...
This is beautiful and so smooth
But I wonder… if someone would really attack me
And I mean attack me like try to kick me and choke me and so on
Would I be able to defense myself? With something that looks like a choreography?
I looks cool but also like something that won’t work in many situations
No definitely not, I recommend taking Judo instead. It’s no flashy but it’s the same style and it works.