Gen Z Are Turning to Trades Instead of Colleges
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Gen Z is turning into trades instead of a traditional 4 years college degree amidst the cost of living crisis, inflation, and high tuition fees.
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So boomers are complaining that Gen Z doesn’t want to work, yet we seek out work and the boomers don’t want to hire Gen Z because of “inappropriate” behavior. It’s not all of us because I’ve gotten the “You’re more hard working than the rest of your generation” and “what keeps you motivated to work”, my response is always “grew up in poverty, still live in poverty, I don’t want my future family to still live in poverty, oh, and struggling to make rent”. Plus, I’ve gotten the “You must make eye contact, speak with more confidence, and project yourself”, even though that results with “Don’t give me that attitude” and “Who do you think you are?”, and the “Sorry but with that kind of attitude you won’t make it far”. WHAT AM I SUPPOSE TO DO!?!?!?
Lol exactly. Boomers don't want to hire Gen Z but complain Gen Z don't want to work. And the attitude thing is correct too 😂. Hang in there man, it's tough for all Millennials, Gen Z, and in the future, Gen Alpha
@@axolotltheories I was born in 1992 so I’m gen Y or millennial
The point isn't to satisfy them---no matter what you do they'll be unsatisfied. Their dissatisfaction is a choice that gets them free stuff, so they have no incentive to be satisfied.
What you do is learn that very little of this "feedback" matters. It's unpleasant noise. None of these people care about you so any "feedback" is intended to provide a better result for them--not you.
The trick is to give them the absolute minimum, then when they complain and make a fuss, make a show of them winning and give them what you planned on giving them anyway. They feel validated that they "won", and you get the money without actually taking in their "feedback". There's no point incorporating it anyway, because the important thing is not the feedback, but their feeling of success in having given it. These sort of people don't actually care about the results, just that their feelings are validated.
Yes it's a pain in the ass and inauthentic. But you understand this, dealing with these sort of boomers becomes much easier
Boomers don't understand that women during their time didn't work. Nowadays, both men and women work so there are a lot less jobs available.
And “You don’t have enough experience!” BS. How are they supposed to get any experience when these p in he ads keep turning them away for lack of experience?
LOL. Have you ever tried working a blue collar job? I am an electrician the least physically demanding blue collar job. I hate working this job everyday, constant climbing ladders, kneeling, walking etc. I work in commercial buildings we constantly have to bend pipes manually to put cables in. I would rather work in an office and sit than work my ass off everyday for every penny in a trades job. Sure you earn a a lot in trades but you earn every penny of it, sucking every energy out of you, by the time you get home you are physically exhausted to do anything. Just to clarify no im not stupid, i was a straight A student in high school and for some reason I thought that working in an office was not worth it because I liked to move around and being hands on. What a huge mistake I made. There is a reason why trades job have a shortage of workers, because this is a LABOUR job that is physically exhausting. The people promoting these jobs never have done labour jobs in their life thinking that it is worth going in the trades just because of the employment itself. Not only this but you have to be physically fit for this job, which already cuts majority of candidates, dont be expecting to go in a construction site barely capable of doing the work cause you are weak, you will get laid off for not producing enough. I have seen this happen many times, hire a bunch of new apprentices that are not even capable of working hard, and they always get laid off after a few months. A study shows that 54 percent of people who go in trades eventually give up that trade to pursue something else showing a high turnover rate. I work a 14 days on 7 days off schedule, 12 hour days and i make around 180k a year. This wage is not average for trades workers, I happen to be in a union and work up north in remote areas that's the only reason I make a lot. Most Electricians/trade workers work in the city and make below 70k. The average white collar makes more than 70k average sitting in the office. Its not worth it, the only reason I stay is for the money. I would rather work in an office make 100k but have a work life balance and enjoy a life than chasing the money. Im already saving up to take a bachelors degree and change my careers because these type of jobs you cant work till 55 unless you want to break your body and be physically exhausted on a daily. If I can go back in time I would go back to college, choose a useful degree like engineering and have a guaranteed job. The degrees in this video portrays is majority useless degrees like marketing and liberal arts degrees. There is a big difference between a useful college degree and useless college degree. Pick wisely. Trades are not worth it, specially in this day and age with remote work and endless opportunity to be sitting in an office and not working your body to death. My body is already partly broken, muscles aches, back pain and im only 26. Just look at old trades workers, they are limping, their bodys are fucked up. Its up to you to make this decision. There is 2 sides of a story, this video only shows one side.
Thanks for sharing your experience, Martin. I talked about the downsides of blue collar work at the end of the video as well.
It's not all good. Can be physically demanding. I'm a bit surprised that you're already feeling it at 26. I don't work blue collar so I don't actually know the extent of the labor and the hours required.
However, we currently have too many degree holders and not enough jobs that require degrees. It's okay for some people to consider blue collar jobs.
White collar jobs can be very competitive and not suitable for everyone. Remote jobs that pay well is limited as well.
I guess people need to give their career more thoughts either that's blue collar or white collar because clearly both have pros and cons.
🙂
Why would a straight A student choose a tradesman life. There is no excuse. Did you have anyone to guide you? I was a straight B student but my brother was straight A. I knew I wanted a life like him so I studied my ass off in bachelors and masters and have been working in IT related office job for 15+years. Brain is always more valued than Physicality.
@@jayfloramusic Yea it was a huge mistake on my part. My school guided us as they had this program convincing lots of students to go into trades because there was a shortage. I fell for the scam, and I regret it ever since, but im saving up now to change careers. Trades are not worth it, there is a huge reason why there is a shortage because if the job was so good then everyone would flock to be a tradesmen which is not the case.
@@axolotltheories That is fair. Sometimes its not about the money either, sometimes you need a work life balance and if you do research these trade jobs have a bad work life balance. The trades people earning 100k+ a year are the ones working 70+ hours a week. Its even worse when you are not in a unionized workplace like the IBEW. Companies take advantage of you and you don't get a pension. For example I work at 48 an hour but every hour I work I get 6 dollars put in my pension so a 12 hour day is 72 dollars in my pension. Majority of trades jobs are not unionized, so If i were to work for a non-union electrical company I would be underpaid and earn 35-40 an hour with no pension. Not only this but being in a unionized workplace is hard to get into. They look at your high school grades, look into your post secondary grades. The people working non-union jobs get screwed over which is the majority of the workforce of blue collar jobs. I cant recommend trades jobs to anyone unless you are an immigrant with a family who recently immigrated to Canada, or someone who cant do post secondary and this is there only option besides a low skilled low paying job. College degree holders (useful ones) always beat blue collar jobs and earn more in a lifetime and there are studies done by this. Gen Z generation should stop taking useless liberal arts degrees and start taking STEM degrees which has a high job security even for new grads.
@@jayfloramusic Computer engineers apparently make $150k on average. In some areas. IT is definitely a good sector to get into.
But do you worry that AI will make your job redundant? Because of things like Copilot. Maybe there won't be as much need for IT workers in the future. I guess same case can be argued for blue collar jobs.
Education doesn't guarantee a high paying job.. but it can get you out of the low quality jobs. The system realized people will still work, even at low pay, as long as they don't have to do the worst jobs.. so now we have educated people being paid less just because they're trying not to be the lowest person on the ladder.. and they're in debt for it. Disgusting!!!
I agree. Everyone thinks white collar job is better, so willing to do the "better" job with lesser pay just to not be on the bottom of the ladder...
I personally think blue collar work is not worse than white collar though. I think people need to be more open minded.
Blue collar is honest hard work, people in the field deserves respect and recognition. And some get paid very well too. 😁
@@axolotltheories ..people are prejudiced against the working class of our country.. like no one respects honest work as much as they respect money.. blue collar jobs are jobs with dignity, it's incredible to have an actual skill instead of being a paper pusher.. but physical labor takes a huge toll on a workers body, those careers are much shorter because people get hurt and then you're done.. we don't have much of a safety net for those people when their bodies break down.. and for those who don't want to work physical labor, they shouldn't be forced to get a degree and go into a lifetime of debt just trying to get an education.. no one is being paid what they're worth, no matter what color your collar is.. our whole system is dysfunctional right now.
It does gaurantee time wasted and high debt. Transfer credits are better option.... trade school is best option
Degrees are only worth it if you’re going to school to be a doctor
@@SheilaLJonesthat’s a very narrow view of how society works
When I got my trade degree, no one cared, and I couldn't find a job. I then got my Ivy League Master's Degree, and then no one can find a job. Why is this world against me.
Lol. I think you just had bit of bad timing 😅. In cases like this I always tell myself that god has something planned for me. Maybe if you had stayed in trade for those years you would've gotten severely injured. So god diverted you on another path temporarily. Who knows. Maybe not having much luck with a Master's degree will lead you to do something different with your life like start a business or something. 🤷♀
On the bright side, you can now do both. You can go back to trade anytime or stay in academic and get a white collar job. What industry are you in now? Are you doing something with your trade degree?
Damn. Dude got a trade degree, they laughed and denied you a job.
And when you came back with a whole masters degree they still don't wanna hire you??
"I have enough dedication to move moutains, in a world that wants to pay me in pennies for it."
Makes no sense to me that college time or trade school time isn't considered experience. Like all that does is limit the job pool needlessly, because companies are too lazy to do the bare minimum in training the people they hire. And for some of these jobs you don't even NEED that much experience!
"1-2 years experience- motherfucker this is a PUBLIX!"
@@RonaldBaker-of6sd they must really hate you as a person
@@farronblaze2952 Companies that are “hiring” will never invest in job training.
Whats your degree on ? Liberal arts ?
As a non USA citizen it's really complicated to try to understand how higher education is seen as a pure investment in the US, the amount of debt is just insane unless you're hitting STEM or Medical School, it's overwhelming how normalized it is to think of everything purely as an investment where in other places of the world it's a human right.
So jealous of the people who can get their degrees completely for free. What if it's medical school or law school, are those free as well?
It's not just in the US that it's not free. It's not free in Canada as well. And many other countries.
@@axolotltheories it's a lot cheaper in Canada though
@@axolotltheories yes they are free as well, public universities are subsidized by the state allowing students to pay practically nothing to get college education, of course we have private institutions where costs are equal to some US prices for example, but those are actually a luxury.
If I’m not mistaken every English speaking country’s college education has a cost, which while I don’t consider it to be a bad thing until you realize how much it’s worth and the single fact of going into debt for it.
@@Sanscripter I think so too
@@e_gerardo Agree. A non-free degree isn't necessarily a bad thing unless you can't get a job with it.
A lot of degrees though, although doesn't allow you to get a job right after college, can still be a stepping stone onto another career with additional schooling. That I would consider a good thing. A worth it spending I feel.
As I always said: Shit was fine until Reagan got elected.
What happened when he was elected?
@@axolotltheoriesReagan sold out the middle class.
Reagan sold the middle class down the river.
@@johnshafer7214 I see. I'll look into it. Maybe make a video on it 👍Seems like a good topic
Regan was elected because things were not fine. The 70's were rough on the country.
I’m a blue worker, I am a HVAC technician. I started late in this field at 27 years old. I paid a total of $360 to get my universal EPA certification and a certificate from the local community college. First year in I was lied to, and I had to become an installer. Installing takes a real number on your body after my year and a half I then became a technician. My salary when I started in the trade I made $15hr. Now I made $50hr and I just do troubleshooting and changing out parts less than 2 pounds. I also work for union so I cannot just be fired the next day. If there is something I do not want to do as far as lift up heavy equipment that is why I have two people working with me to do that lol. Trades Not for everybody and neither is college. You have to find what you’re good at. I also become a good stock trader and trade stocks as well. You’re not going to be able to turn a wrench the rest of your life. Make the money while you’re young and invest so you can get out early and enjoy your life. Choose your future how you see success.
That's amazing. You're lucky to have a union so they can be your advocate. I agree, blue collar work can be great career paths for some but not for others.
You definitely deserve the pay you have now. It's not something just anyone can do.
And yes, blue collar workers can always take advantage of the higher pay, invest the money, retire early, so they don't have to worry about declining body strength and the work load later on
I doubt this
This is my exact plan bro! I’m studying stocks right now & I literally just enrolled into a technical school for hvac
@@mba2ceoThis is the reality bro, and if anything he’s making way less than what he should be
I work in fire alarm, its low pay to start as all things but after two years you'll make 30+ an hour and be licensed in a high demand field with very few knowledgeable workers to fill.
Since graduating at 19 from technical college with a major in welding in August 2014, I’ve collectively made $1.3 million on payroll with no student debt. The current job I’m at which I’ve been here for 3.5 years now, I started out making $71.95/hr and I’m currently at $80.05/hr, and I’m just a regular welder in a gigantic shop. Full healthcare, PTO, 401k etc etc. Trades work isn’t for everyone, but if it is there’s money in it.
That's amazing! Hope your comment inspire some people to go into trades.
Holy crap
Sounds like you’re in oil and gas. I’ve heard welders who work out on oil rigs make tons of money.
Please tell me about welding. I saved up my money and want to go to TULSA WELDING SCHOOL in TEXAS but I'm afraid the job requires my to stand still for many hours. I have ADHD. Will I have to stand still all day long? I like to move around and do physical labour. When this year ends I'll go to Texas.
I'm doing welding as well, and I notice people are doing welding rather than doing a 2-year degree at least. I'm surprised 😮 and I am gonna do that.
Everyone tries to get a job on campus to use as experience. I can guarantee it isn't going to work.
Yeah those on campus jobs are useless
Could you explain why? Do they see that the University is the employer and think that it's just a school thing and not really a job?
@@commentbot9510 A lot of the jobs are volunteer jobs that use a computer, but a computer could be used for anything. Unless someone is doing a job that is specific to jobs that they'll apply to after graduation, employers will ask questions about the job and might conclude that it wasn't useful.
@@djtwister6997 You just learn communication skills and prove that you're easy to work with.
I managed to get a daycare job for student parents and it was provided by the university, it helped pay the rent but it definitely did not help
i was a "gifted kid" who burnt out in high school and graduated with a 2.1 gpa. people around me were moving out of state to their "dream schools" while i was lucky enough to get accepted into the local state university, a commuter campus. now, in college, i'm flourishing. i still live at home, but some of my high school friends are going thousands of dollars into debt while i SAVE thousands of dollars. from grants alone, my entire tuition is covered for the next year. it's actually cheaper than the local community college. i may not be going to an ivy league, but the education is good. i love being on a small campus with professors who actually care about me, and people who are more focused on bettering their lives than drinking and partying.
i'm currently double majoring in psychology and neuroscience, but i'm considering other STEM fields. even if i go into engineering, i'm terrified i won't be able to get a job after college. but trade school isn't for me. and i think, at least in my situation, going to college is still a good idea because i will walk away with almost zero debt. but i also recognize not everybody is this lucky, and even so, i am terrified for the future. i and many others my age were told growing up to go to university and get a degree. we were sold the idea of ivy leagues, out of state schools that cost thousands of dollars to attend. i just think it's funny now that my state school degree will likely be worth just as much as theirs.
You will get a job with an engineering degree don't worry
I’m a millennial almost 30 years old and made the mistake of listening to others and going to college. I ended up 40,000 in debt and not counting anything i paid out of pocket. Didn’t know what i was doing. Believe it or not it took me 18 months to pay all that debt back from August 2022 to March 2024. Also bought an Acura during that time brand new off the dealership lot. Don’t have that debt anymore and I am a server in a higher end restaurant full time and I do DoorDash/Uber Eats/Spark in my free time to supplement my income. Simple stop listening to others and listen to yourself and don’t take loans out.
Wait how the he'll you ended up with only 40k debt in a 4 year college and managed to have the acura paid off at the same time??
Exactly. I'm happy you paid it all off. Most people would use as long as possible to pay it off.
It's better to not have that hanging over your shoulder. Get it over with fast.
Some servers can make good money, on the surface it may not appear that way but you may be doing better financially than a lot of people who are out there enjoying their lives to the max. But are in deep debts. You can never tell just by looking at them.
@@shad0w_g4ming Maybe he has some scholarships and the tips from being a server 👀
He said he's working at a higher end restaurant. I've heard a woman who's making 100k per year as a server with a bachelor's degree. With tips of course. And that's maybe 5-8 years ago. May be even more now with inflation.
@axolotltheories yea maybe, that's impressive regardless, I have a car loan and trade school to pay off, I'm trying to pay that off as soon as possible but man it's difficult for me, I don't have a good job at all and I just don't know what to do... I made some shitty mistakes in my life
@@shad0w_g4ming Just take it one day at a time. It's ok, a lot of people are in the same boat.
Try to not hang out with people who spend big so you don't feel compel to do the same and lose track of your financial goal.
I don't know your exact story but if I were you I would look through my banking statement, cut unnecessary expenses, subscriptions that I'm not using, I'd cancel, cook every meal, not eat out, stop going out with friends for a while, pick up a side hustle, get a roommate or move back in with parents to save rent money, etc.
Don't worry about your mistakes, whatever it was, it's in the past. Can't undo it. It just means you get to live the rest of your life not repeating the same mistake. If you need to learn it at some point, better learn it now than later.
I'm a computer technician and network administrator. I'm working part time as a dishwasher. Just about ready to call it quits.
Wait I don't get it. How did that happen? I thought the market was really good for computers and Tech.
@@jacobsoto7228 Nonsense. You think there being 9k job listings for what
I know is a lot because there's no one to fill it up? Clearly no spots left.
Unless you don't intend to study STEM, Law or economics... Don't study at all
Some people are rich tho. They can afford to study whatever interests them and just enjoy their time in uni because when they're done, they'll return to work on their family business. I met a few international students from China who did that. The rest of us kinda have to study something useful.
Another scenario is if you just need a bachelor to apply to graduate schools like medical school or something. As long as you get the required courses, they don't care about what program you studied under. In fact, sometimes they have a quota to fill so they want people from less common programs to get in. Not having a stem degree or law or economics degree can be an advantage in that case.
@@axolotltheories That's is interesting indeed...
I have a bachelor's in marketing communication. Quite useless degree tbh.
I was wondering if i could continue studying something more analytical like data science or economics. So in theory, if I'd get some courses, learn math and statistics properly. I maybe could switch. Or get another bachelors degree...
I am from eastern europe. Universities are cheap here and often even paid by the state so that is quite an advantage at least.
But the provided education quality is sometimes... questionable.
@@XM_Josaux Mhm I think you should definitely look into a more useful degree. Maybe you'll have to switch and graduate later but plenty of people graduate later than planned. In Canada and USA the average number of years to finish 4 years bachelor is I think 6 years.
You may also be able to work for a US company if you have a data science degree. Or they can sponsor you to move to US for work. Higher pay
Economics degree isn't really a useful degree. I don't think so. Computer science, data science, STEM, engineering, those are degrees with high employment
I wouldn’t recommend law tbh. Imagine the job prospects of a communications degree… with 5x the debt. Better really love litigation lol
That’s why im gonna be a lawyer
Tried it. Not for me. People don’t realize this, but you can get into a comfortable job. You just have to aim for it. Most comfortable jobs are held by women and that’s because they aim for those jobs. This lady that’s presented in the beginning of the video, by next year she’ll probably be in a HR job or an online marketing job working from home.most people give up within a year. Even when you join a random company work yourself into these comfortable jobs
I agree with this. To get a comfortable work-life, you need to make it happen rather than leaving it up to chance.
Factory worker here on a 4 days on 4 days off shift. My work life balance is crazy good
@@forestflood5338 That sounds pretty good.
@@forestflood5338 that is good to hear
You have to know people for those jobs. Men in general are poor and business degrees are way too general. Go on hormones if your under 18 and if your one of these things (Suck / Don't care for sports, have interests in anime, are short, eating actual meat doesn't build much protein because your genetically a soyboy) go on hormones and then try getting jobs in healthcare if your not fit for construction. Being a troon is better than being a homeless grandpa.
Let's just build our own cool new, self sustaining, walkable towns. With our own economy.
You mean overthrow the us goverment and make that part of a plan, right on
Yes
Living in fantasy land is nice isn’t it ?
@@Punicia I'm actually doing it👍
Also there's a higher demand for trades than careers. If your car broke down, who are you calling. If your plumbing is bad, who are you calling?
If you’re injured, who’re you calling. If you’re in legal trouble, who are you calling? Goes both ways.
Right now, there are more demands for trades workers, so the people getting in right now would benefit from the higher pay so it's definitely something worth considering going into
@@bryant7082lmao 😂
If there is something strange in the neighbourhood, who you gonna call?
You see and that's the point if you guys are going to go to college then aim for those careers if you're not go to a trade school and start working plumbing, electrician , or mechanic. I can't believe that doesn't go through your head. BuT iT gOeS bOtH wAyS 🤷🏻 FYI bud this isn't a fairy tale sometimes your dream job won't land but I guess y'all rather complain and make less than minimum wage 😆 @@bryant7082
I honestly wish I would’ve gone to community college instead when I graduated high school. I made the poor choice of getting too excited when I got accepted to my “dream university”. I was trying to get my BSN degree for nursing and ended up failing pharmacology during my first semester. Then I was told that my only option was to spend an extra year in college, given that I wouldn’t fail another class, and end up with nearly 100k in debt, or switch to an associate degree program and still end up with 80k in debt but no bachelor’s degree. At that moment, I decided to drop out and work a CNA job instead since I only had 26k in debt. Honestly the best decision I made, I still plan on going back to community college to pursue an LPN or RN degree, and I’d still be making pretty much the same as a ASN nurse as I would BSN nurse. The only difference is literally the letters and the fact that BSN nurses can become nurse educators, which I don’t even want to be 😂
University shouldn't be this expensive. They're just scamming people at this point. Glad you were smart enough to not fall down the 100k degree trap.
You can always go back to school later on when you have more experience and wisdom to make the right choice.
I've actually heard some RN make upwards of 200K-300K salary, but they have to work very long hours and take many shifts to get there.
Nursing is quite versatile, you can be educator, travel nurse (relatively easy chill load), become nurse practitioner with higher salary, etc. It's a good career although I heard it's kinda stressful
Nursing is awful.. everyone wants out because the system is broken.. long hours, high levels of assault, terrible contracts, patient neglect because of nightmare nurse to patient ratios.. can't believe anyone in healthcare is forced to take on debt to go be an indentured to the almighty healthcare cartel. Medicare for All ❤️🇺🇸
I’m planning on going to community college and getting my associates and then doing the test for registered nursing right now
@@axolotltheoriesit seems to me like in terms of money, you get out what you put in, people will pay you more if you’re certified more but I think I’ll be comfortable with not too much
@@bygxne0
Same with me, but another thing to take into consideration at least for my best interest is that with a higher degree comes more responsibility as well. Nursing by itself is already a beast, and I couldn’t imagine being a head nurse or nurse supervisor. I’m also on the autism spectrum, and being in a manager role is definitely not for me. Everything that goes wrong will eventually fall in your lap
Not to mention trades jobs are essentially recession proof. No matter what state the economy is in, we'll always need plumbers, electricians, framers, drywallers, etc.
Is healthcare worker in this?
@@marmedalmond9958 Yes.
Untill ai replaces millions of jobs
@@thomasjones3206 fr
@@thomasjones3206 chatgpt alone cannot repair your plumbing system
I have a physical disability that prevents me from doing trade jobs.
hey, idk your physical disability but to you or anyone this is for, have you thought about being a funeral director? It's an associates degree, and if you work at a big place, you can delegate your responsibilities to others. Speaking from personal experience 🦇
Genarational skill issue
@@sonicwithglasses131 probs not generational, but ye, its still a disadvantage 💁♀️
Honestly, getting a university degree is an investment - treat it like that. You not only invest your money but also your time, it's a great place to start and a good qualification but you also need experience through apprenticeships and so forth. I'd only recommend it to people who actually need it to pursue their future dream-job such as an engineer, lawyer, doctor or software developer.
Spot on!
That is a dumb idea that everyone is rushing to trade school because that will cause to a job shortage, what people should look out is to find the option they want
It’s not about what you want, it’s what you need.
@@thegranner9965 yup but it will cause the same problem at the end unfortunately
i want to be an artist, its to risky to go to college for that now, i literally cant do what i want because any day my boss could decide to train a bot to do my job. not everyone can do what they want
I will never understand the American education system. I am wierdly happy to have been born in Africa
It’s outdated and inefficient.
I’m a 31 year old millennial that was one of the lucky ones to get a job as a pediatrician. I tell my teenage Gen Z patients the honest truth that some degrees aren’t worth the debt… unless you’re going into tech or becoming a doctor. And even then, you may have to fight “tooth and nail” to get into specialties like neurology and plastic surgery against mid-levels(Physician Assistants or P.A.) or certain tech fields.
24 year old zoomer here. When I got out of high school I jumped into an automation controls job building control panels. I'm not rich or anything, but I was able to get a mortgage on a house at 22 and I plan to have it totally renovated and paid off by 30. I have no other debt. I take night classes at the local community college(normally at least, since right now is summer break lol) learning Japanese since I had the money and free time to do it. I very rarely work overtime, so I'm considering taking more classes in my current career field to try and aim for an engineer position. I might go into accounting instead though, I'm moderately interested in a field that would allow me to work remotely as it would allow me to travel all I want.
Blue collar work doesn't exactly make you rich,but being able to get into "The Real World" sooner and with no debt at all allows you to build up savings, retirement, and assets before your peers even get out of college. And because your peers are likely shackled with college debt, even if they jump into a job making 3 or 4 times a blue collar worker's salary they might not have their net worth pass a moderately frugal tradesman's net worth until they're both 40 years old. Not to mention that at least half the degrees you can earn are likely totally useless in the practical sense and cannot get you a job. 2 of my friends are stuck with trap degrees, and I think they're going to become plumbers very soon.
I don't understand why you guys in America don't have the necessary experience. I'm from Germany, originally from Ireland, whereupon completing the 13-year Abitur, you could pursue a 3-year-degree and an apprenticeship to boot. This is what we call the duales Studium where a specific Numerus Clausus( grade is required). Could you shed a little more light on why this isn't more prevalent
@@user-br3bo7wo3m There are plenty of employers in America who will pay for an employee's college and do a paid apprenticeship if they're in need of a certain position. CPAs come to mind. The problem is that high school teachers tell students that they need to go straight to college and pick a random degree to work towards. The vast majority of college students don't have the slightest idea what their career will look like, just that their degree will "do something about it". That's how you end up with 5000 poor fools with a master's degree in Malaysian history and $250k in student debt, when the only thing you can really do with such a degree is go teach Malaysian history in a college, sometimes barely above minimum wage.
@@user-br3bo7wo3m I typed this 40 minutes ago, but it isn't showing up so I think youtube shadow banned it. In America, high school teachers push students to go into college and more or less randomly choose a degree. They do not think about the career after college, they just assume their degree will "take care of it". This leads to hundreds, if not tens of thousands of graduates every year with totally useless degrees in something like Malaysian history(no offense to Malaysian people, it's just not a degree that has a practical use outside of Malaysia) and $100k in student debt. This cannot secure a job other than teaching Malaysian history in college for barely above minimum wage. Something like 50% of degrees offered by many schools are like this, with no practical application that an employer is willing to pay extra for.
Some employers will pay for an employee's college degree or certification training in order to groom a skilled worker. My employer has paid for programming training for me, and I've heard that big finance firms will pay for an employee's accounting degree, especially now that good accountants are all retiring with nobody to replace them.
@@isaacchapman7628 yeah I also dislike the mentality of "my degree will take care of everything" though I am also taking uni courses for computer science and I'm also nearly finished with my apprenticeship, and was planning to move to the US where graduates of my course are payed extremely well, but I've also been hearing about the numerous layoffs going on and about the shrinking middle-class and was wondering if it's worthwhile moving to the US. I'd be very thankful if you'd give some input on the matter, as you are an American and taking CS courses
@@user-br3bo7wo3m First off, I'm not taking CS, I've just taken some PLC programming classes so I can't speak on CS and IT work in the US. I do have a few friends who work in programming. It seems simultaneously oversaturated and starved for workers. There are a lot of people, especially zoomers, who thought that learning a little bit of programming would get them a $300k salary, so they flooded into basic Python boot camps. Programming jobs seem to eat programmers and spit them out very quickly, and they're quickly replaced by a new college/boot camp graduate. If you've got years of experience, you can stick around in a company long enough to get promoted to a project lead. But raises aren't that common, so the best way to make money as a programmer is to work for a company for 9 months, then apply to a dozen other companies and ask for a 20% pay increase. Repeat this every year and eventually you're making a LOT of money. But you're eternally stressed that some superior who knows nothing about what you do is going to decide that they don't need you. You could get laid off because your company wants a fresh college graduate to do your job for half the salary. That stress kills.
Where I am from. I work as a garbage truck driver. Always embarrassed so say that my job is dealing with trash when I socialize with people. I work 12 hours a day Monday - Friday and 8 hours on Saturdays. I can easily clear out $2,400 dollars each week or $115,000 after tax. Good income but long hours. No matter what I enjoy working.
What most people dont understand is that at the end of the day, its not about HOW much money you make, its about what you're DOING with your money. Remember, whether you make $50k a year or $200k a year, WHERE you put your money every paycheck is most important. Doctors go broke, engineers live paycheck to paycheck, yet there are some delivery drivers and servers investing 50% of their paycheck and are doing better financially. It's not about your degree, it comes down to financial literacy.
Uh what doctors are broke?? Where do you live? Because basic financial literacy should tell you the more income someone has the higher chance (and the higher amount) they typically invest
I'm going to community college to save my butt from debt.
I’m doing the same right now
If it ca get you a decent paying job, then community college it's a good investment 👍
Same
I can't even afford to have debt, my family is poor as hell lol
I just finished high school. I've chosen to forgo college because of what you described in the video (along with personal reasons) and I am now applying for apprenticeships.
Used to be a pizza delivery driver but wanted to buy a house and drive more. Got into truck driving and I love it and make almost triple what I used to!
what type of truck driving and would u recommend it ?
@@adheesive8093 I do 5 day OTR, driving Monday-Friday on the east coast. My true passion is writing, and using speech to text so I can do that more than ever and with less distraction. recommend the job if you are OK with a little bit of isolation, which I like
That's great! Happy to hear that.
@@adheesive8093Go to trucking school and get your CDL class A, get your experience for at least a year and you can make 6 figures a year after getting your one year of experience. CDL class A gets you the most pay. If you add hazmat and other endorsements like doubles and triples that's even more pay.
I've been thinking about getting a CDL license. I want to know about the trade.
I went to a trade school for plumbing and solar and I'm unable to get hired anywhere. Been working as a dishwasher the past couple years. I recently applied to another dishwasher position somewhere else and it was perfect. The setup was what I was used to. I lived down the street. It payed more. I got rejected.
Bruh I can't even get a dishwasher job. I'm stuck at my current one making just barely over minimum wage. Every other job in my area requires some type of advanced degree but everyone who applies that have it get rejected anyway.
It's hopeless.
What state do you live in? Just curious. I keep hearing people CANT get hired anywhere, but where I live (California) those jobs seem to always be open to new people even young 18 year olds.
wtf ???? that’s on you, your doing something wrong
@@rookinrookmaybe it’s a supply and demand kinda thing? Certain fields might be over saturated with ppl that are qualified in certain states
Im glad i went into blue collar, but damn my body hurts so bad and im 21. Idk how im gonna do this another 40 years AT LEAST
I heard some people in blue collar try to retire early while their bodies are still relatively healthy. Some someone commented that. So you can try and retire early too
Retire early @@axolotltheoriesLMAOOOO not in this economy
Its estimated i'll be able to retire at 54 in my electrician local so its possible due to my pension fund@@jordeahgrosko
What type of job
M@@JesManVP mechanic
We oversaturated the market for college grads and now no one is fixing the toilets. Getting a repair around here is insane because all the contractors are booked till the next decade. Just not enough to keep up with the demand. When demand outstrips supply, there is opportunity.
Trades pay out better with less debt, Just graduated from a duel enrollment program with high school, and have secured a $25 an hour 40 hour work week job as an industrial hvac technician.
Simple: there are NO JOBS !!!
Job search right now is so hard
Your not looking, there are tons of jobs, the medical field is always hiring…
I wish there was no jobs, I need that job report to be low as fuck so the stocks can go to the moon. WE NEED UNEMPLOYMENT
24 year old with a BFA, out of college I was able to secure a job in the entertainment industry, but there’s been an extreme recession and I’ve now had to work a retail job since my contract ended. It’s been 2 years and despite 200+ job applications and outreach emails sent i’ve only received ghosting or rejection letters. I’m very determined to continue on my career but it’s been difficult
Hang in there girl, you will get the job you want soon. But honestly 200+ job applications in this day and age isn't a lot. You should create a generic resume and just send it all out every time you see a job in your field.
My co-op told us, this is a few years ago, that as long as you have 60% of requirement you can apply. Sometimes they listed high qualifications and hire workers without half the requirements.
They actually also told us to tailor the resume. And guess what? The people in class who didn't tailor all got offers first, the people who took the time to tailor the resumes don't get hear backs mostly. Because they only read the first few resumes. Once they get enough potential candidates, you really have to wow them to be added to the list, if you apply later.
Just shoot it out. Like within 10 minutes of the job being posted. Some people even put out 1500 resumes and got 1 reply...
It's a tough time right now.
I’m really sorry. I was in the exact same situation as you, but I’m assuming a few years later.
Right out of covid, the jobs dried up, AI took the rest… honestly I left for the business world and never looked back.
I’ve been working in my field for 2 years now after graduation 3 years ago and have really been wanting to switch to truck driving. I don’t like interacting with people much. It’s exhausting hearing about peoples problems all day
Bro my parents will literally cut me out of the will and trust fund if I don’t go to College 😂
Basically why I went for something that just interests me. I got myself a comp sci degree since thats the direction this world is heading in.
I'm admittedly a bit rusty right now on stuff like C# (i did keep my textbooks though in case I need to refresh my knowledge), but the SEO skills I picked up have been handy for making CZcams videos.
@@four-en-teeI’ve been researching computer science, what job are you pursuing? I’ve been looking at graphics programmers and heard that it’s really hard but pays well, there’s also the question of ai taking the computer science jobs
As a trucker I make more money than the average American and the training was only a few weeks. And I don't pay for house bills or gas ext..
Trucker of 4 years here.
Initial training is only a few weeks, but no company wants to take a brand new driver. The only ones that will are mega carriers or beer delivery, and both suck.
@@NotUp2Much my first trucking job I was making about 80k. And most of the mega carriers pay about 50-60k which is still average or above.
Making this comment so people know of another option if your younger. So I work at Costco (Tire Shop) the best place I ever worked hands down. I graduated college but yes I agree should have done trade. But honestly people could start Costco at 18 and the same in 4 years (because raises are guaranteed) as someone getting a base salary of 50 k (which is common for stem majors where I am from) with no debt. A person could work there as a cashier and max out at 29.50a hour with bonuses in like 7 ish years. And they let people climb the ladder and prefer to give promotions from within and managers can get 6 figs but supervisors is usually like 31.50 a hour . It is worth it if your younger because they only offer full time if you pass 90 days probation of seeing how hard you work. Also if your a younger person the reason people prefer high paying hourly jobs over salary is so they don’t have to still do work even after they leave the workplace. Many times salaries are excuses to work people well beyond 40 hours a week.
Also if you do decide to go to college while working at Costco they do internships for accounting and IT. And also the departments that pay the most for people with no degree is Optical and Hearing Aid (35 per hour which is 70k). You would get need to get certified for those spots which Costco offers the education for the certificates which usually takes about a year.
That's amazing. There are great career opportunities at Costco. It's a good alternative for people who aren't sure what they want to do. 👍
Bro you’re buggin
Get at least an associates from a community College. You will look like a better candidate if you ever apply for a job that says something like "This position requires an associates and two years of relevant experience or an equivalent number of years of experience." Meaning the person with an associates and 2 years experience probably has an edge of the guy who had 4 years of experience but no degree.
You can get "relevant experience" doing basic bitch jobs like being a receptionist, admin assistant or something if you can track a position down that needs only a high-school diploma. Basically just try to land a job like that while you take classes.
I'm not saying it's easy but you can be 20-21 with an associates and a couple years of experience under your belt and actually have a solid number of opportunities available to you that the people who didn't go to college at all either won't have or are at least less likely to have.
the only associate degrees that are worth something are vocational degrees in healthcare, biotech, and the trades. all other associate degrees - both in STEM and liberal arts - are meaningless to employers. in this economy, it's about who you know, not what you know.
Gen z is not going for trades and I’m a foreman.
I agree with you on that one I’m 25 years old making me Gen Z I’m a third year plumbing apprentice but I haven’t seen a whole lot of people. My age were younger doing this.
Gen Z are being more open about a career in trades. But I guess still not enough are going in.
@@coperpot100 Judging by the comments I think most people think trades is too hard on the body and they're probably right. Which means the people who are in trades get higher pay, as they deserve. It's hard honest work.
@@axolotltheories that’s a true statement
And like always the issue was government throwing money at everything
'00 here, Scotland. Didn't go to uni due to lack of supporting grades, was employed on and off 5 years until i stumbled arse first into my current job scrapping e-waste and now refurbing old pcs for wholesale. Heavy lifting involved but its a satisfying job with good pay. Certainly beats taking verbal abuse from entitled customers at a corner shop 👍
If I would’ve started all over again, I would have skipped college. I’m in IT and certifications are EVERYTHING.
I didn't go to college, but I went to TAFE instead (the Aussie version of America's Trade School). I could tell from a mile away that college was not a good idea, although I wish I had aimed for a trade as an Electrician or Plumber instead.
I'm sure posting meltdowns online for the world to see is exactly what HR is looking for in a new hire
I think most of the people doing that are hoping to segue into an influencer career. And some are actually successful at it
Personally wanted to go to college to become a radiologist but during my senior summer I worked in concrete for a few months and I love it and and rethinking my college path
I don’t know what to do, I’m only 2 years away from graduating highschool and I don’t know what to do, I don’t know how taxes, laws, insurance, investing, jobs, degrees, or all of the important things adults know. I don’t know why I’m expected to do so much yet not knowing how to do anything, I’m only going in trade because I like welding and other trades because I respect them, my stepdad is a electrician and comes home dirty or exhausted yet he still works because he has too. I respect him and everyone who works in the trade because it’s physically challenging, yet it’s all I can do because I don’t know anything else, I don’t know how to be a doctor, lawyer, surgeon, or anything else. I actually have interests in Astrology and the fire department but I’m not sure how to find or apply for it, I’m lazy and still trying to figure out as much as I can before I graduate in 2026. I don’t know why school doesn’t teach me these things but have the time to teach me fucking math equations I have little to no car win the world for, I just wanna make my family proud and make my mark on the world. I love helping people and trades and the fire department helps people and I love helping people because it makes me feel better, but I don’t know how to even get a schedule going, I literally struggle to even take a shower everyday and it seems like the world is against me. If anyone has any advice for being a fireman or blue collar worker pls let me know I want to be successful and have knowledge before I’m thrown into this hellish world of greed and corruption.
I recommend not going to college right away. I would encourage people to work the world maybe get a trade first then see what you want to be. There are so many options that are not talked about
Agree. Not everyone should go get a college degree. Some people will do better in trades
I always told myself why would I be in debt when I can work on my raise and promotions in the trades? I would have over 100k more money than someone going to college for 4 years and they would be in debt?
Man, to say I'm fucked would be an understatement. I used to work with my stepfather in some electrical jobs he had during the summers since I was 14 and a year after i graduated. I would get yelled at, belittled, and stressed out to the max. I wouldn't have mind if he paid me, but he would barely pay me for working. I would say I earn now as a waiter than with my stepfather. All of that abuse and torment gave me PTSD. I tried going back but I just felt on edge and just couldn't do any work. So trade work is off the table for me. So then what? College isn't just worth it anymore. I just don't know what to do. Sucks that the things i love doing, which is art and music, are literally oversaturated, worst paying, and have the threat of being replaced by AI looming over it. I really don't want to be stuck doing a minimum wage job for the rest of my life but I really really don't know what to do or where to go.
Wait a minute lol.
College did not become more expensive cause of the Kent State shootings. I grew up 45 minutes from Kent and never heard this before.
College became more expensive due to both state and federal governments reducing their education budgets for higher education. Someone had to replace that revenue and easiest target was the student.
On top of that over the last 20 years or so colleges have been turning their campuses into small resorts.
If you go to a campus primarily built before 1990. You will see that their dorms are not fancy at all, the cafeterias offer basic cuisine and no fancy dining tables.
The dorms usually were not air conditioned. Also we’re not fancy. They were cinder block walls with a bunk and 2 desks.
Yes college has got more expensive. However itt is not because of Kent.
What made school more expensive is that your parents and grandparents voted for politicians who axed education budgets to pay for other things. That along with todays student demand for a resort like campus have increased the cost.
If millions more students get loans for 10,000s dollars, tuition, fees, rents, and books naturally inflate.
The government guaranteed student loans and made them non-dischargeable through bankruptcy. And the universities being the greedy bastards they are dramatically increased their prices as a result. If the student debt crisis is to be resolved the government needs to forgive all the student loans as well as taking away the loan guarantee at the same time. Something that will never happen. But if the politicians are actually serious about solving the issue that is what will need to be done.
I knew I was fuckin smart for not going that route, I am 17 still in school I will continue to go for my dreams without hesitation and I will get my diploma too no college tho, moms pissed.
I failed my last year of school and have rebuilt my foxbody, and i am waiting to get my 2ed call telling me when I can come and work at the shop, i refuse to follow the social norms
There are a ton of kids in my class who say they’ll just “go to trade school” as if it’s the easy route.
Do they realize that trades… take work? Any job does.
Trades require a lot of skill, it’s both physical and mental work. I only have very limited knowledge on this stuff, I mean my expertise is building bird houses at Home Depot when I was seven, but even I can see that.
I hope trade jobs will get more respect in the coming years. Considering how there is less knowledge overall of how everyday things work, I do think we will see that change as they will become more needed.
Trades are just fine unless you can actually tie your own shoes. I took a math test for an electrician apprenticeship, got 100%, and they interrogated me for 30 minutes to see how I cheated, then they fired me. Basically, you'll never find an electrician who got a perfect score. You'll only find a bunch of dumbasses who couldn't ace the test if their lives depended on it.
Wow that's terrible. And funny lol 😅. I guess they never had a 100% test score before😂. I hope you found another job. Get a few questions wrong on purpose next time.
@axolotltheories What's even better was I did all the questions in my head, so I didn't write down my work on the test. That's probably the part that got me canned. 🤣
@@dave23024UK or USA?
@@dave23024 Oh maybe that's why. They think you copied someone's answer because you don't show your work. I hate having to show all the steps when I was doing math in school. It's annoying
@@axolotltheories exactly, what difference does it make where we got the math answer (especially if it’s correct)? Point is, we got the right answer. Math was my “Vietnam”. I really hate school.
I completely agree with a trade school route... I made the mistake of going to college and getting a bachelors and masters, only to be offered customer service jobs at most, ended up working at the USPS. It took a coding bootcamp to get into my current field. Now when people discuss planning, I like to put a bootcamp option if they want an option for coding / analytics field without the huge debt. It gives the highest flexibility, at worst, you decide that you hate coding and have around 10K in debt (due to breaking the contract), or you have base skills without pay (if you could not find a job in a time period), or you get the job with 10K debt to pay off. Trade jobs are also fantastic, these are usually about hands on and gives great potential too. I do like college, but I think it should be more strategic based on your field...
Last i heard the trades was a dying industry. No one wants to break their back, risk their life/health for better than average pay that still isnt even middle class. Id say gen z is flocking to self employment in the arts if they arent trapped in retail, fast food or gig work
I did 7 years in the military got the benefits…got my CDL when I got out…I started school recently and looking to graduate within the next 2 years
What major?
Million come to US and big tech companies try to hire people from other countries. We now had self checkout line, Ai, cheaper labor ECT.. Companies raise food prices.
Since trade school recruiters are desperately looking for people to fill blue-collar positions, I'd say besides trying to court High School students, they can also reach to the recent college grads who can't find a job yet. While some definitely went in as a way to waste time and party, there's many more who genuinely went because they were told the lie by HS counselors that college was the only way. They went, did their best in their studies, even doing extracurriculars and learning on the side. But now that the market is saturated because everyone else got a degree, the unlucky majority can't find work and now are probably deep in debt. Without being too judgemental, trade recruiters can lend a hand and give them the opportunity to work trade, if they're willing to put in the work, that is. While they won't earn as much because they'll still have to pay off their loans, they'll at least finally earn something and build up their career. And unlike high school Students, where they have to wait until they graduate, recent college grads can start right away since well, they aren't working yet...
26 in December here, I make nearly 80k a year and I'm on year 3 of my career. I'm a motor coach operator. I'm one of the main guys in my company. My job consists of me taking people on tours to some of the most amazing places as well as meeting some of the most amazing people. I've gotten the amazing opportunity to be the team driver for FIFA teams for a whole week, I've driven around Patti labelle, mayweather, as well as a few others that I'm not allowed to name. The only debt I'm in is the debt I put myself in when I chose to move out of my parents house at the age of 23 add into my own ranch. I now live comfortably alone at the age of 25, I got 26,000 in debt but that's only for my moving expenses mixed with some irresponsibility on my side. College has turned into a total scam. A lot of High School coaches that use my company further Transportation request me by name because I don't spout the regular College BS. It's important to let the younger generation know that college is not the guaranteed golden ticket golden ticket it once was
What city do u do this for, bc I've only seen this in europe
@cameronss I'm out of Texas, It's a super popular industry here but the east side of the country has them scattered all over, what state do you live in?
its not about the degree, its about staying above your competition and doing more than your competition.
Listen up 🎉 you have to start somewhere. You need to sacrifice a year of getting paid not your worth for the experience. Once you are in a company and form relationships you can get the job you want.
Gez Z Electrician (almost) from Poland here. This summer holiday I decided to go find a job to earn some money to buy a car, found production plant that makes electrical switchboards. Didn't even call them or email them just went there and talked a bit with the owner there, said that I don't have experiance in the field and that I that I will graduate trade high school in one year. Still got hired for 25 Polish złoty per hour which aint bad pay considering I live in poorest region of my country and didn't graduate high school yet. Confidence is all it takes.
I just wanna be able to build the cool shit i come up with in my head, currently pursuing a mechanical engineering degree no matter how long it it takes me to get there just gotta keep pursuing my own dream. Be smart with your money and your life decisions and life should be successful no matter what
I’m glad I didn’t choose a trade I went for engineering which is one of the only majors that are only required by college ,trades are good if you are trying to be a liberal arts major or not want anything to do with being a lawyer or even doctor ,I’m transferring to cal poly or sdsu or even Pomona cal poly
I got into Trade when I was 45 and i never worked for anybody, i earn a decent living and that too in a timid and small economy in Canada. People in trades complaining don't know how to use their skills for themselves. Business skills are also, important to succeed.
as a CNC machiner, its good that the trades are getting attention
Trade jobs will vastly be eliminated as well… they are already building 3D printer housing. Thats lots of framers out of jobs
Look, at 21 years old, I have started working on my own as an electrician because in Spain, they don’t hire young people for a decent job that at least allows you to survive. And it should be said that there is a HUGE difference between Millennials and Boomers and Gen Z. I've realized that the younger ones, maybe because we are naive, only want a job to feel part of society, but we don't want to be exploited for money we can't live on, something that the older generations find 'normal'. Now that I'm on my own, all the work I have now comes from other electricians in the area who simply don't want to do their job 'for so little money'. We're talking about simple jobs that basically amount to easy money, but apparently, it's not enough money for others to bother with, which makes me think I now understand this rejection of younger people by these generations: 'not sharing a business culture'. If that means not enjoying scamming customers to make as much money as possible, smiling at them only to stab them in the back later, I like to be transparent with people. People appreciate it, but for some reason, the competition sees it as a threat, which really makes me see that the world today is the way it is because of Boomers and Millennials. Yes, the same ones who blame us for the problems they caused, the same ones who accuse us of not wanting to work despite us begging for it. It’s that simple: THE OLDER GENERATIONS DON'T WANT THE YOUNG TO WORK BECAUSE WE ARE A THREAT TO THEM.
HVAC installer in the South. First year installer, $80k+. That’s decent.
Electrician here to remind folks that college degrees are still important. I agree with those forgoing degrees that contribute little to nothing but understand that this will have a ripple effect. Medical school and law school for example are very expensive and I’m sure Gen Zers are turning those away too. We may gain some phenomenal tradesmen and women but we will lose some scientists, doctors, and lawyers in that trade.
Look up what a brain drain is and what that can do to a society.
if there is one thing the companies will have to do for their AI Bots, it is to hire people to fix them. Those machines aren't fixing themselves especially if the bots have programing errors
Business and marketing : She’s been applying for several weeks . It may take months
Take another paid or unpaid internship leading to a job , and network and then network
Hang in there
Wonder why they want a good life instead of an boring job
First i have people telling me that i should go to college and now hearing that college is not worth it. I've just finished sophomore year in high school and i don't know what to do
Go to community college and study nursing or join the army. Avoid for-profit schools and avoid university. Find a temp agency who will network you towards jobs in construction, but you need to find the right agency some like Express are plain bad. Lie on your resume but make it believable. Only list companies that have gone out of business recently in your area because HR can't check a dead company. Do not drop out of school unless you can get your parents to pay for a GED, instead ditch classes and play hooky on certain school days to think about what form of self-employment / career you want.
college is fine but you need to be very deliberate with your choice. I entered the workforce for a few years to ensure i actually had some kind of experience in a few fields before i made the commitment to college and it was the best choice i ever made.
As a tradesman, I’m happy with where I am right now. Granted I’ve only got >2 months under my belt, I’m happy I got my opportunity!
My step dad worked in construction for 22 years. Now he’s working at a winery. Yes it was taking a toll on him
I paid over 2000$ on the first month with financial aid just to be taught a hands on job online by a teacher who had too many students to properly teach all of them. Got a partial refund and left a month in, the course was to become a mechanic. I rebuilt an engine myself a year later and still work on my own vehicles and I didnt waste money on that college for the piece of paper.
I would have gone into trades if I were in community college instead of going for 4 yr degree.
The worst is when people don’t work hard enough in college or don’t do a good job networking and then act like they were scammed. College will make you rich if you put in the time and effort, if not then you’re throwing money down the drain.
ya that is what stoopid say
Depends on the degree. And you're right, sometimes even without the right degree you can still be successful if you network. You can prepare for a computer programmer job even without a computer sciences degree. Use college as a way to network with people in the industry and get them to refer you a job before you graduate 👍
I did that and now I’m facing the consequences of my dumb decisions.
@@lilithrealm I mean it’s never too late to be successful assuming you’re under the age of 50
The idea of networking i feel is in itself a confusing one, like i get that its necessary to get through the system, but the system wishing for fairness and equal chances for everyone relies on networking with people in higher position, which sometime you'll only get by being lucky and making a good first impression.
Our system is failing so hard that we need to resort to bias in order to get by? because thats what networking creates, bias.
Its a bit sad isnt it.
Then again i shouldnt complain i want to become a teacher in France, its the college equivalent of the minimal wage job, theres always a need for more, but its because no one wants to do such a shite job thats been mistreated by everyone including the one paying them for over 2/3 decades
Yeah, I saw my parents and other adults around me struggle with student loans and minimum wage, as well as going to college for something and ending up doing something completely different, so I chose to be a commercial electrician. It’s really gratifying, really. I love my job because of all the cool stuff I get to do and I feel like I’m doing good for society by building businesses. Bending big conduit is especially fun, since it’s like doing a complicated puzzle with a lot of math and precise measurements involved. Only issue is how much I hurt every day
Got lucky and found a job for a local business and he is paying me 20 dollars an hour. I have worked for him for two years and have over 100,000 dollars because my parents let me live with them out of high school. I have no plans to to college and my plan is to buy a house fully with the money I have saved and not pay money to the bank for loans.
20 yo in a year 1 union electrical apprenticeship. I make 23$ an hour plus healthcare and in 4 years i'll make 45$ an hour for becoming a journeyman. Wear kneepads and wear gloves and most of the activity will be beneficial to your health.
What state do you live in?
I'm starting this year in texas a journeyman here makes 40 an hour I'm also in a union how hard is the work
I work in fire alarm, we just run the cable into the conduit electricians run, usually at the ends of projects when the a/c is in. Requires a lot of know how for the fire alarm codes and problem solving to get the system to work with a touch of programming, but all in all I consider it the easiest blue collar job I've seen. Pay is pretty close to electricians, but you are fairly limited to working in the big cities.
Lots of my family members work for IBM so I have family connections in computers 💻
Oh really. Where? In Mexico?
@@jacqueslee2592 I own 2 laptops, 2 iPads & 1 iPhone I get Apple products they are best technology in the world. Proud fan of technology 💻 📱
@@jacqueslee2592 do you do realize Mexico City is a rich city
@@jacqueslee2592 you do realize not all Mexicans are poor many them have natural talent for doing things
@@marioantoniocrespoMexican92 I just asked if in Mexico. The reason I asked because I remember Mexico manufactured for IBM and did not know they still had headquarters over there.
“im going to become an underwater welder/sat diver/any non-recreational diving work” ☝️🤓
Gen Z here... I'm a blue collar worker as a semi truck driver/supervisor and I made 80,000 in my first year. I started working in construction and was a dean's list student in high school during my internship. No gen z people are wanting to work, which is from no interest or pure laziness. get into trades and make that money like I did. I enjoy making this money and have job security. I had my own house when I was 18 and no debt. College only puts you in debt and its hard if you can't find a job after thousands of money is wasting away in a field with a small job market. trades never go away such being a plumber, carpenter, concrete worker, truck driver, heavy equipment operator, pipe fitter, Hvac technician, barber, cook, electrician, Beautician, mechanic, iron worker, fabricator, aviation techs and etc.
That’s because gen z is not smart with their money. You can make a lot of money but it will make no difference if you spend a lot of that money
There's some truth to that. But at the same time, many are working in low wage jobs that they get out of college. Some blue collar jobs pay more than white collar jobs that requires a 4 years degree and 40k loan
it's not just a gen z thing. employers - esp. in the retail/service industry - have become way too risk-averse in hiring, like they're overcorrecting for the Great Resignation.
@@paullopez2021 I feel like some of them don't hire fast because it makes their job look redundant so they go through lots of unnecessary steps so prove they are needed for the job. They can't just fill the role 2 days in the search and then hope for a raise.
The trades are NOT the answer. You will NEVER enjoy life under capitalism.
okay buddy stay mentally stunted
Now that lower waged manufacturing countries have better economies, the western world, especially USA has to get back to manufacturing.
There's actually a shortage of blue collar workers especially in construction. Many of them are retiring and not enough people are replacing those who are retiring soon in the next 5-10 years
There's a reason for that construction treats its workers horribly. Both mentally and physically.
That would be a huge mistake, the USA chose those back in the time "poor uncivilized" countries due to the way cheaper labour costs, naturally when the profits hit in US dollars where local money is basically nothing against it, those economies started to flourish, definitely not what would happen in the USA with dollar-dollar operations.
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This is the mistake people my age made, and i knew this a very long time ago: everybody around me is living on autopilot and they think the future is guaranteed.
I've studied economy and political history before i dropped out during covid, because i realized this world has changed, my generation is on tik tok making a mockery of itself, the older generations have a lock on white collar jobs, so i have to work, make some experience, then i can go to college, become hvac certified and get a real job.
Also women in the beginning of this video will complain about this hiring problem they have, but an hour later will steal from wal mart "because wal mart won't care" or complain about how expensive everything is.
Databases exist, and the cameras can recognise a lot more about you than just your face now! Just because you have a short-term memory doesn't mean everything else does!
My conspiracy theory: every single person complaining about employment has committed petty theft for whatever reason too many times, and you're all on a suspect list, that HR has legal access to, yes every HR. And with that information they can go, "mmmm no work for you, back to the street."
I used to work in the construction it’s the most overhyped industry to be in paying to travel jobsite to jobsite and housing for work and work isn’t always consistent and not knowing when your working next I’m currently in school and switching over to diesel mechanic cuz there’s always work
Look at China where Job market for graduates is so bad you end up with PhD doing food delivery. In this day and age a degree has become so common that it has become just a mean of using that reason to raise competition and keep salary low.
Burh, why does everything have to do with China LOL? 99.99% of us don't even live there. Why do we care?
Useless degrees- become a plumber
Plumbers actually earn pretty decent wage
Useless degrees are English or psychology
@@ffffffff3883it’s not useless, if your teacher and if many people have mental health problems
That’s trade thou
I think colleges should be REQUIRED to show the history of their job placement for ALL their major degrees for the past decade or so -- to EVERYONE who applies. (If they don't, they don't get ANY federal government money of any kind, IMO).
At least that way students would have more data to look at. No guarantees, but an indication of job trends per degree, potential success, etc.
Given what's going on, if you're a self starter, the trades likely make more sense if you're willing to do physical work. Also, one could always get some courses in accounting, etc. if one wants to form one's own small company for their trade skill, after apprenticing, vs. getting a full, expensive, time consuming 4 year degree.
I'm a boomer. I don't think this is the students' fault. However, younger generations assuming they're the only ones who experience tough times are completely delusional. Each generation had their issues. I feared getting killed in Vietnam while growing up, for example.
Debt is why you look at your financial aid offers and diversify your college list. I understand the outside problems such as finding a job being difficult, but you could go to a local school for 5k a year instead of harvard for 80k in debt
I new college was a scam early. So i got into the trades, work maintenance, and make more than half adults do a 19. Paid of motorcycles and car. A large downpayment on a house, and a good 401k
It's interesting that how exact opposite is happening in Korea. Here people aren't looking for blue collar jobs, while it's been a while after people start to state that going trade school might be much better than college. Instead, people invest more and more years for "better" college, especially for medical school.