The reason our beloved Toyota/Lexus changed to these stupid cannisters is the same reason they deleted the ATF dipstick, it is obvious and the very first thing when I found that newer cars had taken the giant step BACKWARDS for these things. Toyota wants to discourage DIY mechanics from doing anything that would make their car last longer, and making oil change a PITA is a subtle move against people who maintain their own cars. But it is the true reason, since there is absolutely no good reason for them to design them the way they are doing it now.
"Toyota wants to discourage DIY mechanics from doing anything that would make their car last longer" Yeah, it's a vast conspiracy :roll eyes: It's different than a spin -on filter, but not a big deal if you make the effort to understand how it's supposed to be serviced. Separate element also let's you "pre-oil" the element a bit, to eliminate the first 1-2 seconds of engine operation with little or no oil pressure -- that's good for engine long life. I had an early 2000s BMW that had a similar replaceable element, and a separate housing. But, the BMW's housing was near the top of the engine and pointed "up" , so virtually no spillage. That was about the only thing I liked better on the BMW.
@@appalachie I seriously retract my entire comment. On a Lexus forum I read somebody in the industry, that said EPA was leaning on the car makers to make a transmission that can go at least 100K miles on its fluid, and this is why they pre-empted the whole C.f. and had their suppliers reformulate the ATF to make it go at least that long, and why they deliberately made it harder to change it, and to change engine oil as well. So it is not Toyota's fault it is EPA's, which is what counts to me at least.
@@appalachie I would probably have ZERO complaints if the setup was like your BMW. That being said, I am sure you know this, but for SOME reason (roll eyes) failed to mention it... you can A-L-S-O pre oil the cannister filters too.
There’s a reason why they switched to this style of oil filter canisters. Two they are very durable. My 2017 Highlander has over 350k miles and its never broken. I do oil changes every 5k miles. That over 70 times I have taken this thing apart. I just saw the end of this video. Yeah definitely do not buy this adapter.
I had Mercedes and Alfas with canister type filters. Never an issue. The real advantage was that one was not buying a filter with possible bad threads or defective internals. You could see the actual filter and confirm it was in good condition before install. The canister itself was well made and leak free. Prefer it to the spin on filters.
Indeed. If he didn't want to make a f'ing mess, FOLLOW THE PROPER PROCEDURE (drain the thing before removal) If Toyota is to get any scorn, it's for using g.. d... plastic cans. (I have yet to see one removed without damage. no surprise most dealerships always replace them.) Maybe the way overpriced adapter has anti-backflow, but the cheap screw on filter sure as h... doesn't. Also take note, the screw on filter shown is HALF the size of the factory canister filter, and hangs well below the factory canister.
They are very clean if drained before removing it from the vehicles from the bottom of it. I love the design because you can inspect filter media before and after oil change. Who knows what quality is in the oil filters contained in metal. Also clearance can be an issue using this adapter as well on the Sienna vehicles. Nice video.
Congratulations, I think you may be the first person that has given what is in my opinion a very good reason for the cartridge and that is being able to inspect the media after the oil change. I had not thought about that. That is a valuable insight to be able to take advantage of if you choose to do so. That being said, I do not. That it is worth it to me to sacrifice the option to be able to do that for the convenience of a canister filter. Also, in case you do not know or maybe we're just not willing to do so. You are able to cut open the canister filters to look at the media inside. Many CZcamsrs have done so. Of course it's not as easy as with the cartridge, but it is what it is.
@@jotu2121 ...but you missed my main point of seeing the filter media before installing is critical as well for cutting open a can filter makes it useless before hand. So the one extra step to drain the filter with the included plastic adapter is simple and prevents the mess that the few complain about. I can say a few times I saw filters that were cut open only to find that the filter media was torn or not even seamed together correctly causing oil to bypass the filter media completely. Finally to see the media used in the filament is also important for not all media is created equal as well. So that being said there is no problem with this proven design which has been around for over 11 years and counting without issues. The only thing I upgraded was my 2019 Toyota Sienna SE Premium plastic assembly with the metal version. As for this assembly adapter as stated before may hang down too far below the vehicle and be a hazard on some Toyota vehicles.
Never been a mess for me. That plastic tube that comes with the filter is to drain the cannister before you remove it. Alot of cars with cannister filters didn't have this feature. I don't find this design difficult at all.
He treated this just like a spin on filter. He didn't like that. So he converts it to....um a spin on oil filter. That seems dumb to me. I believe you also reduce capacity by at least a little bit. I like the option of removing the drain plug and putting in the plastic fitting. Some people change their oil more often than the filter, and this allows it to be done more thoroughly.
I’m 71 and just changed the oil on my Tundra myself for the first time. I always had the dealer do it. Their price rose to $98+ so I bought a 12 qt Mobil 1 oil in a box, a toyota filter and a crush washer and even after buying a MotiveX ($30) wrench to remove the filter housing I still saved a lot of money. And it will be much cheaper from here on out since I won’t be buying anything but the oil, filter and washer. Probably $50 total. As far as the mess…who cares? It’s not like I change the oil every week. I change it a 3k intervals. In my case that’s once a year as I use my truck mainly for towing our camper. At $200+ for this contraption I can stand a little oil running down my rubber gloved hand. 😊
Toyota's filter housing is one of the worst to remove. It usually takes an extreme amount of force to back these off due to the large o-ring. Glad this Baxter product exists, and great video!
MADE IN USA IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. MY CAMRY HAVE THIS PROBLEM NEVER GIVE BUSSINES TO TOYOTA. THRE MERCEDES I OWN AND OIL CHANGE WAS A BREEEZZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I totally agree with you about Toyota's terrible design. However, I have a few concerns for using the adapter: 1. Too pricey ($250 + tax for mine) 2. I have to downsize the capacity of the filter. 3. If I keep the same oil filter size, the filter bottom would be too close the ground and might hit bumps or objects on the ground.
@ron mcelroy And paying $250 to void your warranty. That stub spin on filter looks suspicious as well. Might be ok but rolling the dice on a $50K vehicle warranty is insane.
While I agree a spin on filter is much nicer, the filter you are using with the kit has what appears to be approximately 50% less filter media. While the 2.5 Toyota runs rather clean I’ll always prefer more filter capacity over convenience. Also with the adapter and the small filter the filter now hangs below the oil pan witch in your case has seen some abrasion already. So if that were to happen again you have now opened your oil system and if not caught in time will lead to total engine failure.
I PUT ONE ON MY GRANDAUGHTER'S TOYOTA SUV AND I LOVE IT. IT TAKES A SORT OF FLAT OIL FILTER FROM NAPA. SO FAR 4 CHANGES AND ABOUT ONE YEAR IT IS WORKING GRESAT! LOVE IT! EASY CLEAN CHANGES. WORTH THE MONEY
Jo Tu, your opening soliloquy SO poignantly captured the visceral angst and frustration I experienced when I tried to remove the filter housing on my 2012 Gen 3 Prius, after a Toyota dealer torqued it so tight that I broke a removal tool and was forced to abandon a filter change. Then I found your video and was inspired to buy a Baxter adapter. I ended up using an impact wrench (after buying another removal tool) to break loose the old filter housing-- which I gleefully threw in the trash with the removal tool still attached. The Baxter solution is great for the Prius because there's plenty of room for the unit, which lies horizontally; thus there are no ground clearance concerns. I also installed a ValvoMax drain valve. Oil changes are now so easy that I plan to do them myself every 5000 miles (rather than the Toyota specified 10,000). The more frequent filter change intervals (to my mind) alleviate concerns about the somewhat smaller filtration element.
Thank you for your well written and thought out comment... I really enjoyed it. Happy that things have worked out for you. I have a low-level caution that I later discovered about the Valvomax. After installing it, I developed a very, very, slow leak and was unsure of what was leaking... could be the oil pan or whatever. After diagnosis, I have come to the conclusion that the Valvomax was simply not tightened enough at installation (because the recommended Valvomax torque spec is to low) leading to a very slow leak that will build up oil somewhere (lowest point of engine under oil plug) over time. After considering many things, I came to the conclusion that, for my vehicle (and probably most, or all, others), that the Valvomax recommended torque of 15-18 Ftlbs is simply wrong and should be adjusted closer to factory torque specs >>> FOR YOUR SPECIFIC VEHICLE
Toyota recommended 10K oil change. Yeh follow that just like the lifetime ATF fluid. I’m sure you follow that. Cartridges are not that big of a deal- well unless you let some goober at the dealer ruin the experience for you
DUDE I LOVE YOU!!! I've been fighting with that DAMN cartridge filter for 5 FREAKIN years! I just changed the oil on the wife's 2016 Rav 4 for the last time,I'm getting one of these! Prior to the 2016 we had a 2012 but the wife was hit by a car full of teens. Anyway for some reason I did a search on YT to see if anyone made a conversion kit and I'll be danged there you are and this was TWO FREAKIN years ago I have no idea why I didn't think of this sooner. Anyway thank you for posting this you're a lifesaver!!
I’ve really come to love the Toyota design for a couple reasons. First, by allowing drainback you get a more complete oil change. Second, the vertical orientation of the filter means you don’t need drainback prevention. Third, the elements have no metal on them and thus the manufacturing process cannot cause small metal burrs to remain on the metal parts. (Spin on filters are notorious for generating debris when spun on). Fourth, the filters come with a drain provision in the cover- insert the plastic nipple, press open the drain check ball under the cover, and drain all the filter with no mess. Fifth, the lack of metal in the elements simplifies manufacturing and allows an equivalent quality filter media to be make a cheaper overall filter. I see a lot of advantages to the Toyota setup. But I’m biased because I’m an engineer that specializes in these kinds of things.
All great points, I would also say that as a consumer who tries to reduce wasted material whenever I can, it sure does feel better to toss a filter, rather than a spin on where you’re throwing away a filter, metal, silicon and whatever else it’s made of.
I went ahead and bought the Baxter Mod for my wife's 2022 Lexus and my son helped to install-Thank you for the note at about 7:25 on the video on the compression of the installation which helped a lot along with the tilt. Thanks again.
In my opinion, you didn't use enough curse words to accurately describe that cartridge filter design. Toyota even made it worse on the latest engines - on the Tacoma they put the oil filter on the bottom of the engine where you have to completely remove the skid plate. They could have easily put a door/plate on the skid plate below the filter, but noooo....
I change my Tacoma oil every 5k. I installed a Fumoto drain valve so I never have a mess. My filter cartridge, when done correctly, is a breeze. I have a plastic tube and bottle to pre-drain the cartridge. It is easy with the correct tools and no mess. No need to replac3 it.
I have 2 vehicles with the 2gr-fks engine with these canisters. Never had any problem with them myself, and haven't noticed more oil spill than I've had with a horizontal aluminum style. I've never used the bottom plug / plastic piece gizmo to drain the plastic piece either. Wear gloves, & take your time.
I maintain my own 2015 RX 350 and a 2019 RAV4; never have had a problem, but I use a torque wrench to reassemble. I don't relieve oil from the cartidge before removing the housing from it's base. Does the engine dsign in question really need backflow protection? Not so sure
As a mechanic myself, the catridge design is a pain in the ass. When I try to drain the oil from the filter, it spun the whole cartridge which I thought was kind of strange. The plastic cartridge does get stuck. The aluminum version is a lot better than the plastic. It does provide a little bit of heat dissapation and it won't strip on you. The aluminum version is my preferred way to go. The way how you explain and do things. I see that you change both oil and filter at every change. Nothing wrong with that. It just that engineers didn't need to design this. The engineers probably design this is to reduce metal filters going to waste and just burn the paper cartridge. It does saves them money but it wastes a little bit more of our time to do it. The aftermarket adapter for the oil filter can change the oil flow, pressure, and filtration. The oil capacity that a filter can hold are also a factor to engine life. The engineers design it for a reason they know the maximum and minimum of oil the will take when the oil bypass valve turns open. A good example be like hydraulic pressure. The flow rate is like 3 gpm and the pressure running through that be like 14 psi. I haven't check the link yet if it does provide those specs. It's a great idea but with some flaws just like car manufacturers.
I have a 2020 Toyota Tacoma with the cartridge filter if I go to the Baxter spin on filter adaptor will that modification void my warranty additionally, how do I know what new filter to buy to replace the only cartridge type? Thanks for the informative video JR
Toyota will probably discourage this (along with nearly any other ideas you might have), but I think "a way around it" would be to just do what you want and, if any issues, replace with old cartridge before attempting to claim warranty service. That being said, do what you are comfortable with doing. To be VERY clear... I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL MECHANIC.
How much longer is it hanging down with the adapter plus the spin on filter as apposed to stock? I like the concept, but it appears to be even or just a little longer than the skid plate? My concern is that road debris (or off-road debris) could puncture the spin on filter....
Seems due to the space inside the adapter and above the spin-on filter that will hold oil, this method will make even more of a mess than properly draining the cartridge filter prior to removal. I'd like to see how much oil still spills/drains out as you remove the spin-on filter.
If you understand how to use their cartridge oil filter system it's really easy and not messy at all plus it reduces unnecessary waste by eliminating the can. I do prefer the spin on filters but I don't mind Toyota's solution either. It's just a few extra steps.
Not really a mess, not really a pain in the neck. Cartridge style filters are vastly superior. Less waste, don't need to worry about filter design regarding drainback and bypass valves, and the filters are cheaper. And the icing on the cake: you can actually inspect your filter with ease. No oil filter cutting necessary. One of the best ways to assess the health of your engine.
Nice thorough explanation. I just did my 1st oil change on my 21 tacoma 4x4 sport.I drive very little being takes me almost a yr for a change.The oem version does suck.My previous 14 tacoma with the 4 cyldr had a spin on far easier.I will hold off on any change until my warranty is over.Cool tho
I don't understand the first part of your question so please restate it in a different way and more detailed. I think you could use whatever filter you can fit out there and feel comfortable using. You have to do your own research on the filter.
The inner valve on the new filter may not be compatible with car, so you may not be filtering anything, this os a bad idea, or maybe not, are you guys willing to take that chance?
You're still going to have the same oily mess when to remove your spin off filter because the oil isn't drained so all you really gained is a little convenience for added cost.
The spin on filter looks really small after the adapter. I was wondering if the surface area for the filtering materiel is less because of the adapter.
Pretty cool. I don't really find the stock one that much of a pain, but its definitely not the best. At least it doesn't try to drain all over the electrical connection on the steering rack like my Mustang does.
Wonder if there is a taller spin-on filter available, the one you used I know is not for 4runner, but i'd need a larger one for the 1grfe engine. more filter media. plenty of room for it under there.
Takes me less then 5min and IV never made a mess or had my hand covered in oil and yes they do have a back flow it's in the spring it's built differently and it's really easy to change no hassle at all I wouldn't mess with their engineering process usually Toyota and Lexus have it on lock and have very good quality I'm happy with the original cartridge style filter on my Toyota
If it were me, I would consider installing it and IF any warranty work has to be done, just switch it back to a factory filter BEFORE taking it to the dealer.
It wasn’t that long ago , maybe 15 years the oil filter on a Camry was on the top of the motor , no spills, spin on filter , worked great , then they moved it underneath, ridiculous
They must have had a lot of their better engineers retire during that period......and the new ones forgot the KISS ideology that Toyota was famous for.
I see how some people like the OEM cartridge’s for various legitimate reasons but I’m just used to spin on filters and you aren’t limited to just WIX, you can use other appropriate alternative filters.
A friend gave me a Baxter TS-101-BK that he took off his Tacoma before he traded it in for a new truck. At first I was skeptical because of the short oil filter in this video that I would need to keep the filter from scraping the ground on my 2016 Camry. Then, I did some research and found that the Mobil 1 filter (M1-102A) that my 2018 Tacoma uses and would fit my Camry is 3.375" tall and 3" diameter. The Wix filter 51335 is only 2.483" tall but is 3.67" in diameter. I physically compared the two. The Wix is much larger looking. I'm no math genius but I figure the media coverage of the two is about the same. I installed the adapter and the Wix filter last weekend. The filter hangs higher than the oil pan. Plus, since the spin on has a anti drain back valve, the VVTI doesn't make the annoying rattle on cold start up anymore. So far, I'm happy with the modification. Note: I've been told that Toyota has eliminated the cartridge filter and went back to the spin on.
I TOTALLY agree w/u on cartridge. I DO have a question, what filter does it take now. Do they vary w/other engines? If I had that, I'm a toyota filter user.
Call or investigate on the companies (Baxter Performance) website. Probably be pretty difficult to use a Toyota factory filter and at that point it would probably be pointless because technically you'd be off spec regardless.
Thank You; you instantly sold me on this; life just got a whole lot better; yes; if you own a Toyota with a cartridge filter you KNOW what i mean !!!! THANK YOU !!!!!!
@@jotu2121 I like the video very much, but I have a question. Now that you put on the conversion kit so you can use a spin on oil filter, what if you want to take your car to the dealership to have your oil changed, how would they know what Toyota spin on oil filter to use. I'm asking the question because sometimes I do change my own oil, and sometimes I just take it to the Toyota dealership.
@@kenyareed3051 You would most likely need to bring a filter with you and (also>> ALMOST CERTAINLY) coach (TALK TO) the specific technician changing your oil. My understanding is that the "oil change techs" are the absolute beginner (pre-mechanic / technician) positions at a dealership... so now you have been warned!
At 75yo I wanted to get my oil changed by the dealer or even Walmart. But how do I know they put a new filter in the car when they changed my oil? With a spin-on filter it's very easy to check this. So I'm going to put one of these cartridge conversions on my Carolla.
the big question i raise about this adapter is: WILL IT alter the distance or height of which the filter will stay in? ive been interested in wanting to add one of these on my 2011 Toyota sienna minivan, the reason i ask this if im driving down the road or highway and i run something over and hit it from below it could break the filter right off…
Specific filters vary based on your specific vehicle, which filter you want to use, and how much room you have to work with. In other words they are not "set in stone" but are of the users choice. That being said, the filter brand and part number recommended by Baxter Performance, for the 08 Avalon, is clearly visible near the end of the video.
I've done all of the maintenance on my mother's 2014 Camry since the dealership maintenance ended. I have never had any issues with the cover, torque it to 25 pounds, and use the drain function. But, I have been called out to help two friends/family with high mileage Corollas, that had been taking their cars to oil change places, and then decided to change the oil themselves. The covers were locked in place and started falling apart when trying to get them off with an adapter (of note, both were also missing the locking clips). These were also side mounted, so didn't have the drain option. Much chiseling and profanity ensued! So, I wouldn't get one of these adapters for my own Toyota, but I can definitely see the benefit for someone who is going to a quick change place, just be sure to let them know you have the adapter.
I was frustrated because the WIX filter Baxter said to use is impossible to find or very expensive. I ordered the universal Toyota fit 501-BK for a 2017 Camry. After trying a lot of different filters I discovered that a FRAM Tough Guard TG4386 series filter works well. It is the same filter that a 2007 Camry uses and I have used them on it for 15 years , 260K miles on the car.
Interesting. We just got a 2018 Toyota Highlander. I plan on doing the retrofit. Baxter Performance suggests Wix 51335. Found them on Amazon for $8.74 - is that the one you were looking for?
Thats what I did when replacing my spark plugs, inserted, went lefty loosie until I felt and heard the click, knowing I found the threads, no problem at all with cross threading.
Just finished changing the oil and filter on my 2017 Tacoma. It is a giant pain compared to my brothers 2005 Tacoma with the canister filter on top of the engine. Like other posters I agree it is all a ploy to get owners into the dealership for an oil change. Dealerships today make most of there money on servicing vehicles. Wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so expensive and I could trust they'd do the job properly.
I Installed 1 years ago on my 2011 highlander V6 part# TS -101-BK ….And my other 1 on my 4Runner 2021 TS-201-BK makes my oil changes way easier and faster less messy, I do my own oil services works perfectly fine for my vehicles.
As an express tech at Toyota. It’s really not that bad. Sometimes you’ll get one that’s a bit overtightened but overall they’re pretty painless once you get the hang of them. I’d still prefer they go back to spin on filters are I feel they provide better filtration
thanks for the video jotu , but wait a minute the horizontal plastic one has a drain . it is the 1/2 inch on the bottom. drains out most of the oil. but i agree ,its a pain somewhere. just what were they thinking.
oh Man, do I need that baby!! You are so right, what a royal pain in the brain to get that off. I just bought a 2012 Toyota Corolla S. The oil change went badly. That Oil cap was put on to tight and probably the oil ring was dry. It was welded on. All tabs broke off to no avail. Now I have new oil with old oil filter :( disgusted!! ---- I will order that product for sure. How I surfed into this can only be by the Grace of GOD!! thank you so much!!
Not a mess if you follow the instructions on the filter box. You can see if there is any debris in the filter without cutting it apart. I like this better than the cans. Easy peasy. No solution needed. About time! This is fixing a problem that doesn't exist.
Google baxter perormance products (they make and sell the adapter) and then call their customer support phone number. They can probably recommend a filter that will work for you.
The Toyota Tundra is the bane of the shop I work in. Not only do you have to deal with this ridiculous cartridge filter, but they usually have a heavy under engine shield that has to be removed to even access the filter. Basically it's a good oil change if the shield is missing from the truck. If I had any authority in the automotive world, this would be a mandatory refit and all cartridge oil filters would be recalled.
The reason why Toyota uses paper cartridge is paper filter is easier to do inspection when you removed it from filter housing, insp for metal or carbon residue and shavings, same as aircraft engine filters, VERY clever and nice! And you don't have to cut open the metal can to insp the filter! Although it makes bit mess, but for maintenance and inspection wise, I would say paper cartridge style is very good!
I just ordered one for my 2019 Toyota Sienna LE. The WIX 51335 oil filter height is only 2.5 inches due to the low clearance under the car. Is there any other oil filter I can use? I want to use the best oil filter. Thanks.
You can use any oil filter that will spin on and fit within your engine bay. If you need a specific filter recommendation, go to baxter performance website and call their customer support and ask them.
I agree the plastic ones suck cause they are very easy to overtighten and the next guy who tries to loosen it the plastic ears break. They do make a mess, but the metal ones dont break, and its nice being able to inspect the filter pleets during an oil change and not needing any extra cutting tools or time to look at it.
BMW and Mini has these, and they did it right (they're supposed to be facing up not down). They're cheaper since it's just the filter like the air filter not the whole air box too. you can still upgrade to a bigger filter from a BMW for a mini too.
That's a good move, I was seriously considering doing the same for my Lexus LS460. But I can't see how I would install it in stock location without it banging on the ground sometime, so that would mean a remote filter mount, which there is literally no room for in the engine compartment, and just added 2 more possible oil leak points anyway -
A solution to a problem that most of us didnt know was an issue. I never have made a mess removing the oil filter or "battled" with it in any way, shape or form.
I’ve been told installing this would change Oil pressure on the 3rd Gen Tacoma nor will it fit with the TRD Skidplate, can anyone shed some light on this?
If the room provides on some models you can interchange to a longer/higher capacity oil filter. Did that on 2008 Tacoma where the filter stands up from the valve cover area.
For anyone who has installed this on a Rav4 I’d like to know what spin on filter you used and how much length (ie how much closer to the ground) it added compared to stock cartridge.
When you buy the conversion piece it tells you which filters you ought to use with your engine...and yeah, ground clearance is a real concern! I'd be worried the filter sticks out too far and might actually smash the ground on bumps, which is the main reason I'm not installing one -
The reason our beloved Toyota/Lexus changed to these stupid cannisters is the same reason they deleted the ATF dipstick, it is obvious and the very first thing when I found that newer cars had taken the giant step BACKWARDS for these things. Toyota wants to discourage DIY mechanics from doing anything that would make their car last longer, and making oil change a PITA is a subtle move against people who maintain their own cars. But it is the true reason, since there is absolutely no good reason for them to design them the way they are doing it now.
SPOT-ON & EXACTLY what I tell anyone who will listen.
"Toyota wants to discourage DIY mechanics from doing anything that would make their car last longer"
Yeah, it's a vast conspiracy :roll eyes: It's different than a spin -on filter, but not a big deal if you make the effort to understand how it's supposed to be serviced.
Separate element also let's you "pre-oil" the element a bit, to eliminate the first 1-2 seconds of engine operation with little or no oil pressure -- that's good for engine long life.
I had an early 2000s BMW that had a similar replaceable element, and a separate housing. But, the BMW's housing was near the top of the engine and pointed "up" , so virtually no spillage. That was about the only thing I liked better on the BMW.
@@appalachie I seriously retract my entire comment. On a Lexus forum I read somebody in the industry, that said EPA was leaning on the car makers to make a transmission that can go at least 100K miles on its fluid, and this is why they pre-empted the whole C.f. and had their suppliers reformulate the ATF to make it go at least that long, and why they deliberately made it harder to change it, and to change engine oil as well. So it is not Toyota's fault it is EPA's, which is what counts to me at least.
@@appalachie I would probably have ZERO complaints if the setup was like your BMW. That being said, I am sure you know this, but for SOME reason (roll eyes) failed to mention it... you can A-L-S-O pre oil the cannister filters too.
There’s a reason why they switched to this style of oil filter canisters. Two they are very durable. My 2017 Highlander has over 350k miles and its never broken. I do oil changes every 5k miles. That over 70 times I have taken this thing apart.
I just saw the end of this video. Yeah definitely do not buy this adapter.
I had Mercedes and Alfas with canister type filters. Never an issue. The real advantage was that one was not buying a filter with possible bad threads or defective internals. You could see the actual filter and confirm it was in good condition before install. The canister itself was well made and leak free. Prefer it to the spin on filters.
Indeed. If he didn't want to make a f'ing mess, FOLLOW THE PROPER PROCEDURE (drain the thing before removal) If Toyota is to get any scorn, it's for using g.. d... plastic cans. (I have yet to see one removed without damage. no surprise most dealerships always replace them.) Maybe the way overpriced adapter has anti-backflow, but the cheap screw on filter sure as h... doesn't. Also take note, the screw on filter shown is HALF the size of the factory canister filter, and hangs well below the factory canister.
They are very clean if drained before removing it from the vehicles from the bottom of it. I love the design because you can inspect filter media before and after oil change. Who knows what quality is in the oil filters contained in metal. Also clearance can be an issue using this adapter as well on the Sienna vehicles. Nice video.
Congratulations, I think you may be the first person that has given what is in my opinion a very good reason for the cartridge and that is being able to inspect the media after the oil change. I had not thought about that. That is a valuable insight to be able to take advantage of if you choose to do so. That being said, I do not. That it is worth it to me to sacrifice the option to be able to do that for the convenience of a canister filter. Also, in case you do not know or maybe we're just not willing to do so. You are able to cut open the canister filters to look at the media inside. Many CZcamsrs have done so. Of course it's not as easy as with the cartridge, but it is what it is.
@@jotu2121 ...but you missed my main point of seeing the filter media before installing is critical as well for cutting open a can filter makes it useless before hand. So the one extra step to drain the filter with the included plastic adapter is simple and prevents the mess that the few complain about. I can say a few times I saw filters that were cut open only to find that the filter media was torn or not even seamed together correctly causing oil to bypass the filter media completely. Finally to see the media used in the filament is also important for not all media is created equal as well. So that being said there is no problem with this proven design which has been around for over 11 years and counting without issues. The only thing I upgraded was my 2019 Toyota Sienna SE Premium plastic assembly with the metal version. As for this assembly adapter as stated before may hang down too far below the vehicle and be a hazard on some Toyota vehicles.
@@CharlesBridgTec but the canister filter has no back pressure check valve
@@JayElement13 Sure does. The whole filter can canister core tube move which will bypass the filter if it were to clog.
I too like the fact I can look at the dirty filter to see if there are metal particles and such. I think the design works well.
For $250.00 I can live with the little mess stock oil cartridge. Wear gloves, get a big oil drain pan.
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That is true. 250 seems like a greedy cash grab for a precision engineering plastic cnc machine product
I don't like that itty bitty oil filter. 🤔
Yup.. I’d be a player at 70 bucks . Lol
If you’re DIY enough to be changing your own oil, the 20 seconds to fit the supplied drain plug every 6 months doesn’t seem to be a $270 effort.
Never been a mess for me. That plastic tube that comes with the filter is to drain the cannister before you remove it. Alot of cars with cannister filters didn't have this feature. I don't find this design difficult at all.
I laughed my ass off when this bone head took that filter bowl off before draining it
@@oveidasinclair982 I laughed mine off when he talked about no back flow prevention. Like the oil can defy gravity.
He treated this just like a spin on filter. He didn't like that. So he converts it to....um a spin on oil filter. That seems dumb to me. I believe you also reduce capacity by at least a little bit. I like the option of removing the drain plug and putting in the plastic fitting. Some people change their oil more often than the filter, and this allows it to be done more thoroughly.
Me neither... this thing is $300+++ No way
I have no problem with them, and I have them on my Tundra and Lexus.
I’m 71 and just changed the oil on my Tundra myself for the first time. I always had the dealer do it. Their price rose to $98+ so I bought a 12 qt Mobil 1 oil in a box, a toyota filter and a crush washer and even after buying a MotiveX ($30) wrench to remove the filter housing I still saved a lot of money. And it will be much cheaper from here on out since I won’t be buying anything but the oil, filter and washer. Probably $50 total. As far as the mess…who cares? It’s not like I change the oil every week. I change it a 3k intervals. In my case that’s once a year as I use my truck mainly for towing our camper. At $200+ for this contraption I can stand a little oil running down my rubber gloved hand. 😊
Toyota's filter housing is one of the worst to remove. It usually takes an extreme amount of force to back these off due to the large o-ring. Glad this Baxter product exists, and great video!
MADE IN USA IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. MY CAMRY HAVE THIS PROBLEM NEVER GIVE BUSSINES TO TOYOTA. THRE MERCEDES I OWN AND OIL CHANGE WAS A BREEEZZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I totally agree with you about Toyota's terrible design. However, I have a few concerns for using the adapter:
1. Too pricey ($250 + tax for mine)
2. I have to downsize the capacity of the filter.
3. If I keep the same oil filter size, the filter bottom would be too close the ground and might hit bumps or objects on the ground.
U can buy an oil filter housing for the same motor for the can style oil filter
May concern would be a voiding of any warranty claim by modifying the oil filtration designed by Toyota, flawed or not…
@ron mcelroy And paying $250 to void your warranty. That stub spin on filter looks suspicious as well. Might be ok but rolling the dice on a $50K vehicle warranty is insane.
250 dollars!!! No thanks
thats why he EMPHASIZED it is AMERICAN MADE lmao. American made = expensive :) you have to pay for it.
While I agree a spin on filter is much nicer, the filter you are using with the kit has what appears to be approximately 50% less filter media. While the 2.5 Toyota runs rather clean I’ll always prefer more filter capacity over convenience. Also with the adapter and the small filter the filter now hangs below the oil pan witch in your case has seen some abrasion already. So if that were to happen again you have now opened your oil system and if not caught in time will lead to total engine failure.
I PUT ONE ON MY GRANDAUGHTER'S TOYOTA SUV AND I LOVE IT. IT TAKES A SORT OF FLAT OIL FILTER FROM NAPA. SO FAR 4 CHANGES AND ABOUT ONE YEAR IT IS WORKING GRESAT! LOVE IT! EASY CLEAN CHANGES. WORTH THE MONEY
Jo Tu, your opening soliloquy SO poignantly captured the visceral angst and frustration I experienced when I tried to remove the filter housing on my 2012 Gen 3 Prius, after a Toyota dealer torqued it so tight that I broke a removal tool and was forced to abandon a filter change.
Then I found your video and was inspired to buy a Baxter adapter. I ended up using an impact wrench (after buying another removal tool) to break loose the old filter housing-- which I gleefully threw in the trash with the removal tool still attached.
The Baxter solution is great for the Prius because there's plenty of room for the unit, which lies horizontally; thus there are no ground clearance concerns. I also installed a ValvoMax drain valve. Oil changes are now so easy that I plan to do them myself every 5000 miles (rather than the Toyota specified 10,000). The more frequent filter change intervals (to my mind) alleviate concerns about the somewhat smaller filtration element.
Thank you for your well written and thought out comment... I really enjoyed it. Happy that things have worked out for you. I have a low-level caution that I later discovered about the Valvomax. After installing it, I developed a very, very, slow leak and was unsure of what was leaking... could be the oil pan or whatever. After diagnosis, I have come to the conclusion that the Valvomax was simply not tightened enough at installation (because the recommended Valvomax torque spec is to low) leading to a very slow leak that will build up oil somewhere (lowest point of engine under oil plug) over time. After considering many things, I came to the conclusion that, for my vehicle (and probably most, or all, others), that the Valvomax recommended torque of 15-18 Ftlbs is simply wrong and should be adjusted closer to factory torque specs >>> FOR YOUR SPECIFIC VEHICLE
Toyota recommended 10K oil change. Yeh follow that just like the lifetime ATF fluid. I’m sure you follow that. Cartridges are not that big of a deal- well unless you let some goober at the dealer ruin the experience for you
DUDE I LOVE YOU!!! I've been fighting with that DAMN cartridge filter for 5 FREAKIN years! I just changed the oil on the wife's 2016 Rav 4 for the last time,I'm getting one of these! Prior to the 2016 we had a 2012 but the wife was hit by a car full of teens. Anyway for some reason I did a search on YT to see if anyone made a conversion kit and I'll be danged there you are and this was TWO FREAKIN years ago I have no idea why I didn't think of this sooner. Anyway thank you for posting this you're a lifesaver!!
Your welcom & thnak YOU for the wonderful gratitude! :-)
I've owned
2010 Corolla,
2013 Camry,
now have a 2022 RAV4.
I'm happy to say that Toyota changed to a spin on filter for the RAV4. Hooray!
I’ve really come to love the Toyota design for a couple reasons. First, by allowing drainback you get a more complete oil change. Second, the vertical orientation of the filter means you don’t need drainback prevention. Third, the elements have no metal on them and thus the manufacturing process cannot cause small metal burrs to remain on the metal parts. (Spin on filters are notorious for generating debris when spun on). Fourth, the filters come with a drain provision in the cover- insert the plastic nipple, press open the drain check ball under the cover, and drain all the filter with no mess. Fifth, the lack of metal in the elements simplifies manufacturing and allows an equivalent quality filter media to be make a cheaper overall filter.
I see a lot of advantages to the Toyota setup. But I’m biased because I’m an engineer that specializes in these kinds of things.
Well spoken, as an aviation mechanic that now does auto work...I agree with your statement.
All great points, I would also say that as a consumer who tries to reduce wasted material whenever I can, it sure does feel better to toss a filter, rather than a spin on where you’re throwing away a filter, metal, silicon and whatever else it’s made of.
Engineer as well here, all valid points, but I'm also biased haha
Obviously you have not done many oil changes with this system. I bet you never had one of the plastic housings break either.
@@hillbillysportsman5818 mine are all metal. And I have 347k miles between two lexuses with them and do every oil change myself.
I went ahead and bought the Baxter Mod for my wife's 2022 Lexus and my son helped to install-Thank you for the note at about 7:25 on the video on the compression of the installation which helped a lot along with the tilt. Thanks again.
The pleasure is all mine. Glad I could help!
So Zama have you had any problems with oil pressure, leakage or (God forbid), engine noise?
In my opinion, you didn't use enough curse words to accurately describe that cartridge filter design. Toyota even made it worse on the latest engines - on the Tacoma they put the oil filter on the bottom of the engine where you have to completely remove the skid plate. They could have easily put a door/plate on the skid plate below the filter, but noooo....
Finally, a REMARKABLE PRODUCT MADE IN THE USA!!!!
Spin-On Oil Filters are by far, easier to remove/install and they ALL HAVE ANTI-DRAIN BACK VALVES!
If anti drain back was such a big deal Toyota would have addressed it or maybe they did on these new filters.
The filter is facing down. Where is it going to drain back to, Oil doesn’t float up when the car isn’t running.
I change my Tacoma oil every 5k. I installed a Fumoto drain valve so I never have a mess. My filter cartridge, when done correctly, is a breeze. I have a plastic tube and bottle to pre-drain the cartridge. It is easy with the correct tools and no mess. No need to replac3 it.
VW and MB did top screw filter like 30 years ago ,why can't other makers do it ?
I have 2 vehicles with the 2gr-fks engine with these canisters.
Never had any problem with them myself, and haven't noticed more oil spill than I've had with a horizontal aluminum style. I've never used the bottom plug / plastic piece gizmo to drain the plastic piece either. Wear gloves, & take your time.
Love mine! Thank you Baxter!! Makes oil changes so much easier.
I maintain my own 2015 RX 350 and a 2019 RAV4; never have had a problem, but I use a torque wrench to reassemble. I don't relieve oil from the cartidge before removing the housing from it's base. Does the engine dsign in question really need backflow protection? Not so sure
As a mechanic myself, the catridge design is a pain in the ass. When I try to drain the oil from the filter, it spun the whole cartridge which I thought was kind of strange. The plastic cartridge does get stuck. The aluminum version is a lot better than the plastic. It does provide a little bit of heat dissapation and it won't strip on you. The aluminum version is my preferred way to go.
The way how you explain and do things. I see that you change both oil and filter at every change. Nothing wrong with that. It just that engineers didn't need to design this. The engineers probably design this is to reduce metal filters going to waste and just burn the paper cartridge. It does saves them money but it wastes a little bit more of our time to do it.
The aftermarket adapter for the oil filter can change the oil flow, pressure, and filtration. The oil capacity that a filter can hold are also a factor to engine life. The engineers design it for a reason they know the maximum and minimum of oil the will take when the oil bypass valve turns open. A good example be like hydraulic pressure. The flow rate is like 3 gpm and the pressure running through that be like 14 psi. I haven't check the link yet if it does provide those specs.
It's a great idea but with some flaws just like car manufacturers.
REAL PAIN TRUE CURSE WORD EVERY TIME I CHANGE THE OIL EVERY TIME
I have a 2020 Toyota Tacoma with the cartridge filter if I go to the Baxter spin on filter adaptor will that modification void my warranty additionally, how do I know what new filter to buy to replace the only cartridge type? Thanks for the informative video JR
Toyota will probably discourage this (along with nearly any other ideas you might have), but I think "a way around it" would be to just do what you want and, if any issues, replace with old cartridge before attempting to claim warranty service. That being said, do what you are comfortable with doing. To be VERY clear... I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL MECHANIC.
LIFE CHANGING GREAT VIDEO!!!
Let’s not overdue it. Cost 250 bucks. Life changing? Please
excellent info, thank you
You're welcome!
How much longer is it hanging down with the adapter plus the spin on filter as apposed to stock? I like the concept, but it appears to be even or just a little longer than the skid plate? My concern is that road debris (or off-road debris) could puncture the spin on filter....
Seems due to the space inside the adapter and above the spin-on filter that will hold oil, this method will make even more of a mess than properly draining the cartridge filter prior to removal. I'd like to see how much oil still spills/drains out as you remove the spin-on filter.
I think you're right, the only advantage I was looking for was the need for fewer tools.
Most excellent point! All that oil above will drain all over the place. Don’t fix it if it ain’t broken
If you understand how to use their cartridge oil filter system it's really easy and not messy at all plus it reduces unnecessary waste by eliminating the can. I do prefer the spin on filters but I don't mind Toyota's solution either. It's just a few extra steps.
Not really a mess, not really a pain in the neck. Cartridge style filters are vastly superior. Less waste, don't need to worry about filter design regarding drainback and bypass valves, and the filters are cheaper. And the icing on the cake: you can actually inspect your filter with ease. No oil filter cutting necessary. One of the best ways to assess the health of your engine.
Nice thorough explanation. I just did my 1st oil change on my 21 tacoma 4x4 sport.I drive very little being takes me almost a yr for a change.The oem version does suck.My previous 14 tacoma with the 4 cyldr had a spin on far easier.I will hold off on any change until my warranty is over.Cool tho
5,000 mi or 6 months whichever comes first. Do not wait till 1 year Jeremy!
What flow is that given? Sure you haven't restricted it?
Ok so now what oil filter number to get since it's a different style?
is the filter capacity sensitive with this adapter? can you use a stock filter from a previous gen avalon that used a regular filter and use that type
I don't understand the first part of your question so please restate it in a different way and more detailed. I think you could use whatever filter you can fit out there and feel comfortable using. You have to do your own research on the filter.
The inner valve on the new filter may not be compatible with car, so you may not be filtering anything, this os a bad idea, or maybe not, are you guys willing to take that chance?
You're still going to have the same oily mess when to remove your spin off filter because the oil isn't drained so all you really gained is a little convenience for added cost.
The spin on filter looks really small after the adapter. I was wondering if the surface area for the filtering materiel is less because of the adapter.
Even though it may look smaller, it has 50% more filter media in it due to its girth.
Bad idea for the bypass values are different then the canister.
Pretty cool. I don't really find the stock one that much of a pain, but its definitely not the best. At least it doesn't try to drain all over the electrical connection on the steering rack like my Mustang does.
Wonder if there is a taller spin-on filter available, the one you used I know is not for 4runner, but i'd need a larger one for the 1grfe engine. more filter media. plenty of room for it under there.
There is a filter finding tool on the baxterUSA website. Use that to find out.
Smaller filter size seems a little sketchy
You can put a larger (longer) spin on filter on this.
The filter on my 2011 Tacoma is larger than the one on my 2007 gmc 6.0l so there is no rhyme or reason for filter size
Takes me less then 5min and IV never made a mess or had my hand covered in oil and yes they do have a back flow it's in the spring it's built differently and it's really easy to change no hassle at all I wouldn't mess with their engineering process usually Toyota and Lexus have it on lock and have very good quality I'm happy with the original cartridge style filter on my Toyota
I've not had any problems with my factory filter cartridge setup. It comes off and I got no leaks.
Nice video review …. I have been considering this adapter but I’m too concerned about voiding my Tundra warranty.
If it were me, I would consider installing it and IF any warranty work has to be done, just switch it back to a factory filter BEFORE taking it to the dealer.
@@jotu2121 I was thinking the same thing
So, what oil filter do you now use with the new conversion?
It wasn’t that long ago , maybe 15 years the oil filter on a Camry was on the top of the motor , no spills, spin on filter , worked great , then they moved it underneath, ridiculous
They must have had a lot of their better engineers retire during that period......and the new ones forgot the KISS ideology that Toyota was famous for.
Where do you go to determine which spin on to buy once you install this conversion? Looking into this for my '21 Land Cruiser.
The company website has a database of filters you can search.
I see how some people like the OEM cartridge’s for various legitimate reasons but I’m just used to spin on filters and you aren’t limited to just WIX, you can use other appropriate alternative filters.
Name me one advantage that you can see of the Toyota cartridge style filter ?
What spin on filter filter does this take?
A friend gave me a Baxter TS-101-BK that he took off his Tacoma before he traded it in for a new truck. At first I was skeptical because of the short oil filter in this video that I would need to keep the filter from scraping the ground on my 2016 Camry. Then, I did some research and found that the Mobil 1 filter (M1-102A) that my 2018 Tacoma uses and would fit my Camry is 3.375" tall and 3" diameter. The Wix filter 51335 is only 2.483" tall but is 3.67" in diameter. I physically compared the two. The Wix is much larger looking. I'm no math genius but I figure the media coverage of the two is about the same. I installed the adapter and the Wix filter last weekend. The filter hangs higher than the oil pan. Plus, since the spin on has a anti drain back valve, the VVTI doesn't make the annoying rattle on cold start up anymore. So far, I'm happy with the modification.
Note: I've been told that Toyota has eliminated the cartridge filter and went back to the spin on.
Thank you so much for this valuable and detailed (about spin on filters) information. I greatly appreciate your comment! 🙂
What filter size is it ? & Is it one size filter fits all ?
What If oil cap turns as u remove drain plug on 2016 rav 4? Do u just take it all off?
You need to give me more details cuz I have no idea what you're talking about.
I TOTALLY agree w/u on cartridge. I DO have a question, what filter does it take now. Do they vary w/other engines? If I had that, I'm a toyota filter user.
Call or investigate on the companies (Baxter Performance) website. Probably be pretty difficult to use a Toyota factory filter and at that point it would probably be pointless because technically you'd be off spec regardless.
Thank You; you instantly sold me on this; life just got a whole lot better; yes; if you own a Toyota with a cartridge filter you KNOW what i mean !!!! THANK YOU !!!!!!
Excelllent video!
Thanks... glad you liked it!
@@jotu2121 I like the video very much, but I have a question. Now that you put on the conversion kit so you can use a spin on oil filter, what if you want to take your car to the dealership to have your oil changed, how would they know what Toyota spin on oil filter to use. I'm asking the question
because sometimes I do change my own oil, and sometimes I just take it to the Toyota dealership.
@@kenyareed3051 You would most likely need to bring a filter with you and (also>> ALMOST CERTAINLY) coach (TALK TO) the specific technician changing your oil. My understanding is that the "oil change techs" are the absolute beginner (pre-mechanic / technician) positions at a dealership... so now you have been warned!
At 75yo I wanted to get my oil changed by the dealer or even Walmart. But how do I know they put a new filter in the car when they changed my oil? With a spin-on filter it's very easy to check this. So I'm going to put one of these cartridge conversions on my Carolla.
I've been changing the oil on my Tundra every 6 months or 5,000 miles since 2012 and have never had a mess when changing the cartridge.
Absolutely zero mess changing my lexus is350 using the cartridge. Thanks for the option.
How did you know what size filter to use?
the big question i raise about this adapter is: WILL IT alter the distance or height of which the filter will stay in? ive been interested in wanting to add one of these on my 2011 Toyota sienna minivan, the reason i ask this if im driving down the road or highway and i run something over and hit it from below it could break the filter right off…
Call or email Baxter performance USA about this matter.
can these be used on a 2017 or 2018 Camry hybrid?
That's pretty cool 😎
Did this for my mazda cx7 (when I had it) it is a great investment, you can also install much longer filters, I did.
Thanks for your VALUABLE comment / feedback
What spin on filter will you now use? How would you look it up? Also, the one you use seems physically small so probably smaller capacity.
What filter are they using in their adapter or what model car’s filter
Specific filters vary based on your specific vehicle, which filter you want to use, and how much room you have to work with. In other words they are not "set in stone" but are of the users choice. That being said, the filter brand and part number recommended by Baxter Performance, for the 08 Avalon, is clearly visible near the end of the video.
Have you tried the "Fumoto" valve? I have one on my 2015 Rav4, my 2014 Triumph 675R, and my Ford E350 small motorhome.
Best thing ever.
I've done all of the maintenance on my mother's 2014 Camry since the dealership maintenance ended. I have never had any issues with the cover, torque it to 25 pounds, and use the drain function.
But, I have been called out to help two friends/family with high mileage Corollas, that had been taking their cars to oil change places, and then decided to change the oil themselves. The covers were locked in place and started falling apart when trying to get them off with an adapter (of note, both were also missing the locking clips). These were also side mounted, so didn't have the drain option. Much chiseling and profanity ensued!
So, I wouldn't get one of these adapters for my own Toyota, but I can definitely see the benefit for someone who is going to a quick change place, just be sure to let them know you have the adapter.
I was frustrated because the WIX filter Baxter said to use is impossible to find or very expensive. I ordered the universal Toyota fit 501-BK for a 2017 Camry. After trying a lot of different filters I discovered that a FRAM Tough Guard TG4386 series filter works well. It is the same filter that a 2007 Camry uses and I have used them on it for 15 years , 260K miles on the car.
Interesting. We just got a 2018 Toyota Highlander. I plan on doing the retrofit. Baxter Performance suggests Wix 51335. Found them on Amazon for $8.74 - is that the one you were looking for?
It was easy screwing it in. But first I went lefty loosey to find the first start of the treads. Bingo. Then clockwise it went in so nice.
Thats what I did when replacing my spark plugs, inserted, went lefty loosie until I felt and heard the click, knowing I found the threads, no problem at all with cross threading.
Just finished changing the oil and filter on my 2017 Tacoma. It is a giant pain compared to my brothers 2005 Tacoma with the canister filter on top of the engine. Like other posters I agree it is all a ploy to get owners into the dealership for an oil change. Dealerships today make most of there money on servicing vehicles. Wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so expensive and I could trust they'd do the job properly.
I Installed 1 years ago on my 2011 highlander V6 part# TS -101-BK ….And my other 1 on my 4Runner 2021 TS-201-BK makes my oil changes way easier and faster less messy, I do my own oil services works perfectly fine for my vehicles.
Did you have to modify/ cut the skid plate on the 4Runner? I hear this system makes the filter too low
I am happy with the stock Filter cartridge and is no more a mess that with a spin on filter.
Good 4 U
As an express tech at Toyota. It’s really not that bad. Sometimes you’ll get one that’s a bit overtightened but overall they’re pretty painless once you get the hang of them. I’d still prefer they go back to spin on filters are I feel they provide better filtration
so what filter fits this adapter?
thanks for the video jotu , but wait a minute the horizontal plastic one has a drain . it is the 1/2 inch on the bottom.
drains out most of the oil.
but i agree ,its a pain somewhere. just what were they thinking.
Why would you need an anti drain back valve on a filter orientated facing upwards?
oh Man, do I need that baby!! You are so right, what a royal pain in the brain to get that off. I just bought a 2012 Toyota Corolla S. The oil change went badly. That Oil cap was put on to tight and probably the oil ring was dry. It was welded on. All tabs broke off to no avail. Now I have new oil with old oil filter :( disgusted!! ---- I will order that product for sure. How I surfed into this can only be by the Grace of GOD!! thank you so much!!
Saw this on Motor Trend today. Have to get one.
Is this a problem in 2021 Rav4s also?
Not a mess if you follow the instructions on the filter box. You can see if there is any debris in the filter without cutting it apart. I like this better than the cans. Easy peasy. No solution needed. About time! This is fixing a problem that doesn't exist.
How do you determine which oil filter to use if you have the Baxter part installed?
Use the filter database on the Baxter website
How does it effect oil pressure?
So, on a 2019 Tundra TRD Pro, how do I know which filter to use, if I make the conversion?
Google baxter perormance products (they make and sell the adapter) and then call their customer support phone number. They can probably recommend a filter that will work for you.
The Toyota Tundra is the bane of the shop I work in. Not only do you have to deal with this ridiculous cartridge filter, but they usually have a heavy under engine shield that has to be removed to even access the filter. Basically it's a good oil change if the shield is missing from the truck.
If I had any authority in the automotive world, this would be a mandatory refit and all cartridge oil filters would be recalled.
The reason why Toyota uses paper cartridge is paper filter is easier to do inspection when you removed it from filter housing, insp for metal or carbon residue and shavings, same as aircraft engine filters, VERY clever and nice! And you don't have to cut open the metal can to insp the filter!
Although it makes bit mess, but for maintenance and inspection wise, I would say paper cartridge style is very good!
what oil filter do you use for a 2021 toyota tacoma?
Look it up on the filter guide tool that they have on Baxterperformanceusa.com
I just ordered one for my 2019 Toyota Sienna LE. The WIX 51335 oil filter height is only 2.5 inches due to the low clearance under the car. Is there any other oil filter I can use? I want to use the best oil filter. Thanks.
You can use any oil filter that will spin on and fit within your engine bay. If you need a specific filter recommendation, go to baxter performance website and call their customer support and ask them.
@@jotu2121 Thanks, I used Napa 1335, great filter. However, I am planning to relocated the oil filter due to low clearance.
I agree the plastic ones suck cause they are very easy to overtighten and the next guy who tries to loosen it the plastic ears break. They do make a mess, but the metal ones dont break, and its nice being able to inspect the filter pleets during an oil change and not needing any extra cutting tools or time to look at it.
BMW and Mini has these,
and they did it right (they're supposed to be facing up not down).
They're cheaper since it's just the filter like the air filter not the whole air box too.
you can still upgrade to a bigger filter from a BMW for a mini too.
I bought two of these adapters for my 2019 4runner and my 22 tocoma..so far so good.
And you can use a OEM Toyota spin on filter..
That's a good move, I was seriously considering doing the same for my Lexus LS460. But I can't see how I would install it in stock location without it banging on the ground sometime, so that would mean a remote filter mount, which there is literally no room for in the engine compartment, and just added 2 more possible oil leak points anyway -
I drain my filter with hose I got with a kit along with a metal wrench for canister.
No mess.
A regular filter doesn’t make a mess when you unscrew it?
Great video. Sure stands out from the rest.
A solution to a problem that most of us didnt know was an issue. I never have made a mess removing the oil filter or "battled" with it in any way, shape or form.
You don’t need a backflow preventer if the filter is mounting vertically with the bowl down. Where’s it gonna go?!
will it work on new tacomas ,and what oil filter and does it clear skid plate
Please watch the ENTIRE video. All answers are in the video.
I’ve been told installing this would change Oil pressure on the 3rd Gen Tacoma nor will it fit with the TRD Skidplate, can anyone shed some light on this?
They are usually hanging vertically so therefore maintained full. Also, the metal of replacement filters makes them hard to dispose of.
If the room provides on some models you can interchange to a longer/higher capacity oil filter. Did that on 2008 Tacoma where the filter stands up from the valve cover area.
For anyone who has installed this on a Rav4 I’d like to know what spin on filter you used and how much length (ie how much closer to the ground) it added compared to stock cartridge.
When you buy the conversion piece it tells you which filters you ought to use with your engine...and yeah, ground clearance is a real concern! I'd be worried the filter sticks out too far and might actually smash the ground on bumps, which is the main reason I'm not installing one -
Any information on supplementary filter? price-wise, model etc.